Episode 32

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11th Mar 2022

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Biden Preps For WW3 πŸš¦πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί Vodka Caviar Oil Ban 🦠 COVID Update with Jerry Malcolm, Grant Cardone, and Jonathan Bing

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DTN Intro 0:08

It's about to go down let's get ready make no excuses I'm talking I'm talking I'm talking I'm talking about where you go and no matter where you are I'm talking about the news I'm talking seven shares in the hallway I need y'all to give me up to 100 while it's still early I also

Jerry Malcolm 2:02

need y'all to ping your friends and invite them in a little SharePoint to start people opinions we're gonna have a packed show today if you're in the audience, I highly suggest that you raise your head right now come to the stage it's gonna be standing

DTN Intro 3:10

Miss Megan?

Jerry Malcolm 4:01

It is definitely definitely that time it is Friday. How is everybody doing this beautiful Friday. I want to welcome everybody to debate the news Friday edition. We got an incredible, incredible show some very interesting things going on today. Very interesting. I want to thank everybody for joining us. I'm going to ask you all while it is still early. ping your friends and invited man hit that little share thing. ping your friends and invited me and while it's still early, we have a packed show. Also I got 33 shares in the hallway. I want to get that up to 133 Welcome everybody. How are y'all doing this beautiful day? My brother Mr. Jonathan Bing is in the building. How are you? Okay, my brother Jonathan Bing is trying to get to is my Oh,

Jonathan Bing 4:51

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Unknown Speaker 6:26

This is interesting. You know what, I can't wait to get to this COVID part because there's some interesting things I'm about to verify in the back. And if this is true, doctors, we got something to talk about. So look, if anybody got a minute, please start pinging some of your favorite doctors into this room. Ping Dr. copelan right away. Because today, we have to have a conversation. So yeah, so you're gonna meet.

Jonathan Bing 6:51

So Jerry, you're sitting, you're going to really make the list today.

Grant Cardone 6:54

And Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, before we get there, can we get this room to 100? Chairs, guys, I hate seeing these small numbers with so many great people in a room. Share it just hit the little button with arrow hit it. Share it to clubhouse only to clubhouse. Unless you got some followers on Twitter or Instagram. Hit the clubhouse say something provocative. Tell him that it's craziness in this room, because we know we're going to hear craziness today because Jonathan here, tear all these people that are wrong night after night. No telling how wrong they'll be tonight.

Unknown Speaker 7:28

He comes in late.

Unknown Speaker 7:30

Before you guys get distracted. Let's go ahead and get those 33 shares now. There you go. 30 more shares, guys. It costs you nothing to do this. It is sharing the room. These guys work hard day after day. I come in here to support them. These are friends of mine. hope they're friends of yours. They're given to you and your family. They give you something to think about something to laugh about. And many times something just to be pissed off about.

Unknown Speaker 7:52

We got 20 more we got absolutely we got no okay. We got seven more. There we go. There we go for line, Jonathan.

Unknown Speaker 7:59

Let's get seven more shares.

Unknown Speaker 8:04

Not today. Oh wait 100 and say I came out today we have 106.

Unknown Speaker 8:08

Okay, now we can have that conversation once again. And I was like, it's Friday. Let's have a celebration y'all. So I want like 30 more people in the audience. Raise your hand, even if you're shy because I see on the back chat. And in the chat. I want you all to come to the stage today and join in. So I want 30 more people to raise their hand and jumping into conversation. So yeah, back to what I was saying. Jonathan was about to say I'm trying to remake something were you gonna say?

Unknown Speaker 8:36

No, no, no. I said you're trying to make that list today. You're really trying to make that list?

Unknown Speaker 8:40

Oh, no, no. Oh, you talk about that. Oh, man, that shit. That'd be a great weekend. If I can make that list. I maybe one vote away after today. But yes, so how are y'all doing? Anybody want to jump in? Tara? How are you doing? Bobby? Are you there? My brother. How's everybody doing? I'm here. I'm in Miami. Oh you in for you in Miami? Florida. Okay, I feel you I feel you. So yeah. What do you guys think about this threat or promise that Biden is making? Biden says that if you basically if you do this, we had world war three. What do y'all think about that? That thought Biden was soft? What's going on now? It's bullshit. Bullshit. Posing. You know, it's like book bullshit. When a dork is like, I'll fuck you up, man. What do you say? You know, it's like, it's like when you guys I'll kick your eyes.

Unknown Speaker 9:32

If you take one more

Unknown Speaker 9:33

step toward me.

Unknown Speaker 9:36

Hey, I don't know it's I don't know. It's not just about Biden. It looks like the whole country behind him. Somebody is over here. coughing and something I don't know. Augustus, I guess is my brother Augustus. Yo, I what do you what do you think about this threat that your boy Biden's making if they try to take part of if they interfere basically go too much further. Biden will initiate war went through you What do you think about that?

Unknown Speaker:

It's so funny that you said He's my boy um but ya know so I don't know it might be it might just be again posturing just trying to fucking positive Yeah.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, you know what, let me use a clarification if they touched one inch one inch of NATO's any country NATO where he's prepared to go to World War Three that's not hostile that's an obligation there's no

Unknown Speaker:

wall hurt though but if he's talking about touching NATO's area of course I get that man it's the same thing as boom it's a or anybody else would say you're touching my family member. I get that. I understand what you're saying. So, I mean, are we are we on the brink of world war three? I don't know. We have to see what does next. Would it be interesting to to see how he responds.

Unknown Speaker:

I told you I told you where or last night Jonathan you denied it. Looks like I was right.

Unknown Speaker:

We're not at war grant. Yes, we are. He's 100. Economic we are in economic war potential. But we are not at a physical boots on the ground with with

Unknown Speaker:

boots on the ground in.

Unknown Speaker:

Alright, why don't you? Why don't you just find more than and we'll probably agree.

Unknown Speaker:

No, we are at war. Yeah, we are talking about war. We are sending reports. We are sent. We are sending resources. We're spending our time and our energy. Talking about war. We're sending jets to Poland. We're sending anti aircraft material to to to Poland. We're since then and Stinger missiles and we've spent almost $80 billion already in support. What do you call a war? You need you need a headline you need to see a headline, don't you? That's your that's where you get all your action you need to see. You need to see. You need to see it happen. You need to see it on the headlines before Oh, yeah. Now button says we're war. Don't you guys understand you already have a fight. You don't have to say somebody we have a fight to see people fighting. So you don't have to see a recession. To know that we're in a recession. We're already in a recession right now, guys, you need to see a headline. We don't need to see inflation. I was talking about inflation. Three years ago, you guys started talking about it three days ago. But clearly, chicken prices and meat prices were going up three years ago, cough the cereal was going up three years ago. The devaluation of the dollar has been happening. It didn't happen in the last six months. But But what happens is people finally start talking about it like Kira here, when it makes enough headlines. And it's easier for her to search on a computer, you probably don't even search you probably just have it pop up to you with a bunch of bullshit alerts.

Unknown Speaker:

So grant, I don't know if you know it, you don't know anything about my background, and I'm not really going to discuss it right now. I did study history, however, that

Unknown Speaker:

we talked about that last night, I was hoping we'd move on.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, we did. Grant, I don't know if everyone knows, but grant is putting out 10x panties for those women who are who need that sort of support. Okay. Anyway, the, this is a to say this since World War Two. So 7577 years, we have had this alliance with Europe, okay. And that's where we placed our chips, we sort of said, We're anti Russian, we're pro Europe, and we are going to be part of NATO. We're going to try and stop the Russia from doing anything. And we were pretty successful for a long time. Now, at this point, I think many people are now discussing and I think it's worth discussing certainly, whether we made the right bit, whether we want to do anything with China, whether we want to put you know, sort of ally ourselves with Russia, but personally, there were reasons for why we align ourselves with Europe. And I think, is that grant? Are you sleepy honey? Maybe you should take enough. Okay, anyway, listen. Um, so I think we really need to discuss this. Do we want to backstop Europe? Do we want to be part of NATO? Do we think this is the right thing to do?

Unknown Speaker:

That's not, that's not the challenge. The challenge is, I said, we're at war already. And you're saying it's fine. Yeah. How I'd love to do a poll. Jerry, how much of the audience thinks that America is already in a war? Okay, let's do it.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm gonna cut hair. I'm going to one second. I'm going to cut hand raising off and I'm going to cut it back on and about and then the question is, how many of you guys and ladies in the audience feels that America is already at war is going to come on in t minus five for three to go? If you believe America is already at war, raise your hand Oh, wow. Oh, wow. There we go. Oh, wow. Count me in a camera. Okay, help me out.

Unknown Speaker:

Turn off 301 All right guys where we had guys all right. 107 Okay, I get I turn it off. Yeah. Now what we're going to do is if you guys believe that we just got out of Afghanistan, and we are no longer fighting a war, where you say, Wait a second, because if you guys believe we are no longer fighting a war, please, please raise your hand during that time. Could go and play the 54321 and Jerry, turn us on. So it's on you guys. If we are no longer at war again, and we're no longer at war, please raise your hand. If we are no longer at war is over no more fighting

Unknown Speaker:

a home. It's not helping Josh is still it's still it. 19?

Unknown Speaker:

Five, six times the amount of

Unknown Speaker:

okay, 54321 is over.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, you guys are following us, by the way. So everyone on stage, they think we are war. Why do you guys feel that we are currently at war? I want to hear some of you guys. I want to hear what you guys thought or why we are currently at war. Let's go. This is ice we defined war last night with Adam. He gave us every example of why we are at war right now. And a lot of people were here. Maybe you weren't paying attention. We're at a psychological war. We're in a cyber war.

Unknown Speaker:

We're constantly fighting off attacks. We've already had our our grid attack like we're at war. Jonathan, come on,

Unknown Speaker:

bro. Okay, so when was the last time we weren't at war?

Unknown Speaker:

We've been at war and over the past

Unknown Speaker:

years. Man. You're not using your your definition of war. When was the last time we were not at war?

Unknown Speaker:

I couldn't even tell you. We're constantly battling. I know.

Unknown Speaker:

I know. You don't have that talking point. I'll tell you what's going on. Attack.

Unknown Speaker:

On March, march 2020, to February 2022. We were not at war because they they they propped up this COVID thing so that they could justify printing money.

Unknown Speaker:

So so so during the time we were in an actual conflict in Afghanistan, okay, we weren't at war. But now we are at war. When it conflict is over. We're definitely closer to World War right. Showing the people I brought, I brought right your brother, you just let me knob. So we when we were in actual war terror, we're an actual war at March 2020. If my memory serves me, correct, Greg, Tara?

Unknown Speaker:

Yes, we were and I don't understand how grant can even make that. I mean, I understand why people think we're now but grant, you can't say we weren't at war. We were actually having troops in Afghanistan in March of 2020. Moreover, there were many cyber attacks during that timeframe. So if if ISIS correct if we defined mine as cyber attacks and things like that and be having actual troops in Afghanistan, then we were clearly at war in March,

Unknown Speaker:

I believe what I said was, clearly that was a war. But I believe that there was less risk to the American people, to our economy during Afghanistan than what we're

Unknown Speaker:

seeing. And that's fine, but let's get clear. Oh,

Unknown Speaker:

thank you to call it out. Call it out. He's pivoting.

Unknown Speaker:

And when we're pulling out we're pulling out in though guys, look, you know, we were pulling out clearly we're pulling out. And we were pulling troops out have been for what we there 20 years. We were not at the height of the Afghanistan war. They were trying to figure out the last two administrations, we're trying to figure out how to get out of there. Not Biden, by the way, before that Trump and Obama were trying to figure out how to get out of there. There

Unknown Speaker:

were no I don't I don't get it. I don't wait once I don't get it like Biden. They're in a state of alert right now. It it is sort of like they are at war, just because they haven't swung through a punch yet. If I'm about to come, look, you're just going through a punch doesn't mean we're about to engage. I mean, it's like, I don't know, isn't the only thing in the news right now is the conflict in Ukraine. And the US is involved in that.

Unknown Speaker:

Well, Biden just promised that we will not um, and this is his quote, according to C span is the audio he says we will not fight a third war war over Ukraine. And he promises that

Unknown Speaker:

he'd said no, but he said we would definitely go to war or three

Unknown Speaker:

he promised he promised he wouldn't mandate the vaccine.

Unknown Speaker:

Exactly that's exactly where we are during the Cold War. But you know what's crazy so in this bill back better plan he's allocating all these all his money the paid reporters salaries. Y'all don't find that strange. Since when is the government paying reporters salaries? Damn.

Unknown Speaker:

terror, terror, terror, terror? Can you confirm that terror?

Unknown Speaker:

I'm not aware of that. So whoever that was, can you backchannel me that?

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah. Yeah, you've been known to put a lot of false information out bro. Line and cabinet shit.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay. terror, terror, terror terror. Um, so I'm still gonna have reservations at this restaurant tonight. Can you confirm this card

Unknown Speaker:

will be on my bio very

Unknown Speaker:

brother artists Second Brother Brother cute, bro. Can you please no, you can't Can you please wait a second, bro. Damn, go ahead, Jonathan.

Unknown Speaker:

What I'm saying is Tara is a trusted source. This is his first Ariana

Unknown Speaker:

crystal bought Tara Do you have a crystal ball is are the cards, the Terek cards? Which one?

Unknown Speaker:

I actually do palm reading. I think it's much more effective. Because

Unknown Speaker:

it's like John is like Kira, can you confirm that? Tara? Can you confirm that?

Unknown Speaker:

I'm DJ Friday. Just send me what he said he will send me by the way. I'm just not like I'm not doing this thing.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, Sara?

Unknown Speaker:

Oh, somebody said, Tara, look it up. Who was that? That's like Debbie, Debbie Debbie.

Unknown Speaker:

That's the sound like Debbie. Yes, exactly. It sounds like Yeah.

Unknown Speaker:

I also want to say that what Biden said about the NATO country sounds like an invitation. Does it sound like an invitation? Anybody else?

Unknown Speaker:

Invitation to what Debbie to talking tongues? Debbie? Do you actually think that I doubt very seriously that any President or right mind is gonna want to go to war with Russia right about now. You think they want to go to war with Russia? Debbie, do you really believe

Unknown Speaker:

that? Why does Biden reserve the right to say if you attack a NATO country? This isn't even about NATO. Ukraine is not a

Unknown Speaker:

Jonathan Jonathan. Guess what, Jonathan, the other day? They were complaining that he wasn't sticking his chest out? Oh, I'm sorry, Mike. Go ahead, Debbie. I apologize.

Unknown Speaker:

Saying Ukraine is not a NATO country. So why is Biden over here saying oh, if you invade a NATO country, we're attacking like, that's so beyond irrelevant. It's not even funny.

Unknown Speaker:

No, Debbie. We don't believe that Putin is when he says I'm only going to mess with Ukraine right now. We don't believe that we believe he may go across other borders. And we're just saying, if you

Unknown Speaker:

like 20 billion plus to Ukraine, why

Unknown Speaker:

in law syrup something. I didn't even hear that.

Unknown Speaker:

Now. You can now you're cutting him off now? Because

Unknown Speaker:

she's right. Because you know what we're doing? What do y'all call that funding a party? I want to go to that party. What are we funding? So we're funding to Cracow or

Unknown Speaker:

guys, that part according to your according to yours, and ISIS definition of war? We're currently at civil war than two. We're currently going on down right now. No, and I mean, I'm saying it this

Unknown Speaker:

time, because he invited you in? Hey, I would.

Unknown Speaker:

I would agree with that, by the way. And the people in these rooms need to tell our government to stop wasting money on this craziness.

Unknown Speaker:

But grant, is it more going on behind the scenes that we don't know about that? If we didn't know about? Maybe it made sense of whatever money is that people are, you know, the the government is given these other countries? Is it possible? It's a reason behind it? And it has to do with keep? I don't know, what do you think about that?

Unknown Speaker:

Jerry? There is a reason if I could count him in quickly. Oh, you know, they're fast tracking mic is fucked up. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So they are fast tracking your brain becoming a part of part of EU. They just saw they had their conference in France. And they are fast tracking it to becoming a barn of EU guess what Ukraine for wides symbolizes all the agriculture products that you could imagine. So all this investment going in, you get freebies in terms of agriculture, for

Unknown Speaker:

free trade. Appreciate you brother. Thank you. Thank you for that. Mr. Bing. Did you land your plane Mr. Bing?

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, absolutely. I want to hear what he talked about. I want to cut Why'd you cut him off? I want to hear like, the microphones a little loud, that's all. But I want to go back to you because I want to hear what you were saying. Because you're given some reasons and you sound intelligent you probably one of the other than terror. You know, I'm glad to hear you speak. I don't want to hear grants foolishness. So what were you saying again, sir? In terms of elaborate,

Unknown Speaker:

I mean, I think I think that the gentleman that you the other dude.

Unknown Speaker:

Mr. John, are you talking about me, Mr. Microphone? Yeah, well, yeah. Okay. So here's what's going on. You is wanting to they they're trying to figure out, you got to look at it very carefully. What was Russia saying? Do not come into my neighborhood with these, you know, NATO missiles or whatever the hell you want to expand into Ukraine? That is what pissed them off. Right? So what they're figuring out now, it's okay, we're not going to put the missiles, we're just going to expand the EU, and we're gonna, you know, suck Ukraine into it. And what do they get? Because of all the money they're spending, and Greek culture products, Ukraine produces 11% of the world 11% of the world's wheat products. 11%. And that's what they're getting in return.

Unknown Speaker:

Not gonna happen, you're totally wrong.

Unknown Speaker:

You will see, okay, so, okay, so John, Paul, you're

Unknown Speaker:

not gonna tell us why it's not gonna happen. Go ahead. We'll

Unknown Speaker:

go, number one, number one, Ukraine, right now has the lowest GDP of any single country, the minute they get into the EU, they'll have a mass exodus going to every different country. And that's why Germany, Hungary, and Poland will never ever sign off on that happening. So you're all they

Unknown Speaker:

don't have a choice. Now. I'm sorry, I'm sorry to differ from you. But they don't have a choice. Now,

Unknown Speaker:

I am telling you right now won't happen, because literally, a major portion of the population of Ukraine will lead and will go to Best rule go to countries with a higher GDP.

Unknown Speaker:

Do you know do you know? Can I ask you something? Can I ask you something? I don't know your name. Can ask you something? Do you know how many refugees have already left in 14 days?

Unknown Speaker:

I am aware that million refugees have already left

Unknown Speaker:

and oh, boy, five millions.

Unknown Speaker:

Right. And more will leave. So who's going who's going to kill the soil who's going to go ahead and farm I mean, Ukraine needs probably 10 years before we can get back to where it was, you know, six months ago. They're not going into the EU, it's not going to happen.

Unknown Speaker:

We're going to everyone's going to help rebuild. And we're also we want that wheat. And we also want all that tech savviness. There's a lot more to Ukraine than everybody's talking about here about just wheat hay, certainly valuable. But there's a lot of professionals there that work on work from there for different companies around the world. So when it comes to who's going when the people leave, and there's going to be there's a mass exodus going on right now. And the beast besides that, Jerry and Jonathan, I wanted to say real quick about why the numbers, you know, came in only 20 People said we weren't at war. It's because it just happens to be the makeup of this room. And that's that's just a fact. But yeah, the US hasn't Oh,

Unknown Speaker:

wow. That's why what we what that's, that's that's a motherfucking fact,

Unknown Speaker:

because they I agree, I

Unknown Speaker:

agree, you know, cuz people are like, they don't want to hear some of the horse hockey, like, you know, I love being on the minority. I like to take on about 100 people at a time. In the point is, uh, when it comes to the we haven't declared war. I mean, terrorists, right. I mean, you know, the fact is, it's, it's this definition of war. It is sensitive. Are we doing war like things? Yeah, but the US hasn't declared war. And we're not at war right. Now. If, like I said, if that definition that ice had and Graham had about war, we'd be a civil war. And believe me, you know what, it is close. It is close.

Unknown Speaker:

But ever war if a woman was doing how like, I mean, if a woman was doing some things like things, what would she be that or if a guy was doing things like things would he be that I mean, That don't make no sense? Would you say we do a war like,

Unknown Speaker:

because it No, it is a different thing. It's sort of like this. Listen, we can do when we're talking about cyber things that we're doing. Cyber attacks on other things are happening right now. But like that person that chimed in that no one remarked to where we at war during the Cold War. Well, if you want to consider it that but No, we weren't at war. We weren't at what is traditionally has been considered war can be more clear than that.

Unknown Speaker:

Appreciate you, sir. You were clear. Thank you. Anyway. Of course, Derek. Derek can jump in and after Derek the lady said she can jump in next. Go ahead, Mr. Derek

Unknown Speaker:

are cool. Yeah, man. I don't we're not at war. War is us. Landing bombs, putting troops in warfare. We're not at war. We're thinking a number we're not at war, or dying people getting killed us declaring war, like the former gentleman had said, You

Unknown Speaker:

just made a good point. Brother, I got a question for you. If a country is at war with another country, right, and another country gets involved and start doing sanctions and stuff, isn't that kind of war ish? They're only doing it because of the war.

Unknown Speaker:

They're finishing a statement he would have you understood what he said about war.

Unknown Speaker:

I understood what he was saying. He said, we're not battling. But but but it's still it's still the same. You know, I must leave the room. Good. I'm out of here. Go ahead, Derek. I'm about to start my own room do it.

Unknown Speaker:

Well, I mean, I, I think that's kind of skirting the line. I mean, it's because we're not declaring war, but putting sanctions on there. But war like I said, it's killing people. US declaring war. If we were at war, that would mean that we're, we're we're exceeding what we should do Article Five because oh, five is you attack one.

Unknown Speaker:

It's an offense on all.

Unknown Speaker:

So we're playing that line, but we're not at war yet.

Unknown Speaker:

I like what you said, playing that line. I like that. I like that playing that line. Yeah. Did you land did you land there because I don't want to get in trouble the lambreaux.

Unknown Speaker:

Show so guys, let me just understand this. America would then have to declare itself a racist nation to be considered racist.

Unknown Speaker:

Oh, damn. Oh, damn. I'm gonna be quiet now. Okay. Oh, Tara. Tara. Does that make sense when he said, Tara?

Unknown Speaker:

No, you guys, you guys wait for a declaration. You guys wait for a declaration from leaders. That's what makes sheep right there. She like, you wait for a declaration from the media. You guys have to see it in a headline to say, Oops, we got into something here. Like you have to see you have to see what's going on. And make a determination for yourself what's happening and not wait for somebody to tell you oh, by the way, we've done something. It's how you protect your family. It's how you protect your daughters, your kids. This is how you find out a school screwed up. You're going to wait until if you know something's going on in a school system. And you know, it's failing. Are you going to wait until we're last on a list amongst all the other countries? When you see a road or your roads aren't getting better? Are you going to wait for the headline in the newspaper to say the roads are failing to say, hey, our roads are failing? It's clear and obvious that we are funding an activity called a war.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, grants 100%. Right. No, no. I don't mean to jump in. But war is strategic. We're constantly at war. And if you think that war is just dropping bombs, then I think that's a little naive. You know, we're in an information war. We're in an ideological war, an economic war. You know, it's a war of ideologies all across the world and even here in the United States. So now I can just say the argument you are

Unknown Speaker:

I hate to cut you off there.

Unknown Speaker:

Right. Yeah, I want to say so I got quiet on that one, man, you became a hell of a debater man. You could have almost won me over with that statement. But I, I still disagree. But you came and you play with a gut punch because you're a hell of a debater. Because, yeah, I was like, I got quiet. Jerry, Jerry hit me in the back channel, like, oh, you know, Grant hit that one. And I was like, yeah, that's why I'm staying quiet. But you became a hell of a debater, man.

Unknown Speaker:

You can't let me tell you something. You cannot debate with Grant. He pivots to good dude, he goes too deep. He goes too deep.

Unknown Speaker:

Well, I mean, it's just it's just logic guys. Like Are we a racist nation? Nobody I don't need somebody to tell me that we are I don't need I know that we have racism in this country. I don't need to declared by a leader

Unknown Speaker:

Debbie said we're not I mean

Unknown Speaker:

I know we're a nation of inequalities. Okay. I don't need I don't need. I don't need a report. Damn, guys, I don't need a report from a bunch of economists to save the playing field service, it suddenly leveled

Unknown Speaker:

the private nation of resources. And if you deprive a man like why am I getting muted? No. So if you deprive a nation of resources, like do sanctions and all that, is that not an act of war that like if your neighbor wouldn't allow won't allow you to bring groceries into your house by force? Is your neighbor not like picking a fight with you? Exactly.

Unknown Speaker:

What that means what that means

Unknown Speaker:

that we are perpetually we are because we're always doing stuff to other nations. Other nations are attacking other nations to try to see their defenses so basically That would mean that we're always that way. Exactly

Unknown Speaker:

right. And you're saying that, I'm glad you brought that up it because he No, just say they really are saying we're perpetually at war. And that's not the case. That's why we're trying to differentiate in any way. No country says, Hey, we want to declare some of our beliefs, declaring war is a whole different thing. So when you're saying, why would we declare we're racist? Half the country did declare it. But the point is to say, why would a country's don't declare the things that you were talking about grant? And it's like, I was gonna say to Jerry, and Jonathan, this is terrible, because I'm a fan of you three, all three, it still I don't see the great debate in that particular argument. I'm

Unknown Speaker:

a notice. Notice a grant grant.

Unknown Speaker:

I agree with you, I said, when

Unknown Speaker:

I noticed the same thing I say my name like that again.

Unknown Speaker:

You know, you know, we're trying to move forward, grant him the show,

Unknown Speaker:

we're deaf, we're definitely at war. Like it's an everyday thing. Because for a simple fact that the minute Russell started doing what they doing, it got our attention. And now we have to make decisions in response, whether it's in your face or covertly, like it's an impact. Now, if you were to say that we're not going to do anything, we're just going to let Russia do what they want to do to Ukraine, then you're a fool. But we are at war. We just played we just planned this. It's all strategy at this point.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah. And the way the way to clean that up just a little bit is if you don't want to waste when we start when we started pushing, rushes hand. Okay, and that that's when that because that's how they're gonna see it, but he's gonna say, no, no, no, you got pushed my hand in this thing. You should have stayed out of Ukraine, you should have left. You should have not pushed the agenda. Because that's what he thinks he feels like he was pushed into this. If funding Ukraine.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah. Why do we always sort of try and get into Putin? 10 say, Oh, the poor guy he was put at risk. It's so terrible. I mean, this is sort of a it's it's sympathizing with Putin in a way that I think is not warranted. Okay. This guy had a plan. He wanted to take back Ukraine in general. He's been wanting to do this. For years, he's been wanting to extend his sphere of influence in Georgia, Bella Ruth, he succeeded through phony elections, etc. Why are we all of a sudden feeling like Oh, poor bloody you know, I don't get this argument at all.

Unknown Speaker:

Guys, one second, the room chat is once I get the room chat is now open. If you guys want to participate in the conversation, Jerry is going to control it and monitor it. So guys, make sure that you guys do not do anything that you're not supposed to do back there. Jerry, that's easier.

Unknown Speaker:

No Hanky Panky stuff in that in that thing. There's children looking in there. So y'all stop all that Hanky Panky. So here. So

Unknown Speaker:

one more thing, if sanctions or war? Well, we imposed, Trump did impose sanctions against China in 2020. Against Government officials in response to allegations of a genocide, we're always doing things like this, what isn't more than

Unknown Speaker:

that's my point you're

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gonna make you're not dropping cruise missiles,

Unknown Speaker:

we just a little upset, is Boston up and doing what they want to do like in your face, we're sensitive society, everybody's always everybody gets a trophy. And it's all soft, but then somebody actually stands up, and now they're the bully on the block. And now we're having this war conversation. But this stuff has been going on every day. For years and years, things are going on, it's all politics, and a form of that in. That's just that's life. You know, there was a time in this nation where, you know, Alexander the Great went out and conquered like that's the warrior shit. And people are dying and internet the world that we live in. But this is not new. It's just not pc no more. And so that's why we all in our feelings about it.

Unknown Speaker:

Can I speak on something real quick?

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Yes, you can.

Unknown Speaker:

That's why I want to say I want to be very direct and meticulous about this. Oh, my thing is why are we even trippin about the war between Ukraine and Russia? If anything I'm saying this look at the US the US can't even handle their own business right here and I'm saying with their own people you've heard me so why are you even I'm saying get into issues with them saying Ukraine Russia okay now now only that as a black man I'm saying like we could really care less about the fuck is going on in Ukraine. I'm saying Russia don't care. I will our lives are being I'm seeing me at risk every day. Now. I mean, this like in the last month it's been four black, black men killed by Police officers and I'm saying the last past month Why the fuck do we care about what's going on in Russia and you and you can't Ukraine? Why even President Biden, even indulging and shit like that you feel me when he can't even get and I'm saying shit together right here as president United States, it's like take care you don't have to take care of your home before you

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go and you can care about more than waiting at a time.

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What not? But

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you can't you can't go to somebody's house

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until okay once I get one at a time everybody Greenlandic praying bro.

Unknown Speaker:

That's like me going to somebody else's house. My house is dirty as fuck. And I'm coming to your house telling you that your house field you need to clean this shit up. Matter of fact, I'm seeing somebody here. Like how the hell am I do that? Well, my shit is just filthy. I mean, you can't go to somebody else. And I'm saying to try to dictate what they want. And then to the United States are the biggest fucking bullies. No, I'm saying we go to other countries, foreign countries take over their natural resources take over their whole country. I'm saying rape their women killed and I'm saying they people. Now I'm saying and then when they people come to retaliate, they create and I'm saying, oh, mercenaries I'm saying to come over to the United States. And I'm saying to retaliate, we call them terrorists, not terrorists. That does No, I'm saying crate and I'm seeing form groups to come back. No, I'm saying

Unknown Speaker:

is there a is there anybody that disagrees with what trouble just said that the people have come over here is not terrorists? Is there any lady that disagrees with him that would like to share your disagreement with him?

Unknown Speaker:

I don't disagree. But can I say something I like I'm

Unknown Speaker:

looking for somebody disagree, though. Okay, you can piggyback go with the part that we can't be. We're gonna go ahead and piggyback I want to piggyback

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her. Okay. I want to piggyback first, and then that breaks away from

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that that was a term was banned in this room.

Unknown Speaker:

I know. Go Bye, bye. Let's go ahead, Greg, freedom of speech piggyback.

Unknown Speaker:

What I like to continue on that fact. What my feeling on it is, I hear a lot of people talk about Putin and his thoughts. But when it comes to the United States, has anyone ever actually listened to what Putin actually said? When trouble mentioned earlier that we're the biggest bullies we are. And I'm not saying that I agree with Putin it and I think that what he's doing is completely horrible, killing innocent people. But what he's saying is, the United States, which is true, gives billions and billions of dollars to Ukraine, and for what reason? For what reason, there has to be some hidden agenda, the United States just doesn't give money away for no solid reason. And what he has said, when you actually listen to what Putin has said, in English, and it's on YouTube, he's upset that the United States is giving so much or YouTube is given so much money to this country. And he says that the United States is actually funding, don't know if this is true. War, and the United States has multiple sites that they're using in Ukraine, and they're producing chemical warfare in their backyard. So that's another reason though, let me ask you a question. Or questions question. How does anybody know? Well, how do we know the slides? How

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do we know I agree with you, but I'm saying the people don't say

Unknown Speaker:

I got a quick question for you. Once I get Miss Miss, miss, miss, miss, mute your mic, miss. It's just real simple. I'm just joining the conversation. Okay, you're gonna be able to continue talking. I'm gonna pose another way to look at this. Is it possible that the US has to do these things that they're doing to stay a superpower, which enables us to be free the way we're freeing America to do what we want to do? Move around how we want to move? Is it possible there's casualties and wars and they have to do that? Is that possible, everybody, the things that we don't like them, the things that we don't want them doing? What is needed, so we can stay empowered when we are

Unknown Speaker:

but factor is always has to go towards very,

Unknown Speaker:

it's I mean, I'm just saying we're complaining, right? But let's say they don't do that. Let's say they don't help but all these billions, and or they don't help with this, and they don't go take out this person. And in another country goes and do something that country gets stronger, which in turn makes us weaker, than we can't flow the way we're flowing. Is it possible that's

Unknown Speaker:

best? But that's the Battle of civilization, as long as humans been on this earth. It's all they always been, you know, you can't you can't tell your land anymore because the soil doesn't produce anymore. So you have to move to another land and you have to conquer it. Those people ain't just gonna let you move in. You have to conquer those people. This is what

Unknown Speaker:

it that's what democracy is. Do you know the real term of democracy? Now I'm saying you know, the definition blocks when you go and take something that does not belong to you. I mean, nobody claiming it.

Unknown Speaker:

You say don't belong to you So are you telling me God put humans on Earth and assign them all their seats?

Unknown Speaker:

No no she you want to take it to a different level and I can go that level with you but at the same time I'm speaking on and I'm saying United States and I'm saying we consider you not

Unknown Speaker:

because thing is taking somebody's land though because

Unknown Speaker:

if you don't if you don't you don't think that what you face is taken land tell me what is what is what is what is the Tulsa Tulsa Oklahoma does not taking land. Then we'll

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assign the land to you though. You own that land it

Unknown Speaker:

bro bro Yeah, you buy you buy. I'm saying these people own this land. And I'm saying to

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the government wanted that land is going to the same thing with the dumb Sam. What's the point? Brother? This is? Black man, you talking crazy, bro.

Unknown Speaker:

The Native Americans do not take ownership or like you,

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you but you put in that conversation? Oh, you know what you got to say? Oh, no, do not you got to do Oh.

Unknown Speaker:

And if you're a black man right now on on this platform, listen, do your research on your history.

Unknown Speaker:

Listen, I'm glad to do it like the book. So

Unknown Speaker:

if I'm speaking on democracy, the term democracy and I'm saying the definition of Do you know what the definition of democracy is? Do you know if you don't know that you're into the term? So how you gonna seek in libraries? What is democracy? I'm sorry, the term I was trying. I didn't like you. I'm saying your democracy is basically when you're taking ownership of something that does not belong to you. Now I'm saying that's the democracy as far as land, the United States have gone. I'm seeing two different foreign countries I'm saying and taking them saying over these people's land that didn't belong to them. I'm saying same thing. So okay, another example I want to say again, elaborate. It's like all

Unknown Speaker:

relationships. I need you I need you land before you go to yo, yo,

Unknown Speaker:

bro. I'm pulling for you, man. But when you started doing the definition of democracy. Alright, well, let

Unknown Speaker:

me let me let me continue with that, man.

Unknown Speaker:

I know where you get your definition from? I got

Unknown Speaker:

my definition of democracy is from another black, pro black man who's actually educated me, I'm saying in books, and I'm saying, Oh, okay. stuff. That's all.

Unknown Speaker:

We're trying to promote democracy by taking land, right? Wait. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker:

I just want a definition real quick. A system, a system of government, a system of government by the whole population, or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives. That's what that's what that's

Unknown Speaker:

what you're what you're what you're describing. Sure, simply take the shit.

Unknown Speaker:

He said, that's what I'm reading off Google. So So you said you said a black elder or black man who gave it to you? So who? Know, I don't want you to go, no, no, but I want to go to Instagram. But I just want to know who the black guy was that you said gave you.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm trying to tell you, I have to go to Instagram so I can give you his name. And for me.

Unknown Speaker:

Property owning democracy is called property owning democracy,

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right? That's the whole

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thing. The word is conquering.

Unknown Speaker:

He said, he said, it has nothing to do with property look up property owning democracy.

Unknown Speaker:

But Do y'all get what I'm saying? When I say as long as humans been on this earth, we've always migrated, we've always conquered. We've always certain groups conquered other groups. And it always boiled down to the resources of the land of why they had to move out that land, why they chose to conquer another land. And Jerry said, and like Jerry said, If we ain't stepping on somebody, somebody's stepping on you.

Unknown Speaker:

That's just the way it is. Y'all wake up. That's just the way it is. Every grant grant

Unknown Speaker:

I know, I know. I know what I would be doing right now. Instead of funding. I don't know what the number is. If somebody can look up what we funded Ukraine for the last decade, then we would know what the agenda was. Yes, she why are we why are we doing that?

Unknown Speaker:

I just had a we have schools and

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we donate money to dozens of countries every year. Good. You're guys cutting people

Unknown Speaker:

off. When we have schools and hospitals failing. We got elders not being taken care of. We got homeless people. We have people that can't even eat in this country. And we're funding countries. For what? What if all that money was redirected for the next decade for the next five years even and all we did was fund all this bullshit right here at home and made America so phenomenal that we set an example of where people like, dude, they're over there building and we're freaking destroying. Greg

Unknown Speaker:

a once a wait one second before y'all go. Listen, everybody real quick. This is very important. I need everybody to mute their mic when you're not talking because it's making staticky on my end. It's gonna mess up something later for so I need you to keep your mic trouble. That means you to trouble because right now, thank you. Yeah, cuz I don't want to put you to the audience. Tony, I'll put you the audience. You got to mute your mic. Go ahead on whoever wetland airplane. Go ahead. Anybody else want to jump in? But before you do? Jumping? Wait, wait, wait before you before you do one second brother. I'm at 170. Let's get us a little over 201 70 shares on the wall is getting nice and debatable in here. Also, I want you guys to the same button you use the Share. Click on that and ping as many people as you want to see come to the room start pinging pinging pinging, follow the club debate the news. membership has its privileges. Thank you back to the guy that was speaking. Go ahead, brother. Hey, I

Unknown Speaker:

just wanted to Can everybody hear me? Clearly I just wanna make sure we got you, bro. I gotcha. I was gonna say this is this has been like a low key battle that's been going on for a very long time. And again, what the lady was mentioning, if you really listen to Putin, his a lot of his demands were as far as NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, pretty much explained, expanding a lot of their power west east work over throughout Europe. Initially, in 1949, when it was formed, it only had 10 countries, and now Poland, Bosnia, Estonia, a lot more Eastern European countries are becoming part of NATO. And NATO is AI now, NATO pretty much has like an agreement where you know what? Somebody fuck with you guys? We're all together. It's like, either there's a military base that is placed in these countries. And so as Russia's like, how are you? Like, first of all, there was an agreement, I think, the early 90s. And I forgot the exact name of the agreement. But there was an agreement where Putin asks, Hey, like, Hey, you guys do not expand NATO, NATO cannot expand to these countries. And Ukraine was on the border, it was on the verge of joining NATO at this moment, the US has given them a lot of money. And, and this like, is literally like placing military bases right outside my land. And is this like, as powerful countries, you are kind of playing? You kind of pull in? And I'm not somebody that I'm not? I'm not I don't promote Russia and Putin at all. But this is all power. And also knowing that Ukraine, the influence of Ukraine, is that you I'm sorry, the influence of Russia's Russia provides a lot of oil and gas to the, to the EU, a lot of Eastern European countries, and if and like 80% of the gas that goes through the EU goes through Ukraine. And so if Ukraine is taken over by NATO, you're literally fucking with your like Russia's a lot of their money's their pipeline, your fucking with a lot of their distribution of resources and their and their power. So it's like, you know, I think there has to be some there's a lot of missing education as far as what's going on. Because immediate, like really just painting it as if, oh, this man just wants to go expand power, but like, really, NATO is expanding its power eastward. And we understand really the US and Western nations like us, Israel, they're the main influences of NATO as well, if we really break it down. And so I don't think that we really understand what this war has been about. There's so many other factors and this evil man just once once wanting to go and just take over these countries, it's like, are all my oil through my pipelines go through Ukraine, and you guys are coming, NATO is trying to like, or you guys are they're trying to make you guys get it. But that's all I went to land. It's there's a lot of tug of war of power and a lot of information that's deeper than what we really know. And that's presented in our media. And I'll let my plane is that.

Unknown Speaker:

Thank you, bro. No, I

Unknown Speaker:

disagree with him. Jerry. I disagree with him.

Unknown Speaker:

You disagree with him? Yeah. Because

Unknown Speaker:

what he was saying, because what he was saying about those pipelines going through your brain is not true. You got to look it up. It is not going through Ukraine. Germany has been working on this project bypassing because they knew what the fuck was going on in Ukraine. They were bypassing and going through Poland, in directly into Russia. So what he's saying is actually not true.

Unknown Speaker:

There was never there there was can you point to us the agreement where NATO promise never, there's no agreement. There were verbal calls There was never an agreement. And let me just ask one question, if you Was there anything stopping Russia from making alliances with various countries in Eastern Europe? What stopped Putin from actually going to them and saying, Hey, join with me again, I can give you a better deal. And I'm not putting you not had done that if he had a better system of government should have done. Actually.

Unknown Speaker:

There was the Warsaw Pact,

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but the Warsaw Pact.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, great brother, the guy, the guy who was once I get the guy who wants to chime in the guy who wants to chime in, you could chime in, but there was a couple. There was a couple of ladies that was asking, Could they speak and you guys, you ladies didn't get to speak yet. If you want to speak I can remember your name, but you can jump in right now. Do not go to you, bro.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, I was there late. Okay,

Unknown Speaker:

I had to go ahead. One second brother. Go ahead, miss. Er, thank

Unknown Speaker:

you. Um, yeah, I definitely agree with Grant's earlier point about, like, the spread of American influence and like, how there's definitely more interest in home that they should be focusing on. And I think that in terms of like superpowers, like the way that we've ordered the world after World War Two is that there's different spheres of influence, right, with like the Monroe Doctrine regarding like, the western hemisphere. And then we had the idea of like, backyards and whatnot. I'm thinking back to like the Cuban missile crisis and how that was like infringing on America's backyard. And I think the same principle is relevant in case in the case of Ukraine. And I also think that given the threat of China, like as a new, like hegemonic in the world, I don't think that it's strategically in America's interest to be posturing against the Russians at the moment.

Unknown Speaker:

Although if I can make a point, there was someone that just stated that Russia's natural gas doesn't go through Ukraine. They're absolutely incorrect. They still flow through the Nord one pipeline, it's the North two pipeline that won't go through Ukraine, but the Nord one still supplies natural gas to Europe, to other points of view through Ukraine. That's a fact. And, Jerry,

Unknown Speaker:

there's another point,

Unknown Speaker:

a one second brother way to deal with the big microphone, I really need you to turn it down a little bit on I don't know if you know what it sound like. But also, I need to go talk to some new people. I need more people to engage in this conversation. All right. Can I Is there somebody new? I'd like to go ahead, bro.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, all right, brother, you know, laying some foundation, from where I started listening to the discussion. You know, we we look at what's going on there. Maybe a lot of us look at it through the prism of what our media the mainstream media tells us. And nobody looks at it from the other side. Before now, you know, there have been some referendum in Ukraine, Crimea, the referendum was monitored by the United Nations and everything. Then when the other people in the Donbass Donetsk and the other place wanted to do the United Nations didn't want to witness it, but they went on anyway. 2014 If we go to 2014, when they heard that there, is it color revolution, or whatever, and had the crew removed the lawfully elected prime minister, some of those people in that Donbass region did a protest, they protested the Trade Union Building. And what happened was that this group took everybody that came for that protest. They lock them up in that Trade Union Building. Bond, sit down. Some people try to jump out. Come on, you just went yeah, you can Google it.

Unknown Speaker:

Somebody meet that person? Yeah. Somebody needs that person. Please go.

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Google.

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moderators, can somebody help me find that lady? Can somebody might help me find that lady? Whoever has to go. I got it. There we go. Okay, hold

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it. We need to put her on a leash.

Unknown Speaker:

I know who who is that? Who's Mike was on mute. I'm just kidding. It was Sally. Ellie. How did

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John come on Jerry.

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That's why That's why you didn't guess Ron.

Unknown Speaker:

And John gets fucking weak. You acted like our president man fucking bow. Bro. I come here. I share my goddamn My. My, my time is valuable. And I come in here to learn and listen and you can't control your damn room.

Unknown Speaker:

That's exactly Jonathan. Exactly. He talked to you, John. John Dee talking to you,

Unknown Speaker:

Jerry. I told you how to be some rules. Coming up.

Unknown Speaker:

Here I'm gonna start calling you geriatric if you don't get a fucking hand.

Unknown Speaker:

My fault. It's my fault. I was tasked to monitor the room and of course I didn't do

Unknown Speaker:

it. No, no, no, no, no, no, listen, listen. Hey, my family or my, my people is down with me in this room. Are y'all gonna let Grant Cardone talk to me like that? No, hell no really scary. Oh, Dr. Jerry, right. Are y'all gonna really this one guy coming on stage who bang on me like that. This is what we're gonna do. This is what we're gonna do. Now this we're gonna do since nobody had my back. The next person whose mic is unmuted to disrupt. I'm not going to ask you to mute your mic. I'm going to immediately put you in the audience, because grant grant has a good point. unmuted mics are going to the audience instantly. Anybody else want to jump in? Jump in?

Unknown Speaker:

All right, I will feel talking. I'm not London, my plane on that. Oh, my back.

Unknown Speaker:

I apologize. Go ahead. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker:

I was saying.

Unknown Speaker:

Start over cuz I'm not sure you took off.

Unknown Speaker:

Right. Okay. 2014 D, they had, you know, is recorded as the Odessa massacre, after the president of the prime minister of Ukraine was overthrown through Doku the people from you know, the Donbass region is predominantly ethnic Russians. I mean, Russian speaking Ukrainians. So they some people that came to the Trade Union Building to protest and the hours of people, you know, they are loved to see, I think it was the C 17 or t 14, the youth group. They got all of them that came to protest and lock them up in that Trade Union Building bonded down. So they had about 2000 people try to escape jump off from the

Unknown Speaker:

brother. Let me help you a little bit. Okay, we got to, we got to get faster to wherever we're going. We got to go there faster, because I'm losing. All right.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay. All right. Okay. So that that's part of the, you know, the background of what happened and from 2014 when this thing happened to you before this war. They've killed about 20,000 people in the Donbass region and the Ukraine.

Unknown Speaker:

Ukraine, the region your combat?

Unknown Speaker:

Yes. Yes. Yeah. Is the Ukraine. Yeah. Ukraine is the

Unknown Speaker:

and where was where was America when those 20,000 people were killed?

Unknown Speaker:

I mean, they American you the government knew was going

Unknown Speaker:

I know, but what were we doing when we send in missiles? Okay, no, no, no, no, no. Number two, was the president who was the president when this was happening? But no, I mean, didn't know who was the President

Unknown Speaker:

Obama, Obama about Okay,

Unknown Speaker:

okay. Okay. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm just trying to understand what happened. Then, after that. They, they, they kind of, you know, caught on the other region. And it's been under constant bombardment, United Nation record added that they have about from 2014 till now 14,000 deaths, people killed, you know, you know, in that region, the Donbass region. Now, you know, about a couple of weeks ago, we started, you know, reading about, you know, the existence of bio, Bio Labs, you know, we put the government denied it, CNN denied it, everybody, like the said, anybody

Unknown Speaker:

came out today.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, but But two days ago, the Deputy Secretary of State, went to the Senate and said, Oh, yeah, we have, they have some labs that we are financing for Russia claims Russia is insisting that these are bio weapon lab. And if you equally look last year, you know, now people that are researching on it, and we saw that even last year, the World Health Organization are

Unknown Speaker:

calling you to shut it down. Yeah, to move on. Okay, so look, thank you for that. I want to know Who here thinks that this thing that's going on is more than what appears to be on the surface? And that this actually good be a preparation for the New World Order? 100?

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah. Oh, my God, he says, say it again, grant, a grant say it's December 24. The holidays.

Unknown Speaker:

What you're doing is the new world. Order. So the gentleman 20,000 people were killed in Ukraine during Obama's watch, at which time I think we were in Afghanistan with our hands full. So taking on a second war in another place in another location. You just can't do that. I mean, we could only fight so many wars that wasn't even popular. So to go do another one. Then we went from that to Trump, and whatever his four years did. And then and then we had COVID for the last two years. I said when COVID was over, we would find ourselves in a war. And it literally wasn't 12 minutes between COVID disappears because this war pops up. You can't find COVID On page three right now. So my point is, we printed more money during COVID than any other war that we've ever been in. But COVID Lost popularity with the people. It lost popularity in these rooms. People got tired of it. Even the people that were pro vaccine were like, We got to move on. This has got to end at some point. When that ended, we found ourselves in another war that we will fund that Russia will fund the robots gotten slammed the ones under pressure right now, all of Europe will get threatened financially, because of this. US depends on Europe, we depend on a lot of these countries, our economy will be hurt our stock markets off. So this could be a setup for the destruction of currencies worldwide that had been printed in mass, and at levels that have never been seen on this planet.

Unknown Speaker:

And moving forward, I agree. 100%.

Unknown Speaker:

One woman one woman I need just once like I just need one person is there anybody just came to the stage that I just bought up a second ago to would love to speak in Seoul, state your name and jump right in Jason. Jason Jason Lee, go ahead, and I'll go to I didn't hear your name and scratch Jason,

Unknown Speaker:

Jason B. And I'm saying I think COVID never left. Honestly. I was hearing like New York was made. ended up making sure you have your vaccine card. Other places. Yeah, like other countries. That was Lacson awesome. But then other countries was gearing up. So honestly, COVID never left. I think what happened now is that we have a war. So that's really just being talked about. Again, I spoke to someone in Ukraine, they say they have COVID I honestly don't think COVID never left. I just think

Unknown Speaker:

I got a question. Jason. Jason, Jason, are you vaccinated?

Unknown Speaker:

I am Pfizer all the way double dose and I don't think I'm taking another one.

Unknown Speaker:

Your Pfizer all the way double dose? Isa, he got a gold plaque on the wall with

Unknown Speaker:

a storm. But you're not going to get another shot. Is that right? If they ask you to get another shot,

Unknown Speaker:

right now, I'm not what I was. I took the bills because I was traveling out of the countries and I thought probably the smartest thing to do, but I'm gonna

Unknown Speaker:

put you down, bro. You gonna mute your mic? Yeah. Go ahead. Jay. Can you hear me? Yes. Oh, I

Unknown Speaker:

was saying I was saying that. Um, I took it because I was going to other countries. So I just thought that was a smart thing to do. Unless people start dropping like flies again. I don't see myself you know, taking another one unless it looks Hey, Eric,

Unknown Speaker:

question for you. So you felt people were dropping like flies? Cuz you said again? So that's why you took it because he saw people dropping like flies.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, man. When you start hearing people around you somebody know somebody that died. Other people talking? It's on the news. I mean, to me, it's like dropping like flies.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, just want to hear your perspective on it. You know, I'm always curious and people's views.

Unknown Speaker:

Let me say some real quick.

Unknown Speaker:

Jerry Can I can I quickly say somebody?

Unknown Speaker:

I need to know his name because I need to run some ads in him

Unknown Speaker:

What's your name? Brother, Jason B. He's Jason bees on this stage. Jason be okay.

Unknown Speaker:

As long as I get you know, some somebody that grant cuz I know you bought that dollar.

Unknown Speaker:

Let's go and let's let's eat together.

Unknown Speaker:

Sounds great.

Unknown Speaker:

Is there anybody is there anybody else on this stage has not had an opportunity to speak, they wants to speak also, I got five hand raises. I'm gonna cut it off. And I'm looking for some new hand raised I want to bring to the stage jumping. Is there anybody who's not spoken or they want to jump? One second. What should they miss? Melissa? Melissa, Melissa. Go ahead, Melissa. Hey, Jerry. I

Unknown Speaker:

just wanted to kind of chime in to what grant side because I'm on the same page as him. I think Russia stands against the progression of the New World Order, and is one of the only countries not run by the centralized banks, by the Rothschilds and those rich families. So I think that he's pretty much a Freemason and the globalist control the banking system and the currency and Russia's just not standing for it. So that's just my personal opinion. This is Melissa and I'm lending my plane. Thank you, Melissa. That's right.

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Thank you, Melissa. So so once

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Jerry as long as you guys look at a map as long as China covers his back door there this guy he can he can he can stand it for a while this guy is not a bully that doesn't throw a punch He's a bully that will follow through

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that hurt he said a bully to the don't throw a punch and there's so many of those and he Oh, wow. Okay, is there anybody else who wants to jump in this conversation? It was a brother that said something so go ahead,

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bro. Yeah, so Tony, how you guys trouble trouble trouble this is

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a this last okay? I'm not gonna warn y'all no more everybody I read to put five people down to the audience. This making noise Go ahead, bro.

Unknown Speaker:

All right, Grant is correct. And so as Melissa, there's a book out there by Sam, it's, I believe Sam Jackson, honey, talking about the clash of civilizations, and it predicted 30 years ago to today that we would see a this conflict of ideas, and civilizations that are based on traditions, culture, and way that people would do things in the past and bring them to the present. And we're seeing that with the revitalization of Chinese culture within China. We saw that with Putin, with him being a very strong Russian Orthodox, and really bringing back the Russian sphere of influence that has existed for 3000 years. And we see that also with the United States, with Europe, being that we are in a very Eurocentric world. I mean, that's how it is economically, that has tried to push against these different types or traditions and ideals that people are now rejecting. We saw that also in Hungary. For the past five to six years, there has been a very progress, not progressive, but rather conservative movement with Hungary, even though they're very strong supporter, generally of Hungary. The President said, No, we do not accept Putin going into Ukraine, however, we are a very strong Christian oriented country, and we maintain our ideals and our and who we are as a culture and traditions. And so we see that today. This right. Civilization is occurring once again.

Unknown Speaker:

Right. Appreciate you. Hey, but I don't know if you know, you read that book. But there's another person you could look up that did similar predictions, except those hundreds of years ago. His name is Nostradamus. A lot of this stuff he talked about. Almost makes sense today, you know, so thank you, brother.

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Hi, man.

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Jerry, have you had one a

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worse I get one second microphone guy, man that microphones annoying me. There. There's a lady that was jumping in. Go ahead, miss. Yes.

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My name is Jan. Um, I'm just I was trying to figure out what was going on in Russia. I mean, in Ukraine, and

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trying to figure it out. I wanted to know,

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more. More, so I googled it. And documentary, there's a documentary on Netflix. It's called Winter on fire. And it is it is spot on. And it's really good. And it shows like the whole coup that happened there. So you see what why people are fighting so hard. So I just wanted to add that.

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You know what, I want to go back to my man with the mic, microphone, brother. Go ahead. Jump in. Go ahead, Mike. Buddy. Here.

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Here we go. Here we go. Jerry, here's the

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throw that filter to the bottom and you guys didn't last for bed mics.

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Hold on, hold on. Let me let me let me quickly.

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I'm Jonathan, I'm the main moderator. And I give you permission to speak bro. I don't know what Grant Cardone is doing, brother. But you could speak for 10 minutes if you want to.

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Know, you might you might say

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let me just say this. Let me just say this. Back off,

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too deep, too deep, bro.

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Back off of the microsemi He's right. He's a little bit annoying the hell he's tasted it. Tickle it a little bit. Don't swallow it. Yeah. Play with it now I'm gonna throw up yeah, that was weird, man. He said poppin

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Wait a second. Wait a second. Great microphone. Well

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Brad is on

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the road today. I know. I know. I know. I know. Go ahead. Great. Literally talk May. Miss.

Unknown Speaker:

Hi. Yes, my name is Laureen and I'm a real estate agent here in Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada. And today we are allowed to not wear our masks. Oh my goodness. Anyways, the freedom I feel. I can't get out of my country at the moment but that's a whole nother story. I am full agreement that we are heading towards towards the next new world order. My question is I am a I'm wondering if anybody can just lead me in the right direction.

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Okay, won't believe it.

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Okay. Some advice because I know we're heading that direction. We know that we're heading that direction. I am A grandma of six beautiful grandchildren all over the world. I am a mom of two beautiful kids. And then there's me and I just want to know how do I best prepare myself? I'm sitting here in Canada, by myself going, how do I prepare myself for these? What we know that isn't inevitable. So I'm just gonna land my playing there. Thank you.

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I like what you were saying. Oh, you were kind of like, you know, speaking. I like what she was saying, Jonathan.

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Absolutely. But man, I'm gonna tell you in Canada, you guys are just sit back. We're gonna tell you guys what to do either. Like always say don't worry about it. Just follow what we tell you to do. That was

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a that was a that was a nice job. That wasn't nice. That wasn't nice.

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I'm not talking about Canada. Sit back, relax. We're gonna grant Do you disagree with me? Oh, Grant, do you disagree with me? We tell Canada what they're doing candidate list is pretty much correct.

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It's too late.

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Honest to goodness, I really do have folks.

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I would not. I would not personally, I would try to. If you're asking for real advice, I would do everything I could to get your situation and your family into another picture live in another place. And I think everybody here everybody in this room should always be looking for where can I go? If? What do I need to get there? If if where would my family be better off? Ukraine was given a warning in 2014. And those people didn't leave. And now Now they're dealing with what they didn't confront. So guys, there's always warnings. Things don't just happen suddenly, there's very few accidents on this planet. Things are planned out. And you get warnings so that you can protect yourself and or make your move.

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Grant I appreciate that. Thank you so much. So I I'm going to run the border so which where should I go? Don't go to LA Okay,

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Texas Tech, Ukrainian Ukrainian help rebuilding.

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Go to Belize. Belize. Belize welcome you beliefs.

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All right. I'm just getting

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underwater.

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My mom was my mom's from Belize man and Canada is God's country. I'm not going anywhere.

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We got to we got we got 200 acres out there, Mary. Okay, good. Anybody else? Yes. Yes. I love it there. I'll share video with you will my mother out there clowning are not talking about anybody else want to jump in?

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I just want to add to Laureen There are nine countries that you could go to without having a vaccine Hungary just released ended their mandate yesterday. Mexico you can go in Dominican Republic. And there's another list that I have

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a motion about your voice it always sounds like it's breaking when you start talking to sound so

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it is important. It is important.

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I thank you. Thank you so much for that. I just can't get out. I can't get on the plane. They won't let me get out at the moment. I can't

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wait are you the one dancing in that? gray dress?

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Yeah, that Laureen that's me. That's me. Yeah.

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How are you? How are you lazy so cut up.

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Oh, boy. Here we go. Again, Derek i Oh, my God. Hard work. Okay,

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my You damn haters. Are y'all kidding? I got a boo. I'm not trying to flirt with her. I got a boo. Probably listening right

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now. You know what, I'm not afraid of hard work. And I'm not afraid of packing up and going somewhere that makes more sense. And I did hear somebody in the audience saying they're staying put and I've been staying put to this point. But I have to admit I do. I do appreciate the wisdom of Mr. Cardona. Because if this is what he's saying, you know, it's being spoken that we can

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go device first.

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Yeah. I know. Loving it, loving it, but I really appreciate this and the thing is, it's just a matter of me getting out. I think we're the only country if you aren't if you've chosen not to be vaccinated. We can't get out. They won't let us out. We can't fly within the country. We can't get out and that's the crossover and Montana.

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Montana

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what kind of life is that?

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Exactly? No,

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you ladies like that? Why is Bobby

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got out?

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Okay, everybody. Go ahead.

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One of those unwatched border crossings man that closes at 8pm in Montana.

Unknown Speaker:

Ah, Jonathan, could you enlighten me about this vodka caveat this oil ban? Could you?

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Yeah, why in just they're going to destroy Russia economically and they are banning, like some of their prized exports such as vodka Russian vodka you know I mean it's Russian vodka is supposed to be some the best vodka in the world you know vodka you know Russia the diamonds as well. Yeah, so I supposedly okay I'm not gonna I don't I don't make absolutes and and then the caviar Russian caviar and that should affect grant you know and you Jerry because I know you have you on your on your burgers and things of that nature but as well as rushing

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like why gotta be a burger bro. Why are you gonna say a burger? Why can't I guess he likes

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it? Because as well cook most likely guy. So no, you will cookie meets so once again. So yeah, so they're they're banning the exports. So the goal here guys is by and I'm gonna be honest, you all you guys are talking about Biden Biden has been gangster as hell. Biden has been gangster as hell with these with these sanctions. He has been these sanctions that Russia has seen.

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total bullshit. I cannot.

Unknown Speaker:

How is it bullshit? This thing is working. Everyone's closed down inside of Russia. The Russian people are filling this day. The Russian people

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putting a ban on Caviar doesn't care putting a ban on vodka. Adding a fucking ban, bro. Grant, you're right. That's stupid. Nostrovia I cannot believe you think that putting a ban on vodka is gonna make anybody suffer.

Unknown Speaker:

Great. Let me just say so grant. Well, you don't have it. Guess what he what we're doing is we're not sending one per one person in there to eat elephant. We're sending 100 people in there to eat a goddamn elephant. Okay. And that's what's going on in the Vaca, the oil, all these different sanctions that's happening, everything all has happening comes together and act collectively and make life a miserable held here. And that's what's going on. And you guys got to get credit, because you guys don't want to go to war. You all you guys said no, we shouldn't go to war grant. You said no. It's not going to war over. Ever. It's not worth going to war or when we're not going to war. And we're not okay. Well, what's going on over there? What the hell are we gonna do? anyone tell me no, no, everyone, everyone that says that we should not go to war.

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Very clear what we should do. Okay. What is it? I I made it clear to everybody in the room. What I said I would do. You weren't here or what?

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Yeah, it was quiet. Be quiet. Think about something that

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everybody knows what I said. Jerry. You know what, you know what I said? Your your Gary. John. Gonna say Jonathan, what?

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He said he put that money. He said he was Miss Miss your name is not Jerry. Goodness. He said he will put that money towards infants things in the in the US? No, no, no.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm not talking my dad. My question was if we're not okay with what Russia is doing, and we're not prepared to go to war, I would call

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Putin and the Lenski. I would call the entire NATO's of forces groups, the European countries and say, Hey, guys, number one world power. We ain't doing nothing. Y'all go ahead and fucking waste your resources, do whatever you think you need to do. We're investing all of our money in 50 states. In America, we're gonna fix our technology, fix our roads, fix our hospitals, fix our education, fix our health care, you guys want to rape each other, go for a while you guys do that, we're going to become the shining example on this planet. And your people and your neighbors will laugh at both of you when this is over. That's what

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they can call.

Unknown Speaker:

Again, too many resources. And if you do go to work, we have the resources to get the equipment we need.

Unknown Speaker:

We need to set such an example here that everybody looks at it might take a few years. But but everybody needs to look the rest of the world go to Dubai, look at Singapore, go to these other countries and see how orderly they are folks. And then you're going to fly to God what are our airports not look like that? Why do our roads and our buildings not look like that? Why do people not have health care in our country, but they have it there? Go there and see what they have built in the short period of time? 12 years, okay, or 15 years they built that when we could be doing the same thing and we could be a completely different place for our children 10 or 15 years from now and the world will watch what we're doing

Unknown Speaker:

the grant Yes, you can say something like What the president's doing in America is so divided one party is in ever the other party's against what the other party does something the other party is against. That's why I always agree with Jonathan Bing in this room. And no matter what they do grant it no matter if he even did that grant, you'd be against him right? And then landing my plane right there.

Unknown Speaker:

But the whole point is,

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I wouldn't be against against him at all. I'm not against him. Now. I'm just telling you putting a sanction on Caviar will not put will not stop putting from doing what he's doing. I said this Three nights ago, you can only do sanctions. A sanction can only be imposed once you can't make. They can't be like, okay. You can't add to it. For something to be a powerful push on somebody, you have to put more pressure and more pressure, he went from stopping gas into take not taking oil into the United States, because stopping banning caviar, I wonder how many people in this room if ever bought caviar,

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currency lose a third of its value?

Unknown Speaker:

He did a lot more than that he restricted their access to Swift. He had global markets divest from Russia and Russia. And specifically, Grant makes a comment about, you know, the United States of being a shining city on the hill, how does this shining city on a hill, take a look at genocide and ethnic cleansing and turn the other way and say we're gonna invest in us infrastructure

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in every way? Well, we're just homeless the same way it ignores the homeless, and the people that can't feed themselves in the country. Same way, pal. A, TC,

Unknown Speaker:

TC, TC, TC, TC, TC, look at your back channel, TC. Go ahead, Mary.

Unknown Speaker:

And you know, the thing is when when you say that, or anybody says that, I mean, the press knows that everything that that we do is we sit and we want to be empathetic, right? So it doesn't matter. Let me give you an example of something first of all, Ethiopia, go check that out. Now, there's genocide happening there, people are being starved right now. Because they can't get out there under under a control of one particular government and they're being starved to death, little babies are being starved to death. So it's whatever the press is wanting to show you is what you buy into, you know, when Trump I'm not gonna win, look, we'll call him whatever president you want to call him. But when he before he even became president, like after he was, before he was inaugurated a bit after he won, he actually went to the carrier plant, the air conditioning, you know, company heating company, and they were building a factory in Mexico wasn't done yet. So he's like, Okay, I'm going to try to keep these jobs in America. And I think he ended up keeping some to the tune of like, 10,000 jobs in America before he even was inaugurated. And you know, what the press did, the press went down to Mexico. And they talked to the families in Mexico with the little kids in Mexico, and said, What a bad person that Trump was for, for taking their jobs away right before Christmas, and made everybody in the United States feel bad that that, that that factory wasn't in Mexico. So like, you can sit and you can you can listen to all the propaganda that you want. But the point is, is genocide is happening every single day, whether you're paying attention to it or not, it's just the presses delivering you exactly what they want to deliver. And you're eating it and and taking every single bite and watching it the way that they want you to this isn't random.

Unknown Speaker:

But the question was, why isn't government

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ignoring it? Not we're not talking about the media. Well, you

Unknown Speaker:

know what, that's a good point. But I got another point I want to make. I want to thank everybody once again for joining debate. The news really appreciate y'all supporting us. We're new club. So I'm going to ask you to follow these beautiful moderators that jump on stage with us every single day. But I'm going to really ask you to follow Mr. Jonathan Bing, follow myself and follow Grant Cardone who the sponsor of this room, our sponsor of this room, once again, follow Grant Cardone follow Jonathan Bing and follow myself and make sure you guys put the bell on because we only going to cool rooms you guys want to be part of also follow the greenhouse at the top. We got about maybe 4000 followers in the club, or 4000 members rather, we want to get that to about 10,000 before the month is up. So thank you everybody, and welcome and enjoy debate the news let's get back to the debate. Anybody else want to jump out? Yeah, I want to see rock hold on hold on. I see rock when see rock talk. Everybody got to listen go here.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, grant I want to just kind of you know the polling inside and taking care of you know us is a noble cause I agree with that. But we also need to make sure that we clarify the fact that isolating ourselves is dangerous. I think it was a low 18 of the power the the 48 Laws of Power talked about. Don't build fortresses to protect yourself. Isolation is dangerous. You need to remain outgoing and maintain contact with others allies, otherwise you will not know what's going on and they will team up against you. So just something to clarify that making sure that Yes, take care of ourselves, but also remain social with other countries and allies. Zero.

Unknown Speaker:

No one suggested that NATO's calling Putin's bluff in this, if it's proven this challenging for his infantry to conquer Ukraine, the poorest country in Europe, how likely is it that that same infantry would perform better against 30 countries of NATO all wealthier and better equipped than Ukraine?

Unknown Speaker:

I think Putin just doesn't want it to look like he's just trying to bomb everything, because any look off the bat. So you've just been politely trying to knock the door down.

Unknown Speaker:

I'd love to say something. And it's Jessica. I've been wanting to comment on what Grant was saying about you. Good. Jessica, go. Thank you, thank you about putting the money back into the United States. You know, he's right. 100%. You know, I'm not like you guys, I listen, I come on here. And I know you guys have lots of money and everything like that I'm one of those people that is hurting. And when I see that the United States is giving $20 billion to Ukraine, why I can't find a home. And my daughter is sitting in a hospital, because she tried to hurt herself at 14 years of age. And there are kids sitting in there in the ER waiting two to three days to go into a mental health facility that makes me go where what's what's going on? I mean, we have to take care of ourselves, the United States have to step up and do something you cannot build a home without a strong foundation. And right now, we don't have a strong foundation, there are 1000s and 1000s of families displaced. There are 1000s of people hurting right now. And I and I empathize and sympathize with Ukraine. But I'm looking at it from a point of view of somebody who, who has experience experiencing what's going on and knowing that they need to strengthen, they need to help our healthcare system, and they need to come up with a way for affordable housing, because there just is nothing right now. And it's not fair to turn on the TV and see them give someone $20 billion when we're sitting here going, what the heck, we can't even get help in our own state. So that's that's what I wanted to say. I just thank you. I appreciate it.

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Thank you, Jessica. Thank you, Jessica. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker:

I think that's a valid point, like you make some valid points that there is a lot of hurt in this country. But the way I see it is like, what if the United States doesn't provide any type of military aid any type of financial aid to Ukraine, and Russia thinks that they can just bulldoze over Ukraine? Then Moldova is next. And then they bulldoze over Ukraine, over Moldova. And United States just stands by and does nothing. There's a reason why we're in we're having to put financial resources into helping to build a defense of another ruckus, the idea that they can roll over all these other countries. Who's to say Turkey? Or who's to say Poland is not next, and now they've affected the the NATO alliance?

Unknown Speaker:

You guys are giving credit to the Russian military?

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Who's to say that what?

Unknown Speaker:

The Russian military struggling against poor Ukrainian citizen, right.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, once again, somebody that the matrix once like everybody, everybody, mute your mic, please. Peter. Peter, your mic is staying muted. I don't want to put you in the audience. Brother. You got to keep your mic muted. And and also, because the echoes. Anybody else want to jump in, continue on one at a time, for instance? Yes, your next.

Unknown Speaker:

Oh, yeah, I find it interesting. was one second said I'm just before your last one seconds. I find it interesting again. It's like everybody seems to be such an expert. Right. But you don't listen to the individual who's expertly told you what he is doing this whole idea that oh, this other country is going to be next and all this other stuff? Yeah, fine, good speculation, opinion. We haven't listened to what the man said. The guy said, he's tired of America already. And the guy said, you know, America's got bilateral. It's come to light now that they were funding bylaws. I'm saying this, what a week ago, two weeks ago, I think in a space. And I think maybe people were hearing it too. And it's not even about an ego thing to say that I said it, but it's to say that it has been stated. Right? That literally do you drain or sorry, Ukraine? Right. They have their own biolabs? The the the the what was it the the US Department of Defense were funding those bilateral I think it was in 2013 they signed an agreement right now we're looking at you know, now we're hearing certain individuals testify saying Oh, yeah, you know, if there's a if there's a sort of a chemical attack, it's gonna definitely be Russia. Bow, like we understand what's going on here. If he knows that he's going to be fitted up for something. He wants to make sure in my opinion that he's got the hand he's got a handle over these biolabs so at least he can and even He wants to expose it to the world that this is what the American government's doing right? And I think he's been successful in that. Because everybody again, there's still you have the people that want to debate it. And it's like, well, it's come to light. How much more obvious do you need it to be? How much more obviously, if it looks like a duck, and it sounds like a duck, it's probably a duck, unless it's an AI tech thing and you're using it on and you're in the metaverse are probably being listened to what the individual saying he's saying what it is, why don't why everybody else has to make some extra song and dance and editorialized reality, or what he's saying. He said it listen to the individual. It's very simple. something dodgy is going on in Ukraine, in Ukraine, and people need to actually wake up and ask those questions because everything else is irrelevant. Otherwise, we're again playing into the powers that be plan to keep us propagandize in

Unknown Speaker:

Augusta you know some justice. I'm say some for you guys to be we over you guys are little brothers. Okay, over here in UK, you guys are little brothers and stuff. I know, you guys want to be like us, you know, and everything else. But you get a warped view of what's going on. So because Putin has said something that makes it so Putin it says, oh, there's biolabs. So you're saying that because Putin said it? And now and now the world's realizing it, but yet there's been not one documented piece of evidence to prove that, okay, but yet Putin said it so as fact, come on Brom, you.

Unknown Speaker:

So what you're saying, so once again, let me respond. So what you're saying is that, and I don't know who that is, what if it's a lion hide individual just simmer down low, Simba or point being? At the end of the day, right? Again, what are you saying to me that I have to listen to the United States of America, we listened, I listened. I watched on TV as we saw 911 happen. Big brother, right? I saw that. And then I was propagandized to and told as my consent was manufactured, that you know that Saddam had weapons of manufacturing to get menu. Mass Destruction. Again, I'm not writing for Putin, we're not friends on Facebook, I'm saying to you, literally, sometimes you got to listen to the other side, right? And if you're asking me to listen to what America says, I'm just tired of listening. Because one minute, it's that I'm hearing that America is the bastion of white supremacy. And now you're telling me to listen to the same people who are supposedly the bastions of supremacy. Tell me that what I'm seeing what I'm hearing is bollocks. It's just doesn't make any sense. It's the height of

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what are you seeing are you just say, what are you seeing? What are you seeing?

Unknown Speaker:

What am I say? What am I seeing? I'm seeing again to suppose it superpower tell me that what I'm hearing, or what I'm seeing with my own eyes is bollocks. Right? As opposed to and let me tell you let me my phone is dying.

Unknown Speaker:

All right. I love you, man. Come back, we get a charge of Rome.

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Vladimir Putin, the Fed on February 21. Sad that I'm going into these two regions, the Donbass regions to conduct quote, peacekeeping operations, that was is a sensible reason. Does anyone really believe that? I got a bridge to sell, you know, Can I finish? Can I finish? Please?

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She's talking, she's talking

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up. Okay, so here's what has happened. And this is why there is such a distrust on this stage, particularly, but in many places, although I think most of the country doesn't distrust this much such a distrust of the EU of the government, our government and such a predilection for conspiracy theories that were actually not looking at what was actually said about biological laboratories. There are no bio weapons, there are biological laboratories, which the US has funded help to fund since 2005. It's done that with a number of countries, because how do you know this? Because it because that's what the Secretary of State, that's what Victoria Nuland actually. Because someone said something. Well, you had a you know, what grant exactly, is basically saying that it's not in England is saying, Oh, I don't believe them. All right.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm not making a statement you are. That's what I'm asking you. So

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in congressional testimony, she said that Ukraine has biological research facilities, and those research facilities are being used for things like there's something called African swine fever, I looked this up. And there are a lot of there are a lot of potentially dangerous pathogens in these lives in these biological weapons. They are not bio weapons, we study things like this to make sure they don't get out and maybe, as we've now seen, go over to humans and can be used. Do you think there are no biological labs? Do you think there should be no biological bio weapons?

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Why are they why are they

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everywhere? They're all

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titled to doing whatever they want in their labs.

Unknown Speaker:

I don't understand this. America has a lot of level two, level three, level four, we keep certain pathogens and level four everybody knows this. Why is this all of a sudden become oh my god, they must be planning on you know, releasing bio weapons. It's not Hold on because of COVID that's fine because you know her lack of

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critical thinking skills and circuits are

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critical. But you have none but that's okay fine. I am I am just look at the actual look at what what Nuland actually said go look at the program I forget what it's called the biological defense program like reading about it What are you doing?

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independent country during title to developing whatever the fuck they want? What if they want to develop weapons? They're an independent country they can do whatever they want.

Unknown Speaker:

Alright, so check it out. No one?

Unknown Speaker:

No, it's illegal I believe to develop bio weapons. So no, they cannot do

Unknown Speaker:

anything illegal over there by creating bio weapons in labs. And you can see here I've been married and you think why are you being so naive? And are you a plant? Because here's the thing. Tyra you don't

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joke. You're a joke.

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I'm just gonna because it's illegal. I can't do it.

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Grants. I just want to say Tirra Tirra I

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checked you out.

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You're not check a boat. I nobody can find you on Instagram. You're not a real name.

Unknown Speaker:

Something about who? I originally came on on my original name. And I got death threats. I was very upset. There's a guy named Brian's Adigun, who has checked me out. Jonathan also knows who I am. There are a couple of people who actually know who I really am. But I am not planning on telling this whole stage filled with a lot of people who literally give me death threats. For Christ's sake, what do I need this shit for? Okay.

Unknown Speaker:

You don't trust the people in clubhouse, but you trust other countries to abide by the

Unknown Speaker:

laws? No, I think they're already a country too. But somebody said they can do this. And I'm saying no. In America.

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America. America won't ever ever do anything wrong.

Unknown Speaker:

No, that's not true at all, of course.

Unknown Speaker:

And Ukraine had nothing to do with I don't believe

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Ukraine was developing bio weapons No, and I don't

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peacekeeping missions. Something is very little Listen, something's actually pretty interesting. And I wanted to do some research on the Azar battalion. And I think that's a no

Unknown Speaker:

Oh, Jesus.

Unknown Speaker:

Don't don't hold on. So let's talk about it here because we seriously have a problem if they're doing training camps, neo Nazi training.

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How many Neo Nazis there are in rock

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worse? I know what it does. It doesn't you know,

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unfortunately. In our military,

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bro, listen, it still gives me a very valid point. When it go it does

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not because What's hard is part of the Ukrainian

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eggs and these people that are now a part of the Ukraine military force. Even the even the Canadians turned down training them, the Americans train them and then realize that they're Nazis and then declined training them in 2015. So the problem is with he's using specific language that we can't even react to because he's telling the fucking truth in his truth. And it's the truth. We can't argue those things. The

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trade is more peaceful now.

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Basically, bombing? Yeah, let's talk about the peacekeeping operation. How's

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the shuffling of a partner? Can

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we kind of forget that we

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mean that what you're saying what he's doing to the Ukrainian people is okay, here, I'm just saying to his point, and to what you're discussing his peacekeeping, he's discussing something very specific, that is factual. And there is information out there so is everything we're being fed through or not? Because a lot of people don't even know about this, what I'm saying care, they don't know Ukraine, shut off the dam and shut off all the water to that region that don't the Crimea region down there. They don't know the inner issues that Putin has been dealing with now. I'm not saying it was right or wrong, because obviously they were at war and he took the damn land out to cut the water off too. But it still has all the little tensions and things that bill are

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you raising it if they were trying to defend their country and now you're saying oh, that's

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a simple fact that this is exactly how a little bigger turn into big ones. Okay. He had a real issue with Neo Nazis. Okay, that's what his claim was. And then that turned off the water

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main challenge is Ukraine trying to join NATO. I'm trying to join me you. You can't do that. Because because we will not allow kooba to do what they're

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missing. That's all I'm saying. why they

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do what they want? Why do you think that Russia will allow Ukraine to do what they want?

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There's many pieces on my brother, but our missiles are already close enough to Moscow to destroy it. It doesn't matter if we take another 100 Fucking miles closer to Russia, we're close enough. And we have plenty to sit around them. He doesn't want that one nation fine. Again, there's multiple chess pieces on this table. And what we're trying to discuss is why Putin is doing it. Putin has came to that table on multiple occasions and said, why he's doing it, and said, why he's doing it. And we're reviewing what he's doing based on what he said, when there are factual things out there about what he stated. So that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying there are factual things out there in his truth that we wouldn't agree with as Americans either.

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Okay. There's a little bit of truth, and lies all the time. Like, what position are you taking? Oh, great, he put a little bit of tubing in Superfly. What the hell?

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You're telling me that I'm taking a little bit of truth and all of his lies. And that's not exactly what I'm doing is I'm exposing that there is truth in everyone saying they're all? That's it?

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Correct. You know, I read minds, correct. Because, again, it's like, depending upon your political ideology, or wherever you stand on it on a political scale, you decided to take a position right? And this is what's interesting, but I don't even know what we man's position I don't think I know, I don't have one position.

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He's a he's a weak man.

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Listen, listen, listen. Understand the nature thing. First, you must observe it right. And if you want to understand where they're coming from, just listen to what the fact is saying. Don't listen to sources close to or people familiar with their thinking, listen to the fucking horse, and listen to it come from the horse's mouth. And this is what people are saying. It's not it's not right that we have to listen to the likes of CNN, MSNBC, or the BBC Marquez, or Russia to listen to what the guy is saying, maybe Washington, it was a bad boy, listen to what the individual saying, right? And then ask yourself why we've not been allowed to listen to what he's saying. Couldn't be them. Because what he's saying that to me has a modicum of truth. And it's more in line with what he's actually thinking as opposed to what people close to what he's thinking or familiar with his thinking or actually that come on man, with anybody who knows anything, right? has kind of gone back and listened and done their due diligence and I'm not trying to say that I'm the most educated on this by fire not but I am saying people smarter than myself are saying people have been warned about this company. America should not should not have been there's a there's an issue in is an issue with America being Ukraine. There's something fucked up happening there. And anybody who's critical in the way to think about reality is asking us questions. So I don't think it's smart for anybody to turn around and start to argue truth to finance if they actually have the the intelligence because they do not because they're not even willing to listen to the individual himself. How can you tell anybody else then who is that everyone?

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Because there is intelligence out there that does that does provide that support? You feel what I'm saying? So What side do I take? Listen, man, Russia and China will always be enemies to me Period. Period. Bottom fucking line. Okay. What I knew about those countries and how they attack us daily, they will always be an enemy to me, but the

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Russian attacked America cyber war What about China? What about China? China, not doing nothing to China

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doing shit every single day, just as every superpower has. Every single day right now there's motherfuckers that are doing shit. So you can eat dinner right now.

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You know the thing. The thing about this is that we are towing the past and towing the the narrative of the big corporations that have interest to protect in in Ukraine and all you have the big pharmaceuticals. I don't want competition. You have the big oil companies that don't want competition. And they're making Russia to be the enemy. What has Russia done to America? Oh, they hack in defending us disinformation. And China that is actually doing the right thing. China took over Nortel Networks from Canada not that used to be the biggest and they tore it down and that's how we network came about and we don't even look at them as the enemy and Russia What does Russia done? Russia gave us Alaska does it free of charge they gave Alaska to America. You know we really asking Because I do my own research I don't allow CNN to debate I mean these guys on the network the media mainstream media

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if your research and no one

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claimed that Russia's

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wasting what was the guy's name? It was talking grant.

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I don't know. Him and weed man had a good discussion going. What's that dude's name?

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I we need to go ahead.

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Were you like yeah, like were you gonna stage Yeah, we definitely like your conversation brother need to mind you.

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On weed man, weed man.

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Yo, and weed man, we need to also know what your go to strain is because I need about a half of it. Like all that energy.

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That way, man, man. I like the way you talk. Don't tell me what you need and donate. I'll tell you what you need.

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Let me let me let me just step in. We want you to come back here.

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When you guys come on, I'm not muting. I'm not when you guys come up. When you guys come up on stage and y'all y'all y'all rip it Johnny. Tell them what we're gonna do.

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Desk is listen,

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I listen every night to have a conversation about everything I've heard. Okay, when I hear it. I've already done the research on business management and it requires pretty whatever you

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say whatever you say JJ Jackson, a

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little bit of truth. Right? You get a lot of people to buy into the whole bunch of stories like you hear a Gus he's talking about. We got to listen to him and just hear him out. Believe what he says. The whole hour straight

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up fucking liars. What

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is a former He's a former KGB agent. And here we are talking about holding water for Putin talking about LISTEN to Him and believe what I'm staying

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with him being a KGB guy,

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and steeped in the Art of Deception. And this is Steve and trained in the art of misinformation on

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CNN. On the double standards

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about a KGB

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one second, what was the one person I don't even know who's talking right now, TC starting to enjoy playing my grant easy

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to make. Everybody wants to give Putin the space he needs to make his claims for all of his grievances that he that he's experienced. And the problem is, is that Putin doesn't deserve an audience. He's a former KGB agent, a ghost. This goes on and on about why we need to listen to Him and believe what he says

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he's a world player. Now. No, that's bullshit. You got to listen to this guy is in power. He's, he's one of the three world leaders on this planet. Man. Are you kidding? He's not worth listening to.

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He's, again, intelligence from his motives is what I'm saying, Oh, this, this is saying Listen to me. Now you tried it

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and gone cold. Again, this is what I'm telling you. You got to listen to the people that you say that are your enemies. But if you don't study your enemies, how the hell are you going to understand? You're saying to me, you're 20 you're telling me that you're getting your intelligence from somebody else who is who understands his thinking, when you could listen to what the individual is saying. And you can understand exactly what he's thinking. Right? And I understand what you're saying. Yeah, of course, this is a former KGB operative, and you know, he's steeped in the Art of Deception. But tell me please, my brother, who has more to get like, who should I listen to more Putin? Or fucking, or the mixed race butter on CNN? What are you talking about? Like, who should I listen to more? I'm gonna listen to both. I'm going to listen to all the people, and I'm gonna listen to their political analysts. I'm going every single individual, I'm going to draw my own conclusions. And I am saying, like, I think remember saying is that if you understand where he's coming from, what he's been saying, and what he's been doing seems to be pretty in line. It's just that when I listen to the likes of the American corporate media, they're the people trying to spin the truth. So you can get upset you can be as pissed as much as you like, but I'm just saying to you, as I'm a critical thinker, this is what I'm doing. And if I happen to be right, and I happen to be right and this is again, the thing that seems to happen with people who are of a particular psychographic my brother that's what I was gonna say to so because that was

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one one second go ahead. No Is there is there a lady that want to jump in the conversation? Is there a lady jump in the conversation? Ah, Santa waiting Santa has been waiting ever remember everybody keep your mics muted or put your audience Go ahead, Santa.

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Yeah. Listen, guys, I have I have been through wars worse in my life. And I think as as much as we can, America can we should not interfere in any wars and leave Putin and Zelinsky to themselves. NATO should not interfere. Zaretsky should surrender. His playing with fire. He's not about what the whole word into a word word free, and we're not ready for that. And I agree with Grant when he says we should take care of ourselves of America of the good of the people and try and progress like in Dubai, where I live for 27 years. They don't interfere in anyone, they just want peace. And that's what we should do. Zielinski is playing is like a little mouse, playing with a with a line, and put in knows what he wants. Russia can survive very well, without NATO and without the USA with the support of China and Turkey and other big powers. And we shouldn't forget that Russia was a communist country, and they survived really well with communism. So I don't think I put in knows what he's doing. I think he should be left alone. He should do whatever he wants to do. And just

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Yeah, I agree with this, this Alinsky guy, his whole election. Who put him in place? Whoever put him in place, he's telling him what to do now. All I had to do was say Yes, sir. Mr. Putin, whatever you need, sir, I'm here to serve you. But you know what, he's not here to serve. He's here to serve somebody else's agenda. Because he's a nobody would a nobody country. His decisions now are forcing people to be killed. He's

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playing with him down and Tierra says he's been bombing hospitals. We all know that Israel is bombing hospitals every single day and

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guys, don't go there don't go to the fact is eternity

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just leave them

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here at home. I mean,

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let's discuss the bombing of the hospitals, right? Because what America did it, our claim was simple, that they weren't being used as hospitals anymore. The fighters were using them to hide. And what I find interesting is that that's exactly what Putin said, well, the hospital was bombed.

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Both can be wrong at the same time it was

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bombed yesterday supposedly has not been used in years. So I'm

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here from Russia, is that the the hospitals that have been bombed had been used as harbors for the fighters heart you know safety for the for the fight. What about the

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why do we but yeah. I'm just telling information in America. Let me speak please. We got the information in America, because that's exactly what the press wants us to get. And here's the thing, guys, here's the thing guys, delivered to us. Exactly. In Afghanistan. Remember when we killed those operatives, but we killed a whole fucking family? Okay, we killed a family of what 10 or 12 with a whole bunch of kids that was just swept under the rug like was nothing Oh, we made a mistake. No, we didn't make a mistake. Yeah, we did make a mistake. But guess what, whether you whether you look at it like that, they'll be brought in a whole bunch of Afghans. It's sort of like, you know, there's, there's no thought there's no rhyme or reason about what Biden does. So you got all these people that are trying to get on a on a plane, and they're like, look, we rescued all these people. There was no pre pre planning for any of that a whole bunch of people just jumped out of plane and then they talk about how they're rescuing people, and then we leave all these people behind. How about all those people behind? How about that? You know, so like, let's stop talking about like, I love this country. And I'm just gonna say that you can love a country.

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What about all the people we leave behind right here in America? Millions?

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Oh, my God, year after year 100,000. La, are homeless. And guess what? You know, all of those people that that came over the border 100,000 people died of overdoses. That's that's died. Do you know how many people are on drugs? Because we allow the cartels and everything to flow right over that border. But you guys are all feeling like, oh my gosh, we have to let everybody come in because they're all such good people. The naivete of that is incredible to me.

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Well, here. He is incredible. Well, here at home. Our government is spending their time like in Texas right now. Do you want to break this story is crazy. It's crazy. This is what we deal with here in America. Okay, guys, this is just a Texas judge blocks the state from investigating parents of transgender youth. This is what we deal with in this country. We can't even figure out whether we can talk about gay, lesbian, transgender, we can get that shit right over here. And what are we doing? Putting our nose all the way across the world can't feed our people can't educate our kids. Our healthcare system sucks. Can't even get good Healthcare for the individuals that live your millions of people without housing. Go to California watch all the homeless people in Beverly Hills next toward Beverly Hills. And because our government, you want to you want to just share that link

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I'm putting up there right now.

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What does it really even say, guys?

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I'm putting up there right now, Jonathan. This is what

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our governors and our senators are dealing with every day. And if we can't figure this out, how the hell are we going to figure out what Putin is doing to know about

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raising this? Read the law. Can I take

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one second? Miss Miss, please, please Miss Grant here. What are you saying? What are you saying to grant

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I'm asking is I'm not sure why you're raising this. This is what the law says. The Texas law says that anyone who gives what they call gender affirming care to a child, and they define it as 18 and under or under 18, which is pretty old for most people can be if it's a parent, this is called this for parents. Anybody who encourages anything like this will be subjected to life imprisonment. Tier one, you're missing the whole one. My fast, Mary. Oh,

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you're missing the Harry, stop.

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I'm not Mary, I am not. Unfortunately,

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you get emotional right here because you have you have

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this is personal to me and I have

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read. But but but nobody wants to listen to you when you start screaming like that.

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Okay, well, man, I'm trying to stop. I'm trying to land my plane grant, I assume you think that's okay, if I do that? So here's the thing. We might be asking, Why the hell is the Texas Legislature passing such a law? Why are they saying parents can be put into jail for life? If they help their kids with an issue at the age of 17? Can we discuss maybe that as opposed to or maybe not even discussed it at all? I'm not sure why you're raising it, it is a distraction, tell

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you exactly why he's raising it. And you're missing the whole point. What he's saying and it is it is a dangerous road to go down and I give him a lot of credit for doing it. What he's saying is, is that our country is focused on pronouns and focus on this type of stuff and guys, you know, that are swimming as girls and then everybody gets, you know, angry. I was I was a I was a NCAA athlete in tennis, and if that had happened to me, I gotta tell you at a man was with a male but again, that's not even the point. The point is, is that that's not the point. The point is, is that's a distraction to the fact that we've got all of these superpowers who are behaving like fucking superpowers and they are gathering everything they need to do they are strategizing everything they need to do while we're talking about pronouns and that's what Grant was talking about.

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They married once I get once I get merit merit Well,

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let me ask him why why why is Texas always right? I'm supposed to be supposedly right on is with abortion. With transgender Why is Texas always no no.

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Are you kidding when the when the abortion thing came from Texas I'm like, What the fuck is going on? Because that I always voted Democrat when I was younger, because I 1,000% believe in the right choice. I had a transgender assistant executive assistant for two years she was the best I ever had. And then she moved out of state like so that from that perspective, but what I'm saying is, is that that we are living in a world that's creating so many distractions while the other parts of the world are just just going gangbusters on wanting to be like the the rulers of the world. And I think that that's what I I think

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why why Texas

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toys and Jonathan The point is okay, these countries that are developing themselves today okay are not spending their time and energy on these issues. We on the other hand, try to handle every issue on this planet this goes back to what C rock was saying. Okay, he's like a you know, know your neighbors. But there is a point where you get so scattered that you get become so scattered and you use all your resources around the planet that you no longer have any strength or power

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my my family's from

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bring 111111 at a time one at a time. mute your mic brother. mute your mic, the guy who was going first before you jumped in go ahead bro. The guys go first. You go.

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So my family's from the area and and and I I understand the American perspective because I'm in Canada but of course I have family over there. And we have big oceans right we got the Pacific on the left side. We got the

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beacon bro, where are you? Where are you? Hello what country you're talking about what topic talking about?

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Well, I thought this room's about Ukraine. Yeah, no, no,

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that's what I thought I thought you come back over here. You got to stay to stay with the flow bro. You know what flow is?

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Grantees Canadian? Yeah go easy on the reins Canadian.

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You gotta flow okay. transgender topics okay. Yeah,

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no Well, I I'll tie this in to everything there so yeah yes your perspective is a very American centric or Canadian North American centric let's say that because I'm here in Canada as well um but when I hear all these you know conspiracy theories or about okay so Bio Labs I'll tell you about the man

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we might have to come back to you for a second brother cuz I think you gotta you gotta just get get your thoughts together. No, because he's going to Ukraine just gotta get your thoughts together. Just Just look at the article of top click on it. And I'll come back to you like three minutes. Okay.

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Man, I'm telling you that strange

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looking I was looking at the the possibility World War Three their title of the room. That's what I was addressing

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our Gotcha. Hey, but I'll tell you what is your name? pootie.

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Your name is Rudy. No, my name is Matt. Jerry.

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Oh, no, because somebody's got a pool. Yes. Okay. See podium. Okay, pull you going through all this. I thought that was pretty because the mic is unmuted and his mic is shaking his fingers shaking. I thought that's who's talking. That's why you guys gonna mute your mic. Thank you, Matt. My bad bro. Yeah, but But Jonathan. Jonathan. Jonathan. Jonathan, you made a good point about Texas, Jonathan. When you say why they always got to break all these big things? I don't know, Jonathan. I don't know. Jonathan.

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Once again, what I'm what I see is that you guys are and He's conservative states like Texas and Florida. It's like everything has to be a battle. And so that just because someone takes it up, I guess a governor take it up on a state legislator to take it up doesn't mean it's right. And you know, and everything's coming out of these these two states. Why? You know, why Texas all the damn time? Why Florida all the goddamn time that that is doing this that's fighting for, you know? Why do I need them to fight for the soul of our country?

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You know, I really want to know, Mary, I'm gonna keep it real. I didn't want to say no, but Mary, you were about to say something a minute ago about when you play tennis. And he and you stopped. Why is it so delicate? That if we if you would have continued on you stop because, you

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know, I didn't know Jerry? She was fluid.

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That's why No, I wasn't No, I wasn't being because it was being political.

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No, no, not political, gray, gray. It just seems like what I

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was saying is like, I started to go down that path, like, what characters like she wanted to go and talk about the law. And my point was, is that that's not what I wasn't

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talking about that.

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She was starting to relive her college days. And when she was all fluid, she's fluid. She's very fluid. It was fluid. No, you were saying and that now, now? Maybe not so much. And then she's like, and so she was going down a different road and she pulled herself back in and unlike Ciara, by the way Tierra it's impossible to pull her back from her indulgence in her intelligence and what she's able to read.

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I think, though, that the point

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that I make, thank you for saying I'm intelligent grant, I so appreciate your compliments.

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No, but you you but you, you don't take disparate data and bring it all together. Not

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though, I thought you were saying so critical. Thought you're saying

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I was gonna say I did. Okay, so I played tennis. And one of my daughters is also NCAA volleyball champion, all three of my kids played a really competitive sports, I've worked daughters and one, one son. So if, in my father and I were having this discussion the other day, and he's like, I gotta tell you, if that ever happened, because I know how many like, my kids played sports four to five hours a day, and then literally every single weekend, and they're, you know, they're, they're all grown up now. But Had that been me, like my dad said, if that had been you, I swear to God, I would have killed somebody. You know, he's like, because we put so much time in, you know, Title Nine was something that was created for women's sports, women's sports, and now you've got like, all of these men, their biological men and I still to this day, I can't even possibly understand why you would allow a buyout like how, like, I feel like there's this weird veil like there's this this drug or this pill that people have taken to completely like let go of, of, of logic. Um, because, you know, there there are male weightlifters in categories with female weightlifters that are that are now trans swimmers. I mean, he's like, gets out, I'm sorry, she gets out of the pool and just sits and waits for the rest of them to finish is broken every single record. So if you you know, so the thing is, is Title Nine was created to respect and to create women's sports to make sure that money was being spent on women's sports to make sure that like we had, you know, we had sports for ourselves. And now if if a male violence logical body that identifies as a female is able to come in the idea that people find that like or think that that's bad. And here's the thing, you know, why are we continuing those now?

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They say that males dominate female sports.

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I don't know, Martina Martina Navratilova, who is like one of my heroes, um, you know, tennis from the past. Yeah. And she's gay. She was ousted from the community, because of what she said, by saying that this is not fair for women, you know, to have my illogical men playing. And I was actually in a room like six months ago, and I was absolutely obliterated when I made that comment. And I'm like, if you play sports, like, if you don't play sports, you I don't think you have enough, you can have an opinion. But I'm not going to listen to your opinion. Because if you play sports, and you put that that five hours, six hours in, I used to play eight hours a day, you put that time in, and then all of a sudden somebody comes in that it's just it's so it's like, on the idea of allowing minority to dominate and harm the majority, the smallest minority is affecting the majority. So that for me, I just don't get it. I can totally

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wait. That's a long way. That's a long, long storytelling to just simply say, And, Mary, you're probably walking on eggshells the whole time. You're saying this, because you're terrified that somebody is gonna be like, Oh, she's homophobic. She's anti gay.

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Me. Okay. You think she's been? You think she's now? No, no, no, I don't think that but I want you to know what,

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you can't you know what you can't to have my I have my senior team of my senior team. Three of them are gay, two lesbians that both have children that are like you, I don't care who you are. You could be black or purple, gay trans.

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Take an offer. She's Lyndon Johnson. I'm done. With this second, one second, I want to hear from her one second, I want to hear from the girl that said that. What do you mean when you say does that make her an authority said before

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that if you're not an athlete, you shouldn't be speaking on it. And she speaks on a whole lot of things. So my question is, you're talking about you have two employees or coworkers or whatever, that are gay or transgender? And you're speaking on it? Does that make you an authority because you know, someone that's in that position?

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No, I said that the closest person to me, which is your executive assistant, if you have one is was transgender for two years, and then she moved away, and she was the best assistant I've ever had. So and a multiple, not two of my team are gay. Seven of my team are gay. I've 37 people that work for me. And they're almost if I were if I was discriminating, it'd be against men, because I have two men that work for me. So okay,

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thank you, man. Oh, yeah. Once I brought the guy who said, Jerry, may I go ahead to God, he

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said, Jerry, man, Jerry, this is Todd. And before the guy said, Jerry, may I Yeah, Jerry, this is Todd. And I wanted to say thanks again. I did want to clear up one thing. Yes, I am the weed man, weed man can have the name. But I've been weed man since 96 in LA. But here I wanted to get what Mary was saying. Because it's a complex topic, meaning this. Yeah, I hate to hear that your dad said that about I would kill somebody because wait till you see 500 years in the future. 1000 years in the future, there's going to be a lot of different especially even if you talk with the younger generation now under 25, under under 30. People, they have a lot of different feelings about love about in about transgender and how they feel on the inside and wanting to come out. And if there were

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my dad, if I compete, I understand.

Unknown Speaker:

We don't want we absolutely don't want somebody that is born a male to and then is transgender, and then can harm a female say physically. So we there's something that needs to be done there. Absolutely. But the point is, if you had seven people on your staff that weren't gay, but were transgender, then Is that enough for allow them to compete. My point is, you're going to see in the future, yeah, you're not going to be able you're it's going to be something in right now is a time we're evolving, and it's real sensitive. It's a sensitive time, this is happening right now in front of our eyes. And when they were saying, Yeah, we're getting all sidetracked. No, we're not sidetracked about pronouns. Absolutely not. This is just people saying, I want to be known as this and I want to be heard as this this is coming from individuals, and then they multiply because there's that many of them. But that has to be has to be addressed. I appreciate your perspective. But yeah, I was gonna say yeah, a lot of people are gonna hate the future because you can't stop what's going to happen. There's going to be many more transgender, and it's going to be fantastic. I want people to be who they are. I'm done.

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But I got a question. I got a question. I'm gonna pivot one sec. I got a question. I got a question for the stage because I don't know right now are Chen transgender men allowed to participate in female sports? I don't know are they? Yeah they are. Wow,

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they are they're winning records there

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wait one second one second talking. I know I know to me I appreciate that bro. I didn't know that that's new news to me and

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then transgender men or transgender women

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I just said Can transgender men I'm sorry I'm sorry. I mean, women yeah you know I mean you know I mean cuz yeah when they turn into a woman that's what I mean or not when he turned to a woman would ever say

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Jerry Jerry yes the answer again changed

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you could you could change your your biological organs like you know your penis and all that but you can't change your muscle mass

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can a man and can a man that identifies himself as a woman. Okay, yeah, can a man let's make this simple. Can a man that identifies himself as a woman compete in female sports? Wow.

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What was the UFC fight? What was the UFC event where someone that was transgender, like broke the face of a woman killed? ballin, Fox. Yeah, he almost killed that woman. It's crazy.

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I watch the UFC all the time.

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He cracked her head like or excuse me, my apology, she cracked our headlines, but she's transgender. And and some somebodies point, you know that muscle mass? That is not an overnight no one estrogen pill, you know,

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I don't got to be delicate about it. That's not fair. That's not fair. If

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McGregor's, right, Jerry.

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Jerry, when you say that's not fair, that's not fair. According to you, you can't make a blanket statement like that. Now, I personally don't agree with it. Okay,

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but how come I can't make a blanket statement like that? How come I can't what's gonna happen? I'm gonna get I'm gonna get I don't get it. I can't make a blanket statement. It's not fair. A man should not be in a sport, where he's competing as a woman, he has too much of an advantage.

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And they're breaking records like crazy. And they're breaking records. And they're getting the title as you know, as that which is, I mean, I guess but, I mean, does it really what was the point we women were not like welcome and male and male sports. But now

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let me ask the women like, the women, women and women on the stage, women on the stage, how about a poll? I'm gonna do a poll, how many women I'm speaking to the women, how many women feel okay, with men, you know, having to identify themselves as woman and able to compete. And you got to, you got to the sport. I'm going to open this the opening hand raising one second is off. I'm gonna open it in right now. Raise your hand if you disagree with it. If you disagree with it, raise your hand. If you disagree with racism,

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you kind of get two things you said is it okay? And then you said no, no, no, no.

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He said, disagree. If you disagree with trends, participate in women's sports. Raise your hands. There. Yo,

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you got up to 57 I got lucky. Okay. I don't know. Okay. Anybody else? Oh, 64. Okay.

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Yep, let's do it. Now let's reset Jerry because you got to do the opposite. You can

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reset. I'm going to reset his arm now. Okay, now you you said how you want to say Jonathan cuz I'm not up on all this. You said How you gonna say?

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Okay, so if you guys if you guys don't see a problem with men participating in women's sports at trans give me I'm so sorry. trans gender, people participating and women's sport. Raise your hand.

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Let's go. 321 is open to everyone go.

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If you guys do not have a problem with trans women participating in female sports. Regionals, raise your hands. Wow, is that many highs? Wow.

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I guess that statement I did make was okay.

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Yeah. Guys, one second. Can spy people do you guys? We're gonna invite you guys up to the stage. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna invite you guys up to stage and if you are one of the people that agree with it, you don't have to come up. You don't want to but I like for you guys to come up and just well put your position out because once again, we're here to debate the news. And we want to know that side of it because I'm pretty liberal. You know, and I just, you know, there's some things that I you know, I

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and I have one second job.

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I had to cut off chat, everybody the chat is off because it's glitching the app so no chat, you're gonna have to come to the stage if you want to chat. Okay, so just to be any people that came to the stage one moment, any people that came to the stage that has no problem do I feel this? Okay, do you guys want to unlike and speak to it? Is there anyone on stage that are anyone on stage that doesn't have a problem? Please feel free

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didn't come up to

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Jonathan I, let's say

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this if we're gonna include and what are we going to say about doping? Right. So this is about testosterone levels. This is about androgen

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doping. No Dr. Catherine not doping right now. I'm not, but I'm not I'm not.

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I think she's alluding to how the hormones play. Yeah.

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Illegal Jared doping is illegal hormones.

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I understand. I understand that. But I want

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a women's jury when a woman has a valid point, why shut him down? Jerry,

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I fully understand what she meant about. I fully understand what she meant about doping. But I was trying to talk about transgender for a moment just wanted to shoot a woman down but that's fine. You know? Yes. I'm missing the point. She's missing the point. Jerry, can I say

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that make testosterone is gonna have a competitive advantage to a woman who has lower levels of testosterone. So having them compare themselves? It's similar to a woman who's doping and being called out for doping?

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No, because you're assuming that all women do that. That's not

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the you know, what we're trying to say is simple. It's like, it's like Jerry or Grant Cardone, or someone like myself, that's played sports, our whole life waking up one day saying, You know what, I'm a woman today, I'm going to put on a wig and tell everyone I'm transgender and start the process. And I'm gonna go compete in all these sports, and I'm going to become first place and all these sports because I know these women have no competitive. That's what they're doing.

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That's, that's not fair. That's not fair.

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And you know what, Terry? One of the men

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I'm sure just as why the United States of America is fucking derailed. Thank you. We spend our time and energy on this rather than building a great nation great schools, great education, getting health care getting food to people, man. It's crazy guys

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one second one second everybody going because,

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well, you know, what's crazy is um, one of the one of the one of the biggest, you know, incidences of that happening where a transgender woman a man that became a woman one and set a precedent? Well, when they looked at the history that was also somebody that constantly lost, you know, to weed man's point that was also somebody that constantly lost when they were you know, competing against their their biological exactly so and when you look at the record of many transgender women in the in the sports arena, absolutely positively not saying that's why they became transgender. I don't know their minds. However, it you know, it kind of leans to that side, when you're looking at their track record and realizing well, you were you know, you were a beta you were you were kind of like the runt of the litter when you're racing against men. Now you move over to women, and you smoking them by you know, 15 seconds. I wonder why. So I just wanted to pose that other perspective as well. You know,

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if we're gonna do transgender sports, why don't we create a whole league for

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it? That would that would make sense that would actually make sense. That would make sense.

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And I bet I bet that I bet there's somebody think you're wrong for thinking like that. TC was I think you're wrong for things like that.

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TC, that's why I got to meet your TC. TC. That's why you keep your mic muted, bro. Keep your mic muted. That won't happen again. No, it wasn't okay. Great. Great.

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It's simple. It's simple. You give them their own lanes. You give them their own. Everybody wins.

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Hey, bro, come on. Wait, wait wait, what do you what do you say? You must

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know Yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, don't use that word again on the stage bro. Do not use that word on the stage. One second one second one second one second. We're not gonna die some guy apologize for you guys and Jared Can you see me and stuff? Soccer ban him man? Because

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Jonathan here's what Jonathan is gonna do now he's gonna turn into Savior John.

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I don't want to save your grant.

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This whole topic up you start the room up. This guy says that and now you're gonna act like you're not everybody. But

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hold on one second. One second one second, bro. Grant what happened? There was I just told him not to use that language. That's a very offensive word. That's like saying the N word a sword. Okay, are the M word. Okay? So, you know doing I actually had to do it. And he and his response was fpu. And he said over and over again, which shows that he has no written he has no I guess cared about authority or the rules of this room at all. Okay, and that's not something we all know. We want to

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And without using that word Wow, they would fall in line with the transgender league though for that and to answer that though straight up. No, that would be their lane.

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TC you gotta keep your mic muted, bro. Seriously it must be a glitch because I was about this. It's okay. It's okay. We man.

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We should let them create their own lane and then you know everybody wins and shit we can all probably spectate and watch it on TV, and they can make hundreds of millions of dollars to right. I'm going to watch that shit.

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Anyway, if anybody if anybody think that's fair in any form or fashion, I don't get it. I just don't. It seems like you're it seems like you got cheating ways in yourself if you think that's not you know, we man let's bro come on, bro. Just imagine you got this little daughter. You've been working hard. Taking her to a you practice. She's doing her stuff. She's stretching. She's putting it in. There's somebody coming in doing, you have to work. You're at a disadvantage from the gate. You're at a disadvantage. That is not fair. I can't I can't even see the the Athletic Commission allowing that. Can I speak Jake?

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Can I? How did we get here? Yeah. How

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do we like who thought that was like a logical?

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And once I, once I

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can? Can I speak? Please?

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Wait, wait. One second, one second. One second. I'm gonna let you speak. But I definitely want to go in the direction of how do we go like that? I want to hear that side. But quick one, I have to be quick on it.

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So I definitely agree with you. Most recently, the army changed their PT test. And it went to gender neutral. So that means my 10 Push ups that I score on a PT scale, you can go blow me out the water, you know, because our bodies are set up different. And I'm so glad that they changed it because they were getting a bunch of complaints that they went gender neutral because our bodies just aren't built the same. So I definitely agree with you.

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Yeah, I mean, and i Whoever thinks this is sensitive anyway, anybody else want to jump in? Who

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is a woman? A woman? That's me saying Can she go? That's

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one. My name is Mei Gladney, just to add Jerry, you are absolutely right. It is not fair. And I want to add on top of that, in California and in Virginia and I do not know somewhere else in the public schools. For children. They ask them they are very young and they asked them Do you want to keep you are a female or a male? Like you are Jane maybe you're going to be gone. So my friend. She has three kids when she heard this because this was the too much of freedom. It to endlich this is like agnostic things. It's against religion against God. Because husband and wife can match men and men and women they get married but but I respect if they are gay and the government allow it and it's legal. So we cannot we have to shut up and respect that. My friend, she put her kids homeschooling and she's not sending the kids to school. Because conservative they have to raise their kids the way they want. The government are since this is like a from early stage. They want this is agenda that this is a corruption This is how countries goes down the drain. And that is not right. So we respect whatever the Supreme Court but but that is not everything is right.

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Exactly. I like that hold

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on. Jerry may sing she she she'll respect gay people because the Supreme Court says they have rights to be married and stuff. But if the government didn't say that boy, she sure wouldn't have to respect that. Is that right man?

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is deeper than that.

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I have coworkers and I love them because they are not a threat as a man like he's gay. I love him. I love him dearly. And maybe maybe it's something that it can be treated as I have one of

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those. Oh,

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry. In my country and in my

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What do you mean it would be treated that what does that mean?

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It means it that person can marry a woman can if there is like psychology thing.

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She's she's referring to gender

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recursion conversion therapy is what she's talking about. Exactly. Horrible. Horrible, but

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I'm I'm totally against it. I'm totally Yeah. So that's why we bought conversion therapy conversion therapy. What does that when you take a guy, gay kid and forced on they try to be straight

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through brainwashing

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me it works believe me sometimes Yeah, but it's it's not honoring

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sometimes torture work what you want out of somebody

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that he married is he is gay but he married because of the society and you know impact that so he married a woman and he is happily but you can see like his the attitude the way he can be transgender he can be. But there is restriction because of the society. It's a different than here if he was living in America, he like this is the tool much freedom, he can be a woman. And for me, I don't care if that's fine. Each one is responsible for himself. But I'm telling you, he married a woman because of the society the to the impact, it's very strongly. It's a tight relationship with the relative that he cannot practice. Right. Yeah. So I'm telling you the truth, I think,

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a valid argument, Jonathan, I mean, think we got it here.

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Bro, I got this, bro. I got this. I know she got a valid argument. But I got this. I got this question. Yeah.

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Let me get next.

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Yeah, I just wanted to ask a question. Right. I just heard you guys say that. You know, you're against gender conversion therapy? Right? Um, my question is, according to the article, they're saying that they want to charge people with child abuse, if they do gender confirming surgery, right? Is that sort of the same thing? I'm not really sure if I know exactly what age they are children, that they're given them gender affirming surgery, if they're not allowed to make decisions, like buying cigarettes, buying alcohol joining the military, or any of these other decisions, what age are they able to make the decision to change their gender?

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First of all, it's a under 18. So it's not really that young in many cases. And secondly, it's gender affirming care. It's not surgery per se. So that would include any hormone treatments and possibly even psychiatric care. I don't know. I don't know the I'm not sure how they're gonna interpret it. Okay, so it's it's pretty extreme. Thanks.

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Let me wait one second. Let me ask a question. What do y'all think about about this? I don't know if this is inappropriate to ask this. But let's say if someone has made the transfer, or the you know, became a transgender, do you feel they should be required to tell somebody you like, let's say you meet you meet a guy? I mean, do you think they should be required to tell him? Yes, hell yeah. I was scared to ask that question. I was shaking in my boots. Okay. Okay. So it's not how are you going to enforce it? But I think that can cause a lot of cool. Yeah.

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It has caused a lot of happens. A lot of incidences

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in Jamaica, that happens a lot. And when people find out they'll kill the woman, when they find out what's really a man, that happens a lot.

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I don't want to I don't want to, I don't want to speak on that. But I think that will get a lot of people in trouble. And I will get a lot of people in trouble. You know, so yeah.

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Well, technically, I mean, it's a HIPAA violation. Right. You'd be putting them in a position to divulge their medical history. And a mandatory No, no, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me hate to hold on a second. Let me just Yes. And that's an that's an I'm totally in agreement with that. You should. I mean, if you are a transgender woman, you're dating a man, that person has no idea. You don't have the right to put them in that that situation. However, we've seen incidences where people have done that and it's resulted in them being killed. So at the same time, there's also a fear that well, what if I tell them early and I end up killed anyway, as far as HIPAA it actually, is HIPAA because, number one, HIPAA has to do with medical history. And if I have to divulge that my medical history entails transgender reassignment surgery or medical, that is putting somebody in a position where they have to divulge that that's not an opinion. I actually have a medical background. And I actually literally am still in that space, so I'm fine with dying on that hill. However, I think that it's it wouldn't to make that much mandatory I mean, that ends up encroaching on so many. How's that different from forcing someone to divulge whether or not they're vaccinated before entering the store? You know what I mean?

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I'm HIPAA relates,

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I'm fine, I'm fine with with my assertion. Thank you.

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I understand that relates to a

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hospital, you're literally wrong to a hospital, or literally wrong. here

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refers to a doctor or a hospital divulging information about a patient,

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forcing someone forcing someone to devote their own also violates an aspect of HIPAA. Thank you. Because it's mandatory. What do you think mandatory means? What do you think mandatory means when the conversation was whether or not it would be a law? That was the conversation?

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But can I hear what it means? Is that an American

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law that basically says that a health care provider cannot give information out to a third party about it? Okay, thank you.

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That's all it's about, like it has nothing to it can only be enforced by the hospital and their employers like you.

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You have to disclose their HIV.

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Exactly. That's what I'm saying. And if it's not required, I'm gonna say this. I think it should be a law passed that is required. I think it's it should be a law passed as required.

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But how do you how do you enforce it? Jerry,

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how do you enforce it? Jerry,

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you probably can't, but at least you have the opportunity to or the option to get somebody in trouble. I don't know how you can enforce

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it would probably be a civil civil case. Wouldn't you get litigated?

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Like a civil case right or like a fine no issue be criminal criminal

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violation of the law if the law tells you to actually disclose it that that means that it can be a violation of the law.

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No, no all these rights that they're starting to make How come you can't make a right make rights and the other the other direction? It's not fair to a man to meet his new beautiful queen? And it turns out she's really a king. Yeah.

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Other than real women, yo, some of them so man. They're weavers. What am I doing?

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Y'all are keeping it real though. Y'all being polite. Y'all just not keeping it real.

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Jay, I will be upset as much as I am. That statement Yeah, at that thing. Oh, by the way.

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There you go. Well, well, what I'm saying is, you know what, I once again, I respect people's rights, but yeah, that I think you can't trick someone okay? Because you have to respect others rights as well. So that's all I'm saying. I respect your rights as long as it doesn't trample other people right. So yeah, if you're if you're out there fooling people, and you know that that's not what they're into, you know, then that and then don't later on say, Oh, you must have been into it because you did it. You know, I said that right. There was like, I've heard people like really, like go off, especially in Jamaica. Like she said, they really go off on that in Jamaica,

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they really do what they do in Nigeria,

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when they disappear you bro like you just won't be seen. And I mean, this is not even a joke. There's so many countries, there's parts of it. No, no. I mean, I mean, I

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gotta say I don't want anybody to think that we're speaking like against because I'm awful you know for rights whatever you want to do you do but I just think is I think it's other people's rights to get violated accidentally. Well, you guys exactly.

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That's

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like a scam Jerry.

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Jerry, can I answer the question you asked earlier? How do we Yeah, I got I gotta I gotta answer that as well here. What Yeah, we got here through the colleges because a lot of these college professors they they believe in Cultural Marxism and and and they've always had this battle to take down the Western capitalism. And the way you do that, like the lady just said, the way you destroy a country from within you do it from within you turn everything upside down.

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I think I think part of it. I think I think also we got here from fear. Too many people are scared to really stand up and say what they really feel so they go along for the ride for the popular version of what everybody else wants, right? They they don't want to be ousted they don't lose their job. So Oh, no, you can't say this. You can't say that. But when you're in your living room, you say what you really want to say or your great room you say what you really want to say? Stop being afraid to say what you want to say people

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don't say that you're transphobic if you see these statements that chance now, they gonna say you transphobic so

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if I was on TV, what I'll be canceled right now, if I was on TV, would I be canceled?

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Maybe It depends on depends on the station you're in. It depends on the station

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your freedom of speech right? Freedom is

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selective so this is Christian Christian please

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hold on Oh, this is this is why so many people in this country are being left.

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Transgender people are brave fan. Can you imagine how how brave you must be to say listen, I'm gonna be who I want to be and you guys can make fun of safe Bruce Jenner who's Caitlyn Jenner now, you know the guy was one

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brave, brave, brave, brave is going through the war brave Brave is

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really are from within. Against you know Todd, you're a man right? Are you brave for being the man that you are?

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Listen, what I'm saying is I didn't make any changes. I'm saying it's brave to go ahead and make that tough change when you know, you know what's within you. I

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disagree. I disagree. You disagree that it's brave for some if somebody is brave to go to the war is brave to go kick somebody out of the police officer trying to save somebody on fire by

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the way you can be brave many ways are to fear Ukrainian fighting against

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Exactly. One second, one second pumping you trying to say something?

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I was gonna stick my chest out and say I respectfully disagree with Todd. It's not a matter of being brave. If I say I'm an alien, I believe I'm an alien like, bucks. Apart from

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being black, like what?

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Exactly, but that's my point. Everybody want to be so perfectly correct with the things that they say in regards to certain things and it just doesn't make any sense. There's no bravery and being who you want to be.

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Period. What? Bravery?

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What are your thoughts on that? Mary?

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We know, when we stand for something that doesn't mean that we're coming against something else to take a stand. Exactly. And I understand it.

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Mary, Mary, do you think they're just being yourself?

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I think it's incredibly brave. Nobody, nobody that's gay or trans? That there's other like, like I said, The only issue I have, like love him everyone a love like whatever. Because love is a you know, it's not a it's it's an incredible and amazing thing if you can find it. But but you know, I don't know a single person and I know a ton like so many. You know, then people go oh, I saw some of the back. Oh, because she knows gay people like that. No, you know what? I know so many I'm in the hair business. Right? So of course I know a lot. And there's never been a coming out party that's been positive. What they have to do is is very very brave.

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That's not all of them. No married that's not

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positive Oh, coming out party.

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Have you got to get married have her flowers, man because marriage checks out on everything. And she shows compassion. Everybody

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sticks their chest out. So everybody

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she needs to show going to an all white school when you're black is brave. Like, come on, man.

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Do you think that's the reason why can I just say Can I just say this is gonna come across? What Why is it always come back to race?

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Like because some of us don't have another option? Yeah,

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but wouldn't wouldn't. Wouldn't it be great?

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No one ain't given us flowers. What

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if your parents are homophobic? What

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I agree with that lady, though, is a white man is a white man. I hear I hear the transgender card getting more than blacks and Hispanics. Excuse me. What's your mic?

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you mute your mic broke. Grant

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111 third of the population doesn't get the attention and energies and the laws and the resources it needs. While we put our attention on special situations, which if that's your situation, that's the one you're going to be most interested in. And this is why this country continues to deteriorate because we try to fight in everybody's little, little, little thing that they're interested in.

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Yeah, I fight for all the underdogs grants. Yeah, you're right. I fight for every last wanqi Grant.

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Well, yeah, we don't do much for any of them. Cuz no one's war.

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I never said you fight.

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So as a minority in a group, I'm pro Putin. So you fight for me to write

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Okay, okay. Okay, everybody.

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In this case, in this case, based on what you said you would be fighting for Putin, because he's the minority in the situation.

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You guys got ahead of me there.

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So this is Christian now. I just wanted to answer the question a few minutes ago, a little while ago, when you were asking how did we get here? We got here because of the fact that gender dysphoria was redefined by the American Psychiatric Association. That was in 2013. When they literally went into the Diagnostic and Statistical mental Manual of Mental Disorders.

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Oh, yeah. This man knows some stuff right here.

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What they redefine what a what a gender disorder actually is. And so shortly after the name, that's when you had a push in the in the courts to legalize gay marriage. And then we got to Obergefell in 2015. And then shortly after that, literally, in the same year, the fall, the late fall of that same year, that's when the, the International Olympic Committee came together. And they decided to change their stances on transgenders, being involved in sports. And then we saw all these other event advancements, you know, that we've seen from 2015, up to 2022, there was a very strong push for everything LGBTQ, whether it was whether it was pushing it in schools, K through 12, whether it was men and women's sports, whether it was going it, whether it was the masterpiece cake shop, where you have people, you know, finding certain businesses that they think that they could create a controversy over and then open up a lawsuit, target that person repeatedly over and over. We, this has been happening for the past set. It's been happening for decades. But the push did not. It didn't happen until they went to the Supreme Court, or and when I say they, I'm talking about the LGBTQ political activists, they went to the Supreme Court, and they created additional equal protection, or due process rights for the LGBTQ, and that gave them everything that they needed to push that political agenda as far as they can. And now what we're seeing in Texas, and other states, is you're starting to see not only appearance begin to speak up and say, you know, this is a problem, I'm not okay with this, you're starting to see the citizens in the states press upon their elected officials, to to take to take a stronger stance against many of these things. And and and you brought up a point during when you said that, well, if this starts to if all of this activism that we see to give a certain folks additional rights, if it begins to affect the rights of other people, then that's when the problem is created. So that's where we are right now is that now we're trying to figure out how we're going to restore or uphold the rights of all citizens. Now that the LGBTQ has been carved out this new set of rights from the Supreme Court. Thank you.

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No, I don't think you got to add to that. I think he I think he did a very good job. Dr. copelan is in the building. Yeah, what is good? Go ahead. You can you can jump in.

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I want you that didn't open. I want you to talk about that gender. What is the confirmation agenda? What is it when a person therapy, conversion therapy? Yeah, so

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So what I wanted to say was that somebody earlier said, if I want to be an alien, I can be an alien. And I thought it was a very weird comment to make. And I'll tell you why. You know, talking about the science of gender I hate to burst your bubble. But gender is not a binary thing. I hate to be the one to break it to you, right? It's not right. Every male in here every month

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I misunderstood what she said. She she she she wasn't saying it the way you're saying it. She wasn't she she was

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fair enough. Maybe the point I'm making is that there are people in here that I believe think that gender is binary, and it's not.

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It wasn't even it wasn't even in that lane. It was even in a lane. You know, No, no, no. Right. Your mic. mute your mic. Bro. I'm just saying when you said she made a statement about UFO use, she was using a completely different context than what you're saying they're born that way, because that's what you're about to say, right? They're born that way. Right? That's what you're

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saying. Right? Let me let me land man, you you were about to say I'm proud of land.

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Grant the point I was just making sure. I'll just make sure he's on the right flight. That's all.

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That's fine. I'm just saying to the general point, right? Gender is not binary. Every male in this room had a females brain until about four months in utero when you start to produce testosterone yourself. Everybody, right? So if you miss that cue, right, if you miss it, it's missed. The only thing that makes your brain differ from a female's brain is testosterone that you get that you produce from yourself. So for people say, Well, you know, oh, yeah, born that way. No, no, no, no, you could be a male with an X, Y chromosome, Mr. Q of testosterone, be walking around here six foot eight with a penis and have the feet and have a female's brain. That's reality. They don't

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have to watch. What's your point? Dr. copelan. We're not well. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who said? Who said who said we're believing him who said that? At when? Why do you feel we're believing Dr. copelan? Edwin? Oh, I

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never said sorry. But if you're 60, you clearly have testosterone. So that's spicy.

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Just now? Yeah, right. Yeah.

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100%.

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Copeland Copeland tried to do this during COVID. He assumes he's the only one that knows anything about anything.

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Why would Debbie know about biology? Describe her background and Debbie, Debbie know what's wrong with you, Pete.

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So like I was saying you have two versions of testosterone. You have a version that you express as a baby. And then you have another version that you express as an adult. They're, they're two separate cues. So you didn't know that because you don't understand biology. Like I said, the first now I

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definitely do. On make your point.

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Thank you very much. So a person that's six foot eight, like I said, can miss the first cue, go through puberty at 13 be six foot eight and have a female's brain. Like I said the first time. That's not debatable.

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And that's why conversion therapy is like a torture you guys are it's like you're not an evil person. But we still are gonna change who you are. But you

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guys are completely disregarding the fact that the six foot eight guy didn't start as a woman. Thank you is not a woman. And so that's his choice. Now he wants to go change. And Bo B go back to this other brain bullshit. news guys. He wants to go back and do that. Let me just finish I didn't interrupt. He wants to go back and go flip things. Okay. What does that have to do with the United States spending time and energy on this when majorities of people in this country in the hundreds of millions are being neglected? unresearched, homeless without home like it's crazy. What we're doing in this country is

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Wait one second what? Dr. copelan? But I gotta say it's one thing for 20 seconds then we give it to you. No, no, no, no, don't apologize. Okay, well watch

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that Jerry just just like try to win votes in a room like he's so fair with everybody

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to go to his room to go to his room to go to his room.

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Room and then you find out. Oh,

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God, you gotta hop off.

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Dogs facts Dr. Ko Bloodaxe. Your doctor COVID You're about to explain something based off of biology and science. That all sounds cool. What you're gonna do, right? Is this new

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party since COVID. ended, man?

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Dr. COVID Dr. COVID Listen, when you got this guy forget about six, eight. Let's say you got this guy. 511 right. And he's in a gym bench. You know, hidden three plates. 315 pounds, six reps squat and 450 pounds. I don't I don't I don't care. I don't see rock. I don't care. I don't know you translate okay, but you Okay? Listen. I don't care what blame was missed when they were earlier. What are they when they were little? What are you doing right now what rd?

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didn't misunderstand your point. You're saying okay, go ahead, bro. Go

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into the athleticism point at all. I

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was just speaking. That's what we were. That's what we were. You might you might have missed it.

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Okay, maybe I missed it. Jerry. He's all I'm saying. I'm gonna make it very clear. Right. The only thing I'm saying is is that based on some of the comments that are heard I think there are people in here that prescribed like the lady was just talking about, they can change if they want to. And bla bla bla bla all that nonsense. That's not how that's not how gender works. A new grad just called it the brain bullshit. It's not bullshit just because you don't understand it. There's a whole lot of shit you don't want to say obviously Damn. So planned are they are people they are not choosing what they are that's what they are and for you to try to tell them what they're trying to say man

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thank you guys. Yes

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Korean wants to make the brain want to hear and wants to make the brain Copeland wants to make the brain which is a piece of meat senior to the spiritual unit. Copeland you never bring up spirituality in any of your conversations you completely disregard what is running the physical unit. total disregard for spirituality, tell

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him grant you

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everything, body everything is a penis, everything is a brain with you know, there's no regard for the spiritual unit, the spiritual influence the genius beyond whatever it is, and you think you understand everything. So there's no possible

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video there it is usually forgotten. Yeah. Yeah.

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Dr. Copeland, this is Barry and I agree with you 1,000%. And this is the first time in history and I was actually wondering where you are, if you were on vacation with Dr. Fauci or what because he hasn't been seen in a long time and boy, have you? But I'm just I have to, I have to agree with you. 1,000% you know, in the hairdressing community, we have a lot of gay people and gay and lesbian people in this industry. And I, you know, they're an an every one of them. I mean, so many of them. Yes, are very buff guys. And you know what? I? So many, so many of them are more female than I am they make jokes about it. Why do you think women always say their gay friends? I believe that I believe what Dr. copelan is saying 1,000% People do not just come out, because they think it's fun, or it's just like a hobby, or like, Oh, this is gonna be cool. It's like in style. They, I mean, that is a terribly difficult thing for anybody's family to have to manage through. When somebody comes out. You know, it's very difficult. I don't think that that's like a, you know, a common thing. Now, do I believe that men that biological men should be able to compete in women's sports? 1,000% nods. I think that is completely irresponsible. It's not fair to biological women, etc. But as a, as a as it, you know, and so many of them are incredibly spiritual. So many of them have very much belief in God. And they know that the Bible says that they are not welcome under those circumstances. And yet, this is what I'm just gonna say. And all loving God. And all loving God will accept people who are genuinely amazing people, and they truly are for who they are as human beings and who they choose to be as human beings. And I truly believe that the majority of those that are gay, bisexual is a different situation, they might choose that that's like, whatever. But as it relates to, like, literally full on, you know, get they learn. They are, they are gay from the time they're so small. They are so they are gay from the time they're so little. And I'm just saying, I, for the first time in my whole life, I agree with Dr. copelan.

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Are you? I want to agree, Mary, Mary, thank you for that. Yeah, I agree. I really want to I respect that.

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I agree to marry Dr. copelan. Is not saying that they were born biologically male. He's saying that they missed a stint where they were supposed to get a dose of testosterone. So actually, I think you're not saying what he's saying. He's saying these transgenders that are competing in sports that are opposite to their biological makeup. is actually yes, that's what he's saying. He's saying they were. He's saying now. Maybe he can clarify because he's saying they're not biologically male from birth. That's exactly what he's saying. Dr. copelan, you're welcome to come to them. But that's, that's what I heard him say. I've heard him say that one person cannot claim that they're biologically male based on their biology, because they missed a certain testosterone boost. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not an expert on this, but

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that's what I heard you say? So you are absolutely correct. So for example, a lot of people think, oh, this person has an excellent Y chromosome that makes them male. Not understanding that a person can have an intact Y chromosome but the Srbiji which is the expression the male genius the bank have upon the chromosomes. There's nuance to this shit. It's not simple. It's not saying Oh, you have XY chromosomes your male that's how that works. Tim about Kleinfeld There's x x, y, x, y y. You gotta

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use this now bro Okay, everybody,

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I'm taking you too fast what I was saying was it something called kleinfelds or syndrome where people have an x x and a y and not just an x and a y. There's there's about 70 of those kinds of disorders that people have. It's not about sex is not this very general binary thing. That's cap. It's very good.

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Now you're calling it a disorder God.

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This is a disorder because disorder. No, listen, stop talking.

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Debbie. Mute, you guys might get the guy on one second one. second.com. Get the guy out there saying that whoever that guy is, get the guy out that's doing that

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is Glenn Clodfelter syndrome. Clodfelter syndrome is a syndrome because those individuals do present with health issues, because they have an extra version of a chromosome that is not typical in humans, right? That's why it's a syndrome that has to do with their sex. It's about the fact that they have that extra androgen due to the fact that they have extra chromosomes. Again, you need to read a book right? Again, it

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might be hard today

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about Kevin.

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I would advise you to go back.

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Here I have so much smoke with Debbie like she like goes at her business. Because Debbie's just like

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he doesn't know anything. Debbie has never described any thing. You can see, yeah, well, what is Debbie saying her profile like literally nothing. I'm just saying I've asked many times, basically what your background is. Yeah. And then you keep going. So I don't know what your background is

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gonna be. We know Debbie. Debbie has a lot of great points. And I'm just I'm, I think she does. I'm just gonna be on her. ptr

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is hot. So

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let me see. Her ptr is hot. Okay. I'm not saying it's not I'm just repeating what he said. Debbie, you are hot. You're hot. Like a hot hot some. Boy down, boy. God damn you thirsty? Thirsty. Okay, my thirst is quenched. Okay, anybody else wanna jump in?

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Can I talk about Ukraine?

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Oh, no, no, go ahead, Jordan.

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So on the flip side, right. On the women trying to base it like at the beginning, like when it was just sports, just men, right? Women were trying to get in the same leagues that men were playing in, right.

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Okay, but women was African women were not having surgeries to do it, though. They are. They're just saying, Hey, I'm a woman. I'm a boss. I think I can hang with y'all. But um, yeah, so I don't think they were having surgery.

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I could be devil's advocate, right.

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What is Devil's Advocate even though

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women are women is the opposite side. I know.

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So I'm just trying. So there's our women complaining for the fact that men are because I do agree. I do. I do say for me, it is unfair, however, are women in sports now complaining that men are competing in there.

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Oh, I see your point. Do women ever want point? Okay. Yeah, I see his point. Like, go ahead, bro. I see your point. Now. Go ahead, bro.

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Nah, that's really I'll just like I said devil's advocate like now, is it a good thing that women are complaining that men are coming into our leagues? Transgender, whatever, whatever you want to call it? Right. But back then when? NBA whatever sports NFL,

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because that because the women weren't coming to the league. Sorry, the women were coming to those leagues for testosterone. Okay. Versus true. There were

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one does it doesn't matter what. Fair to his point. He's not talking about what they come in with. He talked about the fact of it being fair, unfair.

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Jerry, please, can I please give my rebuttal to that? Because it's ridiculous. Can you please give you 30 seconds?

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Right. You said please take

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a look, my friend. That was great. That was great. mental gymnastics, but the truth of the matter is, no woman has ever won any major sports championship. Now if we allow things to continue as they are, we're going to have the WNBA full of six eight dude. As mentioned earlier on squatting 400 pounds, you know winning trophies. It's not fair, bro. Okay.

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With it, I agree with you ain't got to stick your chest though I agree that it's unfair. I'm just playing on the flip side. Back then women were trying to play in men's league back then

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a different totally different light

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for so many things. They had to express their their worth. They had to express who they are. They had to express it. They're capable of doing things that men are doing because they were fighting so many battles. Sports was just well,

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why does a woman have the need to find it? They have to prove that I could do so much identity. Oh, to Jerry to say that Dave. David. David, quick, David quick message me stuff to say David. Yeah, you

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imagine a woman? Imagine a woman in the NFL? Do you think those men are gonna really want to pop that woman as

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a woman bro? What does that have to do with sports?

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I'm talking about NFL like tackle like,

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you gotta come with a better word than pop that woman bro.

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We're watching the game. And somebody gets popped.

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Why don't we say taco bro? Let's say tackled or hit.

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Let's just say. So imagine a woman. Oh, they let her on the on the team for political correctness. Now she she's in the Super Bowl. Um, Brady hands her the ball. She's running it. Yeah, here comes some free safety.

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Brady's retired but other than that, it's fine. And so

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not as free safety. Yes. You know, come on,

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let her have it and say Welcome to the League. You guys, first of all, sports has such a short lifespan for most athletes, even the pros. So people are not getting getting these trans becoming transgender so they can compete in sports. You guys now it's just this new phenomenon because there's younger No, there's younger one second. There's younger people now that are deciding right at the age of 1920 that they want to they make this trend and they still have 10 years of sports left him and they want to compete and that's why we're seeing this but we know sports life is very short. All right, gotcha. Do that. Thank you.

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Yeah, thanks for taking the hit. I appreciate you. But listen, I want I want to hear from them on the intersect thing though because a brother a bro bro bro I gotta add a different intersect. I want you guys to look at the link at the top debate. The news is streaming all over the place on your favorite podcast was Apple Spotify? Can you name a couple more? More? Johnson? I guess I get stuck at Apple and Spotify. Mr. Bing

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Yeah, so So yeah, we were on tune in radio with

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me that guy just please grant Jonathan.

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I will iTunes Spotify tune in guys you name it. We're there. If you look at it. We also are on Amazon Google. Any any network out there you guys can find the beat the news guys. Quality high quality guys guess what we are we are officially released yet. But you guys are able to go there right now. Find this right now. official launch we got to get our official launch set up. But people from Tanzania people in Sweden people in the UK, people in Sudan, people in India, people in Australia. People in Finland? Everyone is consuming this information man that they're loving what we're doing here. So I just want to put that out there. I'm gonna turn Oh, Jerry jerky tell you guys how to do it. Well, if you click on the link, guys, the website will take you to all the streaming platforms. Jerry, back to you, sir.

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Yes, yes, early marathon.

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You know, I don't know why people try to say stuff just to be funny out of line on a stage. But um,

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no, I'm genuinely curious about man million marathon.

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While you can go on a mini marathon and have a conversation with them, and they'll let you know, brother. Okay, appreciate you. This is debate the news, everybody. And yes, so we are definitely live. And you know, we've been getting such a good response with the quality like Jonathan said. But just imagine you're at home chilling, you missed the episode or just imagine you want to hear part two. That's why when I say to everybody when your audience come to the stage, because you're going to be able to share a good experience and being an incredible podcast is going to be growing at warp speed. The same way this new club that hasn't been around for two months has been growing. And it's all because of you the users. The when I say users me and the people that come to the stage and supports our room, and all these incredible moderators, especially the ones it's like, this just rocks wood it's like my man see rock see rock is just here. All of you Mater is Angel. The ones that come in here just really supports us like just day one. All you moderators Much love to all of you guys. But um Yeah, John, I'm really excited my brother so keep in mind everybody, we got a new time three To 6pm Pacific Standard Time, and six to 9pm. Eastern time we go five days a week, every now and then we're going to do some little pop ups on the weekend on our weekend edition. So I'm going to ask you guys to follow these moderators. But I will also ask you to put on a bell or me and Mr. Jonathan Bing and follow the club. So you guys can know when we're going live and put the bell on. So yeah, John has anything else you want to add my brother? Mr. Bing,

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no, yeah, no, guys listen to me when I want to add guys like yeah, guys, support us. Guys. I'm gonna tell you something. There's people around the world as consuming this stuff and, and the response has been great. But guys go out there. Just follow us man. Go go check out the podcast. Do us a favor. Follow us man. We will ask you guys to do much. Follow us man where we really we really want this content out there. People are enjoying it. clubhouse is such a small platform. And guess what, guys, every last one of you guys that participated today, you let your family know that you're part of a podcast, and that they can hear you on these podcasts on Spotify. Tune in Apple, iTunes, Google, you know, Amazon, all of them, every last one of them. And the

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thing that the thing is so dope, we got some pretty powerful, heavy hitters that come through our room, as you guys know, so you're going to be able to participate in these conversations. It's basically just you're listening to debate the news on a live stream. So it's the same experience you're getting except you're gonna be able to replay it share it with some of your friends and family you got some

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you got some big 10 bullshitters in here when Copeland dropped into

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and we got some people like what grant just said what grant just said because Dr. copelan You know you go you know a rock what you don't get a coke and don't get it twisted. If I see you somewhere a doctor coke not right or die with you. Dr. COVID Dr. copelan just wanted to catch that law bro. Oh my god, I can't believe you didn't catch that lab. I'll take everything back that I said

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that's him right there.

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what happened. I wasn't listening to her my main weapon weapon what

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Grant Cardone gave you

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can you big compliment did not

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Greg gave you a very big company. Did I add it to his compliment? I gave a bigger compliment I'll say I ride or die with Dr. copelan. I said you my guy Dr. Cole. That's what I said.

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No, no nerves can't dunk.

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Dr. Kobe, even even even though you say a lot of stuff and you rely so much on your your your you know your degrees and the stuff you learn in school. And you don't do prac app meaning practical application, there really goes on, you know us kind of go off of this person said this person said that they wrote a piece of paper. So now it's fact even though you do that, I still ride or die with you Dr. Covey, because everybody can change. Everybody can you know, learn and grow? You

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know, based on what Copeland said, based on what Copeland said people can't change and they can't grow their brain determines the little brain determines

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their lives, you know, you absorb non empirical evidence and use it as fact.

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So all you got to do is keep coming to debate the news and it's just like a compound effect. You know, you get one part you get one part they start to grow, start to grow, they start to multiply. That's when I start to have me because I look everybody I want everybody to follow Dr. Cogan, give him some love. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm noticing a change in him each week each time he comes to the room. No, you're not. I'm not going

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to the dark side.

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Dark Side, how dare you say, hey, everybody look at Grant's PTR. And he said dark side looking graffiti. And he said dark side? No, no, my brother. We are definitely good, bro. Appreciate you Dr. Covino. You are always welcome my brother. And I mean, I

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appreciate your appreciate.

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And I got my homie and Katie came and bless the stage with us today. How are you doing? Beautiful. How are you? Oh, she didn't catch the lobby there. In case you did. Oh my goodness. Yeah, Jonathan. I'm sorry, ma'am. Throwing lives that people are not catching. But you know what? I gotta respect it. And I catch it a lot. You know why? Because they're utilizing this platform. Almost like it's a podcast. They're enjoying it. They're stepping away from their phone. They're in the house cooking. They're doing this they're doing that. And they're listening to debate the news when they can be somewhere else. So thank you and Katie, even though you missed my lab I just threw to you. Thank you. I appreciate you either way. So yeah, Mr. Mr. Jonathan Bing, my brother. Yeah, I got red in the building. What's up red? Are you gonna test lab? Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir. Jerry.

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So we debate the news.

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Thank you for catching a lot, my brother. Appreciate you. So yeah, so once again, follow the club. We appreciate y'all. Follow Jonathan Bing. Follow myself follies moderators, but make sure you put the bell on and Jonathan and myself. We're gonna have some other announcement. Coming up that wish very excited about we're going to share with our debate the news family. So I want to thank everybody. I'm going to do a soft landing today, even though it's Friday. Now normally do my little music and whatnot. But I'm going to go to my man Mr. Jonathan Bing one more time when I do something Mr. Jonathan Bing

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sorry Jerry. I don't mean to be

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I'm here I'm so yeah,

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and make sure make sure but but but but Uncle G's on the phone right now. But make sure every everybody follows Grant Cardone. show him some love, you know, shoot him a DM and say TEDx. Normally, I don't know what he's going to do. So I can't speak on it. But normally, when you go to grants Diem, and you just say 10x me. I've had people come to my back channel and say, bro, thank you for telling me that. Because I went to Grant's DM, and I put 10x Me and he sent me something cool. So go to grant cardones. DM. That's Instagram DM. And say teknicks me who who's who got that hot mic moderate to help me out. Some I got a hot mic, like, banging, building, doing construction, doing construction or something. So yeah, so that's about it, everybody. Um, it's Friday. But I got a question. Before grant takes off. It's Friday night. Still kind of early. How many y'all wants to go a little longer and kind of get a little spicy with a little late, late night cap? How many y'all want to get a little late night night cap? How many I want a few drinks or whatnot? How many of y'all want to party a little bit? If y'all if y'all want to party? And if y'all came to party say aye. Aye. That was so weak. That was so weak. That was a weak. Wait. So we carry

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I ask you a question? I don't mean to be rude. But I just wanted to let you know this just in case something is happening glitching on on the backend. Maybe you guys can do some research on it. into it for your for your club for your room.

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What is it great.

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I'm not I'm not sure if this happened to anybody else. But when I was trying to get into your room today, like I was in earlier, and then I was I somehow got out but it said that your room had closed. And I'm getting a message saying that it was closed. I'm not sure what

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we'll check that out. We'll check that I appreciate you. But once again, everybody make sure you click on the link up top, we got an incredible podcast where it's streamed everywhere possible. You know, I can name everything with you just click on that link. You'll see all the handles and this room will be up in about 30 minutes, maybe an hour. You can go back to two weeks ago three weeks ago. Once again, follow the club follow Jonathan Bing follow us moderators. Make sure when you follow Jonathan myself and Grant Cardone make sure you guys put that bell on so you can get the notifications we're gonna be doing some other rooms doing some special things I can promise you you guys are gonna want to be there when we do those other things. However I cannot go music I'm gonna have to do a hard landing because I got somewhere to go somewhere to be but however tonight I'd say nope I'm doing a Heartland and I want to thank everybody appreciate y'all follow the follow the file follow the club debate the news little greenhouse over the top click on the link follow the podcast give us five stars say some cool because of y'all part of it you know deserves five star rating. So appreciate y'all follow Grant Cardone go to his site. Go to his DM once again and put text me and I promise you manufacturers say Jerry sets you to put text me and watch you give you some special. Thank you everybody. Jonathan Bing, my brother. Love you my brother, everybody. We will see y'all Monday. Wait a minute, wait. Tomorrow I'm doing a room. Tomorrow I'm doing a room probably by 11:30am Pacific Standard Time. 11:30am Pacific Standard Time, where I teach people how to be a better moderator and clubhouse where I teach people how to create better relationships on social platforms by just having a better conversation with people as simple as that. Those that know me they know what I do in that room. And I can promise you if you come to our room 11:30am Pacific Standard Time. You can see a different side of Mr. Jerry Malcolm in my talking shit club. I'll be talking shit for a couple hours 10:30am Pacific Standard Time 1130 1230 1130 1231 3232 30 Eastern time. So thank you everybody and I will see y'all manyatta Have a good night everybody. Peace out. Bye

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About the Podcast

DEBATE THE NEWS
Live Podcast Audience with Jonathan Bing on The Chatter Social App
Here at DTN, We DEBATE The News! We Have Live Audience of Thousands of People That Presents Their Interpretation On Today's Local, National, & World News Topics. Spirited & Informed Discussions Are The Required. Our Co-Hosts Jonathan Bing and Daphyne Christine Engages The Audience and Sharpen Their Minds with Intellectual Combat!
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Jonathan Bing

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Jonathan Bing is a leading successful mortgage industry professional with 20 plus years experience. He is the EVP and founding partner of NationMac Mortgage a direct national lender. Jonathan has created many top mortgage and real estate resources for both industry professionals and consumers.
An avid art enthusiast and traveler, Jonathan enjoys traveling to Europe and fine dining. He is passionate about news, politics, and social issues. He is also a very passionate husband and father that currently resides in Burlington County New Jersey.