Episode 31

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10th Mar 2022

RECORD GAS ⛽️ ⬆️ RECORD OIL 🛢 ⬆️ RECORD INFLATION 📈 ⬆️ RECORD JOBS 🤯 with Jerry Malcolm, Grant Cardone, and Jonathan Bing

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DTN Intro 0:01

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Jerry Malcolm 3:57

debate the news it's about to go down. Good afternoon on this beautiful thriving Thursday. How's everybody doing? I am your host, along with the other host, Mr. Jonathan Bing. And I want to welcome everybody to debate the news. While it's still early, I'm going to ask you all to do me a huge favor. I have 45 shares in the hallway. I want to get that up to 100. All you got to do is click that little box looking thing with the arrow and to say something cool in the hallway say we want to debate say I mean here's about to get lit, whatever you feel like saying also click that same button where it says invite people I'm about to do right now which I'm gonna do right now where it says invite people click where it says invite people and just start pinging everybody you see up there just ping ping an invited me and once again, start pinging everybody and just invite them in. And I'm going to ask the people in the audience to do something different today. I'm going to ask you all to come to the stage. and Johnson's gonna have to come to the stage to stand next to me in the VIP hotel, come up and have a seat and join the conversation. ppreciate y'all, Mr. Jonathan Bing. Are you in the building my brother, what's up?

Jonathan Bing 5:15

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Jerry Malcolm 5:55

it. I love it. And I want to break a record. I want to break a record right here and clubhouse right now. I want everybody in here to start pinging some of their friends. Once again, in a vitamin ping. I got 59 shares. I'm trying to get to 100. So let's break that record in the first five minutes of us being open. But yes, interesting, man. I mean, record gas. Fortunately, I haven't had to, you know, really deal with that part so much. But record oil that either, but Well, I guess I have because some of my materials I deal with that's gonna be affected by the gas and the oil. So of course I am. Record inflation record jobs. Jonathan, you don't you don't want to know what's coming to my mind right now, when I think of all this problems in the world. I'm gonna leave religion out of it right now. But is there anybody on this stage right now that wants to comment on how one of these record things has been affecting their life? Recently? Or should I say in recent times?

Jonathan Bing 6:50

I better yeah. What's causing it?

Unknown Speaker 6:52

Well, sorry, I, the first question, I can say how it affected me directly. Today. This is Mary Lynn. So you guys know, I'm an automotive recruiting. I've heard I don't want to drive that far. To gas is too expensive. We have openings that can't get filled. Can't afford to work for that dollar price. I mean, it's affecting everyone I talked to and my job. So it's not good.

Jerry Malcolm 7:20

Is there is a change coming anytime soon? What's interesting, is this. Graduating?

Jonathan Bing 7:26

. And if you look back at the:

Jerry Malcolm 8:32

Yeah, um, you know, it was so interesting. Even more is it? You know, when COVID came, this wasn't it wasn't this bad during COVID. Now, how ironic, while COVID is not a conspiracy, the COVID is over, it's like you get hit with one thing with COVID. Now that COVID is just about appears to be over. Now you're getting hit with all these record highs. Anybody else want to jump in? You know, I don't I don't know. Up to this stage.

Unknown Speaker 9:02

To a lot of people, a lot of people want remote? Because they don't want. Yes, sorry, I'll let the next person go. But nobody was. thing. So it's just it's changed a lot. I've never had to work this hard to fill jobs for so many reasons. So anyway, I'll let the next person go.

Jerry Malcolm 9:20

Right. Yeah. So let me do this. Let me just say, Siri, let me just say this to everybody on the stage really quick. We're looking for people who want to come to the stage and join in the conversation. So if you're a little busy, you don't really want to join in, you know, you know, you can kind of, you know, just park down the bottom part. But if you want to join the conversation, come to the stage, raise your hand. I want you to join the conversation, but please come to the stage. If you're going to join the conversation. I will be turning chat on and off the next few minutes. So anybody else want to jump in? Appreciate you. So you anybody want to comment on this? Great

Unknown Speaker 9:52

comment, Gary. But I want to second what you were saying about it. Just the timing part of it is whether COVID is over or not, I think the timing part is that during COVID, we did experience what's known as quantitative easing, when government steps in, and it kind of put some things on freeze. And now that freeze or no McCain is wearing off. So now we're experiencing the things in the market that should have taken place. So with the inflation with the gas prices going up, I mean, I don't think any of us expected a war. I'm gonna say I didn't. But I do think that prices did need to see a shift in the upward just for us to be able to sustain I mean, I'm driving down the street, and I see that Domino's delivery driver is the starting wage is $20. I mean, that that's a big push for and we know that things are gonna go up accordingly. With that, I yield the mic.

Jonathan Bing:

That's a lot of red for delivery, driving $20 an hour. Okay. So let's see, I work eight hours, that's $160 right there. Plus Tips and Tips typically are going to be what $23 An hour? That's a hell at that.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah. Hey, Jonathan, a billionaire here. So I just heard that target is going to be increasing their their wage just like $25 an hour for you just to get into work at Target. And Uber driver and Lyft. Drivers are threatening to quit the business because of the gas prices. So we're going to be in trouble for anyone who relies on those rideshare services.

Unknown Speaker:

That's on record. This is Chad at the true. Last on the gas prices weren't as high. And we looked at some quantitative easing was about what I remember 2008 byte directly after the housing market, crash and debacle. So with the war happening, yeah, I think like Miss Cooper said, I don't think anyone really seen that coming on the horizon. But the market correction and everything like that, that we're looking at, timing wise, is is definitely on cue. And, but these prices going up, you'll see the cost of goods and services that we normally have enjoyed for the past 1214 years, just go right back up as well. Three or four years from now, they might level it might level off or table off somewhat. But cost of goods and services are going go up and all of those creature comforts that come along with it will certainly increase as well. Yeah, I have a quick question.

Unknown Speaker:

For the for the room. I was I was just someone mentioned Domino's. And it's just Joey down at the bottom. I was just passing like a Wawa or sheets. And they also were were advertising right around 18 to $20 an hour for a cashier. So my question is, I've got a I've got a really good job. But as as as wages go up, and inflation goes up, the the the the salary bracket, I'll just give a ballpark for those that are making 75,200 25,000, somewhere in that ballpark. Do you do you see an increase in those wages? Because I, you know, up until about a year ago, I felt like I was making making, you know, decent money. But as we're paying hourly workers more, and the inflation is coming, I'm just kind of curious to see if we'll see an increase in that. Maybe call it middle class bracket as well, that I'm curious to hear other people's opinions.

Jonathan Bing:

So you're saying that I want I just want to tackle you, Sam, because the wages are going up? You think that there's gonna be more people entering the middle class? Is that what that will do? You're just asked, and I just want to

Unknown Speaker:

Well, no, not entering the middle class. I'm just kind of wondering, in order to pay those wages, we're going to see higher prices on the board. So for me making 75 to 125. Wherever I fall in that ballpark. I'm my cost will be going up now. So show I'm curious to see if my wage will reflect that and kind of curious to see what other middle class people if that's wages,

Jonathan Bing:

wages lasting to follow that go up. But I will tell you, your 125,070 $5,000 a year job isn't what it was a year ago, two years ago. So once again, we the supply chain hit us at COVID. And you know, you can blame the federal government, you know, and it's not just this administration. It's both the last administration and this administration because they pumped a lot of cash out there. There's a lot of money being given out there. So when there's a lot of money, and there's a supply and demand issue and the There's a lack of supply. With a lot of money, people are gonna overpay and then people that's gonna reset the market. You know, guys, you know, people paying five $6 $7 a gallon of gas right now. And that's that's like, that's crazy. Guess what, it has been proven that we will pay that. So it will not go back to where it was before. You know, you can bet on that, you know, lumber did not go back to where it was before and nothing has gone back to where it was before. You know, that guy Dollar Tree, they wouldn't they raised their prices a quarter or whatever it was, or 53, whatever the thing is quarterly raised in price, they're not going to go back to $1. Tree, they're doing $1 For for product after this, they're gonna stay the same. Even if the, I guess supply chain, whatever I mean, if they if they're able to get things, God bless them if they can, back to where it was pre prior to that if they can get those same prices, they're not going to go back and revert. It is here to stay. Unfortunately. I'm Jonathan i Yo.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, Jonathan, its Peter, how you doing?

Jonathan Bing:

On top of the world, Peter on top of the world. Yeah, I agree with

Unknown Speaker:

you 100%, even on goods coming in from out of the country where we're still not manufacturing here, you know, the cost of a shipping container in 2019. To bring from let's say China, ran 4500 to 6500 bucks to get it here to port in the United States. Now they're going for as high as 45,000. And that was because of COVID. Now look at what's going to happen on top of that with the diesel fuel costs going up, because that's what these ships are using to get here. The cost of goods to get them here from out of the country is going to be astronomical. So even the stuff that came in cheaper is no longer going to be on the less expensive side. So we may actually see a cost average where it's worth manufacturing here again, because it's going to get so expensive to bring goods in. And I agree with you 100%, on the inflationary pressures, all these costs for everybody, the average American, they're all going up, gasoline is going up to get the cost of these goods to market, your groceries are going to go up by three 400 a month, 500 a month, maybe for a family. It's it's it's really, really tough. I mean, when you start looking at the fact that they may couple interest rates as well on the rise. How does even somebody afford to get a mortgage? If if they're there, when you adjust for inflation? Their income isn't going up to these levels? You know what I mean?

Jonathan Bing:

Yeah, Bobby, once I got once again, because several people mentioned quantitative easing, and I think you guys I did not mention use it in the right way. Quantitative Easing, guys is when the government is what the central bank introduces, I guess, cash into the system, okay to keep interest rates artificially low. So and you guys are using quantitative easing? And, you know, I just want to make sure that everyone's actually aware of what quantitative easing? Is it that we use it, that we're using it the right way? Good.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, Bobby, I'm just gonna jump in briefly, just because I just wanted to support the room a little bit. I mean, NYC, it's crazy. The only thing I want to say is that, yes, we're, you know, rightly focused on inflation. We're rightly focused on our expenses going up. But I do think something that is positive, and I'm Mr. Optimistic all the time, but is that the pandemic, for the most part is ending. And, you know, I say this as a Canadian, where essentially, all of the restrictions are gone, with the exception of masks, which I've heard are going to be gone in a week or two. So you have to remember that Canada is one of the most conservative countries in the world when it comes to COVID. And so what's already happening, boots on the ground, and Toronto, which is like the New York of Canada, is, everything is opening up in terms of jobs, in terms of live events, in terms of businesses. So yes, inflation is going up, yes, there's all these expenses, but I do see an economic boom, about to hit us really hard. So as much as we are worrying about how we're going to get by and meeting our subsistence needs. I just think remember, we've got pent up demand for two years, where depending on where you live, you know, the economy has been stalled, at best or stopped at worst, and I do think it's about to go into overdrive. And once that money starts flowing, it could really change a lot of people's fortunes. So I just wanted to add that in. I want

Unknown Speaker:

to chime in real quick about what Jonathan said about the quantitative easing, and in the course of business services in the flow of supply and demand. Whenever there's a influx of money being dumped into the market, for whatever reason, it is stabilized artificially The rates and so on and so forth. We also have to understand what that extra money being dumped into the market and the willingness of the American people to overpay for normal goods and services. Were helping to debase the currency or devalue the currency. Now, there are other factors and part of that, but with the question that Joey asked earlier, what the middle class household average salary go up, it might go up in a couple of years or so. But when you look at the average of the dollar to the cost of goods and services, your money's not going no further when they apparently going, where it's going now, right? gases that four or 5000 gallon gas dip down to what maybe 250 at the darkest period of COVID. Look where it's at. 450-420-5550 sorry, 525 in California is $9 a gallon right now? Almost 10. So money is going to be always relative to how the government is either strengthening the dollar or it's weakening by outside influences. As of right now. No, I don't see things getting cheaper. And no, I was gonna double again in the strawman, what it currently is, as time goes on, it will become weaker. And we'll be having to deal with this problem. All over again, new record low of gas, new record high gas prices, and new record high costs of goods and services. But that are you?

Jonathan Bing:

Absolutely, guys, this war in Ukraine, this one Ukraine has really affected us all. You know, is it? Are we paying too heavy of a price for what's going on on there just to show the support? Or is this just this is I guess, par for the course this should be just should be expected to short that, that we support this country. So I mean, are we any oil, the oil embargo in terms of not diet and bring it important Russian oil and all the other sanctions that was put on Russia, that's affecting the economy and the fact that you know, I want to talk about also I want to add in there guys, you know, because there's a lot of people supporting Ukraine there is a British troops soldiers from the UK there's been like a ton of them, like going AWOL as gowning that's an area and going to fight the fight inside of Ukraine to fight the Russians. Is that the makings of world war three? I want to put that out there as well because we're talking about all these record highs. You know, records are meant to be broken guys. So they're the record highs now that doesn't mean that they're gonna be records in a 40 year record on four, you know, waiting there's gonna go down, you know, and down, down down. I mean, have we peaked have we plateaued? I don't think so. So yeah, guys, the UK the British soldiers had and I'll put a link up there. British soldiers are scouting, going AWOL to go and fight the with the Ukrainians to fight the Russians. Do you guys think that is the beginning of something horrible?

Unknown Speaker:

Did you hear about Facebook and Instagram recently?

Jonathan Bing:

Go ahead and what about Facebook and Instagram?

Unknown Speaker:

Yes, it's just a headline from Reuters it just came out Facebook will temporarily allow post calling for violence against Russians so I know

Jonathan Bing:

that's not verified get so anyway guys. We're talking about the soldiers and the UK as well. From the UK actually going over to the Ukraine to fight could that trigger a much bigger conflict that's what I'm asking I can't hear you

Unknown Speaker:

I think anyone if they end up getting finding out that they're sanctioned by their government Hell yeah. But if not how they're going to know right I mean, they're there sometimes I wonder if we don't have special forces in there already in there before this war even started I mean as long as it's not on the official who's to say that on the down low we're not there already. You know what I mean?

Jonathan Bing:

Of course we have special for you guys you guys we got to remember the Russians at one point guys put bounties out on United States soldiers heads did you guys we call that doing the Afghanistan conflict. So it to me guys. You know, I just this is par for the course that but you know the fact that once again, I put the pair I pinned the link guys. Once again, I truly believe given how crazy Putin is. And given how Putin has done this stuff in the past. He these I believe that this is state sanction. And instead of people running off to, to join and fight the Ukrainians, so I just that's something that's really dangerous guys, gasoline guys what up I believe is eight cents in one day. And it's just going up, up up, there's no end and stop guys, you guys, you guys have to remember the Russian embargo did not take place, I mean that the stopping of the employment of Russian oil did not take place yet. Okay. And that the oil that's in the pump was already in the ground when that happened. So the most of the oil that's in these pipes that's in there that she has a pump and pump right now was in the ground already on a gas station, taking advantage of us as oil or oil companies taking advantage of us. There's a lot that's happening, guys. You guys seem to be a little quiet about this. Well, I've always said

Unknown Speaker:

warned us about this. He said it he said if you put Biden in gas prices would touch $8. Everybody y'all remember him saying that? You know? He did? He warned us Jonathan me you guys didn't take heat and this is where we're at now. So once we reinstall him to his rightful throne everything would go back to normal

Unknown Speaker:

are you thinking

Jerry Malcolm:

hey, wait what you know he didn't a DJ elaborate elaborate on that brother. On You said rightful throne. Wait, wait, wait, wait, no, I'm gonna use the words you said so basically to you, Trump

Unknown Speaker:

in that I don't mean like

Jerry Malcolm:

you said rightful throne. So to you. You look at him. He's the King. I'm just using your words.

Unknown Speaker:

Now. That's not what I mean. I just mean once we put them back in as president, you know, everything would go back to normal.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, cuz I was just let us I didn't know, I didn't I didn't know what made you refer to him as your as a king. That just kind of threw me off.

Unknown Speaker:

Elections have consequences. And we're and we're we're seeing a consequence right now. You sat around normal.

Jerry Malcolm:

Yeah, he said rifle. But let me ask you this, though. If and I gotta ask DJ this because he seems very adamant about this thrown thing in he remixed it a little bit after I said what I said, But let me ask you this. Um, you know, Trump was the president. What do you call it again, Jonathan, that was that term. I keep forgetting how you say it that he was a president. So isn't it easier for the current president to win an election than to lose it? Incumbent incumbent? Yeah. So his rightful throne, as you said, but how did he lose that throne? How do you lose? How do you get out when he once but once again, how how do you feel about somebody that did something that most powerful presence that never happens to them? Europe? What were they able to get get a second term? How do you feel about somebody like that? They got out with it by somebody who everybody called sleepy, Joe. He's so dumb. You don't know what he's doing? Yet? He was so smart. Or whatever. He hadn't placed whatever system was so smart to outwit to do who should be on that throne. How do you feel about that dude that could even accomplish that run in this world? Hey, Jerry. I was talking to DJ. Whoa, whoa, Biden. take take take take a deep breath, brother, cuz you started right now take a deep breath.

Jonathan Bing:

Okay, okay. Okay, fine.

Unknown Speaker:

Exactly what I'm about to say Make no mistake about it. Biden was not like this masterful chess player. He's just, he's easy. He's a puppet as well. And Trump had the whole global elites against him. That's every media outlet from AP to rotors to

Jerry Malcolm:

every DJ DJ. Let me let me reframe it another way. Wait, DJ, DJ, let me reframe it another way in case you didn't catch it. Something or someone? Or maybe it happened organically. So it's only it's two ways it happened. It either happened organically, where maybe all those people was against them knew something and they saw something, they decided to be against them. And it made sense, organically, or some of that stuff was was placed there. And some of that stuff was placed there and somebody orchestrated it, either. If you pick either one is not good for him, either one. So which one do you think it was orchestrated by some brilliant people? And it worked? Or was it organic? Because all those people saw something that was not the same as what you saw?

Unknown Speaker:

It was okay.

Jerry Malcolm:

So now you guys orchestrated No, wait one second. But DJ, who do you think orchestrated? And who was the conductor behind orchestra? And I'm just curious, what did you think?

Unknown Speaker:

So it's not one single person the CDs things happen like on like an osmosis type of level like it's just many players. Everybody knew. It just seems like Trump was the nationalists that every all the globalist hate hate it. And this doesn't have to do with party lines because these, a lot of the Democrats and Republicans are globalists. And that's why I always say, we really only have two parties. You're either a globalist or you're a nationalist.

Jerry Malcolm:

I got you. I'm just curious, though, because when people speak so much about as you said, the person wrote to his throne. I'm like, if he's so damn powerful, how did he lose that throne?

Unknown Speaker:

And I do blame Trump because I think Trump was in over his head. And I don't think he really he didn't realize how deep the swamp

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, so wait a second. So wait a second, somebody who somebody who was in for four years and who was according to your words, the person on the throne, but we're gonna use your other words, was in over his head. Those are your words, I'm using brother in over his head. And he didn't realize how deep the swamp was. Do you think that this United States need somebody who's not smart enough to realize all the stuff you just said? Oh, no. Let that breathe. Let that breathe for a second. And I do blame Trump for Luis Australia. Luis, Australia. Yuna stage. Luis, Man, y'all gotta get using all

Unknown Speaker:

of those. Oh, no, no, look, I do.

Jerry Malcolm:

Wait, wait one second. One second. One second. Brother. I want to hear the guy this. I just slammed him. Give me an example. Wait, wait, wait one second. Somebody said just

Unknown Speaker:

this is Francis. So you just landed?

Unknown Speaker:

He uses words that? Well, I blame Trump I think Trump was not smart enough to realize the swamp. And then you said what do you think somebody that's not that smart to be the right person for it?

Jerry Malcolm:

I got a question for you, Francis. Francis, I got a question for you. If you can give me an example. Or maybe even use it in a sentence. How did I slam him by just using words and statements that he said, How's that slamming?

Unknown Speaker:

Well, okay, so I would say this, you use his own argument against him, which is a good tactical way to fight to do an argument. Yeah, good debater. So you use his own? Hey, I

Jerry Malcolm:

am part of the club called debate. I am part of a club called debate the news. So I'll agree with that.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, so yeah, good debate. So you you took his own exact statement, or you framed it in a way for him to look at this. Okay. Wow. Way to me, maybe I did not really frame my statement. The best way possible. Yeah, we started with he is a king, you call them to read through until I talked my head ready for that.

Jerry Malcolm:

Thank you, my brother. Anybody else want to jump in? But before I do that, though, wait, once all the elections one, okay, I'm gonna come to you in a second brother, I'm gonna come to you, whoever you are. You're next. The person said still want one second? I got you to Debbie. But before y'all do that, I made 89 shares. So let me tell you, I'm about to do right now. I'm going to open up the chat. And I'll let you guys chat for a little bit. I want to hear what you guys think about this topic. But I gotta say this real carefully. For you couple guys is very goofy. For whatever reason, they say those crazy things in the chat. You're going to be exit stage left if you do it today. Okay, because we have people watching the chat, the chat is to engage. You don't have to agree what we're saying. But don't be disrespectful. And don't disrespect. You know, people in the room. That's not a good thing to do. You will be removed if you do it. So also, I need some more shares. I appreciate you got me up to a 90. But can you get me up to about 150. And once again, hit that share button and ping some of your friends and invite them in. Debbie, I'm going to go to you. As soon as the guy that said he stole the election. I'm going to go to Debbie. Okay, I'm going to go to UW because the guy that stole the election didn't go, Debbie.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, so I totally agree with DJ Friday's not the part where he said Trump was dumb or whatever you said, but I think a lot of people

Jerry Malcolm:

he did say dumb.

Unknown Speaker:

When I said he wasn't good enough. He wasn't. He wasn't gangster enough. He should have had people

Jerry Malcolm:

arrest you see he remixed it, though. You didn't say?

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, I agree. He's too good. For what?

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, well, I'll just make one point since other people want to talk. Um, I think a lot of people look at what Trump did literally through the eyes of CNN and not what he brought attention to. So for example, nobody knew or even question the news being fake. Before Trump, he literally coined fake news. So while people didn't agree with him, he also brought light and got people's attention and a way no other president did before. He didn't follow the traditional playbook. And he knew, I guess what DJ Fridays was saying previously was that Trump possibly could have been over his head I think Trump always knew what he was doing at the period of time in which he did it. And he was a master at getting attention. But the thing with Trump was like, even though he knew the election was fake, and they rigged the election, Joe never came out of his basement. He was never seen. He never did.

Jerry Malcolm:

Got a question for you.

Unknown Speaker:

One statement is that Trump brought to light what other people never question before about reality in the world.

Jerry Malcolm:

I got a question. I think I think, George Bush, I think you can correct me if I'm wrong. I think John Bill Clinton, I think Barack Obama, every president, I can really think of that in recent, you know, going back 10 1216 years, they all want a second term. This man was such a trendsetter, such an innovator. Oh, we're gonna disrupt a system. We're gonna turn it set. It was read. I know. But But But But the President has so much power.

Unknown Speaker:

About the president, it's about that much.

Unknown Speaker:

Give specifics.

Jerry Malcolm:

But Debbie, Debbie, do me a favor, Debbie. Do me a favor. Because listen, I'm going to you know, Debbie, not rock. Would you? Wait, Debbie, Debbie, Debbie? Debbie? Just one second. I'm vibing. With you. Is your mic? Just one second? You know, you and I we sit here and we laugh sometimes when we talk about COVID. And and you know, we got Dr. copelan. So let's do some a little different today. Let's kind of switch it and act like you're Dr. copelan. For a second how we talk to him, you and I how we talk to him. So Debbie, I'm asked you a question. You said it was rigged. We hear that a lot. For the fact that you said that. I know you wouldn't just be saying it off of emotions. Because if you are it would make any sense. You didn't be part of a debate. Okay, so give us an example. Or some type of data proving it was rigged. Go ahead, Debbie. Everybody mute their mic. While Debbie give us an example. And some data. Go ahead, Debbie.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, so most recent data is that I forget what it's called, like the State of the Union. That's what it is state of the union that just aired. Joe Biden had the lowest numbers out of any president ever. And he are trying to tell me he was more popular than Obama. With the votes that came in. Debbie.

Jerry Malcolm:

Do me a favor. Do me a favor. I don't know if you heard me. But I know, replays. You can replay it later. I never said that he was more popular. I don't know why you said that. I just said to you.

Jonathan Bing:

I think what she's trying to say is he received more votes. If he received more votes than Obama, you know, he should be more popular. Debbie. I want to say this right here, Debbie.

Jerry Malcolm:

I know she made it. Okay. Debbie, I

Jonathan Bing:

want to add this. Because you got to realize, because a lot more people are consuming the news of a streaming devices. Now. They're not all looking at television. So and I'm not I mean, those numbers as never, I don't know what his numbers are like, I never verified that. Not that I didn't think the look and see what the numbers turned out to be. But once again, we're in the middle of a pandemic, a lot of people are consuming their news off of devices now. And so, you know, I think right now, we just had to bowl just had a fantastic numbers, but that it was down, people will have been just consuming everything off of devices. And I don't know if those numbers are being calculated in right now. So that they I don't know if that holds much water.

Jerry Malcolm:

Jonathan, we're in a pandemic, I think any president that if they were in right now, during this pandemic, the whole world is turned upside down during this pandemic. But thank you for that. Debbie, did you land your plan? Or do you want to add something else? So you can if you would, like, Did you say anything else?

Unknown Speaker:

Cuz I could keep going, but I'll let other people go.

Unknown Speaker:

Well, when you want to ask, she didn't. Okay. Debbie, actually raised one fact about how the election was rigged. You just basically said, Oh, Biden couldn't have won. without even taking into account the fact that there were many people who hated Trump so much they voted against Trump. We're not necessarily for Biden. So can you please give us examples? You made a very specific statement. The election was rigged. And you haven't literally given one example.

Unknown Speaker:

Actually, I did. Were you not listening. I just said the State of the

Unknown Speaker:

Union is based on luck.

Jerry Malcolm:

Weight the way Terra. Terra. Terra. Once Once I can tear? Just one second, I'm let you jump in here. Now, let me ask you a question, Debbie. And because maybe John, you know, sometimes I'll kind of get lost a little bit. So let me see. Was the State of the Union when he counted the votes for me is that when he won the election or the winning election when he won the election? What is the state of what does the future have to do with the past? He lost the election back then? No, no. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. Debbie. The funny thing is, I understood what you were saying. You don't you didn't know what was gonna happen in the future. He could have been the best president ever. It could have possibly went that way by and that that didn't happen. However, you understand what I'm saying? Debbie, give us something to make it data as to why he lost back then forget about the State of the Union. So imagine we asked you this question three weeks before the State of the Union answer like that. If you don't, I'll give it to somebody else if you don't want to. All right, yeah. I see. I see what

Jonathan Bing:

am I? What am I good? Yeah. No, I'm talking. I'm talking Sheila. Yeah, that's my Yes. Go.

Unknown Speaker:

And then you guys are saying that he didn't say an example. So I don't really, Jonathan, you understand what I'm saying? You just said it. And everybody.

Jonathan Bing:

But that didn't that that didn't do that. But no, hold on. I disagree with you right now. I understand what you're trying to say. Okay. Because I'm asked to BS. I'm asked to bullshit because I've been here so I can understand it. Okay, I can translate it. That doesn't mean I agree with you. So what you still have not given us one reason. And the well, that's how you know that that election was stolen. It was rigged. You said it was rigged. Okay. So we have to know why it was breaking. It can't be the State of the Union, because the State of the Union would have had to travel back to the past ready and make his ass back to the future. And so I say here in the present, okay.

Unknown Speaker:

Do you all remember Sharpie gate? Cuz I voted with a sharpie and I have no idea.

Unknown Speaker:

Let's be fair.

Jerry Malcolm:

Yeah, once like everybody, let's be fair, because the more she talked to just let her talk. Go ahead. Go ahead, Debbie.

Unknown Speaker:

Do you guys remember Sharpie gate?

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, keep going. Yes, Sharpie

Unknown Speaker:

gate was when you filled out your ballot with a sharpie because they gave out Sharpies, but the ballot reader didn't detect Sharpie.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, gotcha. I'm gonna pivot from you. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. So she should know Debbie, Debbie. Jerry, let me go ahead. Hey, you know what? I got you, brother, Debbie. I actually like you. But however, you're about to get cut. know somebody is about to cut you so they can heal you go ahead, Louise.

Unknown Speaker:

Oh, yeah, I never interested in a healer. At this point. I gotta, I gotta just straight cut. Um, so Debbie, for the fact that like that, right. For the fact that you've said, for the fact that you said that the election was rigged. Do you not remember Trump literally firing the Postmaster General and replacing the Postmaster General with his own Postmaster General and removing ballot boxes out of predominantly democratic districts? Do you not remember that?

Unknown Speaker:

Do you remember when they didn't want people to go to the polls because they would need their ID

Unknown Speaker:

can I answer my question?

Unknown Speaker:

Can I go back to Sharpie gate

Jerry Malcolm:

I once I get here. I need Luis to I think Luis DeLand is playing Go ahead, Luis.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um,

Unknown Speaker:

so Debbie. First and foremost, that was one of the only elections that you could vote from home. Right? You can send in your mail in ballots, and that was happening across the nation. So we really

Unknown Speaker:

scam people. Because they didn't. Okay, wait a second. Wait a second. You voted and also dead people were voting.

Unknown Speaker:

That sounds so preposterous. And the fact that this election was the most reviewed election, and all those ballots were counted on multiple occasions, especially in the most contested states. So for you to say that sounds like Prudential. Yo, yo,

Jerry Malcolm:

Louise. Wait, wait, we don't have a Louise. Louise. You know, what's interesting, Louise? Louise, let me see what's interesting. She's catching. If that is true, if that is true, what she's saying, Luis, that means somebody behind the Biden administration orchestrated that. And if somebody who's the President got ahold of the CIA got ahold of the FBI, all that's on his team, and they kind of

Unknown Speaker:

got Hillary done. Oh.

Unknown Speaker:

And they could stop that. That. Okay, I got you. Wow. Well, the federal government, the federal, nothing to do with that. Go ahead.

Jonathan Bing:

Go ahead to go to Tara.

Unknown Speaker:

The merit counter Maricopa County Elections department sales, officially said that voters could use black or blue ink or sharpies to fill out ballots in person. It did not impact their votes. Okay, that machine counts all of those. So please give us something else because you just you don't you don't you? You basically read the the fake news that Trump put out and you didn't actually read what the election officials themselves said there were no as as Luisa said, and other people have said there were numerous audits in Arizona. There were not tons of dead people voting They were not people without signatures that were verified, etc. Okay.

Unknown Speaker:

This is bullshit. Are you? Are you here in Arizona?

Unknown Speaker:

Jerry? This? Is this Chris. Wait

Jerry Malcolm:

a second this guy

Jonathan Bing:

is Christian Are you here?

Unknown Speaker:

Are you here in Arizona?

Unknown Speaker:

Oh, I don't have a good read. I read. I read the all the court cases that I could get my hands on this happened, you know, over a year ago now.

Unknown Speaker:

But you don't know what you're talking about. You're not here. Not here to talk about

Unknown Speaker:

No, no, that's not true. Christian. Do you remember the last audit that just happened that the Republicans Hey, one

Jerry Malcolm:

second, one second, one second, one second, one second, one second. The guy, the people who keep jumping in please don't do that. We are trying to have a good user experience. We need these rooms organized with one or two people talking at a time. Please stop doing it. Last time. I'm going to request that. Go ahead. Tara member and Christian Christian

Unknown Speaker:

that was authorized by the Republicans in the State Senate I believe. Do you remember what it found even though this was done by cyber ninjas who was supposedly on the side of Trump, they actually found that Biden had won and won by a few more votes, I believe that he had initially won on the the week of the election.

Jerry Malcolm:

Right. Let me help you out here. Let me help you out. I got a question for Christian. Christian. Listen very carefully. Okay. I got a serious question. I want you to give me a serious answer. No bullshit. No, no, no extra calories. If the FBI and CIA, whoever, whatever agency came out and said, We found evidence that the Biden administration rigged the election, we got evidence if the FBI would have said that, would you believe them? Yes or no?

Unknown Speaker:

Well, if the federal government has nothing to do with, okay, like, okay, even if they have even if they have evidence, the federal government has no authority.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Let me just see how real you're going to keep it right now. What is the guy's name I camera? The guy's name was the guy's name that was investigating whether it was collusion in the in the election? What was his name?

Unknown Speaker:

You're talking about? I got

Jerry Malcolm:

a question for you. Okay, listen, listen, I just wanna see how real you keep it and just see if you're just absolutely gone. If Robert Mueller would have said he has clear evidence, regardless of what happened with it. He has clear evidence that the Biden administration was in cahoots to stop this election to rig it. Would you believe that? Yes, sir. No.

Unknown Speaker:

It wouldn't matter if I believe Okay, okay. Nevermind,

Jerry Malcolm:

not micro Nirma. You know, so crazy. They don't

Jonathan Bing:

want to answer questions. And that's how you tell who's real who's not real. Exactly.

Unknown Speaker:

You know, what? A

Jerry Malcolm:

Christian Christian, thank you so much for foot because you right, Jonathan? You're absolutely right. You know, dog don't get John Grant.

Jonathan Bing:

I know because that's why, you know, I, you know,

Unknown Speaker:

I got this question when

Jonathan Bing:

you didn't ask Christy you didn't answer it before. Why?

Jerry Malcolm:

I don't want you to answer. I'm gonna tell you why. I don't want you to answer it. I don't know where I'm at. No, no, you wouldn't ask. I don't know what it is with you, Trump, not writers. It is crazy. If some, if anything comes out negative about anybody else. That has something to do in favor of Trump. It is a fact. And you guys are gonna regurgitate it. But if it's anything that that's about Trump is negative. It's fake news. Why can't you? Why can't you just say I like the man. He did some good things. If he was in California, we probably went on a rent control. We'd have gun laws, all kinds of things that can help even me, but why do you guys not keep it real? What is it what Donald Trump that you guys got them in your DNA? Were you get some real?

Unknown Speaker:

Let me keep it real. I'll keep it real. Right, Debbie? You ready for a lifeline? Go ahead. Darrell from Florida. Go ahead. So Debbie, the reason it's hard for you to find a fact is because this election was unprecedented and that it was the biggest suppression of facts that was ever coordinated. This isn't just opinion that was ever coordinated. And then election ever in history. I mean, we're just now coming out from the Durham report that the whole Russian collusion that was laid against Trump 2015 2016 was a farce. And then you had every media might want

Jerry Malcolm:

to come up one second brother. I'm about to open chat up right now. So everybody get ready. I'm open chat, we're going to do in increments because you guys really support the chat. And you really use it and it starts to glitch. So I'm going to open it for about 20 minutes, then I'm going to close it again. But remember, let's be respectful. Go ahead, brother. So pumpkin openshot Go ahead, brother.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, so So Debbie, that was a lifeline. It's hard to find the facts because They're suppressed, but they're out there. And Jerry, I just want to throw this out there earlier. You made a good point and I think it should be responded to. It's not that Trump's I don't think Trump's an idiot guys, I'm involved in Florida politics very heavily. Governor, all that stuff. So let me just say that Trump was never held any office. He was never a governor before he went into presidency. One. Keep that in mind, too. I don't think he underestimated the swamp. He just doesn't understand how politics works. He went into the presidency, running it like he was gonna run the Trump Organization and camouflage.

Jerry Malcolm:

He was like, Can I pause you one second brother? gonna pause for a second? I got a question for you, Darrell. And thank you for for going back there. I appreciate that. So Darryl, let's act like the person's name wasn't Trump because I know it's just somebody that TR you something about that Trump, it just makes all kinds of other things. Okay. Now, I'm going to use what you just said. So as Luis rephrase, paraphrase what I said for the fact that you just said he didn't understand politics, and for the fact that you said he was trying to run it like something else. Do you want somebody like that? At crunch time? That doesn't understand from your words, politics? Do you have a person? So Darryl, do you want that person? Because do you want that person with another four years, Darryl?

Unknown Speaker:

Yes. So So Jerry, let me let me say, let me tell you, okay, yes, I

Jerry Malcolm:

do. But damn, I got these people stuttering today, Jonathan.

Jonathan Bing:

Hold on. Why I'm telling you, bro, but I'm telling you what's crazy. You're the

Jerry Malcolm:

matrix brother. You're gonna make your matrix Jonathan. Alright guys, because the way you good now you good now, John, you're good.

Jonathan Bing:

Okay. I was gonna say, Jerry, what's crazy here is he said, Yes. Trump, I've never had any political experience. And you know that he didn't understand the politics. So, Brock Obama was a Senator. Okay. And they said he, they called him a community activist. They didn't call him a senator. They call him a community activist and said that he shouldn't have it because you don't have he didn't have the gift, which call it the experience to be there. So, but Trump, you know, had no experience in politics, no experience in governance at all. And once again, that is a plus to Trump, where it was a negative to Barack Obama.

Unknown Speaker:

No, guys, guys, but let me lay on my plane. Jerry, let me land. Go ahead, brother. Yes, yours. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker:

So So here's why, though, because presidents he's an executive position, and it's about making decisions. Trump is good in that aspect. He's just horrible working with other people. And in America, when you're in government, you have to work with other people. That's not how Trump Lirael.

Jerry Malcolm:

But I got a call Darrell, Darrell, I got a pause. You know, we're just building you know, we're having a mid flight meal right now. So, so listen, you just said you just said he's not good working with people. But don't you have to be good at working with people in order to, you know, run a country?

Unknown Speaker:

Let me rephrase, you're not good. He's not I don't think he I don't think he's good. And in history,

Jerry Malcolm:

I'm trying to get DeRose perspective, who's that? He's a businessman. I grant dare I

Unknown Speaker:

don't think that Trump understands that you have to share the power, and that you don't know other people in especially in our government, like CIA when the FBI, Trump was like, You're gonna do what I say you're my agency. These people see when these people go through presidents, like you know, toilet paper. So when you have a yo Moeller, any of these guys, they've been in government like Fauci for so long, that when the President comes in, he's barely a blip on your radar. But when Trump comes in, he's like, Listen, I'm the president. I run companies. I'm here to run the country. And they're like, Nah, bro. That's not how this works. Like you understand the senator doesn't write the laws. We the age, write the laws, and the senator just sits up there. And he's our puppet. And Trumpton get that. So Jerry? Yes, I think he's a good president, because he's what we need to make good decisions. But he does not understand. But

Unknown Speaker:

let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. So are you saying that it's okay for a president to be a tyrant? Right. It's okay for a president not to know that there's separation of powers. Right? Isn't that what makes America America and not Russia?

Jerry Malcolm:

That's a Darrell. Darrell. Yeah, once again, once again, once again, I want to I want to get the audience involved right about now. I appreciate everybody for everything that was saying. And once again, I'm going to ask the audience at the bottom, I'm going to cut hand racing off and I'm going to reset it and turn it back on and every nobody raises their hand, I'm going to bring you up immediately. And I'm going to ask you to join the conversation. Chat is open, but it's going to only be open for another 10 minutes. I got 122 shares, click that little arrow thing up top with the shares. Let's get it to 200. And also, let's have another ping AThon and bring your friends into the room, ping your friends and bring them in. Is there anybody on the stage just joined in? They would like to join this conversation? If so I see a TC I got Adam. Anybody want to join in?

Unknown Speaker:

Carrie? It's Beth, I'd like to say something. Go ahead, Beth. Great question. Because it seems kind of comical to me that even if you happen to be, even if you happen to vote for the president that's in office right now, can you actually say that you're happy with what he's doing? And you're happy with the direction we're going? That you're still fighting for it? And I was laughing when Debbie was talking. I agree with her completely. Who is coming up and actually fighting and agreeing with what the President is doing right now? Even if you you voted for him? Aren't you kind of sorry that you did and don't you wish we had the other one back in office? I don't get it.

Jonathan Bing:

Oh, hell no, I don't. I probably would want that imbecile back. Meanwhile, we want Trump back in office. Are you serious? Why would we want Trump back in all you know what you guys? You guys are right now. You all you wouldn't be in war right now. Okay.

Unknown Speaker:

Are you kidding? Okay.

Unknown Speaker:

Keep your guys

Jonathan Bing:

come on. Now. The gas price docks.

Unknown Speaker:

Jonathan, this is one that. Hey, Christina,

Jonathan Bing:

why not? Why not? Go ahead with that.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, Jonathan, thank you so much for the opportunity. Now, before I even say what I'm going to say, I am not a pro Trumper. I am not a pro Biden. I want to judge each of them equally. However, there are some serious questions in regards to the election aspect of it. When we're talking about all of the mail in ballots form. We're also talking about the spike in the voting at the middle of the night, went all the way straight up, when statistically that's not even possible. But when we're talking about having Trump back in office, I know a lot of people did not necessarily like some of the things that were coming out of his mouth and the rhetoric. However, I can turn that aspect of it off. What I can't turn off is these high gas prices. What I can't turn off is the fact that we are in the middle of a war right now. But the challenge is this, we have to also critically think and look at these situations when we're saying who behind the scenes could have done this better. The third, there are a lot of people behind the scenes that are a part of all of these other organizations when we talk about I know the New World Order or any of that these things are actually there. So at the end of the day, yes, I would rather have Trump in office than Biden with

Jonathan Bing:

a one. Okay, when I have a question for you, okay, because you just said something someone else said that you guys explained to me what war we are in because you guys said we're at war, and we wouldn't be at war. So what are we in guys?

Unknown Speaker:

What I'm talking about? The war on terror that hasn't been shut down the war on

Jonathan Bing:

terror? Rob, Rob Brown Come on, bro. mute your mic. Okay. Because that that dumb shit you just said don't even make sense. Okay, and we go there you went to my war on terror. I started back in Bush were attacked in 911. So no, don't do that, bro. Okay, no, no, no, that's not

Jerry Malcolm:

gonna look at this PTR before you talk. Look at that. PTR

Jonathan Bing:

now we're not at war but ro ro.

Jerry Malcolm:

I hope you're good shooter. So you don't mean?

Jonathan Bing:

One second. Like I said, when you say something that doesn't make sense. We're not at war. And then we try to justify it with some bullshit that just makes you look even more ridiculous. And I know anything that comes out of your mouth is gonna be bullshit. Are you speaking to me? Give me a grant. What do you say and grant?

Grant Cardone:

Why you say do you live on planet Earth?

Jonathan Bing:

Yeah, I'm definitely on planet Earth. So tell me what what we're right now. Grant.

Grant Cardone:

You don't consider the people in Russia and Ukraine brothers and sisters.

Jonathan Bing:

Grant grant where are we are we are where is the United States involved in the war? What war are we in right now?

Unknown Speaker:

We're involved every day since Mitchell to financial war. 330

Grant Cardone:

million people in America are being affected by what's happening on this planet. Okay. How can you say we're not in a war because

Jonathan Bing:

we're not in the war grant people?

Grant Cardone:

What do you mean bro?

Jonathan Bing:

We're not in a war. We're not going to war

Grant Cardone:

Excuse me, can I just say a few things DJ Cut the shit. Interest rates are up. Wages are flat. Gases up crude oils up. Real estate prices are up taxes are going up. The dollar is going down. There's a war going on right now where people real people, Jonathan, are getting killed. Okay, military equipment is being utilized at levels that we haven't seen in what, two or three years, four years. Finally, first little break we've had from a war. And you're telling me we're not at war?

Jonathan Bing:

No, we're not at war. Yes, we are. Because, once again, once again, we are just cultural war and everything else I was talking about.

Grant Cardone:

We were at war. We are at war. We're talking about war. They're sending money to Ukraine. We've sent almost $80 billion already

Unknown Speaker:

to Adam.

Unknown Speaker:

His brothers fighting the war. That's not us.

Grant Cardone:

You have Hey, man, send a fucking penny to another event on this planet. You're involved

Unknown Speaker:

in it? Thanks, Grant. That's

Unknown Speaker:

right. Danger. Remember, Trump brought home ASAP Rocky. Let's see if Biden can bring home the basketball player Brittany. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, she brought up What the

Unknown Speaker:

hell are you talking about?

Jerry Malcolm:

That has nothing to do with this, bro. Come on now. Speak on it the Goddess. It has nothing to do with what do you mean? What do you want to dress to him? I mean, I mean, she she got caught with marijuana trying

Unknown Speaker:

to he got caught breaking the law too. I think you can't bring your citizens home from allegedly,

Unknown Speaker:

allegedly

Unknown Speaker:

and it was CBD oil. Get your facts right.

Unknown Speaker:

Don't forget the ball family also got caught breaking the law and Trump helped get them out of

Unknown Speaker:

that car. So let's see if

Jerry Malcolm:

we can forget. Nobody, nobody still answered the question I posed earlier. Nobody answered the question. Okay. We're not talking about how good policy was he wasn't talking about all of that. There must have been some type of mastermind behind this. Who was the mastermind? If he lost? That's all I was asking. Jordan

Unknown Speaker:

opinion, who made

Jerry Malcolm:

him lose? No. It was some people that had facts earlier. I was just wondering what the facts facts people are.

Unknown Speaker:

Have you heard of those two names? No.

Jerry Malcolm:

I just heard of them just now. Well, you should

Unknown Speaker:

look into them a lot more than just hearing about it now. So think.

Jerry Malcolm:

Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Explain to me since you since you mentioned those names with 700 people in the room. Give us give us data and as to why he lost because of those two people's use name. Are you are you just regurgitating stuff? Because you heard it somewhere? No,

Unknown Speaker:

she has to go back to Fox News

Unknown Speaker:

and read it swab. And George Soros.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, you just said that.

Unknown Speaker:

The cific means you act here. Give us specifics. Debbie, you have not once given us

Unknown Speaker:

the means you actually tell

Unknown Speaker:

us the facts and tell us how George Soros actually impacted the election.

Jerry Malcolm:

You're one second brother, bro. Bro. Bro. Once like everybody mute their mic. Everybody mute their mic. Listen, everybody, please mute your mic is a lot of noise. Debbie, did you land your plane? Because I know you probably felt like you got Debbie. No, no one second one once. Wait one second.

Jonathan Bing:

I'm talking about Debbie, Debbie. We're

Jerry Malcolm:

going to be fair to you. I want to hear it. I want to hear come out of your mouth. How did those people stop the election for him? How did they do it? Just go ahead. Everybody. mute your mic over here.

Unknown Speaker:

When you have money, you can do whatever the hell you want. I don't know. So who

Jerry Malcolm:

had more money Biden or Trump? I do know I think I know Grant Cardone

Unknown Speaker:

way bigger than Biden and Trump. Rothschild. This is Klaus Schwab. This is George Soros.

Jerry Malcolm:

That sounds cool. But that's what you don't understand is this. Let me tell you y'all ever seen. Yeah. Let me know what y'all are doing right now. She's making some statements that's actually accurate about some big time people that y'all are agreeing with. But it doesn't mean it's in sync or congruent. We're talking about with those big time people. So all your Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker:

Because you're asking me who am I say something?

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, thank you, Debbie. Go ahead. Thank you, Debbie. Go ahead, miss. I'm going to appreciate you Greg. Miss. Hi, Jerry.

Unknown Speaker:

This is Erica. And I just want to say I was an election official for 12 years. And the statements that Debbie are making and the other people supporting that the election was rigged. You guys really harmed democracy, because you don't have faith enough to know that voters had their say at the polls and make logical and passionate decisions about who they want it to run the country. It is virtually impossible. To rig an election, on so many levels, there are so many parts to an election, that it would really really have to be sophisticated. And I'm a person who ran an election board. So I want to shout out the election board people because their integrity has been constantly under attack with people who want to believe that the election was rigged.

Unknown Speaker:

At 12 years, y'all still got

Jerry Malcolm:

one second one, one second, one second one second, who said they want to ask a question, and I'll go after this person, Augustus. Before you do ice I need I need everybody in the room. Do me a favor, done. Here's the thing. No, no, here's the thing. I have several unmuted mics, all I have to do is press move to audience to stop it. But I don't want to do that. I'm going to ask you once again, to please mute your mics. They're making noise that you guys aren't aware they're just making while other people are speaking. Ice. Go ahead and say what you're going to say Augustus, you're up next Ice.

Unknown Speaker:

They elect the election official? Yes or No? Were they allowing people who are not registered voters, and we're not able to prove that they will even citizens, given the ability to register to vote on a spot and vote?

Unknown Speaker:

What state are you speaking?

Jerry Malcolm:

Once I get once, one second before you Miss Miss, miss? Just one second? Just one second? I got a question for you. Yes, sir. Let's see if that's true. Let's see if that's true. I do me a favor. Repeat the question. You just said one more time to Lady repeated the exact same way you just say don't remix it just say exactly what you said there

Unknown Speaker:

are individuals who were not registered to vote, and did not have proof of citizenship allowed to register to vote on the spot. Okay, got a vote,

Jerry Malcolm:

let's say, let's say if that is true. Let's say if that is true. Why does it seem like people aren't realizing that it still took people to vote. And it still was much more people that voted for Biden, as opposed to Trump even if that argument is true. Erica, it's true. I'm not saying shoes is just a question Erica. Glad Erica.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay. So the law is that you don't have to provide identification and many states, but

Unknown Speaker:

they say citizenship, proof of

Unknown Speaker:

citizenship would be ID what? You don't have to provide your birth certificate to register to vote did you provide?

Unknown Speaker:

are you answering my question? If you did, so you're answering my question. And, ma'am, yes, you're answering my question. If an individual who shows up to them, shows up to vote and has no ID and you don't hold on, you're talking over me. And you do not prove that you're a citizen. And you say I want to register to vote. And I want to vote for Biden right now. And they're like, Sure, register right here and vote right here.

Unknown Speaker:

That's called a provisional ballot, and that ballot is not counted immediately. So that is not even a factor. It would not even go into this count on elect. How many foreign nationals Do you really think we're out there? Thank you. I was right. Not a million millions, millions of millions of illegal aliens voted. Is that what you're implying? Because it sounds ridiculous. But you don't know.

Unknown Speaker:

It's also assuming it's also a

Jonathan Bing:

sewer moment with almost any foreign national guys, I just want to put it out there any foreign national that voted, they lose their eligibility to ever become a citizen in this country, they lose that matter of fact, if they're a permanent resident, they lose that status as well. Okay, so I get what you're saying, man, but it doesn't make sense. I want to say one last thing to before I toss it back to Jerry and Miss Erica McCoy is that there's been one instance of a politician stealing an election, it was a Republican, and it was in North Carolina. And it was a very egregious death. So you guys are talking about stealing elections. There's only been one instance of a politician actually stealing an election, and it happens to be a Republican. So guys, be careful when you guys are putting this out there because and hold up, whatever the Republicans talk about election stuff. You know what they do? They always bring that case up, even though it's a Republican, and it's crazy, that Republicans, they take no accountability for anything they do. And anything that has happened, and they continue to go on. Matter of fact, they vote against things and they tell people I got it. I got a buddy. Everybody's one second. They voted good stuff. And then they tell people hey, you guys, you guys don't care about the military. But yet you guys are voting against bills for the military. So you guys are having it both ways right now. Okay, you guys are having to both ways you guys aren't bullshit. Okay? And then things when once we get past you guys take credit for it, but you guys don't vote for it. Alright, so

Jerry Malcolm:

Johnson, Johnson, you going in and out. That's why I was trying to you go ahead and out, bro. Go ahead want one moment? One moment everybody please, everybody please mute your mic. I'm gonna go to Erica. And then after Erica goes, I don't think I went to you, Augustus. I don't think I did. But after Erica Europe next Gus is glad.

Unknown Speaker:

As far as a melon ballot goes, you have many more mail in ballots that are rejected and not counted, then you had that or suspected are counted. So people to say that the mail in ballot process was ineffective and that people died voted, you are absolutely wrong. There are so many checks and measures in place. If a person dies and their Mellon ballot was received. And as an election official, we get a list of people who die. That ballot is not counted.

Jerry Malcolm:

Eric, I got a question for you. Erica. I got a question for you. Erica. Is it possible that more people came out and record droves? And in spikes? Is it possible? Because this is the biggest This is? You got to mute your mic? When is it possible? Because this was the biggest time in in presidential history or of election in favor? The masses of people want one person absolutely possible. Erica, is it possible that really happened? It is very

Unknown Speaker:

possible the spike in election started actually with Obama, people became very politically aware when the black man ran. And since then the in the interest and elections have gained a spike, especially when it came to Trump and his running. And you know, I won't even get into his diabolical genius. But anyway, people are more interested now than they have ever been. Okay. But they're only interested when it comes to the presidential level. You look at local levels local level interest.

Jerry Malcolm:

Appreciate you Erica cuz I want to I want to get back to my guy for saying Well, thank you for your input and Erica, um, you know, Augustus before I go to you, I would I don't understand why. You know, if you really rockin with with him so much, why don't you guys just saying you know what, we like him, but he'd say some dumb shit. And that's why he really lost because he can't keep his damn mouth shut. And he says such stupid stuff. Like, the election is rigged. Like, I'm not gonna leave office. They're gonna do y'all remember that? Or they forget that. I'm not gonna leave. Y'all remember that?

Unknown Speaker:

collective memory.

Jerry Malcolm:

Right, right. Ah, COVID is fake is gonna go away. I'm smarter than all the generals. Do you know how many people look? Look, watch this. You guys are on stage and debate the news. I love you all, you know, we all debate news, we going back and forth. It's okay. But we're looking at it differently. But there's a group of people out there in this world, that when you someone says, See wherever debating, but we may not care about the war as much as some other people really do in real life. So when somebody comes and says, I'm smarter than all the generals, they're dumb, they don't know nothing. And he actually fires them. Some of them that was under Republican leadership before there was there was put an office because of Republicans. Do y'all know how that affects people? Go ahead, Augustus.

Unknown Speaker:

Thank you for that. Now, it's interesting, because again, you look at more as a phenomenon was an interesting

Jerry Malcolm:

phenomenon. So that's it. So look, we got king king of the throne, basically, now we got phenomenon. Okay, go ahead.

Unknown Speaker:

But I read it in the sense that he was a unique expression of political power. Right? And that he wasn't treating. He's not traditionally. You know, politician. You're not even Republican. He was a Democrat, right? He used the Republican base, because they seem to be more susceptible to what he had to say. And I just want to kind of pivot to this. You know, people always say, what is it about Trump where today? He said some fucking stupid shit. Any real Trump supporter will tell you that right now. You see those people in January 6 that tried to storm the Capitol. They weren't Trump supporters. They don't know what the Trump fucking movements about those people. Those were fucking What do you call them? opportunists or, you know, possibly, right. Yeah. Fucking idiot. So I was gonna say the other word. Now. They want to Trump supporters. Any any true Trump supporter understands that there is a silent war taking place. Right. And I'm not talking about the q&a on people because, you know, for all ones, for intensive purposes, you know, let's just leave that alone. But I'm saying anybody who understands Yes, there are people who possess soft power your Klaus Schwab's of the world Bilderbergs, the World Economic Forum, who are talking about things like we need a great reset, we need to, you know, bring down what we perceived today, you know, capitalism and replace it with stakeholder capitalism, which really uses socialism, right? We have those people, right, those people, and then you have people who love the fact that they are sovereign, born sovereign and free. America. Now, I'm not American, I'm English. But we get, you know, we get we get all of your fucking programs we hear we get all of the culture flows over to us. Everything, you know, the dream is to be an American, right? Everybody screaming I want to be in America, we get all of that. Right. But then we look and we see. And there's one thing the American people are the most propagandize people who in the world, I think all of us, I think every single person propagandized. I think every single person is but it's like, the American people fucking alcohol. And so when people talk about the election being stolen, I happen to think that yeah, it's possible, the lady said before, you know, it would have to would have to have been a sophisticated set up, it doesn't mean that it's not possible, but you have to understand that the level of power that exists in this world, the amount of influence that money can buy today, and, you know, the way that people can set systems up, it's still possible it's like an Ocean's 11. But I'm not stupid enough to believe I'm not, you know, ignorant enough to not believe that he couldn't have just lost to

Jerry Malcolm:

Hey, once again, once again, TC, TC when I said the other day when I say when I say possible was the word you used again, TC pausable

Unknown Speaker:

plausible.

Jerry Malcolm:

Thank you. Thank you, DC. So Jerry, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I guess it's my brother is what TC speed TC with anything.

Unknown Speaker:

But is not plausible that the Democrats single handedly stole the first US election in the history of the US being in existence. Not even plausible. Why?

Unknown Speaker:

Why?

Unknown Speaker:

Why not? Why not?

Jerry Malcolm:

Wait, one second, Augustus. And once again, Augustus and TC are talking Augustus in TC Go ahead, Augustus. Because

Unknown Speaker:

you're kind of taking your point. You're saying this closable. But that's just your opinion. What do you know? That what do you know this? No, I'm telling you, you can't prove it.

Unknown Speaker:

Well, let me let me try. Why don't you let me?

Jerry Malcolm:

Wait TC TC, I can't wait, wait. I guess is let me do a quick reset for one second. I'm gonna do a quick, quick reset to UTC Augustus. Augustus. Listen to your argument, you when when TC said what he said? You said it's just his opinion. Is it not just your opinions are something different with what you're saying? Because it's Trump? Does it put in a different word? It's not called opinion, Grande, Augustus and TC.

Unknown Speaker:

Thank you. So the fact of the matter is I hadn't actually finished making my point. And if I were allowed to finish making my point, you would have heard what I was about to say. Now I'm saying that the whole thing that election was stolen, I get that I understand it. And I've seen evidence. I've seen the affidavits. I've heard the accounts. But of course we don't listen to people when they tell them they tell us their stories. their lived experience means nothing unless it's something along the lines of racism or abuse, right, then we start to listen to people. But if it's something like the election, or if it's COVID, you know, that was when a quarter reactions to to the vaccine. We don't listen to people all of a sudden, but as if me being what I'm trying to say change this, right. We know about the male imbalance. We've heard the stories. This is

Jerry Malcolm:

the first time this is the first time I think it guesses don't even know what he's saying.

Unknown Speaker:

But that we've had over that lesson, and I'm saying cool. It's still possible that Biden got more votes because people hate your trump. Cool. But to the ladies point, I'm talking about something more sophisticated, right? I'm saying maybe the word she's looking for isn't let the election being stolen, right. Maybe there was election interference by people who had the means to interfere like Facebook, who had the means to influence people to go and vote right. Like, like the the changing of certain laws, like do you know what I mean? It was all like Russia. Let's,

Jerry Malcolm:

let's pass it around. Let's pass it around. One moment, one, one moment, Miss one moment. I want. I need you mute your mic, brother. I need TC could I inject a TC in it? So I got to be fair, let TC land grant so

Unknown Speaker:

much. I haven't even taken off yet. But here we go. Uh, Gus is I understand you're not American, that you're British. But are you familiar with how the United States elections presidents in this country?

Unknown Speaker:

Please make your point so I could finish. I'm just curious

Unknown Speaker:

because you said that I could not prove to you that Biden was was the properly elected President. I'm just curious if you you even understand the construct of how we elect presidents in this country. If not, I'll advise you. The people actually go into the voting booth do not elect presidents in this country. It's actually electors. electors that are appointed electors in each state that vote for the president. And what we saw the entire nation saw was appointed electors from the state legislatures to cast their ballot, both for Donald Trump and for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Mike Pence. And when those electors these are constitutionally certified electors, and each state set up by the legislatures to cast those ballots, those are the only ballot that count. It's not Joe Blow from up the street is not you know, Joe Jackson around the corner what you're saying? Elect No, it's not a have a look at the Constitution. Do you have electors don't go at the ballot for the president united states and we also on live television one second, we also on live television, it wasn't behind the curtain. It wasn't in a booth. It was open in each state's electors cast their ballots, according to the state legislatures. And Joe Biden acquired the requisite number of electoral votes to win the presidency in the United States of America, the United States of America, regular people do not pass their ballot for president they cast their ballot for electors. But when people come on here, and they're completely ignorant and say, Joe Biden stole the election, because, you know, these people with no citizenship, hundreds of millions of them in California cast ballots for Donald Trump for Joe Biden, and it was illegal. You're ignorant to how the process works. Because those people were not while they were in turn voting. They weren't casting the constitutionally mandated ballot for president that happened through the electors and the electors or who vote for who did because

Jerry Malcolm:

I think they got that point about electro

Unknown Speaker:

represented

Jerry Malcolm:

that way once again, right, one second one second, everybody, I need one second. I want to thank you for that TC and Augustus. I just want to vote a few more people. It hasn't had, you know, new to this stage and haven't jumped in yet. Go ahead and go. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, real quick, real. One second. One second. One second. Mickey, Mikey, mute your mic for a second. Augustus? Of course. I'll let you respond. Go ahead, bro.

Unknown Speaker:

We can So my point was this right? What did I just say? Yeah, I can hear all of the election was stolen, nonsensical. I can hear that. I get it. I understand where people are coming from. But I'm saying to you, what if the election was not stolen by saying it's just a football in the in the language that's used? I'm saying, What if the election was interfered with, we heard from before,

Unknown Speaker:

what they were saying they said it was Donald Trump was earlier. It was stolen not

Unknown Speaker:

to show off, man, I'm still talking son. I'm saying at the end of the day, you're not you don't know what these people and how these people were influenced. So I'm saying, when we're talking about elections being stolen, you can talk to me about the electoral year. But you don't know what these people were structured? You don't know. And that's what I'm trying to say to you can never know that. And so when these people are saying what they're saying maybe just instead of

Jerry Malcolm:

a guy says I gotta just say some brother, wait one second. One second, I guess is if you're gonna make that argument. And you know, I'm just I'm just being air traffic controller. If you're gonna make that argument, you can make the same exact argument in favor of trouble against Hillary Clinton.

Unknown Speaker:

Who's you can? Of course you can and I agree with that.

Jerry Malcolm:

So what is what does it stop? But no,

Unknown Speaker:

I agree with that. Point. This is my point. For four years, people kept saying that the election was stolen from Hillary Clinton. But nobody bats an eyelid. Everybody just said to themselves Jericho, of course, you know, washer washer washer.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, okay. Do me a favor, do me a favor. Favor and clip who That dude is and kick him out of this room as fast as you ask. Who was it

Jonathan Bing:

they will kick ran out.

Jerry Malcolm:

Wherever that was, whoever that was kicked them out of this room right now. God damn it.

Jonathan Bing:

Oh, man, just bring this monster out.

Jerry Malcolm:

I was I didn't see grants. I didn't see

Grant Cardone:

guys. That was not me.

Jerry Malcolm:

I don't believe it was. Okay, go ahead. Can I get my opinion real quick?

Unknown Speaker:

Well, are y'all gonna correct them on how the electorial process works? Because he just said something that wasn't

Unknown Speaker:

Be my guest, bro. Be my guest. It'll be my Yes, please

Unknown Speaker:

listen, you but the way you said it as if those electors just get up one morning and they get to decide, no, they get there, right from the people who actually pull the levers at the pen True.

Unknown Speaker:

True, that's not true. There's only two states in the union that have a state constitutional law that dictates that the popular vote gets a majority of the electoral votes of that state. There's only two and they're in the know, the rest of the state. No, no, no, no, hear me out, hear me out. There's only two states that have a constitutional mandate. That's a law passed by the popular vote gets a majority of the electoral votes every other state in the union. It is there is no law that mandates those majeure, the majority of electoral votes that state goes to the popular vote and literally every state but in fact, what TC says is a perfect example of how elections can not only be interfered with but definitively dictated by the Electoral College based on whatever type of corruption or potential interference that could be. Yeah, that's a

Unknown Speaker:

valid argument you can make you can make that argument but that's not the argument Trump is making. He's not making that argument. He's making the argument that the Jose's and Diego's that are coming over from Mexico cast ballots, and they're not citizens, and that's how the election was stolen. He didn't lodge your argument that the electors stole the election

Unknown Speaker:

the argument he should have made what those million ballots was unconstitutional. And that's that's it that's that was

Unknown Speaker:

in the court, and it was found false

Unknown Speaker:

we'll see a nasty

Unknown Speaker:

nasty argument he's making he's making multiple arguments, but I see how you tried to make you know, the Latino people but

Unknown Speaker:

no, I didn't try to make it about the Latino people. Trump made it about the Latino people. Trump made it about the black people bro maybe you're not from this country. He's gonna understand the nuances that argument but when he says people in Philadelphia and Detroit and Atlanta stole the election he's not talking about lily white lady sitting around crocheting he's talking about crochet people bro you might not know so you stay in Britain bro. American politics in the US politics wars bro

Unknown Speaker:

so you're you're talking to me as if I don't have people over there equally is violent with their speeches yourself. You're not being informed by it but if you think you've got the authority to work for me then my friends also who were there have the authority to inform me politics This is

Jerry Malcolm:

No, no one second one second. Keep in mind everybody when two people are talking let them finish and let them land their plane because they had an interesting debate going. Did you guys land your plane on TC good?

Unknown Speaker:

I'm done. I'm done.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, appreciate you. tctc say crochet that was so fun. This is Mitch. But TC says something that needs to be addressed how to judges. Okay, once I get one second brother, you you said that a second ago. I gotta let some other new blood I'm gonna get back to you. But I got a big. I got a big queue. At Mitchell. I'm looking for a lady that wants to jump in after Mitchell. So Mitchell, go ahead. I'm looking for one of these women who want to jump in. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker:

Thank you. Thank you. So real quick. My opinion on this is it was the perfect storm that got Oh Biden and I'm for Trump. Okay. In the beginning, we saw everything on the TV. We saw this stuff. In 2020 hindsight, I believe that the perfect storm with what happened with George Floyd, the hate for Trump and COVID made everyone shift and get Trump out. Thank you.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, the hate for the hate for who? For Trump.

Unknown Speaker:

Right meaning there was the hate for Trump. There was the George Floyd issue that okay, and then the COVID the perfect storm. And

Unknown Speaker:

George Boyd happened after the election though. What are you talking about?

Jerry Malcolm:

Oh, it was cold, Jonathan. We got to keep an eye on TC he COVID It

Unknown Speaker:

was all together. It's a narrative that hasn't stopped us

Jonathan Bing:

really didn't happen after the George Floyd. happened today happen under Biden pregnancies. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Okay, so TCS co WiDi. Okay, what did you say the Black Lives Matter movement?

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, once like everybody one second? One second. One second. The only thing I don't I'm trying. I'm trying to overstand an inner stand is Gosh, and I'm really puzzled Johnson. I really mean it when I say

Jonathan Bing:

that Jerry was on May 25 2020 20. That happened.

Unknown Speaker:

That's about the actual death. He's talking about the protests.

Jonathan Bing:

protests happened when the death happened. Summer

Unknown Speaker:

the protests happened okay. Yeah, after the talk elected before

Unknown Speaker:

the election,

Unknown Speaker:

so that kids are in November for the presidency.

Jerry Malcolm:

Boy, y'all get joy out of

Unknown Speaker:

claiming that it's not a blame. I said it's the perfect storm. It's a philosophical consciousness. The Americans mind change whichever way the wind blows. Traffic. Excuse me. I'm in bumper to bumper traffic. There is no gas problem here. Let me tell you when there's a gas problem here in America, when it's 15 bucks a gallon. We've gotten used to spending five bucks a cup of coffee. I'm in the traffic for the last hour and a half. We got to to good in America, guys. God forbid we ever have to evacuate. I hope y'all got

Jerry Malcolm:

God, God, God forbid, God forbid. Let me tell y'all some if the if the internet goes out, watch what happens. People gonna lose their dog on mine. Okay, okay. But the thing I don't understand, and I keep going over now, I'm going to go to somebody new after this. I don't understand how somebody so potent, so good for the world. So this and that. I still don't understand how he lost. Even if it was some type of voter fraud. Let's call interference. I just don't see how the forces didn't just make sure. This Messiah one I just don't

Unknown Speaker:

point out the faulty logic and in some of these arguments as well, guys, you you guys, everybody that saying Oh, there's the illegals quarter. Election, that's to assume that every person that you quote unquote, are calling illegals or, or, or not nationals to this country. That's to assume that every single one of them voted for Biden. That's the fucking crazy part. You're not even leaving space or a margin of error saying, man, maybe he fucked up, right? Maybe maybe even had illegals voting for him. And he just fucked up so much that he woke up every single day of his presidency at four o'clock in the morning saying the stupidest shit you could imagine. And possibly just possibly, that she fucked his. His his possibility of a new of a new term up. Yeah, like this. It is. It's horrible. Like this faulty notion that somebody that just all these amazing votes came out of nowhere like that. Shit.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, that's exactly what happened once. One second one second. One second, bro. We gotta we gotta let that breathe for a second while we let that breathe. I'm remind y'all that you are in debate the news? Monday through Friday. Y'all know the new time three to 6pm. Pacific Standard Time, six to 9pm. Eastern Time. Follow the club, a little greenhouse at the top. membership has some privileges because there's some announcements coming real soon. Follow these moderators follow Mr. Jonathan Bing put the bell on. Follow me Jerry Malcolm put the bell on. Chat has been open much longer. And I said we're about to close chat for a moment because it's starting to glitch. So while chat is closed, how about you guys participate on the hallway? chubs. Can you close chat right now, you guys can participate in the hallway get us from 148 to over 200. Put your messages in that. And and the hallway. And for those of you this back telling me things which you want to say, I love getting messages, but I prefer you to come to the stage. Unmute your mic, and have a conversation with all these wonderful people. Thank you. And let's get back to debating the news. Who is next? I'm looking for a lady that has not had an opportunity to speak yet. Is there a lady that would like to speak? If not, I will go to the guys because they love speaking and I don't want to discussion. But I want to go to I want to go to my person. Tara. I

Unknown Speaker:

want to just tell everyone that this did this debate. The news is now a podcast.

Jerry Malcolm:

So I didn't want to go to her right now. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay.

Unknown Speaker:

Good to know, because your voice will be heard more than once. So please come up. All right.

Jerry Malcolm:

Thank you for that terror. I'm looking for somebody new that wants to jump in. I'm looking for somebody new. They want to jump into it did not have an opportunity to speak yet. I'm looking for someone new. Go ahead and jump in.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm ready to Hi Gary, can

Unknown Speaker:

I jump in?

Jerry Malcolm:

Hello. Yes, you can jump in broadly where you're after him. Okay.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, my name is Alex. I'm down here. So I was I was listening about the voting. I'm Mexican American. It's been my first time since I've been able to or well actually I just registered a vote for the first time. In Mexico. We all like they always require the ID, the photo ID to vote. And then once you vote, they like put some stuff on your finger so you don't vote again. Now here, I registered a vote. And so my brother did and we're like blocks away from the registration where I mean from the place where you go vote, you know what I mean? So like it's going They didn't even ask for my ID and I bro what happened? Well, they must they came a lot.

Unknown Speaker:

Am not a silent

Jerry Malcolm:

What do you call it? What do you call it? What do you call an agency that comes and gets you ice ice came and got a man you don't see ISIS on the stage bro you played yourself. Now you've got yourself to blame now that you have to have been gone.

Unknown Speaker:

incriminate. It's too

Jerry Malcolm:

late. They came and got him. Anybody else want to jump in? There was another guy who said he wanted to jump in. I was looking for late. Hey, Jerry. Hey, real quick. I'll let you go out the lady grant Edna.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, so what he's talking about is that HIPAA electoral, and in Mexico, it's something that you have a voter registration card, and you've got your ID, it's fingerprinting everything else. And you must show it before you vote. And so I think what

Jerry Malcolm:

he was, oh, yeah, yeah, we got that. We got that part. Yeah, it's so different,

Unknown Speaker:

you know, to the whole Trump thing. You know, it's not easy to do the job that he was doing, under constant scrutiny of the media, constant attack from all sorts of places I'm not saying it wasn't deserved. I'm not saying that he didn't open his mouth and say some stupid shit. He did. But you know, he would they try to impeach him on multiple, multiple occasions. They weren't really cooperating with him. He had a very difficult job to do. And the constant attack from the media was just relentless. What

Jerry Malcolm:

makes you what makes you frame it that way? It's so it's like, like I said, once again, let me just say this let me say to one second, I know but but but if somebody puts themselves in a predicament, just like some people in clubhouse always gets drama in their rooms. Some people keep getting rooms made about them. Some people they build their rooms by talking about somebody else and you know, and they get scrutinized for that a Mickey you gotta mute your mic, brother. You listen guys. Y'all got alright. People get scrutinise is the media and all these people talking about him? Because he's literally flaming the fire himself. I mean, is he the one saying crazy stuff? I don't understand what people talking about the meeting said when he's the one come with this site, crazy stuff, this media, regurgitating what he said?

Unknown Speaker:

Well, I mean, I'm not saying that what he was saying is correct. Like I said, there was times that he spoke out of his ass. But at the end of the day, the scrutiny under which these talking points of all of these media outlets, were relentless. I don't see the same vigor and relentlessness against this current administration. And this dude is bad. Like on day one. The reason we're the reason this crisis either

Jerry Malcolm:

Well, Brother speak on it, that's my whole point was you don't get that's my point.

Unknown Speaker:

But what about Barak Obama? Let me let me touch let me touch upon the gas. Up at the top, it says gas

Jerry Malcolm:

use going down what now you just just just finishing your last point land because we're gonna stay on that for a second finish. Finish your last point and land on that point.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay. The point I'm making is that this administration has made some very terrible decisions. And they're not being called out by the media, they get a pass if Trump did some of the stuff that Afghanistan I mean, there's so many things that this administration has done, and they don't get called out, they get a pass. And so they're not just with the same with the same rigor, and that is very unfair. And so they're painting a picture so that people can have extra animosity and hate towards one administration versus the other to give their opinions.

Jerry Malcolm:

Right, right. But the problem is, wait, wait, where's it got it? Thank you for that and listen, the prop. The problem is, I just don't, I just don't get it. I can never understand about this particular individual. I just do not get it. I get wait one second. inboxing Canella canillo Alvarez nobody really hates the name. He's a very, very good boxer. Right. Floyd Mayweather has the best boxing record in the history of boxing. He gets hate on so much not because of his color. So it's not a race thing I'm about to say it's because of how much smack smack Messi talks you know, I'm the richest I'm this I'm that he you know, money may he just flops money. So he gets talked about his people that cannot wait till he loses. And that's the media. He doesn't even get endorsements. Like like fighters is like not even his level because of his mouth. Trump is getting hated on the media because of his mouth. What is wrong with y'all imagine is humbling, quite just mad. He didn't talk that much. He wouldn't get on like that. So listen, I'm gonna bring it into somebody else that was waiting to speak that said that it was next. And I and I pivot away from that person who was next.

Unknown Speaker:

It was me. She was wrong about the pain and narrative. Trump does a tear

Jerry Malcolm:

Leroy, you got to mute your mic, brother. One second. One second. This is last. I'm gonna tell everybody. When y'all want to speak, y'all keep your mic muted. I'm not gonna say no, I'm just gonna put you in the audience. I need y'all to keep your mic. Speedy. Go ahead, brother.

Unknown Speaker:

This is justice by the way. His mouth, and anybody had issue with him? He would say shit that bothered people. And it put him under a magnifying glass. Biden get he doesn't flip the shit already. Everybody knows that. But what is he doing? He stay shut about it. And then there's other things going around a country that people are more favorable news, things that they talk about. So that's why Trump gets magnified. Because you'll be saying dumb shit. And everybody addresses it. And it becomes a flashlight in the media, as we're biting. Everybody knows it's gonna be a one term presidency. But he's not out here, putting his foot further in his mouth for anybody to see.

Unknown Speaker:

Can I? Can I say something really quickly? What's your name? This is This is Erica, again. We forget that when Trump first got into office, he had favorable media. He really did. It wasn't until his actions started making everybody aware that he was a loose cannon. And then the media started to change. That was not the initial reaction when Trump came in. So it was fully on his watch that the media turned against him because he turned against everybody. He started just being so outside of the realm of what a president should have been. That it Sandra,

Jerry Malcolm:

mute your mic. I'm not to put you in the audience. You're making noise. I need you to mute your mic. Go ahead, Miss I'm sorry.

Unknown Speaker:

And and to backdrop, when Russia interfered with the election with Trump and Hillary Clinton, and that was known three years prior to the election even taking place. We were on high watch and elections. And we were told that they were not going to affect the election, but they were trying to influence the election. And if you look it up, it was not just the United States that Russia interfered with he they also interfere with other country elections. Hey, so thank you. Okay, thank you, Jerry. Appreciate you. Alright. Gary, you

Unknown Speaker:

say you wanted ladies? Can I speak please?

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, yes, you can. Okay. Thank you. What's your name?

Unknown Speaker:

This is nk. Okay, Jonathan. Hi, everyone. demodulators Thank you for having this room. I do want to say that

Jerry Malcolm:

how come you don't follow the clever me and Jonathan?

Unknown Speaker:

I will do that right now.

Jerry Malcolm:

Because I'm just being honest with you, it feels a lot better to let people speak that follows. This supports the club and you know, you know, especially I'm such a big Q I want to be

Unknown Speaker:

following you and I were like, if you follow me back?

Jerry Malcolm:

No, no, I'm just saying it's more fair that we just keep it to the, to the supporters of the of the room in the club and but going I'll let you grant grant, you don't have to follow me grant.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, no, I just wanted to say that the worst thing in non victim can do is play victim. Um, so to have like, literally, we talking about people, we're talking about people, you know, Trump being a victim. And he's very nonsensical. Because Obama, as much as I don't like that person. He was the worst victim, person victimized person by male and people even though they voted for him. They hated on him on to the data, he left office. So Trump is not a victim. Trump was put in office, and he wasn't qualified for the job. Let's be honest. Yes, someone might get an opportunity to actually do a job, but he wasn't qualified for the job. And then he has a lot of mouth. So that makes a lot of people hate that person. You know, we know that this person in office is not doing a good job. But we are taught to respect our elders. So I guess some people are really being really respectful of their elders, by not hammering on this person who is in office, but that doesn't mean that any one of them is our saviors, because they have shown they are just about self interest. were weird. We live in a capitalist society and as long as as soon as we start accepting that this is a capitalist society, and is always going to be self interest before it is, you know, the whole interest, the sooner we the masses, we actually know exactly what we need to do for ourselves. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Okay, this is right.

Unknown Speaker:

grantley Right. Okay, so it is my take on the whole thing, right without the emotion. So, Trump was like an enigma. Right? He kind of did something wrong. illusionary when he came in office, initially, Trump was going to be the so when he came in office, he had two choices. And the first choice, he was going to be loyal to the establishment to the status quo, right. But Brandon, Bannon, Bannon and the in the white nationalist and all the Confederacy that you saw on January 6, he went inside it with a go against the establishment side. So he picked aside he chose so on January 6, you see all that confederate flag, white nationalists and that whole period, he showed that he was not going to cooperate with the establishment and the establishment as the Republican the democratic system along with the with the corporate with a corporate oligarchy who runs government. So Trump made a choice. Just because y'all like the way he talks. See, the reason why those people don't have a problem with the way he speaks. Is because they speak like that. That's his people. All those people love that shit. They see that as a as an opportunity to do exactly that, which is destroy both establishment. So Trump drew line. He looked at that he showed you every every look at his consistent work. Everything he did was drawing the line. He went to he went to go cross the line to see a jumped on woman, whatever his name is, he did stuff like that. He showed that he had more love for Russia than the country. So he drew a line he wanted to get he wanted to be and re expand anybody.

Jerry Malcolm:

Anybody wants to beat him. Cisneros. This is just not true. Wait, wait, go ahead, man.

Unknown Speaker:

So first of all, before I debate him, the woman that spoke before that, you said that that that Donald Trump was not qualified for the job, but

Unknown Speaker:

I didn't say Obama No, you didn't

Unknown Speaker:

say you said Obama was not

Unknown Speaker:

Obama. So Obama has never even run a lemonade stand. He was a one term senator. How in the world would know how to record we had no record. I have no record of education. Guys, can I speak? This is crazy

Unknown Speaker:

bullshit.

Unknown Speaker:

Wait, wait, hold on. So tell me how Obama was more qualified. qualified as a one term senator.

Jerry Malcolm:

Wait one second. Wait, wait, wait wait wait review.

Unknown Speaker:

He did community activities

Jerry Malcolm:

in one city? Like for one time wait one second. One second. Wait, Mary Merrick once I get married one second once I can't marry you don't think him being a state senator made him more qualified than a real estate developer.

Unknown Speaker:

A billionaire. A billionaire that's run that like trust

Jonathan Bing:

so because are you kidding?

Unknown Speaker:

National no international experience. He had absolutely nothing to do anything about he'd never been. She's always going. Alone. You guys are no no, no, this is not about going.

Unknown Speaker:

Every night you. I just

Unknown Speaker:

want to time and you sound like a reasonable person. Right now. Yes.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay. So tell me how. Tell me how

Unknown Speaker:

to impress people with the money said about work ethic and who they are is

Jerry Malcolm:

one second one second one second. Everybody. Everybody mute your mic. Everybody means like, a a brother to keep saying let them talk. You're actually making experience worse when a third person's come in. It's not as bad when two people are talking. But when a third person person jumps in Salem talk, you're making it worse. Please do. What

Jonathan Bing:

did you hire me as a moderator? Oh, Jerry.

Jerry Malcolm:

That's why well, no, I didn't hire him as a moderator. But But Jonathan, so Mary, feels Mary feels that Obama. I mean, the the Trump was more qualified than Obama because he was a billionaire.

Jonathan Bing:

No, that that. That's the first of all,

Unknown Speaker:

can I be able to speak? Thank you.

Unknown Speaker:

Everybody will just give me a second. You're talking about somebody that's run multiple businesses all over the world who has negotiated deals all over the world? Who has literally like wrote The Art of the Deal? When I was 18 years old? I read that book. I mean, like you're saying because he was in charge of the Harvard newspaper you think that that makes something like to be president the law review I had no experience. I had no job.

Jonathan Bing:

Mary, I don't see that. So you say um, first and foremost, Mary, and I did this earlier. Okay. Oh, we all these businesses. Are you saying Trump rant? Right there all all those businesses, all of them? Most of them for the most part fail Trump Steaks, Trump University Trump, you know, airline Trump mortgage. So there's a list of failure.

Unknown Speaker:

Failures for

Jonathan Bing:

Mary, I let you speak, Mary. Mary did analogy speaker. Okay. Well, Mary, one second, guys, one second. Let me let you speak. So I'm gonna let you speak afterwards. Okay. So now, when you start talking about, again, Trump had no experience at all. I got government, okay. He came in, and he did everything incorrectly. Everything. All right. And now you're saying that he has more experience because he when he was a billionaire, he said, that doesn't make sense. He was actually to me. He had no he. Obama had what he ran for the Senate. He won. Okay. He governed for a couple years here. Okay. He was also in that he was also locally elected as a senator. Congressman, that's all he's got. Okay, no, no. Okay. But okay.

Jerry Malcolm:

One moment, one moment, one moment, listen, listen, everybody. Listen. Let me do me a favor, everybody. If it gets out of hand, I'm just gonna say one moment. So if I do that, if y'all can just chill. Yes, I

Jonathan Bing:

can. Absolutely let you let go. Mary, I want to hear what you have to say. Good, Mary.

Unknown Speaker:

So I think at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is people's accomplishments, right? Is that to me, that's what matters. So I would love to know there's nothing emotional about it. How Obama could possibly have been qualified to even be the president knighted states with one term like, just Oh, yeah, can you just let me speak please, because I really, I won't interrupt you. This is what he accomplished things 7 million new jobs. Okay, more than three times what they expected. Every family had an increase of $6,000 more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration. The unemployment rate reached 3.5% the lowest in 50 years at 40 months in a row with more job openings and job hirings. More Americans reported being unemployed than ever being

Jerry Malcolm:

married married man we don't need to hear a resume right now because mostly probably the only accurate we don't we don't need your resume. It's literally I know but we still don't need we don't need your resume right now. Because if everything you say is 1000 Other things you can counter

Unknown Speaker:

million people came off food stamps and for Africa the unemployment for women hit its lowest in 70 years lifted 7 million

Jerry Malcolm:

Mary I'm gonna pivot to somebody else if you want to stay in a resume if you want to stay in a resume like if you want to stay in a resume when somebody else can we don't

Unknown Speaker:

that's what it's about it's not about whether you like

Unknown Speaker:

it you still can still campaigning and you got to stop it that's not what it is this right now. She

Unknown Speaker:

She said that he was he was not

Unknown Speaker:

here to fat real quick

Jerry Malcolm:

so one second one second one second one second one second everybody a brother he says she don't We don't want to hear the facts. So just because she said that so anything that would have came out of Mary's mouth not saying it wasn't but just because she's saying it in favor, whatever fits your narrative. We're just supposed to take it all in.

Unknown Speaker:

It's literally on Terry they weren't bad they are all

Unknown Speaker:

ugly that he was a great businessman because you need anything else that will qualify more to Obama to run the country

Unknown Speaker:

Furthermore, I'm the president of Black Lives Matter 757 as well as a business owner in running a business is completely opposite indifferent and running the entire country.

Unknown Speaker:

No, it's nothing is a corporation

Unknown Speaker:

Yes. Yeah, but but he wasn't

Jerry Malcolm:

he wasn't run okay, one sec. Everybody. This sounds like a cat fight right now. Just one sec. Everybody. Really? No, it sounds like a literally a cat fight of backboard bickering over I mean, I'm saying four or five people at the same time. So listen, we got record guys, we got a record or record inflation record jobs. Now we're talking about Trump, which is cool. Anybody else want to jump in? State your name all mixed up on stage a little bit. I want to go to our boy Hello, everyone. Once

Unknown Speaker:

again, when I said when I said that?

Jerry Malcolm:

I did. Miss Miss do me a favor. Nick, Nick, Nick. Nick, do me a favor. I just got to just kind of go to somebody. Just one second because you know, matrix anyway. Somebody want to jump in? Real quick. Let

Unknown Speaker:

me talk about what you talked about originally named

Jerry Malcolm:

her. Can we one second? One second. What do you want to say about war?

Unknown Speaker:

Well, first of all, someone mentioned earlier that we are not at war. And I would suggest that according to Marine Corps War is the conflict between two opposing wills. And there's four aspects of that is called dime. Right diplomatic industry. Real military education. And I would say we're at least at two or three of those already. So I would go with Grant and say that we are at war, we need be sophisticated enough to understand that war is just not the firing of bullets. There's a zero phase, which is before and there's a phase four, which we're not really good at. But America is at war with his opponents. And we need to take that seriously. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, Jerry, this is Adam. I want to double up on that if it's possible. Go ahead, Adam. Not only not only that, but if you have to look at war, you look at warfare from a multitude of different fronts, cyber warfare, economics, economical warfare, geopolitical, like every aspect of warfare is not just about guys on the ground pulling triggers, there's a multitude of different aspects of warfare. In fact, if we're not at war, the primary question would be, why are we getting attacked regularly with cyber warfare in the cyber front? If we're not at war? Why don't we constantly have intelligence operations and intelligence operatives against us inside the United States as well as our interests around the world? The United States has been at war for a very long time, the world in general has been at war for a very long time, and it's not going away. If anything, it'll only get worse. But to say that we're not at war isn't of itself just not a truthful statement.

Jonathan Bing:

Okay, let me let me let me jump in here. Hold on one second, because all of you trumped all you Trump riders. I'm not gonna call you a kind of riders. All you Trump riders. All you guys have said is we Trump didn't get us into any new wars. We haven't gotten any new conflicts. Okay. All right. We wait with Trump. Okay, you guys swore up and down. We weren't at war. Wait.

Unknown Speaker:

You guys, you voted for Trump.

Jonathan Bing:

One second. Well, no, I'm talking about the people that are talking right now. No. No, no, hold on, hold on. Okay, so once again, guys. No, actually, I'm not a Trumper. Okay, I'm not a Trump er, okay. Now, so I voted the first time who I voted for the second time I made sure I didn't vote for Trump. So let's just put it that way. So let me just say this right here. You guys are always saying that he didn't get us into a new wars this or that? Oh, we wouldn't be at war. If Biden was if Trump was here. How the hell you guys saying we wouldn't be at war with Trump was in office, right? In the same breath. You're saying that we're at war because of Biden, even though we're not fighting anyone?

Unknown Speaker:

We might have

Unknown Speaker:

money in our pocket?

Jonathan Bing:

No. See, now now we might have been at war. Now you clean it up how to hell, you're gonna have your cake and eat it too.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm out. Let me answer the question for you. The question actually, is this. How are we not in any new wars. And that's the crucial word that you're using in the statement. In fact, I spent 17 years in the military and a majority of that time, the Special Operations community have started all over the world. I've served in the Defense Intelligence Agency. So when I say if I say Trump didn't get us into any new wars, I'm talking about new conflict originated conflict that was already in action and conflict that continues to carry through his conflict that's not new. It's continuous

Jonathan Bing:

to how to buy and get us into His warning. How do we open the road? How to Buy a war?

Unknown Speaker:

That's a great question. Let me answer that question. Yeah, yes, no. So

Jonathan Bing:

you so you can answer both ways. Okay, go ahead.

Unknown Speaker:

100%. Again, 100%. I can't because it's not it's not black and white. This is not a black and white answer. Everybody wants to talk about black and white about how this and how that geopolitics is great as hell. And anybody who thinks it's different is wrong. It's straight up gray. Let me give you an understanding real quick. One, the powerful people and powerful nations respond to other power. And when you project power around the world, and you keep your adversaries guessing, they don't want to take an action that might lead them down a road that's going to have a significant negative impact. The very first thing by did when he stepped in the office was shut down oil production United States, what was the net?

Jonathan Bing:

What's that? 30 seconds because, yeah, get himself out of this. Let's go,

Unknown Speaker:

oh, sorry. I'll try and go fast. The United States was a next a net exporter of oil. As soon as he shut that down, we gave an upper car to Russia, Russia became a net importer, the United States with regards to how we received oil, which took away our oil independence and energy independence. That's step one, step two, immediately, immediately, there's a pullback of operations and a pull back from Afghanistan to withdraw from Afghanistan. Russia, Afghanistan was a debacle, but it showed definitive weakness and a lack of military logistics and strategy in this tournament.

Jonathan Bing:

Okay. Okay, now, let me just say this right here because once again, I we're, we're not at war, okay, right now, but you guys are literally saying we're at war. Okay. We were at war when Trump was in an office, but we weren't at war because it wasn't a new conflict. Once again, and once again, you're talking about both sides of your mouth, bro. I mean, anyone who stayed I mean, do you guys see that logic and what he's saying I see how illogical what he's saying is happening when we what's? Up See me? Let's go she be one of my guys. She be Let's go.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, so first of all, you know, to all my fellow CB Yes. Can

Jonathan Bing:

you hear me? Yes, go. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker:

All my fellow, you know, military personnel arms. I definitely understand I definitely understand what you say we're still at war. But what Jonathan is talking about is a declared war. All right, that's been approved by the senators and stamped off by the President of the United States. That's what he's talking about. So mentally, I know where we are with it. But he's talking about we're not under a declare war. All right, at the end of the day, that's what it's about. Now, circling back to this Trump situation, how we even got down this rabbit hole. Lord knows, I don't I don't even know. But, you know, it's funny that, you know, we we, we look past the fact that, you know, he says that the election was stolen. Okay, great. Let's just say that it was stolen, how come nobody his party was able to stop it from from being stolen? You know, we say that United States is a corporation, it's a business, where's that loss prevention team that that could have prevented that from happening? Alright. In my opinion, the Republicans did a great job, they stood on code, they made sure they represented him, as long as he represented the party. As soon as he wasn't good for the party, just like any good business person on the stage, if you hire somebody that's not being productive, you're going to find a way to help them get out and all the time, you don't have to be the one to push, push the button, sometimes just got to step back and let a monster be a monster, and let people recognize it. And then sometimes you just got to take your foot off the gas to slow the car down. You don't always have to apply the brakes. So at the end of the day, Trump was his own destruction. If the war was stolen, if the election was stolen, is because Trump held that you went against he went against the media. Alright, first of all, he kept calling it fake news. How can you call something fake news? And it's those are the folks that are that are reporting who you are and what you do. We wouldn't even know who you were, even though you ran for president and things of that nature. Everything about you came from the news from the media. All right. Now, at the end of the day, Trump was his own demise. Let's say, let's just say, Jonathan, you know, I'll end it there. But you know,

Jonathan Bing:

yeah, you could.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, Jonathan,

Jonathan Bing:

I see between yo,

Unknown Speaker:

yo, see rock, Jonathan, we're gonna see Rob glad. And listen, I lean I lean to the right. Let's be let's be real here. But doesn't it make better sense any president to get as many people under side as possible by still standing on their principles, but still trying to get people to talk good about them, and support them or somehow, and you know, you can look at it as manipulation however you want to look at it, but getting people to talk great about you, first of all, getting anybody to talk about you, in general period, what no matter what they're saying, but I just never understood why fight them. But this is the rock solid.

Jonathan Bing:

Once again, guys, what I know and I know and I'll talk to you guys afterwards, what I can't stand about the right. Okay, as you guys try to have it both ways. You guys don't participate. A guy didn't take credit for the result. Okay? You guys didn't mock something up, and then place blame for the result. Okay, that's what's going on with the right and that's what's been going on with the right for a very long time. Now, once again, the gentleman I was just arguing this point like, oh, yeah, you know, we're at war. That's incorrect. We're definitely at war. Okay. And given that time, given that way, we've always been at war. Okay. There's never been a time in this country where we weren't at war. If you use your logic, okay. There's never been a time that no country was I wasn't at war, using your goddamn logic. The head, okay, but now you guys go back on Trump when he's actually fighting a war under Trump. And we weren't at war. It doesn't make any goddamn sense. When we had an actual declared war. We were in Afghanistan, okay and Iraq, during his administration, and we weren't at war. Where to hell is this coming from? And that's when you guys lose me as

Unknown Speaker:

a communist the communist country, the all the communist country has divided that war started with the Division of the types of country rerun we are not in a communist side of the country. All on, all on the communist side has waged war of those American sides who are all a particular government organization a corporation that is what makes

Jonathan Bing:

the guy with no profile says the guy with no profile, no profile picture. No social media truly attached to his account. I do have a Twitter with nothing on it. Women any women have a voice in this anyone want to say something about this?

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, Jonathan, I tell you this brother, I'm gonna be a billionaire one day. That's a deep voice

Jerry Malcolm:

won't be here for a woman are you? Are you a woman brother? Are you a day Hey, she

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, let's ask how you identifies her she

Unknown Speaker:

or not I didn't want to tell you this brother. I'm going to be a billionaire one day

Jerry Malcolm:

just curious, how's he gonna get to a billion? billionaires?

Jonathan Bing:

billionaires, he called him a million Harris.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, back to you, John Trump judges.

Unknown Speaker:

What about Trump judges what they have to say about how you feel about the Trump judges who said they didn't find him prepared, these wouldn't be election? What about that answer that

Jonathan Bing:

they can't answer it? They

Unknown Speaker:

can't answer

Jonathan Bing:

your own his own appointed judges throughout his claims, but that's fine. His own appointing judges said that there were no grounds to move forward.

Unknown Speaker:

The job. The judges never looked at the merits of those cases. And all of the issues that we haven't talked about tonight, and the individual states, whether it was Pennsylvania, or Arizona, or Georgia, or Wisconsin, we've seen clear evidence of fraud. The only question is, will the state legislatures, the individual states themselves, step up? And actually decertify? Let me ask you.

Jonathan Bing:

A question. And then I have a question here. I want to pose why is it that there's only improprieties in the states that Trump lost? And then when he went to Wednesday, he was so

Jerry Malcolm:

smart? Wait, wait, wait, wait, bro. That is the smartest question. I probably heard this year on clubhouse that question Jonathan just asked, because

Unknown Speaker:

I can answer in Florida,

Unknown Speaker:

in Florida where I am. I have some friends that work in the polling sections. And they actually went to an address in Tampa, Florida, that supposedly got 10 million votes. I heard this first person. And they said, you know, we went to an empty address and found that there were 10 million votes from that empty lot. So it's not that there weren't fraud. It was that there. The vote turned out the way that people wanted it. So because you know, no.

Jerry Malcolm:

clubhouse makes it makes it.

Jonathan Bing:

Good. Thank you, Jerry. Okay, I got a you have moderate because you call that out? Because just because you said that doesn't mean that should happen. To prove.

Unknown Speaker:

They have an excuse for why it happened.

Unknown Speaker:

Let me I'm happy to speak to it. I would say this, even though I voted for Trump, I'll put that out there. What TC said earlier was correct. Biden is the duly elected President of the United States for one specific reason. And that reason is the electoral college. And when all my friends came to me and said Trump,

Jonathan Bing:

should electoral college, he won the popular vote row talking about no no. No, you guys live

Unknown Speaker:

in an alternative universe or something. The popular vote doesn't matter. But you just said

Jonathan Bing:

Well, then why you bring up the electoral college he won because of how the Tories won one my guys, because you're you're implying that if we remove electoral college, he wouldn't have been President. That's what that statement meant. No, it didn't.

Unknown Speaker:

You're wrong. Oh, no, no, no. Electoral College is the law. It's not that the voters the voters make suggestions to the electorial. We're not the size we're not the deciding law. There's the electoral college is the one who listens and decides based on the popular vote, which vote they're going to cast they're the final decision that's

Unknown Speaker:

I don't need to go back

Unknown Speaker:

what some of you guys are saying at the end of the day, I was like an undertone of what you guys are saying he clearly understands how this whole thing works. You know, at the end of the day, the problem is is that Trump failed himself he failed his party he was knocked down with this very yeah here's my here's the thing at the end of the day the Republicans did a good job they were on code they were they represent him as long as he was there and when it was time for him

Jerry Malcolm:

i TC I got a question for you bro. TC

Unknown Speaker:

Mr. Door open but they made sure to make sure he was on his way out the exit they didn't get in their way. And

Jerry Malcolm:

etc, etc. I got a question for you. Everybody can hear me during PC. I got a quick question for you, bro. Why do you why do you think that Republican movement came to get no Republicans against Trump to get them out of office? Why do you think that happened? TC? TC. TC.

Jonathan Bing:

Anyone, anyone?

Jerry Malcolm:

I thought LTC time Okay, while we wait,

Unknown Speaker:

I just don't wait on behavior. I don't think No need to take the emotions out.

Unknown Speaker:

When they looked at it, it was starting to define itself as the beginning of a dictatorship, they started to look for and realize that if they allowed this rhetoric to continue to happen, we find ourselves in greater wars, this thing going on with Russia and Ukraine, what's going to happen? Regardless, Putin has his own mind. And he's been portrayed as all the guards, Sis Sis, you know, July 2000. He brought them on.

Jerry Malcolm:

You must not have been in the room. You must not have been in the room who's speaking who's speaking just now the ECB Devi, who's speaking? ECB. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, ECB. You must not have been in the room the last couple of days. That's not true. They said if Trump was President, we wouldn't be they wouldn't be a war, ECB. It wouldn't be more ECB. That's not true. Yeah,

Jonathan Bing:

exactly. But yet we're in a war even though we're not in the war. We talked about biting,

Unknown Speaker:

man. But that's because those people have that John Wayne mentality. They want John rain and Clint Eastwood mentality thinking, Trump's thinking about the law, the laws, but the law is the law man, you can't you can't you can't act like the law doesn't didn't work or wasn't in progress. Doing all this craziness. You got to take the craziness out of this and think about how the laws and think about how to think about how the country is set up, right? The country to America is has its alliances. Okay.

Jerry Malcolm:

We got somebody with a with a matrix. We got somebody with a matrix right now, please. See, here's the thing. I think you're ready to mute their mic. Who's speaking just now, just Leroy? I would just say one second leeway. One second leeway. I want to open the stage up a little bit to some to some newbies will appreciate you with that leeway. But I need to open the stage up for some people. That has not an opportunity to speak yet. Is there anybody that wants to

Jonathan Bing:

share before we do that one second. One second, guys, before we before we do that, guys, one second guys. Up top above. At the top of the page. Guys, we have a link there. That is for the bait the news debate. The news is now worldwide guys on the World Wide Web on a podcast. So whether it's Spotify, Amazon, you know, YouTube, what is it? Jerry? Apple Music iTunes. Tune in Stitcher, guys, you guys can find us everywhere. All the episodes of ever that has ever happened here on debate news, you can find it on Spotify. Guess what guys, you can let your family know if you're participating in debate the news like Tara was saying, you let your family know that guess what, guys, you guys are on a podcast so you guys can be heard all around. And right now in Tanzania. We got it to India. We haven't. It's Canada, Australia. We're all over the world. People are down downloading us and consuming the information. So make sure you guys follow us on your favorite platform podcasting, I guess play a platform and show some low guys. Give us a follow. Give us a like do that. Jerry, back to you.

Jerry Malcolm:

And one thing y'all gotta remember, when you come to the stage and participate, you can be part of that podcast and it sounds so cool. So make sure you guys go check it out. The link is up top. It looks absolutely amazing. Thank you for that. Mr. Jonathan Bing, and CB my brother. Every time I heard you talk I kept thinking was that other guy talking earlier? I got to make sure I keep PTR and look up top. So thank you for that. CB. Anybody else wants to jump in

Unknown Speaker:

on me? I'd like to speak I like why would I be as real quick.

Jerry Malcolm:

I'm gonna go to Safari. And then I'm gonna go to you. So Safari.

Unknown Speaker:

Is this cute? Yeah. Jafar with A J.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, who's cute? That's not Safari.

Unknown Speaker:

I'm sorry. That's me.

Jerry Malcolm:

A cute. That's why you got to mute your mic, man. Because you got to allow feedback. And I thought that was you talking. So Safari? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker:

All right on peace and blessings. Thank y'all for holding the space. Um, I said, my name is Farah Jones. I'm an activist out of Hampton, Virginia. I've been the head of BLM 757 also known as Black Lives Matter. 757 for the last five years. And um, one thing I just wanted to speak on the Trump situation as far as him going, etc. The lady was running down his stat sheet. Obama pretty much is the Chris Paul in that situation, because he left that for him as like an inheritance. So it wasn't anything particular. You

Jerry Malcolm:

make sure they know what you mean by can you make sure they know what you mean when you say Chris Paul, because he's a point guard that probably went over people's head. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker:

Yes. So pretty much Obama assisted in all that by setting up the play. He set up all of that before he got out of office. So therefore, everything that Trump inherited was pretty much a cruise control type of mission. And as far as being at war, I personally consider I understand the military standpoint, we have personally been at war as activists against law enforcement, other atrocities but the world is literally at war. There is conflicts going on everywhere, so they may not name it a world War, it may not have anything, it has everything to do with Russia now and Ukraine, but also in America and Iraq, and all the other different Middle Eastern countries that have been forever in conflict. I've never left conflict. So the world is, you know, I feel like actually at war, but I do feel like you know, what the, you know, what, just sticking to the subject at hand and record gas record oil, the record inflation in the record jobs is the pandemic came and people weren't working. And now they are working again. And this current administration, I voted for Joe Jorgeson. And we endorsed them in spite Kohane here, so there wasn't an option, America chose to still depend on the two party system, as opposed to breaking away from that, because Oh, you got to split the vote, fuck the splitting the vote, do what's right and vote for who's actually going to make a change in this country.

Jerry Malcolm:

Thank you, brother. Appreciate that. Anybody else want to jump in? Or anybody? Totally, totally disagrees with everything he just said. Anybody want jump in? Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker:

Well, no Santa. Like to jump in? Okay. No, there

Jerry Malcolm:

was a guy, I think Q Q. Did you still want to get in queue?

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, there's a feedback. Okay. No, you're

Jerry Malcolm:

good. You're good.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, man, great platform, great, great, great rhetoric, everybody. Great exchange of ideas. I'm just making just a forensic for just me and my son as a black man in this country. Just logically thinking, when I look at the election, were really alerted me and alarmed me about the election was three things. Number one was the big change that happened overnight. Right? When I was watching all night, whatever, in the history of the election had never changed so drastically like that. Overnight. Number two, is knowing a little bit about law hadn't been to jail, they would not even look at the merits of the case at all. And I'm wondering, why is this happening? Like why in the world not even look at the American house? And then lastly, if you can convince me as a black man, I know my

Jerry Malcolm:

cue before you go much further. Before you go. I gotta ask you a question, bro. No. Okay. I got your questions. You just made a pretty, you know, bolster claim. You said they didn't even look at the merits of it. How do you know that? How do you know when it was

Unknown Speaker:

on a green board. And it also wanted to stay course, if you understand law, the merits or the actual case will never ever looked at not not one single time look at the court document. Records. They never looked at the merits. It was dismissed on standing and none of the merits. Let me say this. Lastly, as a black man from southeast Washington DC, knowing my

Jerry Malcolm:

thing, so somebody says right now the queue is not on clubhouse. If somebody says accused not on clubhouse right now he's actually on playing basketball and doing something somewhere completely different. He's nowhere near phone. This isn't really I'm talking. Do you think they would look at the merits of that? Or do you think you think because of the other evidence that, you know, present itself is kind of pointless to go any further? Is that possible?

Unknown Speaker:

I think from my perspective, based on the depositions and number of affidavits that were been presented, both on the federal and state level, they should have really looked at the merits. The reason why I'm concerned is because of

Jerry Malcolm:

this number, a number of affidavits matters, or is it the Met? Or is it the quality of the affidavit? So just because he got a bunch,

Unknown Speaker:

I think what I think both quantity and quality and there was enough experts that spoke mathematically, scientifically, and both legally, that I believe that it should have been heard. That's my

Jerry Malcolm:

person. Let me ask you one more question. Let me ask you a question, brother. If what you're saying is true, and then went that way? Who do you think was the powers that be that made it not, you know, made the merits not get looked at? Why was somebody in such favor of the merits not being looked at? If everything is at you? I'm just curious to help me understand this whole thing more like why do you think it was in favor of one party against the other? Why do you think that is,

Unknown Speaker:

I think my perspective would be a little bit jaded for the people in the room. I'm a Judeo Christian. So I have a Protestant viewpoint that lines up with World eschatology so that they may not be relevant in this particular role. But I do believe we're moving forward toward governments that started with Bill Clinton, NATO, NAFTA, all that had just a one way government, religious system as

Jerry Malcolm:

well, making sure you can pick up where you left off.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, and this was, again, my observations of black man and just wanting equanimity, and parity and in the judicial system, especially for me and my, my, my black son, I felt like if he couldn't get a fair look at what I believe to be the very substantive merited evidence to neither one me or my son, and that was my biggest concern. Lastly, I will say this knowing my people, and knowing how we voted for Obama, there's no way on God's green earth you can convince me that more black people voted for Joe Biden, than Barack Obama, you just can never I'm not that stupid. So with those three things that made me really look at it from that particular perspective.

Jonathan Bing:

Yeah, that's bullshit. I'm gonna tell you something. Yeah. Well, no, and I'll tell you why. It's bullshit, bro. Because people saw Trump as a threat. Okay, so will you tell them why more people voted for Biden? No more people voted against Trump. You guys have a I guess a convenient way of looking at shit. Looking at shit when it doesn't when it doesn't line up and find the conspiracy when there is any Okay, so yeah, so once again when, when. So when Obama wait one second people lined up. All right people saw Trump as a threat to their lives. They saw him as a threat to their freedom. They saw a threat as threat to, you know, I guess race, everything, everything that you could think about race. Women, you know, feminism, they saw them as a threat. Okay. There's a link in that the Lincoln project, when have you ever seen on a national level, a Democrat or Republican group come out against the current candidate and encourage people to vote against their parties? I guess, candidate, it hasn't happened. And you guys just disregarding that and saying, oh, there's no reason why people would, and we're in the middle of pandemic, and it wasn't handled the right way. So why all of a sudden, you guys are all a sense in my mind in my eyes. I can't see it. I either. I can see it. It's Claire's day. They were in Bolton for Biden, they were voting to get rid of Trump. All right, and

he was lying my guys one mic, one mic one mic, bro. Bro, you bro. You're not gonna have to talk to me, bro. So you might have stopped and next time you're gonna go on stage. And all I'm trying to say here. No, no, bro. No, bro. I'm not getting emotional. It's Guess what? I let you talk. I didn't talk while you're talking. You had a right to talk while I'm talking? No. Okay, one second brother. All you had to do was wait when I was talking. And then you would have gotten the mic back. All in one second. This exchange is happening because you don't know the rules or you broke the rules. Okay, that's the rule or every damn stage in clubhouse. I understand you're privileged, but what I will do, and I will finish them. I will finish this off by saying this right here. That if if had had had Trump done the right thing, okay, that would have happened. If Trump not been a threat that would have happened. And guess what, guys? They were bullying to get past him. They didn't become Democrats, they're ready to go back to a party when a party has a viable candidate. And that my friend is what ran it up. Okay. That's just like saying, If you don't believe more people voted for BOD that how can more people vote for Biden, in Obama? More people voted for Trump and Trump's loss than they voted for by Olive vonden. Obama. So what the hell are you doing? What are you talking about? Obviously, there was more votes cast, because the loser got more votes than Obama did. And I you know, I got a question. Can I add?

Jerry Malcolm:

One second? One second, I need to go on second. One second, I want to open a stage up to some newbies. This is because we keep going, you know, to the same people. Is there anybody else who want to speak? If not, I'll go to the same people.

Unknown Speaker:

Can I say something about the demographics of elections, not one person on this stage has voted and ever stated male female black white on their ballot. Because when you do your ballot is anonymous. There are no demographics. So any type of way when you hear more black people voted for that is from surveys and not from actual ballot, because there are no demographics when you cast yours thing,

Jerry Malcolm:

I suppose. Yeah. One second. No one second. Survey. No one's like wants to appreciate you for that. Um, is there anybody that wants to jump in on this conversation? If not, I'm looking for somebody new that has not had an opportunity to speak. If so state your name and jump in.

Unknown Speaker:

My name. My name is Ella. Boy. I have a question for Jonathan.

Jerry Malcolm:

Go ahead with your question for Jonathan. And one more second. One more second. Um, you know, I got a bunch of mics, unmuted, and somebody was making some noise. And I almost accidentally put someone in the audience that thought was making a noise and it wasn't them. It was somebody else. So that's why you got to keep your mic muted because I'm going to accidentally move you to the audience. And so as my other monitor is looking for the noise. Go ahead, Sandra.

Unknown Speaker:

Thank you. I actually have two questions for him. One, does he think Biden is a racist? And to

Jerry Malcolm:

I forgot to so let's question before before Jonathan answers the question. I want to do something different before Johnson answers the question. And this is really serious. Okay. You just ask Jonathan if he thinks Biden is a racist that was was that question number one.

Unknown Speaker:

That was question number one.

Jerry Malcolm:

And I Yes. Okay. Okay. No, no. The answer's yes. Sandra, I got a quick question for you. Sandra. Do you think Biden is a racist? Absolutely. Oh my god.

Jonathan Bing:

So here's one second. Here's, here's the answer to the question. Okay. First and foremost, I don't know what the hell byton is. Okay. I don't know what he is all right. But what I do know is that he served as the vice president to the first African American president. I also know that he had a he has the first African American vice president. Okay. Second highest office in Atlanta. He chose the African American woman. I also know that the first Supreme Court Justice, okay. nominee of a black out of African American woman is my Biden. Okay, so that but that that's neither here dear. Whether or not Biden is a racist, because I'm gonna tell you something. If he is a racist, he wouldn't be different. It was Trump racist. Okay, you can accept about Trump. Okay. Trump has said it, and we're, Trump has said it and we're on numerous occasions and is caught on film. And in fact, if you look at the apprentice, which you're the apprentice outtakes, which they they're hiding, they don't want out there. He spoke and did horribly about African Americans. So when you guys are getting up into my buying, being a racist in order to defend Trump, you guys have nothing to stand on. Fresh from his father was a Ku Klux Klan member. Okay. Hey, Jojo. One second. One second. One second. Hold on. I'm not you asked me about binary Guess what? Trump a suit, okay for being discriminatory against black people. Okay, when and when when renting out his apartments in New York. So there's a lot that points to Trump being a racist. So when you ask that question, I don't know what you're trying to get out of it. But I do know one thing. Trump appears to be more of a racist and has me confirmed. Okay, all take all film, okay to be just deck. So what was your point in excellent question.

Unknown Speaker:

I wasn't I wasn't defending Trump at all. I just don't understand how you can ultimately defend

Jonathan Bing:

by Oh, so So I need to I need to go with the overt racist. I need to go with the overt racist that has really done things. Okay. Every chance he got to, I guess to I guess keep the black community away from his properties. Didn't want black people count on his winnings. Casinos, okay. Didn't want black people living in apartments. Alright, so, so no, no, no. So you're not talking about that. But what you're talking about is buy in so like i You should vote for by Trump or by him because by is a racist, but never never mentioning the fact that vase Trump is probably the biggest racist. It's all smoke and mirrors. It's smoke and mirrors what you're doing right now. And that's why, you know, you guys aren't to be trusted. Because like I said, about, you know, what I said about you conservatives, is you guys take credit for shit you don't do and place blame for shit that you have done?

Unknown Speaker:

The Democrats do it too. And they've done it always. I have another question. Do you think that by they would go against Trump and try to get him out of office even read the election? Because he knows

Jonathan Bing:

Where's no rigging? I don't have to answer. I don't have to hear the rest of that. There's no rigging of elections guys. Now in this country. Now in order for a country re election to be rigged. You know, the parties have to be involved. How many different parties people at different levels that have to be involved? We can't get to people. We can't get two people to agree in this room on something, let alone getting 3040 people to agree to rig a goddamn election. And that's the most preposterous shit I've ever heard.

Unknown Speaker:

election was today. The election was today Trump would win.

Unknown Speaker:

Absolutely. Oh, no. He

Jonathan Bing:

would. We will find we were gonna find out in 2024 Right. We'll find out in 2024

Unknown Speaker:

He's gonna run in 2024 I think they're gonna pick someone else. I don't think it'll be

Unknown Speaker:

a big scandal that TV show when he really goes election

Jonathan Bing:

you know, sad guys, until Trump came along. There were no fucking rigged elections. Alright, and you guys are freaking out. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. One second. Guys. Let me talk. Let me talk once again, because there's been no nothing talking about rigged elections. In fact, even though I'm Bush v. Gore. Did he say the election was rigged? He just said the ballots weren't counted properly because of the hanging chads. Okay. Until Trump came along, there was no thing as a rigged presidential election. Alright, and all of a sudden, now, we got this humongous problem, because you guys pick someone that doesn't want to lose gracefully, right does not you know what? An outdoor could have fought, fought and fought, but he didn't. He bowed out gracefully for the good of our country. But Trump was ready to take down our whole goddamn nation just to feed his hunger, his hunger and thirst for power. And you guys are sitting here like idiots defending that bullshit.

Jerry Malcolm:

You know, notice Jonathan, one second everybody. Once I go by John, you know what I noticed and they probably won't admit it. Most people are regurgitating things that Trump said. They didn't say on their own. He said he may have claimed Gary Johnson he made claims that all of a sudden like sheep like followers, they just start saying what he said they would never set on their own. Because he made everything everybody's saying. It's read. aren't that word rigged? He said that, then everybody else starts saying read.

Jonathan Bing:

Now Jerry, let's be fair, let's do something that they don't freakin do. No, no, let's say let's let their voice be heard. Go ahead, guys. Let's go.

Unknown Speaker:

Yes, exactly. You're happy with $30 gas prices and world war three.

Unknown Speaker:

Say that the serious thing that we need to look at is why are young men such as the brilliant ones on stage not running for office? instead? We are looking for people who should be in retirement. Still fighting for power.

Jerry Malcolm:

Cuz we got misdemeanors, and go ahead, miss. Great Jonathan. Grant for President. That's us. Tom on me and Jonathan. She's a grant for President. Go. Okay,

Unknown Speaker:

you guys think that saran wrap off the phone, man? It's hard to hear you. It's hard to hear you.

Unknown Speaker:

In Southern California. We got a Mac.

Unknown Speaker:

Sorry. Oh, it's

Jerry Malcolm:

a mask? I'm sorry. No, you don't have to mask up in California. California did not make you mask in California.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, I'm around people in Pasadena. So I gotta myself. I'm not playing with this people.

Jerry Malcolm:

Alright, anybody else want to join in? Jump in the conversation? If so? The title day record gas prices? I don't even know what they are. I mean, the gas station in the minute. Was it? $5 $6 What is it anyway? What is gas prices?

Unknown Speaker:

I'm in Fort Myers, Florida. For 39

Jerry Malcolm:

for everyone. Once again, once I get so so in Tampa is what

Unknown Speaker:

449 In Tampa today?

Unknown Speaker:

It's 430. In

Unknown Speaker:

Charlotte 8485. In Brooklyn, New York. 485 in Brooklyn, New York. 505.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, all right. Gotcha. Everybody. So I guess it went down from five something because I heard the other day was at five some bought the push six. I don't know went up. But la Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. You're okay. You got to take your mask off because your your sound is real distorted. But um, anybody else want to jump in? If so, Rosalyn. Are you on stage?

Unknown Speaker:

Yes, I am. Yeah, I did want to jump in. And I think I just wanted to echo what you said. I think you would totally correct. I voted against Trump. I didn't want Biden. But I damn sure would never ever want Trump again. So I did everything I could to get Trump out.

Unknown Speaker:

Good. Movie.

Jerry Malcolm:

Yeah, go ahead, brother jump in.

Unknown Speaker:

Yeah, um, and I just wanted to speak on the dude who said that black people had, you know, he's not convinced that black people turned out more for Biden, and turned out for, for Obama, right. And the thing that's funny is that people don't realize, especially when it comes to a lot of these things, when it comes to economics, when it comes to the habit election when all it is a lot of this has to do with COVID, right? Like a lot of this has to do with the fact that one, everybody was at home, you know, sheltering in place all that stuff, and was once more invested in the politics that was on TV, much more invasive vested with the news, much more invested in everything that was going on, because there was a, a stark drop in apathetic voters, you know, there, because with every election, there's like a large majority of the people, the population don't vote, you know, like, there's when you when you compare the people who do vote on one side or the other. There, there's a large group of people who usually don't vote that that number was astronomically lower this election than it was prior to you know, when Obama was running and everything else. And then, you know, because of the US being at home and doing everything from home, everybody, you know, was was keeping up with the news much more and seeing all the shit that was going down. You know, I mean, when Obama was doing what Obama was doing, there was a lot of people who didn't care. And just like plain and simple, right? So, I think and a lot of this stuff, too, you know, was on a on a, essentially a cultural level that people can vibe with. It wasn't something that was over two heads. So it's like, I think people got to realize what situation we're in and same with the gas prices too. Same with autism. The reason why the gasps Trump didn't do shit to go to gas prices. The reason why gas prices were lower, because nobody was driving. And nobody was, you know, don't the supply of oil was much higher than the demand because everybody was at home. So it's like, and I didn't I did. But my job before getting laid off was was was energy economics. So it's like, we were talking about the gas prices in the meet in the meeting room with executives. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about what Trump was doing

Jerry Malcolm:

when they were doing it. When did the pandemic come in? At what year? I can't recall at what year in the Trump's presidency was his last year?

Unknown Speaker:

My 2020 was going down, but

Jerry Malcolm:

no, but when it wouldn't really start getting down to the last year he was in office. Right. Exactly. So he had he had at least two solid years. He had two solid years it was pandemic free. Correct. Exactly. Okay. And Biden came into into office as disaster from the gate from from day one. He he inherited something that was a disaster. Somebody earlier said that Chris, he Trump got a Chris Paul, lob and assist based on some things it was set up by the previous administration, meaning Obama, so you know, love them or hate them. I'm gonna say this. I did not vote for President Biden. Okay. I did not vote for President Trump. So you know, I don't have a what he called, say a dog in a fight. But yeah, voted. Okay, if that makes you feel good. But but here's the here's the thing, though, is it is it and I'm speaking to one of the ladies that this this can get intellectual for for a moment, a new lady? Is it possible? Or probable, or highly likely, it'd be a whole different turnout. If the President Joe Biden would have walked into something that was a little bit more neutral, as opposed to a basically a warzone pandemic, where it was confusion. One party was saying one thing one party was saying another thing, the previous administration was saying mass don't work. All this and that so much mixed up. Anybody want to speak on that? How would this have looked? If President Biden would have walked into a clean slate? The way Donald Trump would it be different? I want you all to get along.

Unknown Speaker:

It alone was not messed up when when Trump walked into the office.

Jerry Malcolm:

No, no, I'm gonna repeat because I don't know if they caught this. It is so interesting. I'm repeating one more time. What's wrong with you, bro? Are you listening to what I just said? Was there, bro you that much in his nuts? I just said he walked into a pandemic. Was there a pandemic when Trump walked into the presidency? I'm not sure about world affairs. I'm talking about Coronavirus that he was a world shut down economy all that because you couldn't even I'm in real estate. I went to go buy some damn courts. And I thought my guy was trying to play me. My place that I go get it from. He's like, Man look is because of what's going on. You know, we can't get an it's a shortage. You can could you get toilet paper when Trump first got in the office? You couldn't get toilet paper? Does that have anything to do with his effectiveness? I want to open up to the stage. Whether your trump lover hater, I could care less I just want some opinions.

Unknown Speaker:

You know, and real quick.

Jerry Malcolm:

Can you land? Can you land you can take off. Go ahead. Dr. Catherine. Are you there? Dr. Catherine? Hey, Terry, I'm here. I got a question for you. Dr. Katherine. Did you hear what I just got through asking everybody you want to say

Unknown Speaker:

something about would this be happening if Trump was in office but that No, no, no,

Jerry Malcolm:

no, no, no, that's not what I saw. Dr.

Unknown Speaker:

Catherine wake it up.

Jerry Malcolm:

This is no this is what I'm asking. See rock anybody would

Unknown Speaker:

like to ask this is Rosalyn again. Of course it would be different but every president inherits whatever's going on in the world and by terrible terrible

Jerry Malcolm:

do me a favor. I was specifically asking I don't know if I got to spell it in the in the link up top. I'm talking about the Coronavirus it if the Coronavirus was not here, when he inherited do y'all think it'd be completely different? Are y'all thinking still a bit screwed up? Because what what?

Unknown Speaker:

What are you talking about though? What are you referring to? Exactly?

Jerry Malcolm:

I'm gonna tell you what I'm referring to see rock I'm referring to whatever they're referring to. Everybody's saying how bad it is. You know, Biden's like the worst president ever. In how great a job Trump did. I'm referring to whatever they're referring to. Gotcha. But this question, cuz I don't even know I'm talking about them. Because they like I can't even tie my shoes the same because Trump's not here. My damn Nikes I just bought matter of fact AC rock. Do you shop at footlocker

Unknown Speaker:

occasionally. Yeah.

Jerry Malcolm:

You heard about that, right. Nike just pulled out a footlocker right. That's a big deal. Nike footlocker slowly no longer selling or not allowed to sell Nike. That's because

Unknown Speaker:

As you know, they're going direct to consumer.

Unknown Speaker:

Oh Nike, direct to consumer. Well did you know

Unknown Speaker:

he has decided to go direct?

Jerry Malcolm:

Did you know you know how do you know how much go ahead you can see rock Do you know how much that will affect footlocker down that's like 70%

Unknown Speaker:

of yeah but did you also know that the DITA sold Reebok and relax come making a comeback now

Jerry Malcolm:

wow. Yeah you can all you got to do is get a couple new new X couple new artists couple new arm athletes

Jonathan Bing:

they

Unknown Speaker:

they just settled on this about beginning of March that sale and they're their goal is to become very, very visible rebind they

Jerry Malcolm:

can do it all. Like I said all I got to do is get a couple few players but the but the biggest thing about this footlocker thing, what they are talking about is how such a big company can have all their eggs in one basket footlocker is a household name. You might even when you think of Nike, you think of footlocker right. You know, of course it is Nike town, etc. All that but footlocker is known, that's like the emblem, Nike. Now they're basically gonna be done. So that's, that's interesting. But I think I'll go look at some Reeboks and see what they got, though. Any.

Unknown Speaker:

I haven't shopped at footlocker in like, 30 years. I have no idea what you're talking about how when people think of Nike they think of footlocker I think of Nike town.

Jerry Malcolm:

No, in the malls in the malls out here. Westfield at the mall in Culver City. Soon as you walk in, you got a suit you walk in and this one particular side of the mall. That whole side is just a big giant footlocker. So footlocker in certain parts of town is still very big. I don't know what town you're in. But I'm in California.

Jonathan Bing:

Nice to meet new area.

Jerry Malcolm:

Chicago. Chicago is too cold. It's too cold in Chicago, y'all. Y'all don't y'all don't run outside people in California. We run outside. We run a beach. Y'all be in a snow with chains around your shoes.

Unknown Speaker:

When they can't line up at three o'clock in the morning for the releases?

Jerry Malcolm:

I don't know. I don't know. Absolutely. Guys. Jonathan.

Unknown Speaker:

On the sneaker. Yeah,

Jerry Malcolm:

they bought me some shoes that people want some new news. Oh, you got what's the new news

Jonathan Bing:

that God is

Unknown Speaker:

exciting as all of this just just a small let got 150 days in jail for his sentence. And then the rest probation and $25,000

Jonathan Bing:

I think it was warranted. He deserved it. I think it was warranted. Yeah, it's now for you guys. Oh, no, no, we're talking about Jessie smaller is the gentlemen that that is? What's part of that television show. What is it? Higher watch empire. He faked an attack by I guess imaginary. White supremacist Trump supporters. I hate I did like mega mega. They did all this other stuff. He said he forever he put a noose around them too. Yeah, for whatever reason, he decided to do that. And it just did that in the wall because they were able to figure out that he was lying. And so no, once again, guy. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker:

After before they. Before the judge gave the sentence, he asked him if he wanted to say anything. And he said no. But then after the judge gave the sentence, he started yelling out. I'm not suicidal, I'm not suicidal. And I was like, Why does he keep saying that? And then he finally he said, So if anything happens to me, I'm telling you know, I'm not suicidal. So you know that that's not the reason why it happened. And I'm sure that's gonna be all over the news when they talk about it tonight.

Jonathan Bing:

Yeah, well, I guess he's trying to say that if he wanted debt, right, you know, obviously, he died. He's afraid, you know, and yeah, I feel bad that the young man's afraid. But he had a very charmed life, you know, and he, there was no need for him to do that, you know, it was to promote himself. Okay. And, you know, he didn't need to promote himself. But that's unfortunate guys that that happened. We're gonna be at a time on it. We're gonna guess what that's on the table. If you guys want to speak about that, because it did happen. It speaks it speaks to how sometimes people color do unfortunately unnecessarily pay pay to race car and we all suffer because of that. So we can open that back. We can open that up as well. But what I want to point out guys is up top there we guys, we have the link guys. We have debate. The news is now a podcast. So whether you're listening to us, listening to us on your podcast on Stitcher, Spotify, tune in radio, iTunes, Apple podcast, whatever it may be. We are there. So you guys title whatever it is that you guys listen on. Tune in radio. You guys can find the Beta news if you guys click on the link guys, every episode of debate news has ever had is now on that podcast. up and ready for your consumption. So do us a favor, show us some love guys. We're trying to take this thing off the app. And guess what, guys, when you guys participate on this app, you guys are able to, you're part of a podcast. And so you're able to let your friends and family hear you. Your participation. So when when a guest is up here seeing the crazy stuff all when Dr. Catherine is up here, guess what, guys, it's out there for the whole for you and your family to enjoy. Even if they're not part of this app, and you've been trying to get them on to the app, they can hear what you guys are up to if your wife is always asking why are you in that crazy app? No, I would never download it. Guess what? Now you can play it on a podcast. And she and you can hear it did so. Guys, click on a link up above if you will guys show myself Jerry and grandson love and just click on a link guys and follow us and like us, man. Let the world know that we're here. I appreciate that and turn it back over to you Jerry.

Jerry Malcolm:

I'm going to turn it back over to the audience. Anybody want to jump in? Or the stage? Anybody want to jump in and just jump in? Stay tuned. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker:

guys, that the playback on those podcasts sound fantastic, guys. So really good job with what you're doing there. Congratulations on that. And Jonathan, real quick before I forget, I just wanted to do a quick thank you for the reminder on the lease programs for these cars the other night, man, I checked with my daughter. She's got a car that was going back next month, and I totally forgot. I had her check it out. 19,000 on the buyout. Carvana is writing a check for 23 for I think it is so nice. Nice little hit. I just wanted to say thank you for that, Jonathan.

Jonathan Bing:

Yeah, once again, I'm glad that once again, guys, when you guys tune in to debate, he knew that I we tried to keep everything relevant. And the fact that someone was able to make $23,000 Just by listening to us, because that money would have disappeared, they wouldn't have told her about it. Has she not known to ask about that, that the dealership would have bought the car kept the money me all the money on that. So I'm happy, Peter, that you did. Peter, I want to say thank you for downloading the podcast and listening. It's always feels good to have the support of the audience and our CO moderators. And all you guys on stage. The speakers are exactly that our CO Moderator. So absolutely, thank

Unknown Speaker:

you guys, I've been sharing it out, I would strongly suggest everybody on stage and everybody in the audience do the same. And it's the power of the voice. We all have a voice here from from fringe thanks to Jerry and Jonathan and grant. And I think it's the least we can do if we're going to participate is to support by sharing it and let everybody out there know that it exists. So thanks again, guys.

Jerry Malcolm:

And thank you and welcome to the room once again. Thank you. Yes. So Jonathan, we touched on this record guys, like I said, that's that's pretty deep record jobs. So is there anything, anybody when we we wind down to the last hour like this, we make it about Charles wonder whatever topic you guys want to talk about this up there, just jump in and join the conversation.

Unknown Speaker:

I'd like to jump into new speaker, NEW SPEAKER Go ahead. NEW SPEAKER I am les Khan. First of all, I just want to say, you know, thank you to you and Jonathan, this is one of the best spaces out there right now I just want to pay homage to you all for creating kind of a public square to kind of have debate and like Obama said, disagree without being disagreeable. You all are doing an amazing job. And I just want to thank you for that. First of

Jerry Malcolm:

all, please appreciate, you know, thank you. We keep

Unknown Speaker:

talking about oil prices. And I've been listening pretty much since the State of the Union address about the oil prices. And I think something is being missed in the conversation. Right? The real issue is not a Democratic Republican thing. It's a lack of investment in infrastructure. Right? We we have under invested in the oil infrastructure, I'm starting off by talking about refinery capacity right in the US. And we have a logistics issue where the refinery first of all, we don't have enough refineries for what we need. We also don't have them in the right place. They're all concentrated in the south, right? And most of the demand is not necessarily concentrated there we have to transport all of this oil all around the country. And then we there's a whole lot of debate about is it Russian oil or Iranian oil and Nigerian oil and blah, blah, blah. And the reality is the oil supply in the US doesn't just go to carbs, right? It goes to so many different things. And and the more you understand about the oil industry, you realize we need different types of oil. And so a lot of the importing of oil is because we don't necessarily always have you know, heavy oil or light sweet crude. There's a mixture of the type of oil depending on kind of what the actual uses, right and that's what's actually driving our need to import oil and things like that. And so people like blaming Obama and and you Joe Biden and Bush and Trump and the reality is it's a structural problem that's been there for a long time. And and the blame is on both sides. You know, from from an ultra liberal standpoint, you'd say, well, we, you know, we're blocking things like solar and all these other sources and and preventing those from being options on the table. Part of it is this whole idea of nimbyism of you know, I don't want solar in my backyard. On the flip side of it. You have, you know, you have conservatives that aren't pushing things like solar enough, right. I mean, if we created a jobs program with solar right now, there's a great podcast by you know, Shema, Palihapitiya, and, you know, Jason Calacanis, and a bunch of others called.

Jerry Malcolm:

What about it, though? If you if

Unknown Speaker:

you listen to the podcast, there's a great debate there about solar. And what you realize is that all these alternatives that we have, and we're not really, you know, we're not really focused on the issue, all we do is debate who's right and who's wrong. And the reality is we just have not invested in oil enough to be able to kind of be truly independent, even if we wanted to have just American oil, we just don't have it. Right. And so the issues are much more complicated. And I think people just like to point fingers left and right. And then just to address one final thing, you know, you were just asking this question of like, what, you know, Trump came in, Biden came into office, you know, would things have been different? I have a theory, I think we've moved from facts to folklore. Now, we're, you know, we've replaced religion, with with with politics. And so those issues have now caused us to like forget facts, we just listen to folklore, and whatever our site says, that's what we believe. So I don't think any president would have had a fair shot anymore. And I think that goes back to the second Bush administration. And it's been going on for a long time, and we're, we're less religious, and instead, we replaced it with politics. And so facts don't matter as much anyway. Hey, I don't want to hold the mic.

Jerry Malcolm:

No. Wait, wait, wait, wait one second.

Unknown Speaker:

Wait, the room we're tracking intellectual? Yes.

Jerry Malcolm:

That's what happens in the news. Catherine, all we have is, how dare you say we're attracting dust?

Unknown Speaker:

Here and people

Jerry Malcolm:

know Dr. Catherine because they're anti vaxxers does not mean an intellectual and watch this. The gentleman just spoke. I'll bet you $1 Right now he's probably not in vaccinate. A brother just spoke.

Unknown Speaker:

Candidly, I am I'm diabetic.

Unknown Speaker:

You're attracting intellectuals to the room and I'm very happy they're here.

Jerry Malcolm:

Wow. Okay. All right, then. Okay. I'm gonna leave that alone right now. Okay, but anyway.

Unknown Speaker:

You you owe her $1.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay. Oh, you dollar. Yeah. So So in other words, grant myself see rock. I don't know if see rocks vaccinated. But anybody who's not vaccinated, how many of y'all take offense of what Dr. Catherine is insinuating? If you're non vaccinate, she's basically saying you're not intellectual. Now you're tired like that? Well, that's what it equals. That's what equals

Unknown Speaker:

unity for enlightenment, an opportunity to enlighten oneself to the research, education and science. And that's what I'm talking about.

Unknown Speaker:

But there is they don't know what their critical thinking now everybody's saying, Oh, if you're a critical thinker, that's the new line for the Conservatives now, so if you don't In other words, if you don't think like I think you're not

Jerry Malcolm:

it's just not fair. It's actually a form of abuse with what the vaxxers do. You guys have been like, like my bullying. I feel like I've been bullied on clubhouse because of the vaccine. I can't go into a room. I can't even go I can't even go into a room. Well, part of the Dirty Dozen. How do you think I sleep at night wearing no list? I know I'm I was two votes away. That was depressing. That's my whole point.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, hey, Jerry. Jerry, I interviewed a guy from he worked at Pfizer for 28 years scientist and I told him that I wasn't faxed and I saw how fast his facial expressions as soon as I told him that I'm like, You kidding me? You really reacted that way? But I mean, I'm not an anti Vaxxer I just haven't I didn't get back because I didn't believe in it yet. I wasn't sure about it

Jerry Malcolm:

that makes you see the guys that make you feel see right just because I buffed up any shape they just expect us once you got feelings to

Unknown Speaker:

now brother defense, but bro I don't take offense anybody man. I don't let that shit bother me. I'm in control. I'm

Jerry Malcolm:

gonna put a room together this weekend about that man about trying to bring us back together. That's like a form of like depression, bro. Like the stuff we have to endure and clubhouse from people like don't yeah, you're

Unknown Speaker:

not like that. You don't you don't let people affect your emotions like that man.

Jerry Malcolm:

Actually, I do. I'm sensitive, bro.

Unknown Speaker:

Okay, person X sensitive to sensitive but make it about your feelings about your feelings.

Jerry Malcolm:

Dr. Catherine just because I'm a man and doesn't mean you know, and I and I may, you know seem like that voice may seem i don't know I'm sensitive and delicate in real life.

Unknown Speaker:

So for the ladies on our team,

Jerry Malcolm:

he sends me late ladies like I like to read a bro. I like to read books and stuff like that. And you know, I like to cook for women. I'm different. I'm, I like to cook for me shopping. A car note,

Jonathan Bing:

Jerry, I think one moment grants here we're getting close to his event. I think we need to talk about that event. That's coming up. later on this month. I'm oh, gee, are

Grant Cardone:

you there? Yes, sir. I am.

Jonathan Bing:

Okay. Let's put that link up. Man. Let's talk about that event, man, because I want to tell you some. It's getting exciting man. People, I hear people talking about it. And I'm like, other spaces. And I'm hearing people I'm hearing people talk about this event, and how big it is. And they're like, this is the big this is the granddaddy of them all. He invites in all the major players. He I don't know they say your seating is like rounded or something like that. All right. And like circular I don't know. Maybe I got it wrong, but some people don't. Maybe people just saying stuff. That's that that that may not be the case.

Jerry Malcolm:

Hey, wait, watch this. Grant. Greg. Gotta say this real quick. Wait, lease lease. Are you on the stage? Lisa? Yeah. Oh, sure. Notice, you don't know. I was about to say, Jonathan. I know what I'm doing, bro. Lisa, you on stage? Lisa, I'm talking to you, Lisa. Hello, Lisa. Yeah. Is this Lisa? I don't know if it's the same. Lisa. Is this the Lisa is going to the event? Yes. Okay, I'll tell I was gonna say that John. John, is people like this meeting the app that we talk on Instagram. This got tickets. And these aren't just the 97 tickers. These are people's actually VIP. Lisa is a VIP member.

Unknown Speaker:

That's right, where my husband and I are both going to be on the front row. And I turned 50.

Jerry Malcolm:

Exactly. Yeah, at least. I had to point that out. Lisa,

Grant Cardone:

make sure you email Andy, I want to know that because there was actually another person turning 50 The same day. On Friday, I think the first day of the event. What's your birthday? What did you day after yours? March 22. Okay, all right. He's talking to you. Yeah. You don't get

Unknown Speaker:

a grant is?

Grant Cardone:

Yeah, I hope not. I mean, that's a lot of money. So thank you for supporting us. And thank you for being there. And I promise you to deliver you and your husband a band a like out of your mind experience. If you guys I put a link above there are seven tickets that came available today. There's actually a total of 15, seven tickets that are executive level, and eight tickets that are VIP, everything else in the room is sold out. Just so happened. Some people had a situation where they can't come in. So if you want to grab those, they're on the site. Right now there's seven tickets, they're half price. The executives. So anyway, if you want to be part of this event, there's not we haven't, we haven't named one speaker, I promise you, every speaker that you there will blow your mind. And most events, people have trouble selling their events out. And they'll have you know, 25 speakers there have a mall name and listed this events been sold out of sold out in under under a week. And without listing a speaker except for myself. So, phenomenal event March 25 26th 27th. In Miami, if you can't get down there can't afford to get down there. You can't get away from work or whatever. You can also click on that link, there's a $97 option that you where you get your money back, you literally pay nothing to go to the event, we charge your card $97. And then when you give you we give you a credit immediately at our store for $97. And you can attend the entire three days from your home. And then we also allow you to watch it in the future so that you can watch it now or you can watch it later or you can do both for 97 bucks. And then we give you credit at the store. So it's virtually three

Unknown Speaker:

grands so free to kind of say something to you. Please. I just want to tell everyone that I think you all know that grant and I are on different sides of the spectrum. We don't agree politics on all those things. However, I like to operate on integrity. And I want to say that I did attend grants, last event virtual and there is nothing you can take away from him in terms of being a speaker. It was amazing. I carried my iPad around with me every single day and I learned a lot. So I just want to say that if you do attend, you will certainly get your money's worth and more because he knows what he's talking about in terms of real estate. It was excellent and I thank you that I got an opportunity to go, I bought my ticket, and I didn't lose anything from it. I'm very appreciative. So thank you.

Grant Cardone:

Well, and thank you for not letting your confusion political confusions get in the way of your education. So, and I hope everybody here I hope you guys can, you know, separate between me come in here at night and having fun with you guys. And, and, and state my opinion with, with the other thing I do in my professional life, which is my mission is to help people like, like, if you took everything away from me tomorrow, I'd wake up, I want to help people, if you gave me $100 billion tomorrow, I'd wake up and want to help people. So I wanted to help as a kid when I was on the come up

Jonathan Bing:

and wasn't going to cut you off. But one night, the premises become a billionaire. We're not the premise. everything away. And from you and you.

Grant Cardone:

Yeah, yeah, undercover billionaire. They said, hey, what if you didn't have anything I said, where you want me to go? They said, Well, you, we're gonna send you someplace you've never been, you can't use your name. You can't, can't use your money, can't use your credit cards cannot call any of your friends for help. And you got to build a million dollar business in 90 days. And I did that during COVID, by the way, so you guys want to watch it, go go grab discovery. Plus, it's sitting on their discovery Plus app. And you'll watch me spend 90 days in Pueblo, Colorado during COVID. And you'll watch exactly how I would if I had no name and no money, I would build a million dollar business. I didn't hit my target. By the way. I did hit the million dollars. So you'll have to, you have to watch it to see what I did do.

Jerry Malcolm:

I would I wouldn't look at your event as just a real estate event. And I wouldn't look at

Grant Cardone:

the link, we have a front top Jerry. That's a good point. This is not a real estate event. Okay, this entrepreneur conference, where you get to meet 12 billionaires over the period of three days, they're going to share with you how they started from nothing. And that how they've stayed relevant, how they've done it in multiple industries, and interviewed them and they'll share their stories. Very, very aspirational, very inspirational three days. And I'm just so proud. This our six one, we've sold out 34,000 person events, 12,000 person events. And this event is sold out. So

Unknown Speaker:

I'm so glad you said that I'm gonna buy it for my son for his birthday, which is March 22. I love

Grant Cardone:

it. That's awesome. Yeah. And you guys, when you guys grab the virtual link, if you're looking at it right now, you can watch it later with your office. There's in two in two weeks, you'll know who's gonna who spoke there. And I promise you, if I told you right now, you would stop everything you're doing. If I told you the list of speakers, and you would make sure you're there.

Jonathan Bing:

Absolutely, guys, listen to me, guys. One. One moment, like, let's do it. How

Grant Cardone:

big a name would I have to bring Jonathan to impress you?

Jonathan Bing:

Grant, you've done it already? Yeah, the names that you have had on your stage has been impressive. I mean, and the fact that these people that you have done already, when you look at all the Snoop Dogg and you look at look at all Oh, yeah. Michael Johnson, Magic Johnson,

Grant Cardone:

all of that. Now you understand I have to beat what I did last year. Yes. So I have to I got to make it bigger this year than it was in the past. And we bought ready Forbes Magazine rated us the number one business entrepreneur conference on planet Earth. That's Tony Robbins, be con, Microsoft events, listeners, Salesforce events, these are multi 100 billion dollar companies. And they said that the TEDx conference is the best business entrepreneur conference on the planet. So hope you guys come if you can come in person, man, the best way to come is to come in person. And if you can't do that, make sure you you watch it on your, your your phone, you

Jonathan Bing:

know, once I got once I got there guys, right up top is the link for the virtual right now. If you hit that link, you can get it virtually for free because it's $97 and Brent's gonna give you guys a $97 credit store credit. So you guys get a lot of cool teknicks merch, okay guys, and believe it or not, when you wear that to next merch, you become part of a community

Grant Cardone:

just to correct you can also use that money for boot camps, sales workshops, marketing workshops,

Jonathan Bing:

yeah, but the merch is better grant so I could I could pay for that. I'll pay for that out my own pocket, because I'm gonna tell you something. When I walk around with tenants merch, people stopped me and asked me question you you're part of a tribe that you didn't even know you're part of. That's why I mentioned it grant. So when I wear my 10x 10x shirt or something like that, there's always always a conversation starter and People are going to talk to you about it. So, so we were always gonna stop and talk to you and ask you about it and they're not going to talk them to stop asking about sports or something crazy. They're going to talk to you about making money. And so you know, you're gonna find people right there in your community that's right around you, that shares the same things, I guess the visions, and I guess thought process that you do. So it introduces you it opens you up to a whole new world, just being able to walk around with that TEDx merch because people have become to know what that means.

Grant Cardone:

And John, Jonathan 10x is literally It's way bigger than me, you know, if I was to DOD and I 10x will go on to next is a community of people worldwide. And everybody knows what 10x is. It means to expand it means to get bigger. It means to grow your family, grow your network, grow your customer base, grow your brand, 10 times bigger than your dreams. And and people resonate with that. And when they see that 10x They're like, Oh, man, you part of the thing. Like I hear this from people all over the world. People are traveling, maybe they have their 10x hoodie on or something they're like, oh my god, you you know Grant Cardone, if you've been to a conference, it is a it is a whole kind of Bob thing about people that want to expand and do great things on this planet.

Jerry Malcolm:

A grant if you have one other person, you speaking about the speakers. But if you have one other person other than yourself, that's that's that's big in itself. And I'm saying this because that I'm listening, you say you got all these other speakers, which is great. But for those of you who've never been to a Grant Cardone event, him alone, if you got even one other speaker is a whole lot. So just grant alone, Grant. I didn't say this to you, but the way he was walking around that room speaking. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you engage with people. I don't know how you turn you on, but Oh, my goodness. I grant. I don't know how you flow the way you flow. I don't know how you pivot when somebody says something. It's just you're an amazing speaker and amazing teacher.

Jonathan Bing:

So your luck. Here we go. I said masterful. I said masterful. I'm agreeing with you. He's masterful. Okay, can

Jerry Malcolm:

I just talk Can I just

Jonathan Bing:

hit on Grant, go ahead. I just wanted Okay, go ahead. What eight to eight

Jerry Malcolm:

is real and clubhouse. So but no, on a serious note. When I when y'all just remember I said this, I want you one thing I'm gonna say. Y'all see grant on clubhouse, and y'all hear him. When y'all see him in person. It's just gonna feel a lot different. I just want to I just want to, I wanted to put that thing out. Get Y'all ready for the shell shock when y'all see him in his natural habitat is gonna feel a lot different than this guy you share stages with on the app every single day. It's a completely different situation. When you go to an event, you're gonna see just how large he is in real life. So I had to say that really quick. I was getting interrupted. I was trying to flow. But I

Unknown Speaker:

got this. Thanks, Jerry. Go ahead. Moving on, man. Enough about Grant.

Unknown Speaker:

Hey, hold on one thing one more thing. This isn't all serious. By the way. This is Iraq. This isn't all serious. We have some freakin unbelievable parties only go to this thing too. So we got to remember that too. Nobody mentioned that.

Jerry Malcolm:

He said the party. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker:

The clubhouse crew knew about

Jerry Malcolm:

strip clubs. The I'm sorry, miss you want to say Santa?

Unknown Speaker:

Yes. Hi. This is Mrs. Toy banks, the world's most satisfied wife and I just came on here to speak to the character of grant. I've been watching grant for years. I know he don't even know who I am. However, when you meet the people around them, and how they speak of him. It speaks to the main character, I went down to the next lady's event, I met a random girl or whatever who's licensed up under him. And when I tell you she just had raves about his character, his personality, his business, and everything. And I've already been watching him on I knew this, but it was so good to see that. I'm gonna say this. I'm a woman of God. And I have never seen I don't know if grant is a man of God or not. But here's what I'm going to say in the kingdom. A man in his family is the one who's supposed to take his family to a next level. And I've watched this man, first of all teknicks himself, then he teknicks his wife, then he tennis these children, and now he's teknicks in the world. And I just want to say that I am just baffled and I love what you are doing. I support it 100% I've seen you virtually and you're amazing virtually and I just I know that you are powerful in person. So I just want you to know that there are people out here that you might not know us by name, but we are watching appreciate you and we celebrate your character more than anything because to me when I'm following somebody when I'm buying their products and services, their characters everything to me and your character has been rock solid. And so I, you know, even just as a husband, I just admire you as a husband and how you rave your wife, I've watched several interviews with you and your wife and it's just been amazing. So again, I thank you.

Grant Cardone:

I can't tell you it really being that you're a woman of God and that you, you know, admire my character like that, because I'm, I'm a very colorful individual. And I know, a lot of people don't think like, you know, that maybe maybe I do things that are not, you know, God, like or approve the book. But spirituality is very, very important to me. And God is very, very important to me, and, and how I express myself might be in contradiction with some beliefs, but the fact that you can see through all the noise and see me for who I am, I really appreciate that.

Unknown Speaker:

So if I can just come in here quickly. Yes. Yeah. So far the so grant, I don't know if you remember this, but when you were in the by, you were into we, you were doing your interview with Santa Azzam, from Mina speakers. This was sometime back Yeah, I think about in 2018, or 19. Sometime around that time, just before the pandemic winner flaunted by Salah zom is one of my mentors. And I was the first one to have started up her website, Mina speakers. And I was there in the same room when you were doing the interview. And that's where that was my first interaction. And for you to see in terms of spirituality, I think from a third eye perspective, I would I would put it out there that your personality is humane and down to earth. Which is, which is the basics of you know, of just being a human. And that's true to all types of spirituality. So I think you got yourself covered there, too. So yeah, that's all I wanted to say. Hey, Grant,

Grant Cardone:

thank you. Oh, come on, guys. Y'all gotta stop this man. Thank you guys so much.

Unknown Speaker:

One more Peter. Peter, here. Come on Grant. One more, man, you're deserving of it, pal. Listen, Brian benstock About a month, month and a half ago refer to a book out to everybody. And it was the 5am club by Robin Sharma. And there's a quote that I've read in one or two other rooms on this app. And I'll make it real quick here. But but this is this is right at you grant. Right. This is what I think of when I read this. The quotes in the book says always remember that the greatest of leaders, we're all servant leaders, the less you make it all about you. And the more your obsession focuses on the upliftment of others, the more you'll increase your identity as a genuine Empire Builder and grow into a history maker. So you continue to build your empire and you continue to make history grant because you're lifting up everybody along the way, power.

Unknown Speaker:

Thank you. Thank you, Peter.

Jerry Malcolm:

Okay, thanks, everybody, for all the compliments. appreciate y'all for you know, sharing in and pouring into Mr. Grant Cardone. That's on Jonathan's BFF. That's Jonathan's boo. That says bromance, Jerry. Jerry, you're cool, too. You're cool. We love you dairy. We love you. Hey, thank you. So, so yeah, so make sure everybody that hasn't done so already. You click the link at the top. All the information is there. And yeah, you have a wonderful experience. Remember, keep in mind he said there's a few tickets available for the VIP and for the fee another edition of it, but it's all in the link. And then you got the virtual event this there. Thank you, everybody. So Mr. Jonathan Bing. Is this something you else? I mean, or do we start with that L or do I? Yeah, I guess we do. We're in the landing mode, everybody. It's, uh, you know, we go grant, do not grant I gotta tell you so I got a seeker grant.

Grant Cardone:

Grip, a record gas, record grass prices, record oil prices, record inflation, record jobs, but no wage growth. By the way, wage growth is going down. Everybody here. There is a war in this country happening right now. We are funding a war contrary to bullshit, Jonathan. That's so nice to host this room every night. We are at war. You don't need a President to sign something to say we're at war. That's not when the war starts. The wars already started your but your tax dollars are funding a war in a country that you may never visit. Okay? Now, whether you're for that or not just understand you are at war. Right now America is at war. Your tax dollars are at war. And while we send money and energy and resources there We're not paying attention to our own country, our own failing schools, our medical system, our highways, our school, like everything is deteriorate in America and we're sending money to other countries, or we're sending them to mass that aren't us. are we sending the vaccines that I may or may not want to put in my body? So hope everybody wakes up keep coming here. Keep showing every if they follow the club debate the new shit, Jerry?

Jonathan Bing:

Yeah, we've

Jerry Malcolm:

been getting quite a few follows. How many you got Jerry? We got a few stingy ones that don't want to follow I think we only had about Jonathan we we 4000 yet are we afford

Grant Cardone:

4100 right now and we got out 10,000 Y'all gotta help us get to 10,000 Oh, come on, guys. Yeah, yeah, we

Jerry Malcolm:

need that too. Yeah, it takes a minute to build the club. It took us a minute to get Yeah, it takes a minute to build these clubs up. So but if everybody comes in with these guys, yes. If y'all would just come in. You see, we have some. Dr. Katherine said it herself. We have an intellectual stage. Grant. Yo, can you read? Me All right.

Grant Cardone:

No, actually, yeah. Catherine, you bring up. Dr. CASS

Jerry Malcolm:

No, but when I let the doctor there's so much credibility. So if they say we have an intellectual stage, that means is

Grant Cardone:

Copeland's doing homophobic rooms?

Unknown Speaker:

That's what I heard. I heard that too. You know,

Grant Cardone:

I asked him the other night I said not now that the

Jerry Malcolm:

audio grant grant. He had to write a new album. He's

Grant Cardone:

pandemic sober. What are you gonna come up with now, man, and now we found out

Jerry Malcolm:

he switched the game and we have to put a new album together because that Oh, the other album played out? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah. So everybody once again follow the club. Oh, I was about to say to grant grant. I need to do me one favor. This way. The first time you ever did this, and he's not going to do it. Jonathan. He always leaves the last 30 seconds from landed. He gone he don't come back. I bet money comes back. Who Want to bet me $100 Right now he comes back. I put money you come back.

Unknown Speaker:

Who want to lose that bet dinner?

Jerry Malcolm:

Who wants to lose that bet? All right. I'm gonna count. I'm gonna come from 10 backwards. 10. Nine, eight. Grant seven. Grant six Dec. Five. Grant for great. 3210010. Okay, everybody. Listen. That was cute, though. That was fun. I want to thank all these incredible moderators. We might say some junk before I think these moderate Yeah,

Jonathan Bing:

Jerry. I want to once again, let the people know that we are a matter of fact, geek. Let the people know that we're podcasts. And I'll put the link up there.

Jerry Malcolm:

Yes. debate the news has taken the show on the road. We are live on all of your favorite channels. Spotify, apple. I can't I can't name the rest of them. Y'all know what it is?

Jonathan Bing:

It's your apple. I mean iTunes. You know tune in radio title.

Jerry Malcolm:

I thought he said y'all see what your name no. You see what I go on being

Jonathan Bing:

a good partner here man. Ricky work me.

Jerry Malcolm:

It's always about you, bro. It's all Yeah, exactly. Me moderate more than me. It's always about you. I mean, my my brother,

Jonathan Bing:

unfortunately, you know, yet. So it started when I was a kid that you know, I was one of 12 and I get a lot of attention. So if Dre unfortunately, I'm trying to compensate and get that attention here. So that's what happened.

Jerry Malcolm:

So we're an every single console. What is every single podcast period y'all check it out? It looks amazing. What about dropping the or you got it up top. So we got to sign up there. Y'all check it out. It is crystal clear. Y'all gonna love it. So another thing. Some of you come into the room. And y'all you know when the show was over? Y'all are listening to it on on this app. But we are going to be that's not going to be available is going to be there, man. I told you. I told you. I told you. I didn't lose nothing. I told him coming back. I knew he was going

Unknown Speaker:

to keep the room open long enough. You kept it long.

Jerry Malcolm:

I know grant see. Great to understand. Greg can help you. One thing about Grant and we're not gonna go in that I'm gonna say his last thing. What am I grant? He got something you can't help it. He has a heart. He has a he has a compassionate heart. So he'll go out of his way. He did that just because he knew he was like Jerry Brown. feeling stupid to go back. So appreciate you grant. Okay, what I'm doing now, but like in two seconds. But listen, y'all make sure y'all follow the club. We're gonna be everywhere where our podcast is gonna be absolutely incredible. Jonathan, I have a couple more announcements. This is gonna be coming up in the next week or so. This is bigger. This is bigger than his app. This is a movement. We're about to say some. You got to say some brave young Get Ready Start A Podcast. Oh, for those for those who don't know his new name is Brother G. You want to say some brother G Yeah, yeah,

Grant Cardone:

y'all. Y'all got started podcast? Yes, sir. I've got to hop on that with y'all. Man.

Jerry Malcolm:

Are you you know, are you ready? He must go. Yeah, yes. Let's do it. It's a done deal. So yeah, everybody once again. I want to ask you to follow the club. You guys know the new times three to 6pm. Pacific Standard Time. Six to 9pm Eastern time. So we'll be back here tomorrow. appreciate y'all make sure you follow the club Polly's incredible moderators. We got Beatty on the stage we got Ricky we got Joy to the world. We got Candace we got for hot we got CB we got Miss Cooper. Mariana. We got Angel. We got the cut you so I can hear you Mr. Lewis. We got Daphne, we got Miss pumpkin in the building. And we got my man. Mr. Jonathan Bing. How many of y'all wanna? How many y'all want to close the room? Or how many of y'all want to have a different type of conversation? Just keep it open a little longer. How many of y'all want to have a conversation? How many y'all want to feel it coming? How many y'all want to tell me I'm sorry. Like y'all want to have hours? Y'all wanna have longer? If you don't want to go outdoors, tap your mic. Okay, they won't tell me what you can see. Mila I can feel that Hey, Jonathan, you didn't want to go to after hours you just want to chill was one.

Jonathan Bing:

Jerry Landon this thing?

Jerry Malcolm:

Nah, dude, I want to keep it open for like another hour, bro. I'm gonna keep it like, I want to keep it like another hour. Anybody wants up for like another hour? Anybody on stage when she'll for our CB will? Candy. She wants you for our What about you? Joy, you're going to be okay, we love ya. I'm joking. Are we closing? Okay, everybody wants again, follow the club. And I want to thank everybody for coming out. Thank my man. Jonathan Bing. Your host, Jonathan Bing. I'm Jerry Malcolm. Make sure y'all follow us. You see the podcast up top. I will see everybody tomorrow. Everybody be safe. Make sure you wear your mask. Make sure y'all get y'all boosters. And we'll see you

Jonathan Bing:

right tomorrow and follow us power podcast. Guys. Come on, guys. Follow this podcast. Let's make some noise. Oh you guys, Peter. Peter told you guys are great. The podcast was Peter right.

Unknown Speaker:

Man, I'll tell you it's crystal clear. It's it's a great great playback man. Easy to download, easy to use, and very easy to share. So yeah, congratulations again, guys. Very well done.

Jerry Malcolm:

Appreciate you. So I will see everybody tomorrow. Don't forget the times three to 6pm Pacific Standard Time. Six to 9pm. Eastern time. We will see y'all tomorrow row. Have a good night everybody. Love y'all more. Have a good night everybody. Bye Bye. Good night, everyone. Bye bye night

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About the Podcast

DEBATE THE NEWS
Live Podcast Audience with Jonathan Bing on The Chatter Social App
Here at DTN, We DEBATE The News! We Have Live Audience of Thousands of People That Presents Their Interpretation On Today's Local, National, & World News Topics. Spirited & Informed Discussions Are The Required. Our Co-Hosts Jonathan Bing and Daphyne Christine Engages The Audience and Sharpen Their Minds with Intellectual Combat!
We Record The Podcast Live Weeknights On The Chatter Social App: M-F 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM EST / 5:00 PM - 6:30 PM PST

About your hosts

Daphyne Christine

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Jonathan Bing

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Jonathan Bing is a leading successful mortgage industry professional with 20 plus years experience. He is the EVP and founding partner of NationMac Mortgage a direct national lender. Jonathan has created many top mortgage and real estate resources for both industry professionals and consumers.
An avid art enthusiast and traveler, Jonathan enjoys traveling to Europe and fine dining. He is passionate about news, politics, and social issues. He is also a very passionate husband and father that currently resides in Burlington County New Jersey.