🦠BA.2 Soon Become Top Variant 🚫 GOP Breaks with Trump on Ukraine 🇺🇦 Supreme Court Nominee with Jerry Malcolm, Grant Cardone, and Jonathan Bing

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to bait the news in case you forgot about to go down. I want to welcome everybody to debate the news on our Monday edition is feeling like summer out here in beautiful sunny Southern California. How's everybody doing a nice beautiful day. Look we got something interesting y'all they tell about this bat no be a dot too soon to be the top variant. We got some stuff going on with you. Which almost said what you end up hungers. We got some stuff going on with you Trump lovers out here. This interesting we got some going on with the Supreme Court. How are my beautiful moderators doing in the building today? How are you guys doing? How's your weekend?

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Awesome.

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Great week last night was amazing. Very

Jerry Malcolm 4:40

last night was absolutely amazing. But look before we get this started, I got 46 shares on the wall. I am trying to get to about 100 Matter of fact, I'm not even sure we're going to start until we get to at least 100. So I'm going to ask you to share some on the wall share some cool, let your friends know that we are in here. Also we got chat open early today. So tell me what you guys want to talk about. But most importantly, I'm going to ask everybody to grab their device and hit that little share. And ping, ping, ping, and let your friends know that we are absolutely live right now. I'm up to 56. Why y'all being so stingy? My man Jonathan Bing is in the building. Mr. Bing.

Jonathan Bing 5:21

: 2022

Jerry Malcolm 7:22

You know why? You know why? That's what's so beautiful about this show. Because it enables me to do other things during the day sometimes. And I could come here and learn new stuff, just like what you just said. But we're gonna do something a little different today, Jonathan, all these people that are in the room today, we're gonna do something a little different. I want people to come to the stage that's going to absolutely participate. We have a powerful stage, it's going to get more powerful with some incredible people. But we want you guys to participate. So as I look to the stage, if you're not participating, I'm going to take it as you're sleepy, and I will replace you with somebody else. There's going to join in. So yeah, but Jonathan a plane went down. Wow. Nelson Did you know

Jonathan Bing 8:01

playing with China Nelson.

Jerry Malcolm 8:04

Touch with the news man. I'm so out of touch. I didn't know Nelson was on the goddamn Nelson mute a mute your mic Nelson Meacham I

want to say that a Nelson say something really quick say something else. Well, Michael, me Well, Michael, me. Well, Michael. Got me. Let's go. So yeah, so what's going on with that plane? Or I mean, how many casualties was it? Was it something

Jonathan Bing 8:39

major is always major you lose life? I think it's 100. And what was that?

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37 130 232.

Jerry Malcolm 8:46

Wow. Well, let's put some prayers out for him. I didn't know nothing about that. Wow. So yeah, so Bobby, what's going on in your town Bobby, you're hinting about is this is this ba to ravaging through your country?

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Snot in Canada, but I have a lot of friends in Hong Kong. And they're scared shitless it's very real. They're like, they have a part of the city where it's just like coffins and they're just piling them up. And apparently they're like, running out of coffins. Like it's it's really, really serious. Yeah, I don't know. I am worried to be honest, because I wanted to start doing some live events because in Toronto, we're starting to explode. We literally got our masks off today for the first time in two years. So everyone's going crazy. But now you check out Asia, parts of Europe. This ba to sounds very, very real. I'm pissed off about it. But like literally my friends in Hong Kong are like people are dying. They're sick. Like it's, it's not a joke.

Jerry Malcolm 9:49

There's this this is crazy. Just when we were thinking that COVID was gone. Or actually they said it was you know, almost next to nothing. Now all of a sudden it just it's just creep back up. Once again, God,

Jonathan Bing: 10:02

where do you get your news from?

Jerry Malcolm: 10:04

Well, I'm getting my news from the pro vaxxers is always wrong. That's where I'm getting my news from. Don't watch TV, there's no COVID. Right, right, exactly. Like I'm getting my news from, you know, apparently, well, let me say this. It's been everywhere. Then all of a sudden I stopped seeing it. I watched the news. You know, I don't watch it every single day. But I do watch the news. But it's just it's just come to a halt. When we do our little production meetings, Jonathan, how many I mean,

Jonathan Bing: 10:32

I headlines we see about COVID in the last couple of weeks. Now starting to come up again, all of a sudden with China. Now that there's always some there's there's some headway headlines. It's just not headlines that we will use here. But Dr. Catherine is here. Dr. Captain, I need to ask you a question. When did you hear that? COVID disappeared to almost nothing where you're were you given that memo as well, because Jerry C never gotten that memo. Dr. Catherine, are you there? Jonathan? I heard all presidents say that.

Jerry Malcolm: 11:01

Looks like she's on a call. Wait, what did Alvin say? Well, I'm sorry. What do you say Mr. Hope, John, our president say that COVID was on the backburner. That's what I heard too. But

Jonathan Bing: 11:16

on the back burner. I don't think he's ever had that made that statement. Wow. No, no. You need first of all, you need to be on the Dirty Dozen list. And I'm gonna see if I can get you on there. We got Mercedes Benz stock in the building. Right. I mean, Mustang Mercedes Benz stock in the building. So Mercedes, what are your thoughts on that? Mercedes? Do you think that COVID disappeared, and it is making its way back?

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I don't think it

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disappeared. I just it's difficult to say I think it's all like played out.

Jonathan Bing: 11:52

is played out. Okay. Then because what the war in Ukraine?

Unknown Speaker: 11:57

Yep. That's suddenly dying down. And now again, COVID spec.

Jonathan Bing: 12:01

Wait a minute. They're pounding. They use a height they got hypersonic weapons and everything else never does dying down.

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It's dying down on the news.

Jerry Malcolm: 12:13

This is no mistake. It's no secret, bro. Anybody in this in anybody in this room? Let's just keep it real. I'm talking to the pro vaxxers. Also, let's keep it real. Did y'all notice that COVID News has dropped like about by 90%. Is there any pro Vax or somebody is vaccinated is going to deny that?

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I agree. I totally agree. There's no,

Unknown Speaker: 12:35

I'm not gonna do that. But you know what, if you look at the news cycle, the top headlines are Supreme Court nomination. 132 people passed away in China from a plane crash. And they're still talking about January 6 stuff. There's nothing on my new cycle about COVID Ba dot two. So it's leading me to believe that the administration is not taking it that seriously because if there is an outbreak and a surge that goes up in the US, and we're talking about it now, and it happens in two months or two weeks. It doesn't look like the administration. It's a top priority, because they would be screaming, like crazy. Fauci finally came back and said something and he goes, I'm going to be here until until the end until we do that. Well, you know what, Jen? Frankly, he's irrelevant. If he's not having a COVID talk, because nobody cares about him. He's power hungry, just like everybody else. But hey, Francis,

Jerry Malcolm: 13:23

Francis, the way it works is you let somebody finish speaking then you jump in, that's how it works. Francis, my bad, sorry. It's okay. Go ahead. Go ahead and land your plane storm.

Unknown Speaker: 13:32

Yeah, I just wanted to say why is Fauci not saying the precautions that we need to lock down and start things if it's in Hong Kong right now? And it might be coming over here? How are we going to defend this? That's my question to John. So

Jonathan Bing: 13:45

you say defense. So um, you said that Fauci should suggest a lockdown and cause us to midterms? Have you lost your damn mind?

Unknown Speaker: 13:54

You just proved my point.

Jonathan Bing: 13:58

Are you talking about why are we going to risk midterms on a on a lockdown because people

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would die? Would you rather risk midterms or rather list human life and it seems to me you know, more than human life to

Jonathan Bing: 14:10

the people that's gonna die most likely the people that's out there not taking it seriously.

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Well, I beg to differ. You're

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kidding Jonathan, right. You tell me you're kidding.

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Jonathan.

Jonathan Bing: 14:22

Hey guys mica I'm just saying is hurt. If they're if they're going out there and applying for the Herman Cain award and they get the Herman Cain award that's Oh, no, because guess what, you we you you know better than go out there. I'm protected. He knew better than to go to that back that come that Trump rally I'm protected so if that's what they're looking for, you know, I'm saying they're most likely not voting on the left they vote on the right anyway. So did is

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to take proactive approaches on travel bans now instead of Leavitt coming to the US, because frankly, you're kind of it sounds like to me that you're waiting for it to get here and then you're gonna mask up and socially distance and hope doesn't get to you. I would be a little bit more preemptive if this is such a serious strain and more highly transmissible and deadly and it's going down in Hong Kong right now find a way to contain it. Do not let him come over here. That would be my thought. What are your storm?

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I just want to say something it's underneath what Jen Psaki mentioned it I talked spoke about it yesterday, and Fauci over the weekend, say he has a high likelihood that we'll need to have a lockdown. I don't know what you're talking about when I

Jerry Malcolm: 15:25

know we know that, bro. We know. Listen, that's why we have it in our title. We know it's on there now. But they weren't talking

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about it the last few days. They have been I've known about this. Well, Francis,

Jerry Malcolm: 15:34

here's the thing, Francis, they have been saying like in California, for example, they said the mask are no longer needed. They're saying cases are down everywhere. They were saying it's almost next to nothing. That's what they were saying in the news. Right, then all of a sudden, next

Unknown Speaker: 15:50

to nothing. They will say cases are declining. Yes. With us. That's such as the waste surges go cases when declining. Yes. Then when China shut down, it was all over in the news. I've been monitoring this on my Yahoo feed and on MSN.

Jonathan Bing: 16:05

And we've been talking about it Jerry.

Unknown Speaker: 16:07

Yeah, we've been talking about it. So it's misinformation. They've been taught

Jerry Malcolm: 16:10

No, but bro, you taking stuff out of context. Of course we were talking about it once they put it up. But in the beginning of March, they weren't talking about everything. Only thing he was focused on was it was a was a Ukraine war. And they were saying how they're

Jonathan Bing: 16:23

jumping now. So what are your thoughts Nelson? Nelson's getting fitted for a suit that hey,

Unknown Speaker: 16:29

could I this is Tara, let me just mention one thing to storm storm. It is estimated now that the bat variant, the Omicron variant, which is what's causing most of the cases in Hong Kong, I believe is already 25% of the cases here. So the idea of a lockdown just doesn't make sense. It's highly transmissible. It's already here. I'm sorry, not locked in the idea of banning travel or something like that. I don't understand why you think that would make any sense. Yeah, this

Unknown Speaker: 16:58

is gonna lock down with those aren't gonna work store. No, we don't need to lock down. We don't need to ban travel. This, this variant is already in the United States. So it's really going to impact those people who don't have immune protection. And that's what we're seeing in the other countries too. People who are having a problem with this have either never been vaccinated, their immune compromised, or they've never been naturally infected and gained a little more protection that way. There's a big problem because unfortunately, in those parts of Hong Kong, the elderly declined vaccination and that's why their death rate is as unfortunate as it is from this very, is not

Jerry Malcolm: 17:37

true. What's not true about it, Debbie?

Jonathan Bing: 17:41

Debbie, just make your facts so she could have like five different fax wise. JB you can just use them you don't need fax like Debbie, tell us why it's not true.

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Sorry, my apps glitching because of the chat. Um, first of all, completely contradict No,

Jerry Malcolm: 17:58

it's funny, it acts up something.

Unknown Speaker: 18:00

It's your victory to the pattern that all the vaxxers wanted. As COVID was starting and when Trump was implementing those orders, and then Biden making the lockdown. Everyone's like, oh, we need to stay locked up. We need to see mass and now you're saying oh, it's already here. We don't need a lockdown mask. So how is Storm wrong? We know we need

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to mass we don't need to lock down. That's like you. You miss that? That true.

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You got to work.

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The math word. Math is up to you.

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But you will transmit if you don't. Now that no.

Unknown Speaker: 18:51

That does not work. It's not true. Yes, it is not.

Unknown Speaker: 18:59

So I'd like to ask Dr. Catherine a quick.

Jonathan Bing: 19:02

One second. Yeah, once it goes back to storms. Ones one second man. One second, ma'am. Okay, because Debbie, we call Debbie. Debbie just pivoted on you guys. And she did that Debbie thing you guys didn't even notice it. Debbie, you said is not true that the aliens, the elderly were dying in Hong Kong because they weren't vaccinated. That's what God was not true to. So you've never touched that you went somewhere else. And you did a hocus pocus and they went with you. I get it. You're good, but I gotta call you out. So let's go back. Debbie. What's not true about that statement?

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Which statement

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I like the use of hocus pocus.

Unknown Speaker: 19:53

Dying in Hong Kong that was the first thing that you said

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elderly dying or Hong Kong. How do you know that? How do you know that Tierra

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Dr. Catherine, would you care to take this one?

Unknown Speaker: 20:04

Your nose everything though she does, but I don't know where she got it from.

Jerry Malcolm: 20:07

You know, it's interesting. I see her eye on the news. You know, you know, it's interesting. I understand. Debbie Debbie Debbie, one second. I understand what see what storm was saying. And this is interesting. It's like, if you're going off of science storm, if you're going off of science, why did you ever even stop what you were doing that you felt is why cases start dropping in the first place? Why do you stop doing it?

Jonathan Bing: 20:35

Oh, before we do that, cuz I want to meet this deputy. Oh, man, we've still in there, man. Are we getting off the hook? Because she did. And you we asked that question. She did says not true. So I'd still out still want to know why is it not true? Because Debbie, do you have answered before we move on? Yes or no? Debbie, do you have an answer? She does. Okay. Okay, go back to you, Jerry now, because I want it because no, Debbie. We're gonna call that out. You're gonna make statements like that. Put doubt out there. We're gonna call it out. Back to you, Jerry.

Jerry Malcolm: 21:09

That's why I picked it from her. She clearly wasn't going to answer it. mean it was like pointless thing on the grill? No,

Jonathan Bing: 21:15

that's your girl, man. You got to protect it. That's why

Jerry Malcolm: 21:18

no, she she she she told me but but you know, sometimes she just doesn't. She doesn't come prepared. But I was our thing.

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You heard me because my app was glitching.

Jerry Malcolm: 21:29

Well, go ahead, Debbie. Go ahead and say what you got to say great, Debbie.

Unknown Speaker: 21:32

So it's kind of funny that you guys are bringing up the elderly dying because I actually asked this question and Copeland's room. And the NIH actually came out with that. The elderly are dying because of the vaccine because they didn't include them enough in the clinical trials. Oh my god. No, true

Jonathan Bing: 21:52

was Debbie. Debbie. Can

Jerry Malcolm: 21:53

you see me? Debbie? Debbie? Semia article, Debbie. Debbie. Don't say Debbie. Don't say something like that. Unless you got an article. If you got an article,

Unknown Speaker: 22:00

you have an article because I probably wrote the article.

Jerry Malcolm: 22:04

No, no. Debbie, send it to me. Send it to me. And I promise you're gonna check it out. Because

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she can write I don't think we know that. Not because

Jerry Malcolm: 22:11

Debbie, I'm gonna say this. I know. Debbie, I know everybody.

Unknown Speaker: 22:19

How did she get me we don't have we never know what Debbie is. We do know what I

Unknown Speaker: 22:23

can't even answer my question. So there you go.

Unknown Speaker: 22:27

What the hell is your question? Or you know, I've said that. I've been very, okay. So the fact that I retired from the practice of law means I'm not a lawyer. Do you not understand or not studying law studying law lawyers practice, Debbie, after they study law? Perhaps you're not aware of that.

Unknown Speaker: 22:45

You don't keep up with the law. Okay. That's actually not true at all. But

Unknown Speaker: 22:49

this is a ridiculous conversation. Okay, let's let's

Jerry Malcolm: 22:57

listen. She said, You're not a lawyer. She's not listening. So if you you, you used to be you used to be a firefighter. He's still a firefighter. I mean, like, I don't get it. If you used to be a kid. Are you still a kid? I mean, I don't get it. I'm agree with her. She's not a lawyer. She used to be a lawyer.

Jonathan Bing: 23:15

No, no, no, no, that's That's true.

Unknown Speaker: 23:20

up your licensing, and you're registering, oh, she

Jerry Malcolm: 23:22

said practicing law. That's right, right. That's right. That's what I meant when she said practice practicing part.

Jonathan Bing: 23:29

Not so you just made you said,

Jerry Malcolm: 23:31

no, no, no, no, I don't know why you saying, I don't know why you saying? No, no, let me let me let me tell you what makes the ads. Let me tell what makes the asked when somebody comes in this app. Let me do it makes it ask when somebody comes into the app. We don't know shit about none of them. And we take everything what they say like in fact, that's what's been asked is, okay, so

Unknown Speaker: 23:50

just because you stopped practicing.

Unknown Speaker: 23:52

It's an absurd

Jerry Malcolm: 23:53

No, no, but just be I don't care if you got three law firms that don't make you an expert.

Unknown Speaker: 24:00

Or you're no longer a lawyer.

Jerry Malcolm: 24:01

We're not. I don't know what the hell are you talking about?

Jonathan Bing: 24:04

She's right here. She's what she said is what you contradicted what she said,

Jerry Malcolm: 24:09

Well, let me say this, let me let me say this right now, just slightly contradict this. I don't care if you got 10 law degrees. We got 10 law firms, it does not make you an expert, or no topic regarding COVID period. So just because you're a lawyer, firefighter

Jonathan Bing: 24:28

was the point. The point was, the point was exactly she wasn't talking about COVID. She brought Debbie brought that up. I don't know where today she's not a lawyer. So why are you arguing that Debbie just doesn't.

Unknown Speaker: 24:41

We would ask Debbie what her background is and she is refute repeatedly refused. And here used to be an expert on everything. i Oh my god. That's right. Thank you. She's trying to get the attention of herself into pivot It's a pretty good one but nobody's being fooled anymore. Okay, well

Jerry Malcolm: 25:03

good Debbie Debbie. Just to be fair, Debbie Debbie, real quick, Debbie. Just listen real carefully. Okay, because we got to put this to rest. Okay? Because you did. You did come in her about her profession. Debbie Debbie, Debbie Debbie, one second you, Debbie. Debbie, you did come after and I came to your defense like I always do. You follow me? I'll follow you Debbie just to put this to rest. Just so we can know. Debbie, what do you do for a living? I'm not gonna

Unknown Speaker: 25:31

be glitching again

Jerry Malcolm: 25:41

No, because you No, no, no, no. Listen, y'all see, I'm an equal opportunity. Call out her. Okay, so we talked about we talked about? Tara, Debbie. Debbie. I know us are glitching unmute your mic for a second Debbie. Is getting she can't unmute right now. Debbie. Unmute your mic. Don't make Debbie don't make me look stupid up here. I rock with Debbie. Debbie Debbie.

Unknown Speaker: 26:02

I don't claim to be something that I'm not Dr. copelan I know.

Jerry Malcolm: 26:05

But Debbie, Debbie. Debbie. Debbie. Just tell them what? Debbie, Debbie Debbie, okay, Debbie. I don't care if you say you're a cashier or if you drive an Uber is still you're still we're all equal. I'm just asking you what do you do? Oh my

Unknown Speaker: 26:31

god nurses. Like Dr. Dre.

Jerry Malcolm: 26:35

Dr. Feelgood

Jonathan Bing: 26:36

we got to feel good. She's a Massoud Debbie's a Mazouz

Jerry Malcolm: 26:48

I'm gonna says where do you work at where do you work? Do

Jonathan Bing: 26:52

you have a job Debbie?

Unknown Speaker: 26:56

You guys Hold on If somebody has a say if somebody takes care of their basically their house their house wife or a house husband maybe they live in a car it doesn't mean they're not smart and you can be a critical No no

Unknown Speaker: 27:09

no

Jerry Malcolm: 27:11

I know I don't know why. Why do you say that? Like we're trying to imply that see exactly what we're saying. You're not

Unknown Speaker: 27:19

bringing critical thinking because it was like when when

Jerry Malcolm: 27:24

we're in Baton Rouge was completely different. Here's the bottom line she called Tara out for not being a certain saying you know what she said? Allegedly does she called her up

Unknown Speaker: 27:34

on stage saying that she is a lawyer

Unknown Speaker: 27:36

I have always said I am not practicing currently. All the time. Jonathan Can you please back me up

Jonathan Bing: 27:44

but try even explain that what that does is give her some credence

Unknown Speaker: 27:50

is asked she clarifies that she's not

Unknown Speaker: 27:53

a practicing cube Brian I've said that frequent all

Jonathan Bing: 27:56

and all your anti vaxxers are going against your net. Debbie What do you do for a living

Jerry Malcolm: 28:04

Ahmad you up when you say uh Debbie Wait a second. What kind of she made me tell the truth. Wait a second. What kind of doctor are you Debbie Debbie what kind of doctor are you? Doctor? She said no, no and lol Doctor doctor. Oh my god. I can't record her no more. She won't even tell us what she do. I can't I can't even

Jonathan Bing: 28:30

actually leave the most voices now. On the room

Jerry Malcolm: 28:35

everybody nothing I need my answer. Look, I see hand raising I'm gonna bring some more anti vaxxers to the stage just did they can help represent a little better here.

Unknown Speaker: 28:47

Okay, I'm your number one guy dude.

Unknown Speaker: 28:50

Jerry. Jerry

Jonathan Bing: 28:55

a Jerry Hold on. First of all. She lives in Florida from Philly. Let's see what else says her name is Kylie not Debbie. I guess she's a social media manager and staff strategist. She's not a doctor. She has 60k Other clubhouse account? Thank you clubhouse people for digging it up Kylie now do you want to speak today Kylie Sheesh,

Jerry Malcolm: 29:21

Danielle way Debbie. Is your name Kylie.

Jonathan Bing: 29:27

Ana, she is let's be honest, she is.

Jerry Malcolm: 29:30

I might want to hire you if you're really good at that social media Philly accent

Jonathan Bing: 29:33

that's Kylie. Kylie guy, and she's been she's been trolling everyone for months. Apparently highly January. She's been trolling us.

Jerry Malcolm: 29:46

I don't appreciate y'all Wait, hold on. I don't appreciate y'all bullying Debbie right now this is it because she's a woman. No that was going on right now. No,

Jonathan Bing: 29:53

no, no. I had to facts in front of me right now. And he's

Unknown Speaker: 30:01

anti Beck's No,

Unknown Speaker: 30:03

troll.

Jonathan Bing: 30:05

Her name is Kylie. Hey Kylie. Hey, Kylie.

Unknown Speaker: 30:12

Jonathan Jonathan, you didn't know that was Kylie all the time? Oh my god, I

Unknown Speaker: 30:17

thought you guys knew that. It was that talking

Jonathan Bing: 30:25

Kylie so Kylie, so okay. You do social media stuff, Kylie. So who are you? Who are your social media strategist for?

Unknown Speaker: 30:35

Okay, number one. Jonathan, you act like you just broke news and I know exactly who told you that so you're not breaking any news?

Jonathan Bing: 30:48

or breaking news? When do when do send it to me dude, when do send it to me. Okay, I looked at it.

Unknown Speaker: 30:55

You like 100%?

Jonathan Bing: 30:58

Good. No, no you don't. Okay. All right. What's his name? Now? What's your girl? Oh, no, girl. It was no girl. Okay, it wasn't a girl. Alright, cuz she

Jerry Malcolm: 31:11

may have a reasons why she being discreet. She may have her reasons. Troll variant we're

Unknown Speaker: 31:16

talking about yo, Jonathan. You said you had the facts of funny you you wouldn't know a fact if it's smack you across. Oh shit. Who's

Jerry Malcolm: 31:24

that? Lady.

Unknown Speaker: 31:32

Unlike unlike most men in this room, I got the balls to stand up for a woman that's getting literally attacked by 500 people in this room.

Jonathan Bing: 31:42

First was ad fraud at first. Okay, we don't have anyone being attacks don't want to Okay, we have a troll being attacked. And guess what? We're gonna respect one second. We're gonna continue to respect her and hear her voice. Okay, even though we know what we know. So you standing up talking shit on an app, Mr. Tough guy. That's fine. But remember, it's just an app. Internet gangster? Oh, yeah, exactly.

Unknown Speaker: 32:09

Let's go keyboard gangster.

Grant Cardone: 32:11

He said he was sticking up for a woman. He got bigger balls.

Unknown Speaker: 32:16

and present them John. Jonathan, do you normally roast women publicly? Or is it just an app? So I'm curious.

Jerry Malcolm: 32:26

Let Jonathan Charles Johnson talk

Jonathan Bing: 32:28

once again. JD what I do JD is. You see, you're a dumbass. Okay, you're trying to make a point and you're failing miserably, because she was on the app calling someone else out. And we found out that her whole persona is fraudulent. Okay, now questioner? We questioned her about that. So Zedi I like I'm getting your punk as a voice. Alright, so there it is.

Jerry Malcolm: 32:55

Oh, Zedi look like you got some explaining to do brother Granthi.

Unknown Speaker: 33:00

Blade. Just Jonathan talks about troll his bowels just got sucked up all the night Alvin. Jonathan, with all due respect, and I'm listening to you for a long, long time. And you got some real progressive views about vaccines and mandates and all this bullshit. And it's it's sad to see that people like you actually exist, you know, and it's very, very unfortunate.

Jonathan Bing: 33:29

Once again, thank you very much. I want to join your compensation. Exactly. Xavi. I accept that and I receive it thank you so much, sir.

Unknown Speaker: 33:41

You know, Jonathan, you give me a hard time all the time. But man I can you like

Unknown Speaker: 33:46

talk to this guy? Fuck this guy.

Jonathan Bing: 33:48

No, I accept it. And I receive it

JD JD JD some JD you didn't say anything that I probably wouldn't say about myself. And that last paragraph so I'm not going to dispute that so you know and I receiving JD anything else you want to tell me all right, that was that was all I want to ask you. Much respect that you get you know, they're not on it. But I can't wait because as long as I can stay protected. I'm going to be quite happy but yes, I'm definitely gonna get I'm definitely gonna get my fourth and my fifth.

Unknown Speaker: 34:29

Absolutely. God bless Micah.

Jerry Malcolm: 34:32

Hey, wait a second. Bert was like 80 He got a little he do have a little balls too. I know it's on the internet. But she we all we all on the internet yapping off. So I say I'll give you a little credit for for being bold enough to face. Jonathan Bing. So I give a little credit for that

Unknown Speaker: 34:49

sad, not much of a face off. He's wrong on mandates. He's wrong about Russia, Ukraine. He's wrong about pretty much everything he speaks about every single day and I listened to him for quite a while ladies

Jerry Malcolm: 35:01

Hey, Florida Why are so many people jumping on Zedi he talking to Jonathan like Johnny

Unknown Speaker: 35:10

okay Jerry I can handle the heat.

Jerry Malcolm: 35:14

Okay, I'm eat my my glands at

Unknown Speaker: 35:15

Yeah, that's kind of funny that you say you can handle the heat cuz you got called out the same way Debbie got called out on the million marathon stage and there was nothing but crickets coming from yo as when you started talking about all your wealth and all the amazing things you do, and you couldn't even vouch for where the fuck you work either. Get the fuck out of here with that

Unknown Speaker: 35:33

book. Yeah, wow. What amazing things that I say I do. Could you please name one?

Unknown Speaker: 35:47

We'd love it if you name them right here, right? Well, no,

Unknown Speaker: 35:49

you're the one who made that statement. Not me. So you're saying that I said I do all these amazing things.

Unknown Speaker: 35:54

say one thing they weren't memorable.

Unknown Speaker: 35:57

say one thing that I said. Remember that though he was running him out in that room?

Unknown Speaker: 36:02

He made

Unknown Speaker: 36:03

John Luxaire threw you out

Unknown Speaker: 36:06

every time. Exactly. His face. Louise. You just made a statement that I said I do all these wonderful things. Can you name one? Are you just making things up? You know what?

Unknown Speaker: 36:20

Funny. Everybody's not making things out on your

Unknown Speaker: 36:28

name. One thing that I said is a wonderful question. Why can't you add to the question, Louis, he said I'm full of shit. It sounds like you're full of shit. My guy once Okay,

Unknown Speaker: 36:49

Jonathan one minute

Jonathan Bing: 36:54

all right, anyone? Someone got quiet. Okay, look, guys. We're gonna get back to debating the news we're talking about. Guys, I will tell you something you guys saw I received a phone call. Just a little while ago. Wow, those two is going back and forth. I'm gonna change my PTR and let you guys see the phone call was from it's just but go ahead. Jerry is Jerry. Jerry. There you go. Go ahead Jerry. Why change this PTR it's funny

I'm here it is right here. Here it is right here. And there you go. I'm gonna do it really quickly since Jerry did not jump in. There it is if you guys I'm right here John back. That he has a PTI that's that's he just called me. And he like hey, you know, we're really happy you decided to get your COVID vaccine. And they're telling me go get a booster shot. The booster shots and all this other stuff. I just received that call from the New Jersey Department of Health advising me that devoured the booster shots already at the girl. So guys, Abby, it's funny. Pumping.

Unknown Speaker: 38:09

Darling for Jonathan.

Jonathan Bing: 38:11

So So what I'm saying to you guys is, you know, they're doing that they're doing it for a reason. They're trying to keep us healthy. So but it's just ironic, a guy's that we're here talking about. That's exactly what we're speaking about. And I get a call from the New Jersey Department of Health, advising me that what's going on and the booster shots are out there and don't be caught on, I guess exposed. So, John,

Unknown Speaker: 38:36

do we know? Do we know if those boosters even touch the new variant? Like, do we know? Are they to two variants behind? Like, I don't know, I'm not being a dick. I

Jonathan Bing: 38:46

don't know. Does anybody know? Dr. Katherine, are you doing?

Unknown Speaker: 38:51

Yeah, from what I've seen the rack, the sub variant of Omicron is still holding up when it comes to lowering rates of people getting hospitalized and severely ill. But we're still waiting on the data. The that's all I got.

Unknown Speaker: 39:08

So basically, the people that are getting the boosters are guinea pigs, in other words, to gather data so that they know if it works or not. And that's why I chose to wait just

Unknown Speaker: 39:19

like Iraq, but I didn't say that. You know what if you're calling me a guinea pig, because that's what you say medicine and keeping myself from getting a preventable complication of an infection that's rampant and very contagious.

Unknown Speaker: 39:34

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait. I think it's Dr. Katherine. Dr. Catherine, you've said you just just just so I'm clear. And everybody if I'm losing my mind, tell me please but But you just said that they don't know they're waiting on data.

Unknown Speaker: 39:47

I didn't say so. We were all waiting to see Do you understand this? We're waiting to see right evolved right. So how are the vaccines please don't interrupt me. us how Are the vaccines holding up? And I told you, we, so far they're holding up, but we are still waiting to see. So I'm not telling you they're holding up 100%. And they're useless.

Jerry Malcolm: 40:15

Yeah, but that that statement does imply it is holding up that doesn't apply. And if the data is not in yet, I think it will be better if it's my opinion in my area. This is what we see what my people but that sounds and I see exactly what C rock is saying. It makes sense. What's the rocky said,

Unknown Speaker: 40:30

I follow up with them? What at what point is a fall off? Right? At what point? Is the expiration date? Anybody having taken the vaccine before? And do you go back six months? And there's anybody who's taken the vaccine before six months that they no longer covered? Or is it eight months? Or is it 10 months?

Unknown Speaker: 40:49

When there's gonna be no, there's gonna be no COVID vaccine that that takes care of all future variants. So if you're waiting for that, then yeah, you can just say I'm late waiting. I'm going to keep waiting. I'm going to keep waiting. Because it so the point is, the doctor is right. It's somewhere in between. You understand? I

Unknown Speaker: 41:09

don't know. I want to understand if I get a vaccine December. Am I still covered today?

Unknown Speaker: 41:15

No, no, but But before that, though, that was the booster that that's out now. The most recent booster we don't know if it hits the variance right now, or covers these variants. So we have to wait. I

Unknown Speaker: 41:26

just do that it's holding Oh, we do it's not a binary yes or no situation. So the way you know people want to see it is I'm either covered or I'm not covered. That's not how your immune system works. Can I read you guys?

Jerry Malcolm: 41:42

Rock I see rock I see rock I guess me you hear two different things. See rock. See rock? I thought I heard some difference. Iraq,

Unknown Speaker: 41:49

me to listen to the playback of this.

Jerry Malcolm: 41:57

I heard something completely different. I thought I'd say I thought she said that. Not the data isn't in yet. I could I could be wrong. Yeah, wait one second, one second. Let's get organized. But before we do, once again, I want to welcome everybody to debate the news. appreciate everybody for joining us. And if you look up top at that link, it says something interesting. It says debate the news is live. We have a podcast, all your favorite channels, if it's if it's apple, if it's on Spotify, whatever your favorite platform is, we are on there live. So if you missed any of our shows, you can go back and catch the replays and download them in the privacy of your home wherever you want to be. You can enjoy debate the news, but I'm going to ask you all to do some cool, we got 90 shares on the wall. We got 90. Let's get up to about 150 Y'all, it's not gonna cost you anything just to share it on the wall. Also, moderators, everybody on stage, everybody, audience, if you could just touch your phone for one second. I'm gonna do it right now touch that little thing. And we say invite people to the very bottom, you can see a bunch of green, green little dots, just start hitting those hitting those that's called ping, ping some people and invited me and we deeply appreciate that.

Jonathan Bing: 43:09

Make sure you guys are following the moderators as well. All these great moderators. I make sure you guys follow Jerry the best moderator on clubhouse. It makes you guys and speakers to make sure you guys follow Kaylee's Kylie collies her every night providing entertainment for us as well follow Kylie and let's keep the thing going.

Jerry Malcolm: 43:29

And Didi and when you come to the Kylie

Unknown Speaker: 43:36

party here

Jerry Malcolm: 43:39

for Kylie once again, Brian Kiley, you should literally be you know, hitting that send money button, because if anything, he's he's giving you some major marketing right now for free. And you being a marketer, you should see the value of that John is hooking you up.

Jonathan Bing: 43:56

Debbie, exactly, Kylie.

Jerry Malcolm: 43:58

He's hooking you up. You're all Yeah, so anyway, is there anybody else that want to jump in this conversation? We're talking about? We're talking about this new COVID But we got all these we got all these experts in here but when you really study science you look it up they say science is really a gray area right now. They say science at this point sometimes only gets it right 50% of the time but it's okay because they got the data is Anybody want to jump in like wow y'all y'all y'all that that that right? That rising I ruffle some feathers

Unknown Speaker: 44:31

that we were gonna finish ours Gary

Unknown Speaker: 44:32

was born. How many how many people have the Jeff who who becomes susceptible to this new variant? We got to look at those numbers.

Unknown Speaker: 44:41

I have an article from The Wall Street Journal if I can be so kind to read it.

Jerry Malcolm: 44:48

You couldn't give us a over a quick little overview of it cuz I don't know it could be two pages for me. What it was, was it basically saying this

Unknown Speaker: 44:55

data from the CDC This is from the Wall Street Journal today. Omicron surged three shots of Pfizer and Maderna vaccine was 94% effective against death or hospital treatment with a mechanical ventilator. It also says that the potency of the booster shot starts waning. I'm after. So it's 92% After two months. So what he's saying is, after you've had the booster go two months out, it drops down to 91% coverage. And then after four months, it goes down to 78%. Coverage.

Jerry Malcolm: 45:33

Okay, cool. I appreciate that. That, for me, that article means doesn't mean absolutely nothing to me personally. Because

Unknown Speaker: 45:42

the whole point of that, I mean, the Wall Street Journal and the CDC, right, the CDC has gotten vaccine thing with the efficacy. We're hearing much different numbers now. So if it just comes out today, and we still really haven't started the BA dot two variant, how are we to trust the CDC? How are we to trust anything that we're seeing in the Wall Street Journal? Because frankly, if you look at it, you know, what they're gonna say the answer is vaccines. Again, we're going back to a vaccine pushing a vaccine drive on something that's brand new that really the the NIH or anybody else for this variant able to give good

Jonathan Bing: 46:16

quality arm is a goddamn variant. Man, we tell me something new. This is not something that was a goddamn variant.

Unknown Speaker: 46:21

Okay, so it's been around for how long? Because you know, what new is usually within two years, and we don't have studies on two years of a BA dot two variants. So how, how new does it need to be to be very dangerous to say, This is what the efficacy is, when it's called have limited studies?

Jonathan Bing: 46:39

It's COVID. So it No, it's COVID. And you're presenting it like it's I'm new now. Guess what? I know this, I know that they're me taking my booster shot won't hurt me. Okay, the vaccine safe. I know that. So I rather take that. And guess what, and when they come out, and they find out that it is effective, great. I'm protected. And if they find that that is not no harm, no foul, you

Unknown Speaker: 47:03

know, let me ask you, though, Jonathan. Because here's here's where we ran into Omicron. Right? We ran in by saying the vaccine is not as effective on Omni Kron as it would be on Delta. Neither were monoclonal antibodies. Now we're getting to a BA dot two. And you know what they're trying to tell us that they have the answer for it, even though we haven't studied it thoroughly. I don't know every variant is different. And what I'm just saying is, how can you be so confident that a booster is going to get you there when it's a brand new variant?

Unknown Speaker: 47:33

Can I jump in? It's a sub there I've dropped in.

Jonathan Bing: 47:36

Is this correct? It is a sub area

Unknown Speaker: 47:40

okay, a sub area or just tell me the difference between the sub because the sub Aryan is still different from the omnicar? Correct.

Jerry Malcolm: 47:47

A mute your mic, that guy you got a loud mic, whoever you are. A

Unknown Speaker: 47:53

You seem pretty worried and hopped up and worried. And I think you're creating a little more fear than then as needed

Jerry Malcolm: 48:00

storm. Storm, I think, I think when this thing first came out, and they said that it would stop the transmission of it. Do you remember that storm? Then he remixed that later? Do

Unknown Speaker: 48:12

you remember that storm? Thank you, Jerry.

Jerry Malcolm: 48:14

They said they would stop the transmission. Then they remixed it, I could go down the list. Matter of fact, if I'll take about five minutes and dip out for a second, I will come with a list of all these things that they remixed. It's so interesting when a doctor has come to the stage, as if though they're experts on on the way this thing is going. And the science that they're following. They're even contradicting themselves. We get it. We get it. It's a virus that's changed like Dr. Ross said it's like it's like a moving target. But but the way these doctors talk about it, as if they got the whole thing unlocked and calling, calling storm to be like he's spreading fear. Was he supposed to do when the messenger does give out the messages? They're not even consistent with their message? Storm? You're not doing anything wrong, brother. Don't. Don't let nobody make you feel that you crazy because you're just speaking the facts of what the science was saying man stole one of the most dangerous people on his app store.

Jonathan Bing: 49:05

Oh, god damn family gave it to his whole goddamn family.

Unknown Speaker: 49:08

And you believe that gentleman? I just have to say this because I hear doctors on the stage. And I think we all have heard them for many months. And they've always spread that they are so right. And they're such an expert, and that's fine. They're a doctor. I can't really, you know, I can't take away the credential. However, I think we all no matter what our profession. We're critical thinkers and we also see what this remix is doing. We have gone from vaccine as the answer to vaccine efficacy. You're not going to transmit to go to transmit now wear masks because masks are good socially distance and we're finding out that n 95 masks are effective. However, these cloth masks aren't as effective. There are so many different things that we have gotten so many messages on confusion. I'm not spreading fear. Come on the people who say go get vaccine and blindly without their primary care physician get any advice whatsoever. That's what's fear monger. That's what's danger. I'm not afraid of a variant anymore. And you know why? Because frankly, even the government can't get it right. So I trust the government or a doctor who doesn't know a damn thing. As far as how this variant is going to play out in the United States, because they can't predict the future. I'm going to basically go on my critical thinking, if I think there's danger out there, I'm going to stay home. That's all there is to it. I'm going to take precautions, but the fact is, I'm not going to live my life in fear. And I think that's where you guys get it wrong. I'm not going to fear you got a question

Jonathan Bing: 50:27

for you, storm? I have a question for you. Are you are you just trying to discredit the doctors? Or do you disagree with the doctor,

Unknown Speaker: 50:33

I don't discredit any doctor, I have a high level of disagreement, but they discredit themselves when they speak about things that you know, for a fact are not best for you. And the reason why is because no doctor on this stage has been my primary care physician. They don't know my medical history. They don't know my wives. But yet we were thinking about vaccinating children from five to 12. Because we thought that would be beneficial. And there were doctors saying that that was a healthy and good thing. You've got to be kidding me. Guys. Come on.

Jonathan Bing: 51:03

Let me ask you questions, dorm, does those antibodies stops infections? Yes or no? Anybody's not antibodies?

Unknown Speaker: 51:10

Do anybody stopping infection? They fight it? Yes.

Jonathan Bing: 51:13

Yeah. Right. In it clear. Kills infection, right. That's what you use. Right? And it prevents it as well. Because now is that do you agree? Yes. No,

Unknown Speaker: 51:23

anybody's fight infections? What? What's your leading question that you're trying to get me trapped in? Just go ahead and get

Jonathan Bing: 51:29

this? No, no, I'm not. I just asked you a question. If you agree with that. Yes or no. Yes, I agree. You made the statement.

Unknown Speaker: 51:34

And I know we are going to go ahead, do part two.

Jonathan Bing: 51:38

So the part two of that is, no, you don't have to have a physician, your primary care physician doesn't have to be on stage to tell you that. Okay. But it's true. It's facts.

Unknown Speaker: 51:49

Okay, so there's a difference between antibodies and a vaccination. Jonathan, do you know the difference between antibodies?

Jonathan Bing: 51:56

One's a proper lactic Okay, and one's medicine? Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 52:02

Let me ask you this for a vaccination for me. Should I go get vaccinated? Would it make me stronger? No,

Jonathan Bing: 52:08

no, no, no. Fight the in fact what know what you're saying, but you made a very broad statement, I'm gonna just meet, you said that any doctor that gets up here and get tries to give out any medical advice does not my primary physician, you know, is discrediting themselves. And that was a very, very broad statement. And there's many, many things that they can say, you know, like cyanide will kill you if you ingest it. But, you know, if they tell you that and anything that they discredit himself, then you're welcome to go grab a cat, a tablet of cyanide and try it out and test it to prove them wrong.

Unknown Speaker: 52:43

Jonathan, can you die of water? Of course, you could die water, you could die of anything. So we're talking about not cyanide. I don't know where you pull these things out of the air from let's just unclear. It's dangerous to give universal blanket information as a doctor to somebody who doesn't know the health history of someone. And that was my point. My point is something that a diner when they should get vaccinated, and here's why. That's the problem. I've heard that many times you and I both know that's true. So you can't deny that fact. Because it's on replace all over your rooms. Would you agree?

Unknown Speaker: 53:17

A storm was tired. I don't wait, wait, wait, wait a second.

Jonathan Bing: 53:24

Okay, I'm not passing on it cuz I'm not gonna answer it. Okay. Well, I

Unknown Speaker: 53:27

wanted to say

Unknown Speaker: 53:28

something. Stephanie, can I go?

Unknown Speaker: 53:32

Past why not?

Unknown Speaker: 53:33

It was really about it's obviously I certainly I respect storm. And Jerry, you're right to whether you choose to get vaccinated or not. Except storm. When you look back. In hindsight, that's why they say is 2020 It's Monday morning quarterbacking, of course, in the more time goes by, you're gonna see there's been a lot of mistakes. There has been a lot of mistakes. And, Jerry, when you talk about, you know, you're right to Vax, or not to Vax. And you considered the people that Vax our followers sometimes. No, no, no, we're leaders on this side, too. And, you know, what I did is I took the data and I decided, you know, what, Jonathan made the crystal clear point and it's, it's great. No harm, no foul. You know, that's what we fought for in the cannabis space. It's like, listen, try this stuff. It may help you. But if it doesn't, no harm, no foul with this vaccination. Yeah, this is not covering all the variants, things are changing all the time. It's going to help with some of the variants. But if it doesn't, no harm, no foul. It's very important. So that what I'm just saying, when I'm making my decision on this side to get vaccinated with my boosters, Jerry, I respect you completely. Except Believe me, I'm not a follower. And I just want to say storm sums up to you but yeah, the looking back, the hindsight is 2020 years from now that's wrong, that's wrong. And another month, you're gonna have more wrong stuff. That's just how it goes down. I'm done.

Unknown Speaker: 54:47

And raising, just want to just constantly address me real quick. That's what's so confusing about this. You know, when we're getting a hard sell, it makes us question why are they pushing so hard? And why are they using it as a blanket tool instead of individually, you know, analyzing, hey, is this right for you, I am willing to bet that vaccinations are good for people boosters are good for people, there are some people that are at risk that need them. However, I'm just a little nervous with my own immune system, as Jonathan brought up, you know what, I have fought it twice. And you know what, there could be another variant that comes out or a sub variant that maybe my immune system reacts differently to, however, there is a risk reward with boosters when you continue to introduce something into your body. That is something that hasn't been tested for 20 years, it's only been on a two year cycle. It makes me nervous. And granted, you can look at the things in your food, you can even look at, you know, anything infection wise, and you say, well, vaccinations have been around forever. You're right. But this vaccination has not this vaccination was rushed through. And this vaccinations still is finding a lot of adverse effects that weren't accurately reported. So that was my concern, Todd, I believe that you guys have 100%, you know, as far as a choice, and I think I've made my choice. But for somebody to come back and push a vaccine at me in six months, when I haven't gotten vaccinated, the first three variants, what makes me think that they're going to come out with some new and improved thing that they have these great studies on, that are going to all of a sudden take care of this sub Darien

Jerry Malcolm: 56:17

storm storm. Wait, no stuff, you gotta you gotta wait a second. Let me say some storm really quick. When you when you when you do research, and I respect what you said, I'm Todd, did you guys did your research. But when you do research, like I did, I studied the vaccine. I was scared. I was nervous because I got COVID. And I, you know, sat with me, I had some effects of it for about eight months. So I was really nervous. But when I started doing research, and I started looking at how many other vaccines and things in the medical community is based off of science, that they got wrong, that they didn't realize till three or four years later, that made me say, this amount of time is not enough. So that's the research I did. I didn't just look for the good news. I looked for the things that also went wrong in the past. Okay, so I don't know how many of you did research like that. But that's the type of stuff that I did. And somebody wants me to take a few minutes and put some stuff up that talks about that. I have no clue why. I yeah, it's just crazy. It's like that there's one in particular, they said about four years later, they realized that there was something wrong with it. Then we talked about these lawsuits that Pfizer had, but nobody's talking about that lawsuit they had, where's the RICO act? I could put that up. Also, you know, the crime news was only meant for mafia people. They don't talk about the when Kaiser hospital sued Pfizer, because Pfizer misrepresented a drug that was meant for epilepsy, they went through FDA for that, but they, you know, marketed that it could do something else, it could heal other stuff. And it wasn't true. And he got a lawsuit for that.

Unknown Speaker: 58:03

Jerry, okay, put it up. I want to see his direct direct one Pfizer's a fucking organized crime organization, to I mean, let's, let's also remember as this pandemic was going on, and there's people I see on this stage that were part of this, when we just brought up natural immunity. We brought up natural immunity, we were told that we, we were cussed out told we're spreading misinformation. And I can send you an article where there's two people from the FDA, and a professor of pediatrics, from the from the from, I believe, the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, they wrote an article for The Wall Street Journal, saying that if you had COVID, you don't need three shots that haven't COVID is equal to two shots of the vaccine, you could only get a booster. So I got a lot of anger in me still, from the things I was said, the things I was called. And then just the sheer hypocrisy and lies that came from people that saying, I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist, you have to listen to what I say. And natural immunity is not enough. We bring a preprint they say that's a preprint. It doesn't count. I can put up study after study now peer reviewed studies that show that natural immunity is not only equal to the vaccine, but better. And the people on this stage and all over the world told us we again, attacked us like we were talking about nanobots, or Bill Gates in the secret society, where we were just bringing up natural immunity and a preprint from Israel that showed you what we have always been saying all along, and they're gonna pretend like they didn't mean it, or they're gonna, they're gonna change their little words up, but we remember you, we remember you clearly and the way you behaved, and now just come swinging around and saying this in that role, you've lost your credibility. You've lost your credibility, and you affected your entire profession. We never trust you to begin with. And after the way you acted during this pandemic, we remember you. We don't care what you got to say, Man, I don't care what none of these doctors and lawyers, I don't care what none of them got to say. They've shown their colors.

Unknown Speaker: 59:58

What about your personal doctor?

Jerry Malcolm: 1:00:00

You know what our respect even more director, our respect if the science that they have to back it up, they also look at the other science that counters it and let's talk about that. Let's debate that. Why is it just so much in one direction? When we do little research on our own? It's just all over the place. Am I saying this bad? No, I'm not. Am I saying it's bad? All I'm saying is, it's too soon for me to trust it. And director I feel your pain, brother. Good. I've been there. I've been I don't

Jonathan Bing: 1:00:29

feel this pain. I don't feel his pain director. I think you follow you know what, you follow the Passion, passion, that's what you have. But you're wrong. Okay. And you're wrong. You're wrong. You think that that you were false, you were misled. You weren't misled? Okay? That a lot of lies received. Okay. And we got out of this pandemic, low do largely in part to the vaccine, due largely in part to the vaccine. And now you guys are pretending like because you guys didn't take it that you guys were right. Because you didn't take that more people took more people took this vaccine, this country, okay, and around the world. That didn't take it. Alright, so when you guys sit in here, but tend to like y'all was right, okay. People made sacrifices. They weren't cowards. Okay. They didn't sit back and try to wait and watch. Okay, they wrote up the goddamn sleeves, and did their part for further nation. So now you guys are coming in saying how you guys are right. Because you guys didn't take it. Chocolate. That's bullshit.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:01:26

You just said, Hey, wait, Director. Wait, let me ask. Let me ask Director a quick question a director. Let me ask you a question. You're not a doctor. You're not a scientist. But let me ask you a question. Is there any way to know what would have happened to a person that took the vaccine? If they wouldn't have took it? Is there any way to make that an absolute director,

Unknown Speaker: 1:01:47

if they were sick, if they got COVID? already? And now we know it. We knew it when the preprint came out. And the excuse was, Oh, it's a preprint. We can't talk about it, even though it's an emergency. And we're willing to do all these other things in emergency, acknowledging a preprint. And taking it seriously don't know that we can't do that. Okay, fine. But now, there's other studies out showing us what we said from them. If you have gotten COVID. That's the equivalent of taking the vaccine. Are we in are you What are y'all selling? Are you selling a vaccine? You know, you talk about people being protected, people being protected and going forward, which is the conversation that we're having? Because that's what I'm saying, Jonathan? I'm not saying no, no, don't take it. I'm saying I got sick. I have COVID. I had COVID. So I've had I've now have the protection that comes with that. I wasn't we weren't attacked.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:02:39

Actually, I actually directed their sales. Probably one second Alfredo i Director, they're actually saying that people had had it may even have a stronger effect, you know, the actual vaccine?

Unknown Speaker: 1:02:56

May I mean, the preprint. from Israel. That's what they said.

Unknown Speaker: 1:03:00

That's right. That's exactly right. And you know, when I put that up there, Jonathan Bing said, that's probably from one of those rag newspapers. I said, no, it's actually the new Washington Post. And then I put it up there. And Jonathan. He didn't read it. But it's an opinion piece. No. It wasn't an opinion piece. It was an opinion based the study that was conducted with over 700,000 people that has been enhanced to be over 1,000,005 that and that, you know, the way that the natural had COVID had natural immunity. That was get this John 27 times stronger than the back there, right?

Jonathan Bing: 1:03:43

That's not true. That's not true. 27 times higher. Okay. Should I post it again? Up? No, no, no, no, you can send it to us. But I want you to finish agonist respond.

Unknown Speaker: 1:03:56

It was it was the Washington Post, which is a very left leaning pro Washington, DC. Newspaper. And thankfully, we were able to get a glimpse of some of the the truth that natural immunity is something that's real, and I'm not sure if we're covering also, they are no longer allowing the vaccine to be called a vaccine, because it does not meet the definitions of a vaccine. So we should perhaps, change what we're calling this because it is not a vaccine.

Jonathan Bing: 1:04:25

Alright, so right now, let me just say this, first and foremost, Ryan, you know, I love you, man. But if you see something that says perspective on an article, that's an opinion piece, it's given a perspective. It did, Brian did. Brian 100% said perspective, okay. And I remember that night clearly because I thought it was humorous that you try to put in a pen piece up there, okay. And that's exactly what it said. And they have to clearly market is that and if you send me the same article, I'll show it to you again, Brian. But once again, guys, listen to me. Does natural immune The having an effect? Absolutely it does. Okay, we agree. Okay, once again, we did not know, to what effect and we didn't know how long or whatever. But what we did know, is because we had data on the people that were taking the vaccine, and how they were surviving and how they were feeling, even after they got COVID, we had data, we had hard data, showing that it was effective, and it is effective. You guys want to discount that? And that's what like get that crawls me that you guys are want to discount the fact that there's actual data showing that the vaccine is working. Wow, looking at the data, okay, that shows that natural immunity works. And but that's not convenient for you. You guys want us to acknowledge natural immunity works and we do. Now the only problem with that is, you know, moms go out there and and tell a woman go out, go out and get natural immunity. How do you get natural immunity? You go, you catch call you go you catch COVID? And what does that come with? That comes to mind, myocarditis that comes with all kinds of comes to death that comes with all kinds of ailments. Okay, people going out to get natural immunity when they take the vaccine.

Unknown Speaker: 1:06:09

I've never heard anyone, advocate going out to get COVID as a way of getting natural immunity. But what I'm saying is, since I was an early adopter, I got COVID. In March of 2020, I realized that I had some level of immunity and Jonathan immediately following getting the COVID, I was told by doctors in the supporting article at the time, you can't get this again. And several months later, when I started having the symptoms, I Googled it, and it said it's rare. And it listed a little bit five cases, the United States of America, as the nurse walked through the room and said, Mr. Ben sock, you have COVID Again, at the time, it was so rare. And thankfully the second time it was a mild case. But there is there was something to natural immunity. I never suggested, hey, I got COVID And I didn't need to get the vaccine. So you should go out and get COVID And I've never heard anyone on this stage or any other stage.

Jonathan Bing: 1:07:06

Brian O'Brien don't do that man. Cuz I like I love you. I'm trying to like Nike, Brian. Yeah. Cool. But if I have to expose you, because I think Dr. Catherine was here, and a whole bunch of us was here, when you were advocating natural immunity. Okay, let's, you kept saying natural immunity. And everyone said to Brian, in order to get natural immunity, you can't advocate natural immunity.

Unknown Speaker: 1:07:30

If you had COVID chances if you already had it. I'm not suggesting to go out and get it if you didn't

Jonathan Bing: 1:07:37

know. You sort of the way you had said it.

Unknown Speaker: 1:07:40

natural immunity. I

Unknown Speaker: 1:07:42

stand by I stand by that. John, I stand by that you got vaccinated out the s and you got COVID You got a pretty bad.

Jonathan Bing: 1:07:50

You know, I didn't write you see almost a month, bro. I actually write that but I didn't get it pretty bad. Brian, what happened to me was I Wait, wait, hold on. It's actually longer. Okay. But let me just say this, Brian, I was vaccinated and my co my actual case of COVID. Clear. Okay, and I was okay. I'm out of the woods. I is very mild. But those mild symptoms lingered on. Okay. And that was the hard part that the mild symptoms lingered on. So when you say that I got a bad night didn't get it back. But it gave you want to say because I've been in I've been dealing with the mouse symptoms, you know? Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker: 1:08:29

And I don't want anyone to have it you or anybody not. And you had Omicron I think, Well, we think he had Omicron. And that was the lesser of the evils. And so hopefully you got a little bit of additional immunity in addition to your boosters, but no, I've never advocated somebody getting COVID as a way to get immune COVID That's ridiculous.

Unknown Speaker: 1:08:49

Hey, Brian, Director X was right, though. I mean, you know, a lot of people who were vaccine vaccine hesitant we were being called names. We were the bad guys. We were the unclean ones. And it was really interesting, because you know what? Jonathan had data, right, that said, vaccines work. We had data that said natural immunity works. We're not disputing that. And we're not telling people not to take the backs. That's not what we ever said. That's not what we ever will say, however, for our own personal decision that we didn't have, right that we didn't take, it's because we've already had the natural immunity and we saw studies a little differently. So with this new variant coming up, could we get it again? Yes, if it's highly transmissible, has our immune system seen the COVID strain? Yes, they'd have seen an Alpha Delta Omicron. You know what, a lot of people said it even Fauci said this, this is what really got me. They said, eventually, everyone's gonna be exposed to Omicron. He said it from the podium and he said it in a press conference. And I thought, well, if everybody's gonna get it, you know what, it's still no need for me to go get vaccinated. So for all the critics in the chat, who say, Oh, my gosh, we're nobody's forcing you to take it. You're exactly right. And nobody's saying that you shouldn't take it. However. This is a bad guy in this situation. Because we're living the American way.

Unknown Speaker: 1:10:06

It's spot on. Spot on.

Unknown Speaker: 1:10:12

Yeah, it's a midterm barrier.

Jonathan Bing: 1:10:15

Lady, lady go,

Jerry Malcolm: 1:10:18

let's go. No, no. Okay, one moment, everybody one moment. I didn't hear a lady going. Was there lady going? I just heard a guy going go ahead.

Unknown Speaker: 1:10:33

That sounds so discouraged.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:10:35

I'm depressed right now.

Unknown Speaker: 1:10:37

Oh, I'm sorry. No, no,

Jerry Malcolm: 1:10:39

I'm depressed cuz I gotta listen to this bullshit. It's just y'all talking about it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like my man. See, rock. Wait one second, my man see rock, my man Director X. You know, I'm moving to sit up here. And I'm just reminiscing. It's like from day one. And if we ever say anything to doctors, they take it so personal like we can't. I'm a doctor. You cannot dare challenge what a doctor says I'm a doctor. Oh, are you writing prescriptions from the stage right now? If you're not writing prescriptions from the stage, I don't want to hear that. Okay. It's just crazy how, anyway, I'm just gonna play for the devil for asking. I'm just gonna stay Stephanie. I'm just gonna stay depressed right now. Go ahead, Stephanie.

Unknown Speaker: 1:11:20

Okay, okay. Um, but storm, I understand exactly what you're saying. Because I remember when the Dota came out, remember, I think they came out with those vaccines in like November, December of 2020. And when delta came out the following March, they were saying, Oh, if you got the vaccine, they said, it should protect you from the new variant that's coming out. But then after the very end came out, then they came back and said, No, you're not protected from that you need to get a booster. So again, like you're saying, they keep giving you mixed signals, misinformation, and then I just recently, and actually, Jerry, I sent this to you to where I'm the CEO of Pfizer, Albert, how do you say it? Borgia, I think that's how you say his name. But he even said out of his own mouth, that people are going to need a fourth vaccine for COVID, to help fend off another wave of the pandemic. And then he goes on to say that the protection after three doses is and I quote, not that good against the virus or infections. And he also says that I quote, doesn't last very long. So if you're telling people that the vaccine doesn't last very long, and the three doses you've already gotten is not good against infections. I mean, what do you expect for people to say, That's why people are saying, No, I want to get that, or, yeah, I may go get it. They're confused, because they keep giving mixed signals. So what is the public supposed to believe? And I land there? Thank you. Hey, I've

Unknown Speaker: 1:13:03

had a question. I've had

Jerry Malcolm: 1:13:06

wait one second, bro. The guy who said I've had he kind of beat you to the mic, so that I have guy.

Unknown Speaker: 1:13:12

I appreciate it. It's Kurt. I, I've had 28 people die from COVID Over the last two years. And uncles have had two uncles and two cousins. Did you say 28? Brother, that's 28. Jerry. So a lot of them are in Detroit. A lot of them have been in Alabama, a few in California. So when I when people say about the I hate people calling this a vaccine, I just stopped calling it that call to treatment, called the jab, don't call the vaccine, because seven of them were vaccinated and they died. So I hate that they continue to say these things. I'm not vaccinated. My mom is vaccinate, I take care of her. She's 85. And they keep I know, I love a storm of sand because it's so many mixed signals have been sent. People have gotten vaccinated and they still have passed away. I know people say oh, do they have an underlying condition? Well, I don't care about that, because that was the trigger. COVID was the trigger they told them to get the vaccine, and they still passed away. So I hate people saying that vaccine were just called a treatment cuz it's not a vaccine, polio vaccine. You don't get it no more, but you could still get COVID with this shit. So I totally agree with Storm is saying I totally agree with Director X is saying I haven't got COVID at all during this whole time. I probably been exposed a couple of times I try to stay away from people to keep myself away were masters do what I need to do personally. But it ain't for everybody. Everybody that gets this this this shot thing in any angle stop you from dying or anything else from getting it. So why are we continuing to push people if they don't want to get it to tell them to get this thing? It's not it doesn't is it depends on like you said the doctor, the doctor said earlier you're everybody's immune system is different. So all I'm saying is stop calling this a vaccine. Please

Jonathan Bing: 1:15:00

All right, well, I wanna jump in here. And first of all my condolences for your loss family members. But you said something that's very dangerous. At the end, you said, your recommend to get decided it's not going to stop you from getting in. It's not going to stop you from dying. Okay, that's incorrect. All right. So a greatly improves your

Unknown Speaker: 1:15:17

chances. Jonathan, I got it, I got it. And they die. Is it?

Jonathan Bing: 1:15:21

Okay? And once again, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to hear that. But when you're telling people blinking Lee, and this thing has saved lives, okay. It saved a lot of lives. So when you get over here, and you say, you make a blanket statement, and you saying that it's it doesn't work at all? Is that what you said, sir? That because I

Unknown Speaker: 1:15:39

didn't say that? I said, No, but

Jonathan Bing: 1:15:42

you just said you didn't say that. But once again, when you say it's not going to stop you from dying, it's

Unknown Speaker: 1:15:46

not going to say that I promise to stop you from dying. Period.

Jonathan Bing: 1:15:50

Alright, it's probably now probably tonight and promising. Okay. That's, that's what I want, you know, because you made a statement, and I want to make sure that the direct the correct information goes out. Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 1:16:00

Yes, that's fair. So it's

Unknown Speaker: 1:16:03

a correction. Vaccine means when you get a vaccine in your body, the antibodies is not that it protects you from getting sick from everything. I have a two year old daughter, she has to get update vaccine doctor to like four years old for polio, and other diseases. So when you say vaccine, we have this public consciousness by vaccine of my time in general going to get is Meanwhile, as a kid, you go through a regimen upon to four or five years old, or even if you're older, GM, an immigrant before I can do analysis allows us to get some shots also. So to say vaccine, we have this in a public lexicon that vaccines are protected automatically by one shot know that and certainly if you ask the doctors, and if you go through your history when you if you went to public school, you see your vaccination cause you see the history of the vaccines you got and the boosters so we just need to understand that very well. Are you

Unknown Speaker: 1:16:55

this direct this direct direct I'd like to bring how many people have really heard clubhouse Doctor really advocate for vitamin D? And how that can help in this battle?

Jerry Malcolm: 1:17:04

Never. I? Never,

Jonathan Bing: 1:17:08

every every night every night. The Copeland

Jerry Malcolm: 1:17:14

No, no. Let me say what happens. Let me say what happens? No, no, one second. No, no, listen, he did. That's what he's asking us. But let me say some, every person Jonathan just mentioned, they all say it once I bring it up. They don't. They don't willingly say it. And that's

Unknown Speaker: 1:17:29

what I heard them say their room in the other room. That's not No, no, we're not talking about that. Question isn't we heard them say it.

Unknown Speaker: 1:17:38

Cuz because I mean, I literally had Copeland, vitamin D MC doesn't really help. So

Jonathan Bing: 1:17:44

no, no, he never said that. He never said that. That's not true. It doesn't help me already sick. If you're already sick, and you're sitting there and they can't give you a dose of vitamin D.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:17:54

He's not a but guess what Director X listeners? This is real quick director. Excellent. Let me say something. And this is a fact. Dr. copelan is not qualified to say what will happen with vitamin D, once you're already sick. He has no data to say that it will not do anything. There's doctors out there to Dutch studies, other naturopathic doctors that got patients this had it and it does help

Unknown Speaker: 1:18:20

not right away. Director,

Unknown Speaker: 1:18:26

you, I just Googled now vitamin D COVID. Correlation. And what just on the just on the search page, strong correlation between vitamin D between prevalence of severe vitamin D and, and the vitamin D deficiency and population mortality rate from COVID-19. In Europe, you go on scrolling down, studies suggest high vitamin D levels may protect against dot dot dots. And then if I click on this one, this is from UChicago medicine, right? study suggests high vitamin D levels may protect against COVID-19 Especially for black people. This was published March 19 2021. This doesn't take I don't need to go to a library and dig into Google Scholar. I went

Jerry Malcolm: 1:19:08

to a doctor Director He said directly I went to a doctor in California and they said the exact same thing and I just don't happen to be low in it. How do I know I got blood work and it showed that I was low. It changed everything when I got the vitamin D me

Unknown Speaker: 1:19:22

but what I'm saying is in in these rooms and in these places we didn't you get the vaccine where a mass keep away from people. I've heard them say it with this knowledge out there. I'm not asking for us to deny the vaccine or do any of that shit. I'm saying let's let's let's be grownups about an emergency and acknowledge what the fuck is going on. It's like we're in a burning building and we'll only say there's only one exit Yeah, but there's an exit over there and exit over there. No, this is only exit we're gonna take about fuck off. Let's hear

Jerry Malcolm: 1:19:53

your Hytera Great.

Unknown Speaker: 1:19:54

Glad to hear director asks the question. Are you saying that if you develop COVID and you take Vitamin D, it will cure you or relieve your symptoms. Are you talking about making sure that your immune system is as healthy as possible? Well in advance which one are you talking about?

Unknown Speaker: 1:20:10

I'm talking about,

Jerry Malcolm: 1:20:11

I'm talking about a way to frame

Jonathan Bing: 1:20:15

that made a lot of sense. Yes.

Unknown Speaker: 1:20:16

I'm talking about a clear messaging, especially from the medical professional thing. This is what's going on in this emergency.

Jonathan Bing: 1:20:24

Your question answered a question Doctor, Direct X glad?

Unknown Speaker: 1:20:31

No, I'm not. I was clear on what I said, I didn't say if you haven't, go take this, if there's any, if there's any data for that, will can look into it. This is what I am saying. For the medical professionals here. And in general, for an emergency situation. I want honest information about the options, hey, if you haven't got COVID already, then you do not have that protection, you better start taking some vitamin D. And we're gonna suggest you take the vaccine because this is what happens if you've gotten COVID already. Well, this is the realm that you're in. If you're doing this and then take your if you've gotten the vaccine, we suggest you take some vitamin D, and you give us the whole thing, but because the vaccine was the big push, and that's the only answer that people wanted, that they ignored other information. Like they're not talking to fucking adults that can see your fucking ignoring shit, making shit up or twisting information. And then think because you're on some kind of moral high horse that you can just tell us to fucking shut up because you're a doctor. The world doesn't work that way. We can see your bullshitting we can feed through your shit. And now you're in a situation with the science backs us up. So we really know your life and that we really want to tell you fuck off.

Unknown Speaker: 1:21:39

Let me just say one more thing. I have heard Dr. Catherine particularly who practices integrative medicine, basically say that she measures levels of all the people she deals with and tells them to take vitamins and tells them to take certain supplements, etc. I have heard her speak on this quite frequently. I've heard Dr. Priya talk about this. Dr. Copeland is not a practicing doctor, as you know, I mean, he's a geneticist, etc. But what I've heard him say Is he personally takes a lot of stuff. So I guess I'm a little confused why you're saying they're not the people. And I'm a

Unknown Speaker: 1:22:13

little confused. Well, no, no, no, no, no, let's let's not act like this is not that

Jerry Malcolm: 1:22:19

direct. Let me say direct. Let me say something direct. Let me jump in for a second real quick, real quick. I'm gonna say something. I'm a little confused. I'm gonna tell you why I'm confused. Because I heard what Tara just said. And I think I've been in more of these rooms. Because I do then Tara because I'm here every single day. And she never ever, ever invites that never invites that. She only says that when somebody like me start talking about natural immunity. The first thing that comes out of her mouth is everything everybody in here say is vaccine vaccine vaccine, then she will get upset and get angry and want to leave. If you saying something, this is not in sync with her belief about the vaccine. That's all she talks about is vaccine. The only time she mentioned that is when we bring it up. And I'm talking about Dr. Cathy but she never invites that ever, ever. She never invites that she only comments on it.

Unknown Speaker: 1:23:11

rant about it. What her practice. Alright, I

Jerry Malcolm: 1:23:15

was here remember, I do the room. I was here but I'm I'm always the one who brings it up. Dr. Kaplan never brings that stuff up. No doctor comes in this room brings it up unless they're a naturopathic doctor, period.

Jonathan Bing: 1:23:26

Okay, so the Jerry like I said, Let me jump in. Let me jump in guys, because direct direct direct, I love your passion, man, because I have the same passion, probably an opposite direction, but I have the same passion. And you know, and Jerry, let me just say this about our doctors, these doctors. You know, when you're talking, you're in a crisis right now. You're telling people like, hey, you know, this is what is going to help you right now. This is what's gonna help the most of our population. It's assume that you're going to eat right, and you're going to have all you're going to have your you're going to take your daily intake of vital vitamins. By Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian Ryan, let one second hold on. Okay, because right now we're in a crisis mode, and we're fighting a crisis. So we have to, you know, tell you, Hey, this is what's going on. And undirected. Like you said, the world don't work that way. They tell you inability, and they tell you one extra day, they tell you about the they tell you about the quality of the vaccine, but they don't tell you about the vitamin D, the vitamin D is gonna take some time to kick in, okay? And that's not you know, I don't take vitamin D the day tomorrow. And next thing you know, my immune system, just magically snap back to life and I'm healthy. Okay? That's a regimen. Alright, so that's what it is. And so you're saying, Oh, they're telling you this way? No. It's like if you go to if you go to a police officer, a pedestrian on the street and say, how do you get to Eighth Street? They say jump and jump on the subway on a train and go down and get off a street. You like Okay, great. But guess what? That was the quickest, easiest way they can tell you. All right, but guess what? There's a city Rec. We're filled with bicycles. Okay, which is much more healthier. And you're pedaling, get exercise and go and use that to get the HP. They weren't trying to be malicious by not telling you to do that. They gave you the easiest and most convenient way and quickest way to get you to where you need to be. The doctors are giving you the easiest and most quickest way to protect you. And I yell, but the vaccine does not prevent getting infected.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:25:22

Now I want to talk to my my mic was muted. I was talking the whole time when you said let you let you Yechiel I was talking let me let me let me get in a queue for one second. I hear what you're saying, Jonathan, and I totally disagree with you. And I'm not saying they were trying to do it maliciously. Or oh, a bad intention. But I totally disagree with you. And I 100% agree with Dr. X. And it makes

Jonathan Bing: 1:25:42

us the right director, director, not Dr. Director X.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:25:46

I said direct I'd say Doctor, I said director. He said, Oh, whatever the hell did she well, you sound like a doctor for right now with the way you talk about this damn stuff. Okay, so if I made a mistake, so be it we, we ain't gonna get cancelled because of that. So whatever, Director doctor, whatever. So here's the bottom line. No, Director, obviously, you've done extensive research, extensive research in vitamin D and stuff like I did. So the same amount of energy that all these people are putting into into the VAX is probably what director and I have put into the, into the natural way, right. But let me ask you this. Will it hurt? If we see a couple ads? And a couple commercials? A couple banners? Will it hurt? To talk about? Okay, so let's say if it's true, it's not instant. But damn, well, 10 days later, you'll be stronger? How about that director? Will it hurt if they just start spraying a few little ads about vitamin D and NAC and but will it hurt Director X

Jonathan Bing: 1:26:42

whomever? Who's gonna pay for this goddamn man.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:26:45

So people's making 50 billion a day, the people making 50 billion a day off the damn vaccines, that's who's gonna pay for it.

Unknown Speaker: 1:26:51

Even in the messaging, even even in the messaging right here on this app. There. There are many, many herbs that in vitro are protective. In vitro, we know that they fight this virus, you could say hey, man, look. In vitro, that means in a test tube to work is really good. Now, that doesn't mean that it's going to do anything, but at the same time take it might help you and it's good for you in general, we can have these adult conversations saying this is what the evidence shows us. I'm looking at a study right here about black seed oil, that the randomized control trial that showed it was effective. Here's some things that we can do. This is what we have evidence for a real layout again, I'm a director. Okay, when I

Jonathan Bing: 1:27:32

go to work, they started climbing a rock and research doctor to me, Oh Jay, bro,

Unknown Speaker: 1:27:36

I'm a director. And I do my this part of what it is doing your research. So when I go to set a literally a stopwatch clicks and if I go past 12 hours, it's 10s of 1000s of dollars per hour and shit fucking happens because that's the way fucking set goes that we lose a location and thing blows up for the camera gets busted or this guy gets sick and so we have to think on our feet. We need all the options right away and that's why I'm looking at these doctors and scientists in the way they behave in a so called emergency and cannot fathom that they would not put all the options on the table and have real conversations about with us about what is going on. I would fire these small fuckers on the spot. If this is the type of behavior I would see from my crew. It is unbelievable that we're in an emergency situation and these fucking guys dodge around vitamin C dodge around natural herbs dodge around natural immunity when there's evidence for it and not again, it's an emergency you can say to someone Hey man, um, there's a study about these mushrooms but it's only done in a test tube so I cannot guarantee that it's going to be protected but you know there's a bunch of other benefits if you read Rishi so it's it's a pretty safe bet and maybe it will work but blah blah blah blah blah We don't even get that if you bring it up. I was literally called a murderer Hold on. And you bring up Dr. Priya something bringing up Dr. Priya Dr. Priya is one of the ones when I brought up natural immunity when you say I'm a spread of disinformation and they kick me off the stage so I don't give a fuck about these fucking clubhouse doctors or whatever water flag you want to wait for them. They're part of the fucking wrong

Unknown Speaker: 1:29:03

and tell you about

Jonathan Bing: 1:29:10

my guys one mic one mic guys. When Mike first and foremost, we're not talking about clubhouse doctors here we're talking about see we're not here to debate clubhouse. We're debating the world. We're debating what's happening. So you guys, you guys, that's personal vendettas right. Did you guys know what one thing Hold on? We're bigger. No, no, this the news that we put up there isn't clubhouse minutes. The news that we put out there isn't clubhouse news. Alright, so I just want to put that out there. So you know, if you guys got beef with particular doctors on the club, this is not the place for it. We're here to discuss the news and debate the news, and we're here to discuss it and a worldwide manner. So let's just do that Jerry. So

Unknown Speaker: 1:29:50

I'm sorry to cut the other gentleman off. But I want to say director Reki. I'm a director too. I've directed two features and I got a third one. I'm working on good finger but you can well I'm sure We'll have a lot in common there. But I wasn't say, we started the conversation on this director about on this app and I was just in a room when you guys were talking about vitamin D, I was just in a room no shit right before this one. It's called Medical Mondays. And I'm just saying a doctor. And there's plenty of them. We were talking exactly about this really, we added in cannabis, but vitamin D, they were talking specifically about this exact thing, helping prevent viruses. And the thing is, so there are it seems to me, like I'm in rooms all the time where there's doctors talking about natural medicine. So I'm not sure I'm sure Gary knows what happens in his rooms. Except I said I was just in a room. The other one today, doctors talking about vitamin fucking D, there's like, no, they never even said it. But right. Jonathan was not about the doctors on this app. But there are there are several good rooms that are going on. I was in one earlier, but it would be right up your alley doc director Rex and yeah, I know what it is. Yeah, working on the set. I gotta say, I'm following you because you're just a rough and tumble. But yeah, I can tell, you know, basically on a set, if you're the director, right, I'm letting you run it. When I'm the director, I run it so you're right. I wouldn't put up with that shit either. Except, I'm trying to figure out how we're going to work together.

Unknown Speaker: 1:31:09

You got to be I had to go to the hospital because I had to because during the lockdowns, everybody was talking to vitamin D shit. So I was overdosing on that shit. And I got hospitalized because I was fucking busy. And when they did the blood panel, I was at a toxic level of vitamin D. And that's it. That's it almost did me in worse than the COVID. So you can't just be taking vitamin D you

Jerry Malcolm: 1:31:39

need. But you just can't take that. But why would you? Why would you imply that? Why would you imply that they were talking about taking it wrong? Just because you just because you didn't do it the correct way that you know you. I know. That's what I'm saying. You can take the vaccine wrong. Well,

Unknown Speaker: 1:31:58

you need to take that.

Unknown Speaker: 1:32:02

But that's that's why we need our medical professionals to say this is everything we have on the table. If you're going to be vitamin D, the ABC in the Be careful you don't this and re re re if you've already been infected. This what we know so far, if you've taken the vaccine, this is the information we need. Our medical professionals say this is all the info we have. If you want to go take herbs, well, we don't have all the information about this. But this is what we got to test you. So if you're going to go down that road, just understand that there's risk involved and might not work out the way you think and blah, blah, blah. That's what we need from our medical professionals not

Jonathan Bing: 1:32:33

compared to some other people, man, we get we had other people that needs to debate the news on this stage, man, let's let's do it. Jerry,

Unknown Speaker: 1:32:40

can I say something, please? Because one thing that he's saying he wants to go to doctors, you need to go to herbalists and different ways and avenues to get that information. And if you talking about vitamin D go outside. They told you to stay inside and do all this other stuff. That's why a lot of people especially in the black community, their levels are low, because you're not outside.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:33:03

But Melissa, let's pivot away from that though, because we get it we've been talking about that too much.

Unknown Speaker: 1:33:09

But can I just land with by saying this it sounds like a lot of your egos are in place because you don't want to admit that you were wrong when you thought he was so absolute. And I learned period by some two as well.

Unknown Speaker: 1:33:25

I I'd never tested I never test the COVID shot. I never took none of the SATs mountain no one in my home never took the SAT. And we've been tested over five times and don't have COVID That's because we do things the natural way. It's all about keeping your immune system up all those extra shots and pills and all that extra stuff. That stuff is not good for your body but I'm not a doctor to say that but all I do is I go by the natural way. And if someone want to take the COVID shot that's their business but I'm people in my home we're not doing it. And I'll say something

Unknown Speaker: 1:33:59

I'm not vaccinated but I will just say something you push a lot older doctors but don't forget the was very busy to say what life I also not happy that we don't have enough information. But just think from their side because they don't have time. What I see here in Europe because I travel a lot in Europe, that what when people is vaccinated, they think we are protected because they don't have enough information. So they got sick. They say it's it's okay, no problem. I can go outside because I'm vaccinated, so they spread the virus a lot. Also many vaccinate people say I don't wear a mask because I'm vaccinated. And you know, many times I hear that you say people who is not vaccinated, it's unresponsible but actually the people who is not vaccinated is more responsible. We were mask, we we we have distance, and we really care. And even I have for 37 degree, I really check my, my body and I do a test. So I don't think somebody who don't want to vaccinate it will change opinion or someone who is for vaccine will change. But don't push the doctors a lot, because they really did a very great job last two years. Thank you. Let me just say

Unknown Speaker: 1:35:32

that somebody that is not vaccinated is more responsible, versus someone that is just isn't true. You can't make that blanket statement.

Jonathan Bing: 1:35:41

So I was gonna say to you that typically that people here I think we're we every day have a problem is, you know, first and foremost that when that statement, I'm address your statement. Most of a lot of the people that's not vaccinated, also, we also refuse to wear a mask. So there's no compromise there. And, you know, they don't want to social distance, because it's their freedom and their rights to do whatever to get sick. That's what they say. Okay, but not thinking that about the people that there that risk exposing. So I want to put that out there. So, but, and I can understand the, the anger on both sides or the mistrust on both sides, you know, the anti vaxxers. You know, there were a time when people said, Hey, you can't count on natural immunity. And that was and that was set. And once again, you have to get a pool of people that actually a large pool of people that actually had it, and be able to test and see, you know, what their their levels are, you know, and test prior to and after infection. And so you get we just didn't have a controlled environment to do that. So agree with your statement, Jonathan, about people that aren't vaccinated? What, what? What, no, no, that's fine. But you can go up there when I'm done. All right. So. So I think what we have here, guys, is a situation where and I'll be frank with you. If anti as a person as probax, I'm actually pro choice. Okay, I become very pro Vax, when I'm in a room full of anti vaxxers, believe it or not, so if you are anti, if you are anti vaccine, you come in and say I choose not to get vaccinated, because that's my choice. You know, I'm, like, good for you. But when you come in and say, I choose not to get vaccinated, because this distance and this, and you know, and I think that people are being dangerous and people being injured out there. Now, I go from being pro choice to be anti Vax real quick. Alright. And so I think that's where we have our problem that, you know, I don't think there's there really isn't a reason for every ad someone out there saying, hey, go get vaccinated, you know, are you a piece of crap? You know, I said, Yeah, you know, I can understand that, but I don't think there's more people out there that stand don't go get vaccinated. That's what you're hearing more of anything. And you hear people that that have to defend that. And that's why I haven't

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:11

heard a single person say don't get back. What?

Jonathan Bing: 1:38:15

You have not heard a single person. Right now. You're not being honest. One second. Hold on, hold up. Hold up. Wait, wait, guys. Anyone else statement? Oh, no. All right. Wait, before you go, um, let you go. Anyone on this stage that believes but I was ready. I know a lot of y'all you guys are but I always acted the bias answer first. Anyone who stays stays believes that what Brian said that he hasn't heard anyone on absent don't get back say aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. So anyone on this stage have heard people said, Don't go get Vax. Say I

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:51

even get called an alien.

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:55

John, we, the masses don't make it correct. I can speak specifically for myself. I've never

Jonathan Bing: 1:39:03

run you in the same rooms I'm in.

Unknown Speaker: 1:39:05

But listen, I hear people advocating for their own personal liberty and freedom. And I hear people that give excuses why they don't want the back. Some are, you know, make sense. Some don't make sense. But it's your personal choice. I haven't heard somebody I really haven't heard somebody say, don't get the vaccine. I've heard people say one size doesn't fit all. They shouldn't prescribe it for everybody. They should make sure that they understand whatever that patient's underlying conditions might be. Whether it be storm, or Director X. I haven't heard somebody say you shouldn't get the backs

Unknown Speaker: 1:39:51

they call them sub triplets. Now, Jonathan, those rules. They say that were not true bloods like them that we're talking about. So So Brian, that's irresponsible

Unknown Speaker: 1:40:01

for anybody to tell somebody else not to get the vaccine. I think it's a personal choice.

Jonathan Bing: 1:40:08

But Brian, you do it here every night. And that's, that's the tough part. Now I'm listening. The tough part to listen to you right now is you hear it every night and you're seeing that you haven't heard it. So I agree

Unknown Speaker: 1:40:19

with Brian, I gotta agree with Brian because I think there's risks on both sides. There's risk to take a vaccine, and there's risks if you don't take a vaccine. And we are looking more for informed consent. I've never heard somebody come in and say, don't get the vaccine and pressing it on anybody else. They say, I don't want to get it for myself but in reverse. We've had you know, people say get the vaccine or you're being irresponsible you're being dangerous, but I've never heard somebody say don't get the shot I've said I've heard people say there's adverse reaction so I'm gonna

Jonathan Bing: 1:40:56

wait wait wait, hold on, hold on. So you have never heard someone say you never said you can never say

Unknown Speaker: 1:41:08

there was a woman on the stage just now who said she was one of them she's there.

Jonathan Bing: 1:41:19

Hold on one second. How many people how many people in this stage that are anti Vax are non boxes that said that that agrees that people should not get this vaccine

Unknown Speaker: 1:41:29

Hi All right

Jonathan Bing: 1:41:40

so once again once again you guys are you guys framing this and

Unknown Speaker: 1:41:46

like that's not really anything to talk about right now what we most of us say is it's your choice if you want to get the bag get the bag if you don't I think you

Unknown Speaker: 1:42:00

guys haven't heard it because the bullies

Jerry Malcolm: 1:42:10

a Wait wait wait you guys is to me. Wait, wait wait wait mutual mutual. Mike's

Unknown Speaker: 1:42:14

there has been a one way street of bullying and has been people think that everybody should get the vaccine or war. We just dehumanize those who don't want to get a vaccine. There's been a one

Jerry Malcolm: 1:42:26

way. And Barbara Wait, wait, Barbara Barbara. I've never

Unknown Speaker: 1:42:29

believed now. I've never heard anybody come in here be like, Don't you dare get that vaccine. If you're you're you're being dangerous. Take him out. I've never it's been a Barbara bullying high

Jerry Malcolm: 1:42:42

bar, we can say we can we can say some stuff on this app just because it sounds cool to say it. But if we want to operate off of truth, what Barbara just said is correct. If I'm not mistaken, if I'm not if I'm not mistaken. There's a there's a list that if I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken. There's a list called the Dirty Dozen. If I'm not mistaken. Maybe I made that up to I don't know, I don't know if any list. I don't know of any list. I don't know if any list that you don't get no no. Listen, I'm not talking about you right now. I'm agreeing with that last part where Barbara said when I came in? I don't there's doctors to put rooms together.

Jonathan Bing: 1:43:21

We're not talking about Dr. Jerry, I want to ask you a question real quick. Because you're saying that you have never heard someone say tell someone a group of people that they shouldn't get the vaccine. Is that what you're saying?

Jerry Malcolm: 1:43:34

I hear doctors saying people No no, no. No, you know,

Jonathan Bing: 1:43:39

don't don't get the vaccine. You have never heard anyone say don't get the vaccine because it's dangerous.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:43:42

Of course I hear people saying that they that they wouldn't want to get the vaccine because it's dead. I haven't heard them directly say to people hey, people don't go get the vaccines dangerous. I haven't heard that. I haven't heard that.

Unknown Speaker: 1:43:55

About the Boolean aspect, the energy behind it. And I feel like those things are overshadowed by the constant. And he's right with the Dirty Dozen. All those doctors and public speakers who got put.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:44:09

It's not it's not it's not one second, one second. It's not even it's not even close. I mean, this doesn't even debate. That's not even close. The doctors dominate what you're ignorant you're stupid. You're this You're that your Grant Cardone Grant Cardone killed 20,000 Or I'm sorry, I'm exaggerating. These are 10,000 people, Grant Cardone kill 10,000 People with his rhetoric. That's the doctors. That's that's a one way street is always the anti vaxxers and non vaxxers defending their position as to why they didn't do it. It's like there's like they're the receiver. They're not the givers and receivers. And this room was another example about it. It the loudest voices in this room is by the by the pro vaxxers. And if he

Unknown Speaker: 1:44:56

was Director X you gave him a lot and insulted everybody Basically saying that people he was sick of doctors, he thought they were horrible. He thought they had not been truthful, etc. That was the loudest let

Jerry Malcolm: 1:45:07

me tell your doctor I did today. Let me mute your mic miss. mute your mic, miss. mute your mic while I'm talking. Reach your mic while I'm talking miss. Okay, this is moderating. I'm moderate right now. Let me tell what Dr. X did right now. For those of you, for those of you in the audience that listen to Dr. X, he actually helped some people today. That's what he did. He helped some people. Because there is no one size fits all with this damn vaccine. There's a listen, would you rather have a stronger system? Or you won't just get a damn vaccine? Exercise? Get Healthy. Get your nutrition. So Dr. X, you actually help some people today, brother for those as

well let me okay. Let me let me say this.

Jonathan Bing: 1:45:56

Hold on. She just saw my integrity, bro. Do not paint my integrity. You're lying. That's not me.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:46:03

Jonathan, let me let me clear this up. Jonathan. Just so I'm clear. So so

Jonathan Bing: 1:46:08

when we when we you know, Jerry because when we do and we and we've done the biggest rooms in clubhouse for a long time, okay, and had 1000s of people in there. And you said that you for anyone to come up here. Anyone to come up here and say they have not heard anyone in clubhouse, say come in and tell people not to get the vaccine. When we have people come up and talk about aliens. When we have people come up here talking about robots in the bloodstream when people meet you Mike's talking about don't take it because of the robots in the bloodstream. Don't take it because everyone, can you find out who that is? I can block them and get them out of

Unknown Speaker: 1:46:44

here. This woman called Cindy was it Cindy? Okay, good.

Jonathan Bing: 1:46:47

Thank you. I'll find her. And I'm gonna ban humbucker from a goddamn room from every goddamn room. So once again. So when that happens, and now you guys say, Oh, we never heard it. It quite a brings to the integrity of the room implant John play, and it brings integrity of the person. That's the people that have seen it and play with even anti backs is a patient. Yeah, I have said it. And you guys are still saying? No, I haven't heard it. And people want to stage and I've said it, and I've heard that one.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:47:17

Alright, let me say this. Let me say this really quick. Let me say this really quick. Let me say this. So I can clear this up. So everybody be clear when I say when I made that statement about Director X helping people. And I stand by that? Because this is what I'm going to say that he does. I know. But I'm saying that because I heard a bunch of little little rambling the back when I said that, let me tell what Director X did if you guys are really paying attention. He was saying that if you get your proper herbs, your proper levels up proper vitamin D, because most black people are low in vitamin D, there are studies that prove that you could Google it. You could ask your doctor if they're going to be if they want to go that direction with you. Most people this black that cut COVID were very low on their vitamin D levels. So he's telling you something that's going to strengthen your immune system. I didn't hear him say, Don't go take the vaccine. I heard it. He doesn't want to

Jonathan Bing: 1:48:11

know, I heard. You're pivoting right now, though. Because what is the point we were

Jerry Malcolm: 1:48:15

told? Well, I don't pivot. I don't pivot. The only reason there is no consequence that I get by by saying what I said, there's no price to pay. So I don't

Jonathan Bing: 1:48:23

I don't I get one second Jerry what I used to saying once, once it is

Jerry Malcolm: 1:48:29

only the non vaxxers. They say I know Baxter said I mean only the vaccines how people hold

Jonathan Bing: 1:48:33

on Jerry. So what I'm saying to you is this right here, Jerry, you came in and said you agree that you do that people on this app? Don't say don't get the vaccine. Okay, you've never heard anyone on this app say don't get the vaccine. Alright, everyone, all the anti vaxxers Even though the anti vaxxers is saying it's your choice whether you get it or not. That's what you said. You came in Whoa, you're

Jerry Malcolm: 1:48:54

gonna go so hard to prove a point like what is Brian's a tomato tomatoes? What a Augustus? What the What the hell is this point proved he's talking about love. Okay, every now and back to right now. Let's say it all together. 123 don't go get the vaccine. We're not doctors. It don't matter what we say. What matters is what doctors say.

Jonathan Bing: 1:49:11

What would him know what matters is

Unknown Speaker: 1:49:13

unproductive? Exactly. I just think it's a one way to who's

Jerry Malcolm: 1:49:19

been Miss Miss elfreda afraid afraid to do me a favor. I'm not in my feelings I'm having I don't need you saying I'm silly. Okay? Because if I was in my feelings I put you in the audience about that

Jonathan Bing: 1:49:28

mean like you always shut me off. So all I'm saying is this right here

Jerry Malcolm: 1:49:34

when we I don't know why people come to my stage and say shit like that. Like would you think I'm getting trouble or someone you talk like that?

Jonathan Bing: 1:49:39

What I'm seeing right here.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:49:43

I'm just letting you know be listen, I'm in my feelings now because you're annoying me. How about that?

Jonathan Bing: 1:49:47

Anyway, so anyway, guys, real quick, guys. All right. So once again, when we and when we're talking about this, we got to be honest with ourselves, and we got to be honest and we got it acknowledge the obvious, okay, we can't sit here and say, you know, that this isn't, you know, well at least and where my timezone. This isn't march to 21st. Okay, it is all right. And if you try to convince me other than that, and I know that it is all credibility is lost. Now there's there's many, many people here on this platform. Okay, I tonight have said that that you shouldn't get the power that you should not get

Jerry Malcolm: 1:50:25

a push that person down to call Johnson a liar just push him in the audience

Jonathan Bing: 1:50:29

that said that you should get the vaccine, okay. And they've said it many, many times. Okay, and you should, you know, cry Oh, I said that. Because I was going to go, I'm going to find out what that answer was for the zoo. And I ignored him. But when you come here and say that no one that you guys have never heard anyone on the app, say that, that that really just takes away from the integrity for another issue that you may want to speak about one day, and people are gonna remember when you did not speak properly about

Grant Cardone: 1:51:03

all the people, all the people 10 years from now where they haven't, when your families experiencing side effects, they'll be able to say, You know what, I made the right call that day, that month that year, I follow my intuition. I disregarded the quote unquote, professionals, the white coats the Medeco. See,

Jonathan Bing: 1:51:21

and meet you, Mike. Why did you What did you do not take the vaccine you said? That's that proves you that prove you right by not taking it.

Grant Cardone: 1:51:33

10 years from now we'll know the truth of that story, brother. Okay, so

Jonathan Bing: 1:51:36

So let me ask you grant, what would you what would you tell? Would you would you tell people not to take the vaccine? I'll take the vaccine. Would you tell people to take the vaccine or not take the vaccine?

Grant Cardone: 1:51:48

I would tell people that more people have survived COVID. All we know about COVID is that hundreds and hundreds of millions, billions of people have survived COVID I think it's fair to say at least a billion people have survived getting sick from COVID. That might be an exaggeration. Hundreds of millions of people have survived COVID. That's what we know to be a fact. And we

Jonathan Bing: 1:52:17

might be right. Right. What a billion. You're probably right. What a billion because the world population.

Grant Cardone: 1:52:21

Yeah, exactly. 1/7 of the world gets sick. We don't know,

Jonathan Bing: 1:52:25

because a lot of people will not report it. That's why I said that. Oh, okay. So you're probably right. That's right. So you're probably right. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah.

Grant Cardone: 1:52:33

So I would just say that, that, you know, are there side effects too long? COVID. Oh, maybe. So they should know, their side effects to the vaccine. We do know, we do know, if Big Pharma historically does what they've done in the past. Even if there are side effects, they'll cover it up. I think everybody in the room would agree to that. So industry did it. oil industries done it for years. But other pharmaceutical medicines. And and they did it with? You know, we think that there's there's some of us that believe that they probably did it with with vaccines and Alzheimer's.

Jonathan Bing: 1:53:17

Okay, so you say don't get the vaccine then? Well, hey, wait, no, wait, one second. One second, one second. One second. One second. No, no, no, no. No, no. Okay, grant. So grant. So what are you saying grant not to get the vaccine? Correct.

Grant Cardone: 1:53:33

I'm saying, I'm saying you guys should do your research. I have not gotten it. My children have not got it. But my children have not gotten any vaccines by the way. When people say man, your kids, man, your kids seem really special. Yeah, okay. Well, we didn't give them the vaccines that might be something we took them out of the public school system, that might be something they get they rather than spending time, seven, eight hours a day in a school room and on YouTube. We took them and traveled around the world and we create a life where they can have an extraordinary life rather than an ordinary life. So I think all that contributes to it not just one thing.

Unknown Speaker: 1:54:12

Plus they plus they have a wonderful

Unknown Speaker: 1:54:16

they got a great dad. I really liked they got

Grant Cardone: 1:54:19

a great dad. And by the way, we think our spirituality is senior to everything in a physical universe, including the body commitments directory, like we believe we believe God God is God his actual entity that has power greater than all the pharmaceutical companies put together all the science ever done on this planet. Man, I praise God, we

Unknown Speaker: 1:54:41

agree with him. 100%

Grant Cardone: 1:54:43

Let's go. Let's go. Let's run a poll on that.

Jonathan Bing: 1:54:46

Who you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because what you said,

Grant Cardone: 1:54:53

all we know about science is science has been wrong more often than it's been right

Jonathan Bing: 1:54:59

but grant the time it had the time they have been right.

Grant Cardone: 1:55:02

Scientists used to believe that Earth was the center of the universe that was scientists that believe in. Scientists used to believe that the world was flat. scientists believed in that okay, scientists the problem was scientists, okay. And even the mathematician okay in the bio engineer, con artists in the world is, is they completely disregard the fact that you are a spiritual entity before you're a physical entity. complete disregard Copeland and his his band of wackos complete disregard for anything spiritual. And by the way, I love doctors. Some of my best friends are doctors. I just want them to understand that I'm a spiritual entity before I'm a physical one. Glad you just asked me a question. So clearly, you're able to

Unknown Speaker: 1:55:56

Okay, Grant. Are you still? Requesting Are you still practicing? Scientologist? Yes, I am. Okay. Yeah, so I understand where you're coming from completely.

Grant Cardone: 1:56:10

Yeah, but I mean, even as a Catholic, you know, I believe I believe the spiritual unit more is more. My faith is more important than any physical concept. All religions believe in spirit. Right? Is it I don't think there's a religion on the planet didn't believe in spirit. The commandment spirit is not a physical spirit spirit. It cannot be contained in a spirit in a physical. It's not measured in a physical plane. And doctors and scientists Jonathan disregard this. When's the last time you you hit your knees? Jonathan? Hit my knees. Yeah, when's the last time you prayed man?

Jonathan Bing: 1:56:51

Oh, okay. I pray often enough, you know

Grant Cardone: 1:56:55

me.

Jonathan Bing: 1:57:00

You know, Grant, and I will tell you some good you give us a perfect pivot. Because the GOP, most of them have broken. What's your boy Trump on Ukraine? And you by the way, on Ukraine, you said that that you create should be provided with support. Okay. And funding.

Grant Cardone: 1:57:22

Yeah. Okay. So you're making a big pivot now?

Jonathan Bing: 1:57:25

What? Well, no, but that did it was do a pivot that was do

Grant Cardone: 1:57:28

you go from God to Trump? That's what I want to know.

Jonathan Bing: 1:57:31

What you guys think you guys think Trump is God. Trump defer. You guys think Trump is God. But that is actually the next topic as we hit the top of the hour. So that we had to hit on so I want to know, why do you feel that the GOP are, I guess breaking with Trump? And not just I mean, the main I mean, not just

Grant Cardone: 1:57:55

traditional, traditional what's it called? Establishment? Politicians, Democrats and Republicans love war, they love it. They can hide all their, their financial irregularities and criminality they can, they can literally cover everything up in printing new money for a war. So they're going to push for this, they're going to say that they're going in to save somebody else. They're not saving anybody. They're definitely not saving the American people. Oh, you guys got to do is go to your local school system, go to your local hospital, look at your streets, you drive to work, to tomorrow, and you're gonna see that we're failing at home. Because we keep trying to to solve the world's problems. When in truth, all we're doing is stealing money from the American public, to fund activities that these guys seem to benefit their families from for the next decades.

Jonathan Bing: 1:58:55

But what does it say about his chances for 2024?

Grant Cardone: 1:58:57

We should. We shouldn't have been. We shouldn't have been in Afghanistan. We shouldn't be in any of these wars. Let's put that money back to work at home.

Jonathan Bing: 1:59:07

Alright, so what I'm saying what does that say about the 2024? When it seems like the new thing is the move away from him?

Grant Cardone: 1:59:13

The GOP moved away from Donald Trump. When he got elected. They moved away when he ran. They've never been look, you know, he is not a Republican or Democrat.

Jonathan Bing: 1:59:27

He's not everybody Damn. What do you mean? No, he's definitely a Republican.

Grant Cardone: 1:59:32

No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not true.

Jonathan Bing: 1:59:35

We will we're not claiming it. We're not calling

Grant Cardone: 1:59:37

it the Democratic Party was in the same position the GOP party was at the time he ran he would I believe he would have run as a Democrat

Jonathan Bing: 1:59:50

anyone agree with that? Anyone agree that

Grant Cardone: 1:59:52

he ran in a party that was weak enough for him to him to to look the guy's a smart dude, man, he got himself into it. position at the right time. Found a party that was weak. And, you know,

Unknown Speaker: 2:00:06

Trump Trump's an opportunist. Of course he ran the weakest party.

Jonathan Bing: 2:00:10

Yeah, you go. The weakest party was that same

Grant Cardone: 2:00:14

and he took the establishment down the bushes, brand and who did he run against when he ran? Who did he take down the bushes? He took down Hillary, Hillary and on the other side

Unknown Speaker: 2:00:26

are so tired of the Clintons, the Bush, Bush, he was the new guy.

Grant Cardone: 2:00:34

Foundation took down he took down the entire foundation did the entire establishment everything. Look Democrats and Republicans are no difference, folks. If we erase their names, you wouldn't know which ones are which. Pelosi McConnell, what are their names? Bunch of goddamn crooks they all been in. By the way. You guys think I'm a Republican? I'm against all these people. I've always said this man. They go in office and say they're going to do X, Y and Z and they don't vote them out. Both vote somebody else. Jonathan, you know, that's what I stand

Jonathan Bing: 2:01:06

for. Yeah, of course.

Grant Cardone: 2:01:08

I've heard for red, white and blue family. First dog. Let's go. Let's let's fix that. Let's 10x America American screw make it better. So I told them I said, Let's not make America great. Let's 10x America, Donald.

Unknown Speaker: 2:01:20

So grand. How is this all gonna happen if everybody in politics will not do the right thing? In other words, the Republicans from my, at least from what I can tell, have absolutely no healthcare plan, no plan for fixing anything, etc. They don't even have a platform, they've actually said we don't have a platform. We just want to get out. So how is this? How is this gonna work? Exactly. Nobody wants to do this.

Grant Cardone: 2:01:44

Let's distract, distract everybody with a war, or before that COVID. And before that a war. And that's when you guys come into play. And you got to say, Hey, I'm done with this war stuff. Let's pay attention to at home and quit getting distracted. It's all magician's trick.

Unknown Speaker: 2:02:02

But what I'm saying is there are no policies on one side at all that I can come up with. Why would appreciate if you would tell me what the Republican policies actually are, for all the things you said we need to do. I see some democratic policies. I might disagree with them. I might agree with them. But I haven't seen any Republican policies.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:02:20

didn't graduate say he's not a repeal? But

Unknown Speaker: 2:02:23

I mean, he's suggesting that if we just didn't spend money on the war, things would happen. Things would happen

Grant Cardone: 2:02:29

that I didn't say, I didn't say that. No, no, it's the people stood up and say I refuse to do any more this year and hope people speak to the bar to fix the schools, the roads, the hospitals, the education system, but it's with us guys. It's not with them. We should fire everybody in office, or it could be one of those. One of those summer movies where they're all obliterated and one day it probably be the best thing to happen in this country. And we start over with Barbara and Tierra. I don't know about Tierra, we bring Mark at Mark alone. Okay, let's go. Okay. Definitely not, Jonathan Jonathan, because you know, you never know what that guy's gonna do. Okay, but pumpkin she'd be worth having in office. Put Bobby in there. Let's go. Let's

Jerry Malcolm: 2:03:13

do Nabis.

Jonathan Bing: 2:03:20

But grant, I'm gonna tell you something when I say this grant, if you you don't agree with the fact that we should support Ukraine and you're full of shit. You're not for USA, USA because freedom matters. Okay. And when we were looking at another country over there be I mean, the war crimes has been happening over there because that's going to eventually touch our homeland. Remember in World War Two, what were we we were isolationist, we did not get involved. We let Germany run rickshaw roughshod over there. And until finally, the Germans had to Japanese attack us. Okay, and we had to go in and do something. So your your thing about standing back doesn't work grant. And it sounds good to the uninformed, uninformed, loves what you're saying. Okay? Because again, it makes them feel safe and comfortable. But people that know what happened there know what, the history the reason we study history, because guess what, it gives us insight. Okay, anyone that knows history knows a grant and I want to explain this, that eventually we're going to be touched by what's going on over there, Putin and Russia.

Grant Cardone: 2:04:27

We should pass a constitutional law to not be involved in any more wars. And we should make it known to the world. You guys want to rape and pillage fine. We're not going to get involved. We're going to spend all the money right here at home try to attack us we will freakin take you off. Don't play with us. Don't Jack witness. Don't mess with us and take all the money that we're wasting trillions of dollars. How much in Afghanistan 2 trillion $2 trillion. Spend all that in the streets.

Unknown Speaker: 2:05:00

Right, grant my friend,

Grant Cardone: 2:05:02

John Legere. Bert, nothing John Legend gets nothing. Cut John learn from every grant guy. Hey, John, I'm getting it right now, John, by the way, I want to buy you an ID for your birthday.

Unknown Speaker: 2:05:12

Okay, but first of all, happy birthday. I hope the group saying happy birthday.

Grant Cardone: 2:05:19

No, no, no, we don't have to do

Unknown Speaker: 2:05:23

that. Secondly, the world wars don't start. They happen through a progressive set of actions. So you can't pass a law that says we won't get involved in World Wars. The issue is when there's something that takes place, that is an invasive action that could lead to a world war. You need to be astute. So just one time,

Grant Cardone: 2:05:51

when's the last time we had a world war?

Jonathan Bing: 2:05:57

We do one. We do one grant, if you want to say if you want to say that we do for last time

Grant Cardone: 2:06:01

we had one in 45. Yeah, let me 70 years, right. Mm hmm. What we've been doing for the last seven years playing cyber attack.

Unknown Speaker: 2:06:13

You rebuild Germany rebuild Japan set up an alliance that preserve the peace?

Jonathan Bing: 2:06:19

Yeah. So Can anybody

Unknown Speaker: 2:06:24

explain why you Koreans, the biggest donor of the Clinton Foundation?

Grant Cardone: 2:06:27

Please, please?

Unknown Speaker: 2:06:30

Can you find chokes? No.

Grant Cardone: 2:06:32

What are we doing? What are we doing funding 34 bio research labs in Ukraine.

Unknown Speaker: 2:06:38

Okay, you really want to know, you want to know the answer for real or do you not care? Was that? Okay? Here's the answer. There was a law passed by lugar none basically a 1991 when the when the Soviet Union was being ripped apart, but they wanted to do there were a lot of dangerous pathogens around in the former Soviet territories. And so what they said is we've got to control these pathogens, otherwise, they could destroy the world they can get out, etc. So the Russians have known about this for years. In fact, there was a lab set up in Russia and Siberia under that same program, okay. It's been well known.

Grant Cardone: 2:07:13

Maybe after Wuhan, maybe after Wuhan. Putin doesn't like the idea anymore. Well,

Unknown Speaker: 2:07:17

but what I'm trying to say. But all of this is all of this is nonsense. They constantly complain about this, even though they liked him in the beginning because it was helpful to them. So they're making up this thing about bio weapons,

Grant Cardone: 2:07:29

which are two next pennies back on and go back to your Google search.

Unknown Speaker: 2:07:33

You know, Grant, okay, I'm not even gonna go there right now, because I am sort of joking about the fact that people are making this up. And they're accepting

Grant Cardone: 2:07:43

diapers, John.

Unknown Speaker: 2:07:47

better answer grant, give you okay. It's safer for us to have those Bio Labs in other countries than it is to have them all safer for us. But not for Yeah. 100% Yeah. 100% from a national security

Grant Cardone: 2:08:03

viewer, viewer, Putin, if you or Putin or you were a devout, you know, devout Russian that believed in being a Russian, as much as we believe in and being American, how would you feel about having 34 bio research labs in your front yard? I wouldn't like

Unknown Speaker: 2:08:24

by the way, the bio lab number goes up a lot every time went from 14 to 34. Yeah, you know.

Jonathan Bing: 2:08:40

Just like those COVID numbers. So great. So once again, here's the thing, you can't say that we're going to sign along and they're not going to warn that that's unreasonable. And what's happening right now in terms and you know, you want to be honest, we're actually Ukraine is actually winning ever been

Grant Cardone: 2:08:59

involved in a war? I think they have a law we're not doing this

Unknown Speaker: 2:09:04

but this law is that Russia has a law that he can use that he will and use and they will use nuclear power if it means the end of their state. It is literally written into their law it means the end of their state and the Russian state they will use nuclear power to defend it and based on all these sanctions and everything we're doing we're ending his fucking state let's just be right

Jonathan Bing: 2:09:24

now. ending his state we're not invading his state. Okay state will still be there. It's the minutes the man because the man the man will be gone. Okay. And everything will be lifted. It comes back where it was may take some time.

Unknown Speaker: 2:09:39

John, it'll take time we essentially we are you we are diminishing that state. I mean, what is the currency currently? We're diminishing that

Jonathan Bing: 2:09:50

we're diminishing Russia. Are we doing it or

Unknown Speaker: 2:09:53

not? Hello, Mike. Hey, listen, my friend so If a thug, murderer, or criminal has weapons, and threatens us that if he uses those, if we push him too far he'll use the weapons. Is that a reason to just step back?

Unknown Speaker: 2:10:18

No, but like somebody said in one of these rooms, one of these knights was in talking about this. And they made a great point like, we might have to get him an out, we might have to give the guy and out elsif will be nuclear

Unknown Speaker: 2:10:29

war you. Absolutely.

Jonathan Bing: 2:10:31

I agree. I agree. I agree. We gotta get him out. I agree. But that's my

Unknown Speaker: 2:10:36

world. The world will agree that Ukraine won't go into NATO for five years or 10 years or however long and he steps back there's a regime change Putin gets somehow moved out and by the way five years from now if Ukraine moves into NATO it's a second story so that's that's the I don't

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:02

I don't see I don't know if that's I don't know if that's the case bro. I don't I don't know man. This is like Britain's last battle cry man.

Grant Cardone: 2:11:09

Like don't call John bro don't call John bro. Sorry about

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:13

that. Sorry about that you're cooking segments

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:22

I got a question. So is you're giving him an out basically saying that Ukraine should pretty much just surrender or give him some territory for him to claim is that

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:35

China will do the same fucking thing then. But I mean, what else what other options do we have? We have three of the biggest guys in the yard with that.

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:41

So by your logic Hold on, hold on. So by all logic, what you're saying is if Russia decides to come to Alaska next week, okay

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:48

Alaska are you mean Alaska territory

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:53

limits okay, but here's the thing.

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:58

Fucking limits Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:59

Would you agree on the fact that Ukraine is a sovereign country that they have a right to hold on to DNA

Unknown Speaker: 2:12:05

okay right to their sovereignty 100% But if the big man next door saying boys in the yard

Grant Cardone: 2:12:19

he's a big bad boy. Yeah, I mean

Unknown Speaker: 2:12:24

is that a lot of people God forbid if they were in leadership position they will simply say You know what, Ukraine here you are just go Go ahead

Unknown Speaker: 2:12:34

is avoid the nuclear option that's all everyone

Unknown Speaker: 2:12:39

needs to know the world cannot sit around and worry about the nuclear option nonstop so we should arm you agree with that grain Ukraine should and they possibly are pushed back Russia find some fuckin face saving way for Russia to move back because they know they're they're not done okay. And and by the way, Putin should be removed at all costs

Grant Cardone: 2:13:13

for kill

Jonathan Bing: 2:13:14

let me just say this right you guys right now. And I read some of the day Jerry and I would when we're doing the production guess what guys? There's reports out there and the United States doesn't want to say it that Ukraine is actually winning. They blocked off all they clogged it up all the rows. So are they the Russians? They are they aren't really advancing anymore. They're pretty much at a standstill at this point. That's ridiculous. What do you mean is this ridiculous now? No, that's not saying that Russia doesn't have more, I guess. artillery weapons. But once again, right now they're at a standstill with what they've done. They really can't get through now and they can't get through but the whole world will stand up all right. Do what they need to do to get through the whole world will stand up

Unknown Speaker: 2:14:03

Hey John, it's still early in the fight remember how many years

Jonathan Bing: 2:14:08

exactly I understand that. But right now given Okay. Everyone look at the size of Russia Look at the size of Russia's military budget Look at the size of Russia's military period and look at Ukraine there is no way

Unknown Speaker: 2:14:32

look at the stupid way Russia has rolled these long strings of tanks and and give these fucking guys the Poland ownership of the Russian MiGs. Let them have some air superiority or ability and give a we continue to give them anti aircraft and anti air capabilities. That long fucking convoy of It's a citizen tank.

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:04

And we did nothing. They did nothing.

Jonathan Bing: 2:15:07

They couldn't they don't have the air. They don't have the air planes they had. They had access to airplanes, they would have wiped them out.

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:17

And the pilots to John,

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:19

Jonathan, you took Russia, nine months to leave Afghanistan. And they lost. So we're like, we're just barely into

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:30

it. It was days. So what happened to that guy, Laura?

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:34

He never said it was gonna take four days. That is propaganda. He it took him nine months and they Afghan Afghanis defeated them. So do I believe that Ukraine can come up victorious?

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:47

Yeah. Yep, Daddy's did not defeat them. Yes guarantees by the United States of America. And we fought a proxy war. And we supported the Museo de with our weapons, and our military might against Russia. That's that's what happened. That's what was largely pushed back. Not not the Afghans themselves, the United States is held.

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:14

And wait. Russia within Afghanistan. Laura was in Russia in Afghanistan for nine

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:20

months. No, no, no, nine

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:22

years, nine years. You're wrong. Nine years.

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:27

went a long day and competently. We've won

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:30

a proxy war there for many years. And it was a standoff because it was just there.

Jonathan Bing: 2:16:36

Many people. Yeah. And

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:39

he didn't number weapons. And then soldiers died. We weren't losing our people. Forever, unless they finally said, enough.

Jonathan Bing: 2:16:48

Yeah. Afghanistan is totally different. This is a flat terrain. That was a mountainous terrain that they had no familiarity with. And it's hard to fight so on.

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:00

But Jonathan, Jonathan,

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:01

question isn't United States technically came to Ukraine right now. We're doing exactly the same thing.

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:15

The drones, the drones, the Ukrainians using so effectively, where do you think drones came from?

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:25

By the way, by the way, we need 100 times more drones than we've given. Oh,

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:32

no, John, they're using kamikaze drones bro. drones that actually detonate on impact approach for you for not just soldiers but also the tanks and stuff now we just sent like, quite a few million now we didn't

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:50

know was sending him to NATO, right.

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:54

Ukraine. Yeah, I

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:55

mean, everything's got to go through the NATO

Unknown Speaker: 2:17:57

like we're not sending we're not sending directly to avoid the appearance that we're back the

Unknown Speaker: 2:18:03

back. Yeah, but that's all window dressing. We know that right? Let's be real. And China also got a law. China also got a law that of all peaceful talks don't work for Taiwan that they have to fucking invade their country that gets on the papers. You guys can look this stuff up like it's in their in their doctrine.

Unknown Speaker: 2:18:25

So weed man, weed man, you were just saying give up Ukraine. Just a second ago. I thought I saw you left the room. I was like, Yeah, give him an out. Give them out. Just let them take over and take Ukraine. That's ridiculous. And that was that was ridiculous. You said it until even grant pushback

Unknown Speaker: 2:18:41

we would have to avoid we would have to give them out to avoid nuclear war. That's exactly what

Unknown Speaker: 2:18:49

you know, giving them

Unknown Speaker: 2:18:51

give him Ukraine. I said they have a right to fight for their sovereignty. When mama do ask me that's exactly what

Unknown Speaker: 2:18:57

I said on negotiation or diplomacy. You have to let both sides save face. You've got to give him some sort of an out. And that does not imply giving him Ukraine. But when we call him a war criminal law means don't get him out. You track a rat. The rat is going to strike striking, predictable ways.

Jonathan Bing: 2:19:23

Are you suggesting we give him a diplomatic

Unknown Speaker: 2:19:24

out which allows him to get perhaps a buffer zone between

Jonathan Bing: 2:19:30

a buffer a buffer zone give him give him

Unknown Speaker: 2:19:40

he's already got the land Jonathan

Unknown Speaker: 2:19:45

is a war criminal. He will be yes but

Unknown Speaker: 2:19:50

it needs to be no doubt has to be we can't hang his ass on public fucking TV. That's essentially what it's gonna be because he's not

Unknown Speaker: 2:19:59

he's not But

Unknown Speaker: 2:20:01

why not? I mean, ultimately his people will be the ones to do it.

Unknown Speaker: 2:20:07

Oh, no, I don't believe that shit, man, that just sounds like That sounds so empty.

Unknown Speaker: 2:20:12

Let me tell you this dude, if you are going to war and you're starting to detain the very people that are supposed to help you with your planning as he did with the head of his FSB, something is not going right. You know what? I mean? How would you feel? If God forbid America?

Unknown Speaker: 2:20:25

That's what? That's what communists do when they run their country and make those decisions. But

Unknown Speaker: 2:20:32

here's the thing, how would you feel right now, if you were in the middle of a fight and decided, You know what he's gonna let

Unknown Speaker: 2:20:39

you take out food and you're gonna have generations of people trying to kill you and your entire family to understand what you're doing? Why?

Jonathan Bing: 2:20:51

No, actually, he's not you don't take one second. One second, brother. Hold on, hold on. Let me just say this to you real quick, because you're saying that man was highly love, he wouldn't be living in a bunker. Okay, he wouldn't be sitting in a table 50 feet away from his generals. Alright, so that's, that's not a man that was like, that's not a man that is highly loved. Okay, well, yes.

Wait, wait, wait one second brother, one second one. Like, what was that? Lady speaking was that Tara,

Unknown Speaker: 2:21:29

I have an article.

Jonathan Bing: 2:21:30

I know, if you're no good lord,

Unknown Speaker: 2:21:32

I have an article that I can back channel you. They've already picked a replacement for Putin and who will go in. And other people need to remember that in during the Cold War. The mothers of Russia protested in the streets of they're getting these letters, that their songs are coming back dead. They're not getting these letters yet, from these Russian soldiers that are dying in the Ukraine. Do not for one minute believe that the Russian people will not protest against Putin because they did it in Russia in the 80s against the cold war, because all their sons were dying, Jonathan, more than happy. Jonathan, I'm more than happy to send you the backlink of the gentlemen that they're talking about replacing Putin as we speak.

Unknown Speaker: 2:22:17

Alright, so listen, for that day to happen. Because I'm telling you now his inner circle his closest knit people, I'll guarantee you, no one's gonna fucking kill them.

Unknown Speaker: 2:22:26

Here's the thing, dude. Here's the problem with that at the moment, okay. He's in a circle. A lot of these guys are under sanctions, okay. These are people that were living comfortable lives. Okay, they had everything going right for them. The oligarchs that he was doing business with Dan losing shit every single day. And I know people keep constantly saying that, okay, you know, they have opportunities to go to other countries and all that the US has been doing everything it can, alongside its partners, basically to tighten the belt. And these guys, just just think of yourself, man. If you were in a situation where everything you have, you're losing that shit, or because of one stupid man. Eventually, okay, one or two people are gonna start talking behind the scenes and something is gonna like something's got to give, and you got to understand, okay. Russia, there's a lot of reasons why. You get a lot of reasons. That's the wives, right.

Jonathan Bing: 2:23:24

Brian, Brian O'Neill and Brian. Yeah, there's

Unknown Speaker: 2:23:26

a lot of reasons why people in Russia will be mad at Vladimir Putin. I'll give you an example. There was a time one of their submarines ended up thinking Putin had an opportunity to get help from the west. Okay. Yes, and guess what? He did not. It was so late. Eventually. No agents, divers that were ultimately were the ones that came in by the time these you know, these individuals were gone. I think Laura said something about Russian mothers, you you should see a video about women coming out back then. Okay, cussing at the government and all that and then I was

Unknown Speaker: 2:24:03

alive then if I may add, this is Laura. I was alive and watch this live on the television. If you do not think that the Russian people have an influence on their government. Once they start protesting in the streets, you're all mistaken. Everybody is getting this man like he's untouchable. Nobody in his country is going to kill him. Their old guards, their old guards are losing their soccer teams and Grant Cardone is buying their jets. So for one minute don't think that they're going to put their wealth and their position in in society and Russia ahead of Putin's life. They really quick.

Jonathan Bing: 2:24:44

One mic one mic one mic guys. One mic. Yeah, you guys. When someone's talking. Look, I don't mind you guys. Back and forth. John, John.

Unknown Speaker: 2:24:56

10 seconds on my plane. No one's gonna He's old guard, we're not going to protect him. If they start losing all their wealth and their families. I mean, there's people in Daytona racing that were rushing fertilizer owner that's having to give up his race car here. You don't understand people are motivated, motivated by their own money and taking care of their own families over Putin's life, they will rebuild again.

Jonathan Bing: 2:25:23

Alright, they can now No, no, no, no, no. Do I want second, bro? John. Okay, let's go. Because we didn't want other people involved in this conversation. Yes, go hey, great.

Unknown Speaker: 2:25:31

Did you want to say something before? Okay, so So John, here's a deal. You know, I don't know what's truth or fiction. But the story is that remember, Putin was a KGB Junior Junior agent that the oligarchs found, and decided he would become the head of Russia. They brought him in, they put him in, they stuck him in through whatever means they use. And the story goes, that in the months following his becoming the head of Russia, he called the oligarchs in and sat them down. And he told them, that the world has changed. I am now the head of Russia, and you're not. And if you all want to keep your wealth, and your capabilities, then you just sit back, but I'm in charge. And then that's the period of time where many, many of the oligarchs disappeared, fell out of windows all of a sudden woke up dead. So I don't think there's a chummy relationship between the oligarchs and Putin. You know, it was a strange relationship. He told them that they could keep their wealth and capability if they step back. And he was in charge of prism.

Jonathan Bing: 2:26:57

I say I remember he in prison, the richest one in Russia. Why would I forget?

Unknown Speaker: 2:27:04

Hey, John, this is a CD Baby know exactly what Mr. Leger just said is exactly right. What happened back in 2001, he took all of those oligarchy to Stalin's old house, and he separated, you know, the privatization the business from the state. And he said that he's in charge now. And that gracias has is still there. You know, when, when Boris, which was the original oligarch who was actually right, he's, he's the one who found, you know, Putin and put him into into office, you know, I know styling. I mean, I think it was Kilson, who stepped out of office three months prior to his, the end of his term and, and decided to give it up to him. But this was, right. That's right. And but it was, it was all in plant, you know. And so, you know, he surgically started removing these oligarchs, and you know, he started with Boris. And then he started with the other one when, you know, going attacking the television shows basically saying when we're there to own his own party, and things of that nature, you know, saying that, you know, he didn't want them talking about Russia and things of that nature and trying to control their voices and essentially kick some folks out, you know, some people love to die and things of that nature. And that's a continuing thing, you know, and right now, I know people keep saying that these oligarchs are Putin's wallet, personal wallet, but there's a grudge there. And they have not forgotten they have not forgotten what happened to the previous all the guards in front of him. And I truly believe that they are going to be the deciding factor on this thing. Guardians

Unknown Speaker: 2:28:26

don't come one second think it might not be one of them. That takes him I

Unknown Speaker: 2:28:29

don't think so. Law, I think we are a far place from Putin being taken out. He's heavily protected by his own troops, his own secret service. The oligarchs probably are not getting that close to him. I'm sure he's not really meeting with almost anyone. And I think I think while there is disgruntlement, the people still fundamentally support him because they're not getting legitimate truth. And they're not getting the facts of what's really going on. Hey, right.

Unknown Speaker: 2:28:57

Why would he sit at 40 foot tables, military leaders, unless

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:07

you guys are using that to justify the hate for him. And there's many articles and news and news, fake news, go on there and look, his people do some of this. People support him just like some people support war here. And

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:20

he had a rally and he forced all the teachers in the country to go sit there and wait for him.

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:27

Yeah, but like, sitting across the table and going through a stadium full of 200,000 plus people and I mean, he's doing it all right. Yeah, he's well protected.

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:37

Yeah. I agree with that. And I don't think we can sort of assume that he's going to be taken out in a quick timeframe. Let's just say I do agree with weed man that we need some sort of off ramp for him. But I disagree with Redman because I think if we give him too much, then his next step is not Alaska. His next step is Poland or Finland.

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:55

So I agree with that. I agree with you under so you don't disagree with me on that

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:59

point. What I'm trying to say is we cannot however, let that happen. Poland. No, it isn't. No. So how do you stop

Unknown Speaker: 2:30:08

this? Come on a second touch Poland,

Unknown Speaker: 2:30:11

the Article, Article Five should kick in. Right?

Unknown Speaker: 2:30:15

The setback would crush him in his country. And even China would come in on if he if he moved another inch. That would be the end. And it would level Russia and him

Unknown Speaker: 2:30:29

that I think so to get for him to be taken out by an oligarch it doesn't necessarily mean the oligarch himself. No, no, I hope you're not implying

Unknown Speaker: 2:30:41

No, no, what I'm saying. I think he is heavily guarded, I think. I mean, I think that was a really interesting thing. He did go to a stadium of 200,000 people and nobody killed him. Right? He has protection. And he's not universally hated right now at all people in St. Petersburg, and Moscow might have much more of a sense of what's really going on. But people in the provinces, I think he's pretty, you know, still popular, and Loras. Right, this might change as the body bags start to come back.

Jonathan Bing: 2:31:07

You don't know, one second one second one. Second, you guys because we keep going back and forth about him being taken out? How does this end? You know, how do I mean? How does this go out? Me? How do we see this ending? Because right now, what's what's right now we're at a point in this war? Where is it going to become an occupation? You know, is it going to be sort of like how we were in Afghanistan, Russia is gonna have their outpost, and it's gonna be like, a daytime while they try to figure it out? Yeah. Well,

Unknown Speaker: 2:31:36

I believe it'll turn into no man's land. That he's not moving back, bro.

Unknown Speaker: 2:31:41

Oh, what I think, Jonathan, as far as the outcome, but again, take this with a grain of salt. I'm no expert or anything like that. But this is going to be an Afghanistan 2.0 It's quite possible that the current government landscape government might fall. Okay, America will continue to basically keep arming these guys kind of like what Reagan did when the Soviets were in Afghanistan. But eventually, there's going to be war fatigue, okay? The Russians, because you got to understand the people they are killing. These are not just individual people from Afghanistan, these are their brothers, cousins, or whatever, okay? Too many people are gonna die. And for me, as far as I'm concerned, and this is where I'm going to lend my plane. Porn is going to be taken out in one way or another, I am 100% convinced of this, it's going to be one way, either when he gets killed by his inner circle, okay? Someone within the system or there's going to be a cool people are going to say is ridiculous. Or there's going to be an uprising, a point where or Russians come out and say, You know what, they want an end to his government and their justification. You're wrong. Okay, that's fine.

Unknown Speaker: 2:32:51

That's fine. You know what? Mama do wrong, ya know?

Unknown Speaker: 2:32:59

In other countries, usually, you know what people assume that, that the citizens of that country are always going to be fearful. But then you know what, people are going to be afraid to a point and once they hit that point, trust me.

Jonathan Bing: 2:33:12

I'm gonna do one mic one mic one mic one. When my guys want my mama, do I have a question for you? What happened in tenement square when the people came out? in full force? What happened here? Many

Unknown Speaker: 2:33:23

people died.

Jonathan Bing: 2:33:25

Okay, so what did it change,

Unknown Speaker: 2:33:28

people are gonna die. I mean, when you have

Jonathan Bing: 2:33:30

someone that's not afraid to use force weight, you have someone not afraid to use force on their own people. Okay? That, you know, that scenario where you see people come out, and it's gonna be, it's gonna cause change. That may not be the case. But

Unknown Speaker: 2:33:45

Jonathan, that's bullshit. That's here's the thing. The people of China could take the country over any single day they decide, Well, friends gonna come? Yep, I got a Tiananmen Square on June 4, when it took place, that we remember that the Communist Party is about 2% of the population 1% of the population. They're doing a socialist market economy that allows people to experiment with things. And then there was a small group of people that had been occupying Tiananmen Square, the rural parts of the country had never come in to the coastal cities, which they have now. But the second that the people of China decide that communism is communism is over. It's over. Because it's a it's a 98 to two

Unknown Speaker: 2:34:41

How did never gonna make that decision? John, John? No,

Unknown Speaker: 2:34:47

that's the conversation No, for real. How do they how can they play in such a thing in a communist country like China that sees everything? How can you pull off such an accomplishment such a defeat in a country like China?

Jonathan Bing: 2:34:59

You can't Do one Michael John, guys, well, Michael, John one, Michael John.

Unknown Speaker: 2:35:10

I'm talking about Jonathan using Tiananmen Square as a reason to block what could possibly happen in Russia. No,

Jonathan Bing: 2:35:20

I'm not using as a reason to block what I said, John, in Russia

Unknown Speaker: 2:35:23

right now, there are 1000s and 1000s of people protesting including the families of the richest people in the country who all of a sudden their lives have changed. They're used to a very open the people in China never had an open live. They you know, they were they were they were kind of constrained to begin with. The people in Russia had a very global very open, very capitalistic live that has shut the fuck down. These sanctions have really crashed them down. So the the, the precursor for a coup in China in Russia is gigantic. Okay. He's

Jonathan Bing: 2:36:10

brought me to my bro meeting. Mike. I, John, what I will say to you is in tenement square, the fill in the uprising was, I mean, the filling was there. Yeah, I don't know if you recall that. And they came in and they fired on their own people. And once they did that two people dispersed and hauled ass. Okay. So if not afraid to use the turning, oh, Paul's not afraid to turn it on military honest people like, like China did, because China did turn it on military, on their own people. Alright. And he got under control rather quickly.

Unknown Speaker: 2:36:42

Jonathan, the people that China has. Every time there's a

Unknown Speaker: 2:36:47

revolution, the weapons, the 2% have 100% of the weapons. That's a concern. Yes. And my. My concern, John, is that the Russian people, instead of blaming Putin, blame the West for their

Unknown Speaker: 2:37:03

Exactly. It's not about blame.

Unknown Speaker: 2:37:08

He controls the press once. And he's probably got the press convinced. This is Biden. This is America. And this is capitalism and their imperialistic government. We've got to fight back. And I bet that's a narrative that's going on over there. And only a select few concede, but see between the lines of what's really going on.

Jonathan Bing: 2:37:34

Mama, Mama, do you talk to new people, we are able to bring some women in here. I want to bring some new people. Because a lot of people join the stage during this conversation. Obviously, they have something they want to say. But

Unknown Speaker: 2:37:44

yeah, all I wanted to say is this every single time a revolution happens, right? an uprising happens in countries like that. The people already a lot of them would usually expect to eat or die or something. I mean, America, I'm not from here. So I'm pretty sure a lot of the freedoms we all get to enjoy today is because some people went out there and died for it. And yes, Putin is definitely going to kill his people. He should. I mean, look, did you see his guy? He used to be a former Russian military guy, or he was a KGB agent. Sergei. Is it Chris Paul? The guy that was poisoned in the UK? Okay. Yes, yeah, exactly. This guy has shown time and time again. He is ruthless. And it's not just him. There was something earlier somebody said about him. I think it was John about the fact that he had a fractured relationship with the oligarchs. That same playbook is what is being employed in Saudi Arabia, if you remember the Crown Prince. And this is where I'm going to let Muhammad he basically he basically, he rounded up people from the royal family, including his own uncle's basically trying to tell them that hey, here I am. I am in charge. So you know, it's nothing. All right.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:38:55

All right. I want to I want to take a do a quick little commercial break for a second and remind everybody because we do got a bunch of new people in the room. And for those that do not know yet, if you look at that link up top is debate news. That's the podcast. So debate news is an actual podcast, you will be able to go to debate the news.com you will also be able to go to your favorite platform, whether it's Amazon or Apple, Spotify, whatever your favorite platform of choice is, I'm going to ask you to give it a visit and download some episodes. We got a couple from last week that if you guys haven't heard it, you're gonna be laughing for about an hour straight, incredible, incredible ones he got with some good little debates going on. Also, I want to thank everybody in the room the newbies and I'm going to ask you to also follow the debate the news one of the fastest growing clubs on this app, debate the news you see the green house at the top. Also I want to thank these moderators for joining us but I'm going to also ask you follow Mr. Jonathan Bing and myself Jerry Malcolm put the bell on so when we do these rooms you guys will get a notice because membership has its privileges. You got to be finished bro. Membership have this privilege. just No, you definitely want to, you know, jump in early so you can get to the top of the stage. So you don't get overlooked. Now in saying that is,

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:08

can we mentioned a happy birthday to Grant Cardone?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:40:11

We did a few times and he every time he every

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:14

time he leaves, he doesn't like it. Yeah, yeah.

Jonathan Bing: 2:40:17

Yeah, yes. Okay.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:40:18

So once again, everybody, if you're in the audience, raise your hand come to the stage. We're going to mix this up a little bit. We're gonna bring a couple more ladies involved. Appreciate all you peoples jumping in. But let's, let's get some new people involved that has not jumped in the conversation. Is there anybody on this stage right now? That would like to join the conversation? If so, state your name, and the mic is yours. Doo, doo, doo?

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:43

No, Lauren.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:40:46

Okay, if nobody else wants to jump in, we'll go to both Laura and Duke. But if any, you know what, I'm gonna tell you all this, okay? Starting tomorrow. If you're on the stage, and you're not joining the conversation, you're not going to be on stage. So this is all about let's join the conversation. Let's engage I understand you want to kick it, but I want some people to join in the conversation. Go ahead, Duke.

Unknown Speaker: 2:41:04

Yeah, I want I just want to quickly say here is that I want everybody to understand that this situation is fluid. It's like it's a moving water that you don't even know where it's gonna move to. So we keep thinking what the oligarch is going to do to put in we are not thinking about the change in government in our own country. Right. So what if we are Republican when the Senate and and the and the house in November? Do you think President Biden is going to have the full you know power to make negotiation outside America? So let's say for instance, Iran, Iran deal Iran will be like for me to even talk to you you need to give me assurance you can get 60 Senator to sign whatever you sign it with me, which is legitimate because once you get anything done with them, they can't get it. So when we think like oh, one oligarch is gonna kill this guy, or this thing is going to happen. We are not thinking like this election in France this year. So if the party in power loses, then the foreign policy is going to change. We

Jerry Malcolm: 2:42:02

are a thing I think I think those businessmen are going to kill Putin. What are you gonna do put put a hit out on how do you think after all, after, after all these years, how do you think you're gonna? That's almost like,

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:15

like, well, you know, the Russians actually have a history of taking out their most vicious dictators from Putin. He was way more vicious is no

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:26

different.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:42:28

Putin was a KGB well I don't know Stalin was different from the boons on a different level bro

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:35

yeah

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:37

he's calculated way

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:41

died of a stroke you know that right?

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:43

Exactly

Jerry Malcolm: 2:42:49

exactly that's why I'm trying to join some Oh, but wait a second. Wait a second bro. I know you passionate you want to jump in but okay, DJ I'm a dude let me go to DJ for one second let DJ land his own cuz he's trying to spin some records right now. Go ahead

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:02

DJ. When Stalin had a stroke he was damn near out of power. He was just like he didn't just he wasn't the monster and then he had a stroke and that's how they got rid of them

Jerry Malcolm: 2:43:12

but you just said a minute ago that they get rid of the US Dollar as an example. Yeah, come on, bro. I don't get it. DJ listen. No

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:19

Listen, listen. Listen.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:43:21

You gotta be consistent brother

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:24

come out of power before he had his stroke

Jerry Malcolm: 2:43:28

like no you said taken out we're talking about taking out as far as killing or murdering.

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:33

I'm talking about they have a history of taking those people out of power.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:43:37

Oh no. Okay, we come on something else. Okay, okay, you injected at the wrong moment. DJ you you got to put it you got to spend a different record

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:45

when Russian citizens doesn't have enough they had

Jerry Malcolm: 2:43:49

I can I can guarantee you they will not be able to take him out unless they take him out. They are not good they're pruning going nowhere no time soon. That's my opinion. I could be that could be wrong. I could be wrong one second one second once I got what you say John

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:07

5000 bucks says within three months he's dead

Jerry Malcolm: 2:44:11

5000 bucks within three months. Putin dead goons dead bed Yeah, wait, wait wait John Johnson. Okay, no, no, I'll take that back. No, no,

Jonathan Bing: 2:44:22

no. John, John

Jerry Malcolm: 2:44:31

Okay, John, John and Jerry's on I take that back three months. So today's date. Today's date is what? Okay, cool. I'll take that back. Okay. No, no, he gave no that's a Jerry and John bed. Jerry John. Three, three months? No, no, no, three months Putin is dead. He added another five grand

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:52

add another five grand to it.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:44:55

Whose way who said that? Who said that? That's i

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:59

I'll take that. But deep,

Jerry Malcolm: 2:45:01

Jerry? No, no, it's a one person bet. Hey, but listen, guys, I want to remind y'all one more thing. Jonathan I, when I say make sure you follow Jonathan Jerry's reason, because we're gonna be doing some private rooms, we're gonna be talking about some stuff and debate to do some exclusive stuff. And it's gonna be private rooms, that you have to be a member of the club and follow Jonathan and Jerry. So I highly advise you. We got a surprise coming up in two weeks. I highly recommend that you pick up the ball right now. Surprise if you're talking about it right now, Jerry. No, it's a surprise it what's gonna go on in there? It's a surprise. It's gonna go on Jonathan. Always trying to jab at me. It's a surprise that what's gonna go on in the room?

Unknown Speaker: 2:45:37

It's gonna be Putin's funeral.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:45:40

No, it's gonna be a celebration party. For my 5k Okay,

Unknown Speaker: 2:45:46

gotta be careful. Cuz, you know, John's gonna have Putin's T Mobile Phone. He could have done the whole damn thing, Rick.

Unknown Speaker: 2:45:56

Hey, listen, I'm just visualizing and hoping to actualize the thing that we best for the world.

Jonathan Bing: 2:46:04

Oh, wow. I don't disagree.

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:07

Yeah, I respect that. I agree. It's

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:11

something to the conversation.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:46:13

Yes. You can't wait, wait, I want the lady is going to add some to the conversation. What's your name is?

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:17

Dr. Angela?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:46:19

Dr. Angela, what are you going to add to the conversation? And please don't say go on there, my grant

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:26

where we're getting one side of the story. And we're getting pounded with one side of the story. And, you know, in the past, when we've only gotten just one side of the story, we've usually gotten it wrong. And I know, you know,

Jerry Malcolm: 2:46:44

speak on a doctor, I know some cool about you speak on a doctor.

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:48

So I just think that we should be careful, and just how what we're seeing and how we're interpreting it because there are two sides to a story. And if we listen to the media, we think that you know, Putin, we don't I don't know the man personally or anything like that. But you know, Russia doesn't have the kind of violent history that we have in terms of Star Wars. So you know, I

Jerry Malcolm: 2:47:21

a doctor, you better be careful. You better hold on because you got to get attacked.

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:26

But I'm just saying that there are two sides to this story.

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:32

What are you?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:47:34

What let him ask the question, no, no, wait, John asked her question. John asked Dr. Gray. John.

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:40

Are children dying? In Russia?

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:43

Yes. Just like children died in Iraq.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:47:45

That's Doctor doctor. He's talking to you. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:48

I imagine they are. They're dying in Iraq. They're dying in this country. Okay. What

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:55

is the Ukraine bombing? Innocent people in Russia?

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:01

Yes. Yes. They are in those reports about that as well.

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:05

Yeah. People die everywhere.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:48:10

Is that the end of the question? Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:19

smoked out the propaganda machine. So let's listen to them.

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:23

They are they okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, the machine is they are also bombing the nest. All right, which is a Russian stronghold, which has Russian separatists, which has actually Russian families inside that area. And it happens to actually be the highest populated region in Ukraine, you can go and research that. And it's been on the it's been on the defense for quite some time. And one of the reasons why Russia might be might have come in, but more importantly, weaponry is being used indiscriminately. So both sides, children, or children die, or children die. And, and by the time hold on a second. And by the time if we count how many days we've been into this conflict, all right, this operation, which is approximately 24 days, if my my numbers are correct, by the time 24 days passed in Iraq, a lot more children were dead by this point. A lot.

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:21

Okay. But what my friend

Jerry Malcolm: 2:49:26

you gotta you gotta you gotta share the mic. Oh, no.

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:29

I you referring to portions of the Ukraine?

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:33

Yes, I am. I am before referring to patients. So I

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:37

asked you about Russia, you're referring to the first two components of Ukraine that Russia declared were states of Russia because of their complete alliances to them. And now you're talking about Ukraine, having an impact on Ukraine. I'm talking about Russia is Russia as a country face The killing of women, children, families, the bombing of buildings indiscriminately, and you just gave me a Ukraine separatist region.

Unknown Speaker: 2:50:12

So So when when, when America invaded Iraq, I don't think anything was happening in DC.

Unknown Speaker: 2:50:20

That was a yes or no question.

Unknown Speaker: 2:50:24

The type of war was different when we invaded Iraq, we bombarded Iraq first we came in with bombs and we blew up all the installments and stuff like that. And we had some missiles and we bombed some buildings, etc. Russia didn't really initiate this, this attack like that. Not the way

Unknown Speaker: 2:50:43

we're talking Hold on a second now we're talking military strategy. So hold your second, hold on a second. Hold on a second. The initial the initial talking point was the number of human casualty that include children

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:06

on strategy that number

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:09

is Ukraine. No, no, you're not answering the question amo

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:16

MO You hold on a second because by the way the total casualties of Russia may be higher than Ukraine. The military is getting absolutely lambasted by that ridiculous way

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:29

that's allowed though John that that's part of the that's part of the casualty that you want to see increase in number not not civilian at the end of the day whoever goes into combat you know they're signing up to the to the the fact that they could die that that's that's fine it's Russian soldiers changing soldiers passing away hold on Russian soldiers and Ukrainian soldiers passing away as part of that is when yes part of war

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:55

yeah but more or less unless your country doesn't believe what you're doing is nice regard so the

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:03

American talking point that's an American talking point.

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:06

John Don't you think it for medica didn't send him

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:11

by the way by the way this woman is on every single night and if I had to bet

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:18

Come on I got the

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:22

John John. billion dollars ladies

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:26

come after me John my kids Americans have come after me. Come on.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:52:31

Wait wait let the lady speak mo let lady speak bro. Mo Mo well, we don't we don't play but we're gonna play a different game. We're gonna let lady speak that's the game we playing right now.

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:44

John, you say first let's say about China because I live in China 14 years. So you say about the Chinese totally bullshit but let's leave this one. Let's talk about Kanye. No,

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:58

no, no children can't go past that. What did I say? It's bullshit.

Unknown Speaker: 2:53:03

Yeah, Chinese people love the government they love their car. They don't have I lived there 14 years. Yeah, so afraid. No, they don't afraid they don't have democracy.

Unknown Speaker: 2:53:17

Listen, I've been in Beijing Shanghai Guangzhou

Unknown Speaker: 2:53:23

for two years so the holy day is different you know?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:53:27

She said to go for holiday

Miss Will you please let them finish minutes? Please mute your mic.

Unknown Speaker: 2:53:37

Yeah, you gotta know who you're talking to. I built and maintain factories for many multinational corporations including Dell computer across all of China. I was the big biggest exporter of goods throughout Asia for China so don't talk to me. I know the government extremely well. I knew President junk Zimin very well. I've been unclassified his old friend because how many times had been to junk on high so don't you fucking talk to me about that you live there? Okay, I know more have

Unknown Speaker: 2:54:09

been there Timo while account John.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:54:13

John. Jerry one second mo we got like that brief one second. Row. Just relax one second, please. You're here with John. That's some powerful shit out of that brief was second.

Jonathan Bing: 2:54:23

John. Yeah. Man once again, man. They don't realize who they have on stage man.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:54:29

Yo, y'all gotta put some real a it is an honor. It is an honor to be a John it's gonna be an honor to get that to get that cash app or that sale from you. It is an honor my brother

Unknown Speaker: 2:54:40

just plugged

Jonathan Bing: 2:54:42

it down. It was crazy. Somebody who

Jerry Malcolm: 2:54:46

can have Mo Mo Mo you know you just know you just have no clue. You just got to jump in every three seconds bro. I know. No more you know your plane has landed mo goodness like I don't mind you coming in but bro not ever before. seconds.

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:01

Yeah, he wants to talk more than just the entrepreneur man.

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:04

No problem. But yeah, you're pitting him against somebody that he could debate easily. So it has nothing

Jerry Malcolm: 2:55:11

to do with that the lady.

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:14

Oh, that was such a misogynistic thing

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:29

the only reason I interrupted is in her first sentence, she said, What you just said about China was bullshit because I live there. So that's the reason I interrupted

Jerry Malcolm: 2:55:41

somebody point somebody does not rock with most somebody, somebody

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:45

can come down. That's not Rive.

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:47

MO You know, my people and I could communicate with them every day. I didn't go because I'm work with. I make a big factory and I speak with the President. I speak with the normal people every day for 14 years. What I know how they respect government, and I know what

Unknown Speaker: 2:56:09

did you speak to?

Unknown Speaker: 2:56:10

I didn't research it didn't.

Unknown Speaker: 2:56:13

I'm sorry. I apologize.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:56:15

It sounds like no sound like she said she speak with the Pro. That's what I heard. But I'm not sure

Unknown Speaker: 2:56:22

what she speaks with.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:56:23

It's okay. It's okay. Yeah. So did you land your plane miss? Or did you want to take off another flight with giant

Unknown Speaker: 2:56:31

to say about Don't cry now? Because he say Russia cue menu. Kreiner. Children? Yes, maybe this is true. We don't know what's going on. Exactly. But what I think is if America didn't send $1 billion dollars, this one will finish for five days. And they will sign some contracts and everything will finish. And America sent $1 billion. And America also have very big fault that this child, this children's died. Thank you,

Jonathan Bing: 2:57:05

Moshe. That's bullshit. Putin has all the fault. Exactly. Yeah. But you guys got a child. Yeah, real quick. Before we do that, John. The Supreme Court nominations that's taking place today, guys, I mean, should history matter? Are your shirt I mean, what do you guys think about what's going on and nominee should have should history matter? At obviously she's qualified. But the Republicans are trying to put this stall tactic on they were able to get Trump's nominee a quicker, you know, right before a presidential election. So when What do

Unknown Speaker: 2:57:49

you mean? What do you mean? Should history matter? What part of history

Jonathan Bing: 2:57:54

black female. See that man?

Unknown Speaker: 2:57:57

Oh, come on. We're beyond that. By now. She's qualified. Fucking nominator.

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:03

Black soul on Sotomayor is no black. Boy, she's glad

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:15

you asked me that question. You asked me this question. So I'll answer. She's an incredible nominee. She's an incredible candidate. And she should absolutely be expeditiously angry.

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:29

And she will and I agree. She will

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:32

cry and she will be but she's

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:36

on my Kavanagh, then I can ask her if she kissed somebody aggressively in high school. I think they'll have the decorum, I think the decorum not to go back 30 years into what she did in high school. And I hope she's nominated. And I hope she's nominated expeditiously. I agree.

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:56

First of all, she's already nominated. Brian, this is a question of whether they can film her. Secondly, the Republicans. The Republicans are gearing up to basically accused her of being soft on child molesters. They are doing horrible things they're doing their job that is not their job. She is supremely qualified. Yeah, but they're not but that's not a real record. vendor for Christ sec. She was a public defender maybe you don't understand but in this country we need public defenders

Jerry Malcolm: 2:59:32

are your past issues with school teacher whatever it was as their past they bring it up.

Unknown Speaker: 2:59:36

Listen, they might really appalling about what's happening. Probably 5050. Black? No, I'm saying

Unknown Speaker: 2:59:49

Africa you need to stop. She needs to be buried like everybody else. And I already said I hope she goes through experts. viciously, but she needs to be better. We're not going to turn a blind eye because of the color of his skin or because she has a vagina. And that's what you know.

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:08

I am not sorry Brian, Brian Bryan. Bryan? Yes.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:00:23

Well let him Let him talk Stop jumping in.

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:25

Well, she needs to go through this. Of course she needs to go through the process. But I'm telling you right now,

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:32

Cavanaugh went through, and God forbid they do to her what they did to Cavanaugh, God forbid, she has a legitimate question about her record, ask it and answer period. And next question, your lawyer, and you know that acid answers move on, but we have an obligation to ask, and she has an obligation to answer. That's it. And she answers the question sufficiently that she should be nominated. I hope she is. Can't can't

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:02

argue with that. Argue with what first of all, Brian, I think she should be of course questioned, every Supreme Court nominee needs to be questioned on their record, and their political theories, etc. Okay, that is fair game. What I'm telling you right now is because if you look at what happened the last time she was up, she she squeaked through basically, this is a supremely qualified woman. I am not talking about Africa, if she's just a supremely qualified person. Forget woman forget African American, she's supremely qualified. And I'm telling you right now, it's going to be much closer than it should be. Maybe 5150, maybe 5242, something like that. And that's really sad to me.

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:41

But God, yeah, boy,

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:42

I just want to say something to watch.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:01:45

One second brother. Great, John.

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:47

This is a yes, no question. And I don't think it's going to be 5150. It may be whatever it is. Who cares? That's politics. She's going to be confirmed, not nominated. She's already nominee, she's going to be confirmed. She's the real deal. And if she keeps her cool and hangs in there is 00 question. She's going to be a

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:13

John and John. That's one thing, right? But we we just need to ask the same questions. We don't want to give anybody a pass. But that's

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:21

always the deal, no matter who you are on what you're doing that thing that you did, you know the question, but I also and again, this is hard because you know, politically, I'm not necessarily aligned. But you know, if you are a defender was

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:42

pedophiles. It doesn't

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:45

know if you're a defender, that is the jar, that is your job.

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:49

It's your job. I

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:50

don't care what it is. I didn't I didn't read those facts as it was a job. I didn't read those tweets said she was a lawyer. Those tweets that the senator put out wasn't about being it was about her sentencing. She was soft on pedophiles and her sentencing she was given them the minimum so let's not dance around the Feds had a

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:15

maximum recommendation hold on sentencing recommendation for sentencing It was not uncommon across a one

Jerry Malcolm: 3:03:25

second let the lead let lady land go ahead let let me

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:31

let the person that's coming in from the side talking about the tweets which are inappropriate to begin with. What should not be confirmed

Jerry Malcolm: 3:03:43

that you told the lady there was Go ahead Miss Go ahead mister was talking about the tweets grant the person to talk about the tweets glad I'm

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:50

asking why is it Why is he saying it's inappropriate? Why was the tweets inappropriate? Is it truth behind the tweets? Why is it inappropriate to post a record he was being shown it needs to be for the public to know if

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:09

during a hearing senators, the Senate should not be using social media to try to influence the public. So yeah, there you go. Okay, so here's my

Jerry Malcolm: 3:04:25

question for your black man. What's your name?

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:28

Priyanka or something?

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:30

Okay. Here's here's my question for you. Are you saying she shouldn't be confirmed?

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:37

I'm saying if she was soft on pedophiles, I want to know

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:42

that we want

Jerry Malcolm: 3:04:45

one second Duke dude.

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:49

She says about that. That's what I'm saying. And she was sawed off pedophiles giving them the minimum giving them the minimum No, she should not be killed. and his tweet was saying that she was like, kinda like cover for them and they shouldn't be looked at as, as as as as hardship and all this other crap. May I respond,

Jonathan Bing: 3:05:13

Ma'am? Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, hold on one second guys want to talk to Leo just talking. That's

Jerry Malcolm: 3:05:21

a guy he said.

Jonathan Bing: 3:05:24

Okay, it's a man. Yeah, man. Okay, so check this out, sir. You know, you fall for the broad Republican propaganda. And what second Sir, let me talk and then I'm gonna toss it back to you guys. And Jerry. I think what you probably couldn't have done and a lot of people have not recognized what the Republicans do so successfully. Okay. And American people fall for it all the time. They go, sleepy Joe. pedophile nominee, they give you a title, a very unflattering title. And they said over and over again to get it into the American American public psyche. That's their playbook they do it when everyone wants a one second. They did they do it? They do it successfully. Wherever. Whenever they're in a campaign. Cookie Hillary Okay. Sleepy Joe all Abby campaign. Oh, leeches Obama. No, no, no, no, but the damage they don't do that. And that's something that we probably need to start doing I can I talk? Okay, because what are you talking about? That was the biggest I didn't call him no name. did not call him brought they brought up brought up now they went through his yearbook. Once again, what was the name? What was the name that they gave Kevin? Google and find it

Jerry Malcolm: 3:07:11

I got one second. Why everybody everybody meeting Mike. Every minute. I got too many. I got four people going at one time. That's not gonna sound good and are debating these podcasts.

Jonathan Bing: 3:07:20

Listen to me. They did not that was the app that he was. He was accused of doing okay. And they didn't accuse him of it. Someone else did. Alright. And guess what? He lost his fucking cool up there. And then the way he acted, he shouldn't have been nominated. Because he lost his cool. It shows that he has some issues. He had some problems. Up No, one second. So the fact that the fact that the Republican has successfully done that to everyone matter of fact, they do it to each other in the primaries. Now that does sign me. Everyone. Okay. I disagree. Do you guys

Jerry Malcolm: 3:08:04

hear once I, once I do do one second, I'm gonna say some really nice. I love that everybody's debating. But Jonathan may not realize it because he's talking. So I don't know if he could hear it while he's talking. But it's like four people talking while he's talking. And that's a bad news experience. I'm asking nicely. I don't wanna have to put a mandate out and pull the snipers out. You know, but please stop doing that. Everybody. When one person is talking? It's okay for another person jumping in debate. Okay. Do you want to say something to Jonathan? Do we I just

Unknown Speaker: 3:08:31

want to say this to Jonathan when he talks about Eastery. Allah is historical. I want to say this. I was in this country when Obama nominated Justice Sotomayor. He said on the podium that this is the first woman of color to sit on the Supreme Court. So who was nominated as a woman of color, then what makes these current nomination is true? Because she's also a woman of color. That's what I was

Jonathan Bing: 3:08:56

Hispanic, okay.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:08:58

He's talking to Jonathan. He's talking to Jonathan, what is wrong with Shaw? He's talking to Jonathan guys

Jonathan Bing: 3:09:03

like I wanted to make it quick. That's the first African American go.

Unknown Speaker: 3:09:08

Okay, so the second thing I want to say is, oh, the doctrine about calling somebody name is just Trump doctrine. And when you said calling him rep, this is what he did. Well, what he called or Hillary was crooked. That was what she did also. So if you accept the crooked as a name, you should accept the rapist as an alumna.

Jonathan Bing: 3:09:26

Okay, once again, guys, and I'll say make this real quick. Okay, that was long before Trump. Okay. We need to label Obama an elitist. Alright. And then they also labeled him as a community activist. Okay, that's all from their playbook, okay. They try to label something on you. And people don't do their research. They take that and run away. They know that's what they people run with. And it causes people. I unfortunately, people that are not in the middle class that are working class people. It causes them to vote against their own ends. because it gives them something to dislike about a person. And those those nicknames do go a long way.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:10:07

They do go a long way

Unknown Speaker: 3:10:09

to PRK. God, great. Yeah, I just want to say Pianka. You know, I understand your concern about Listen, I want to know if it's being real soft on pedophiles with the case was, she was a judge. She was she did since pedophiles and right there is a federal, it's like a recommendation a maximum. But across the country, most of the judges that fell in line she sentenced her sentencing was in line with every other district. There was nothing abnormal about it. But yeah, I saw that news too. And of course, it would concern you, but you just keep looking. And you realize, hey, if I saw something like that, that seemed out of the ordinary. I'm with you on that. But this is all judges and it's because sentencing around the country has changed. It doesn't go by federal maximum. Thank God for the cannabis space, right. Why is everybody crazy?

Jerry Malcolm: 3:10:59

I'm only saying Right? Because you got your point on us about to kind of like, go around ring around the Rosies. But But appreciate you for that.

Unknown Speaker: 3:11:05

This is James, I want to challenge Jonathan.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:11:09

Do you want to chuck a are you about to make a left you want to make a left turn Archie?

Unknown Speaker: 3:11:14

On topic because

Jerry Malcolm: 3:11:16

I get a car with a blinker on but you make a left turn. You make a left turn. Right now, bro. How do you think how do you think I knew that? There you go. And you go ahead. Go ahead and ask Jonathan. No, go ahead. No, no, no, listen, no, no. Listen, you said you're gonna challenge Jonathan. So everybody, please mute their mic and let Jonathan accept the challenge. Go ahead, bro.

Unknown Speaker: 3:11:41

So my challenge to Jonathan is his blanket statement about the Republican playbook. Right? I want to prove to you how short minded and history we are. Let's go back to Clarence Thomas, who was a black Brit, who's you know who conservative? Joe Biden was totally against? Clarence Thomas. And what did they bring up? They went in his past. So everybody on this stage, they went in his past. And what did they come up? They found, uh, Anita Hill, another African American woman. I don't want to go to say if he was wrong or right, right. It was nimitta pubic hair. I was in high school.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:12:21

They pay bro. What's your challenge? What's your challenge?

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:24

So my challenge to Jonathan is his blanketed statement talking about this the Republican playbook. Democrats do this all the time. They have the same kind of playbook. And they do this. They do this with every

Jerry Malcolm: 3:12:40

now said they're like they're like three times. Okay, so do me if I'm gonna help you all know, because you burn a lot of calories. So your challenge is Jonathan, my challenge is this publican

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:50

playbook is

Jonathan Bing: 3:12:52

absolutely wrong on that brown brown,

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:54

but the Democrats do the same thing. Okay,

Jonathan Bing: 3:12:57

I let you land your plane. All right. This is what I think of your challenge. is trash. I throw it away balled up. Because first and foremost, I didn't say that was Republican playbook. Okay. That's both parties playbook. What you just mentioned going in and holding them accountable for their past. Okay. I didn't speak about that. What I was I was very specific. And what I said, and I think a lot of people here can tell you what I said, is the Republican playbook. What was that Jerry to do? What Jerry, and you find it very effective. What did you say?

Jerry Malcolm: 3:13:32

I'm saying that last part again?

Jonathan Bing: 3:13:34

What did I say the Republicans do very effectively. Republicans do very effectively. Pivot. They give out they give nicknames. Okay.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:13:45

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, they nickname crooked Hillary, my bad.

Jonathan Bing: 3:13:49

That's that's exactly what I said. So usually, I want to challenge Jonathan and I didn't he say anything about anything? He said, bro. So you know, both parties are not the Republican. So So I say to Republicans give out names. Okay. And as you watch these people, one second, one second brother that they call your name, they get called. Matter of fact.

Unknown Speaker: 3:14:21

Weapons of Mass Destruction. So what's the

Jerry Malcolm: 3:14:25

nickname? What's the nickname? What's the nickname Bro?

Unknown Speaker: 3:14:33

Bro bro, bro, bro.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:14:35

Bro. You hold on for a second. The guy who said Bush like what was the nickname that he gave? Cuz I can't remember what was it? Oh, cricket moments. No. This is the But Jonathan was my nicknames. I thought he I thought he's giving us I don't know. Maybe

Unknown Speaker: 3:14:54

Bush ly people die. Look it up.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:14:57

Oh, That sounds like a nickname. There a sound passionate about that I'm gonna stay out of his way. I know.

Jonathan Bing: 3:15:10

He sound passion. Oh, yo, they haven't been too bright today. I haven't too bright. i i Back to you, Jerry man out and not. Cialis was trash.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:15:23

Everybody listen, I want to remind you guys once again first I want to say thank you to these moderators, especially the ones that joined the conversation. I can't keep thanking all y'all that don't join the conversation. But I want to thank the ones that joined the conversation. And, and I want to thank whatever that guy's name was. I want to thank you, bro. And I think all the other people that joined the conversation also. And I want to thank the most important people on this stage right now. And in the audience, the ones that do not have the green badge, y'all are the most important ones to not get confused. Yellow, more important. It's about 15 people got the badge and about almost 700 Y'all that don't. That means y'all are more important. So if you haven't done so already, make sure you take a look at tap tap right there where it says debate the news that is our podcast, it is debate the news.com you can go there check it out. It's really cool. Pretty dope. Like I said once again, we have some incredible episodes from a week ago, two weeks ago, three weeks ago. Matter of fact, we got our first episode when we first started I guarantee there's at least 500 people in here that has not heard our first episodes of the first week if you haven't done so already. Make sure you go there download the episodes and make sure y'all give us a five star review because we deserve it you know what we need a five star to be a review because you're a part of it. And I know you know that five star I know you know you a five star

Jonathan Bing: 3:16:41

absolutely Hey Jay before you go what happened to Kylie she used to hang around to the very end what happened to Kylie

Jerry Malcolm: 3:16:48

y'all ran her off y'all y'all y'all scared her off? What happened to Kylie y'all scared her off like like like like y'all scared off like how we how we anti vaxxers Say some to the doctors they run off like we did some wrong cuz we don't agree that's how y'all scared her off

you know what though? I respect I respect that and Catherine your app you're absolutely right. Because I am saying the same oh shit that means I'm not being I'm not capping I'm not remix it I'm saying the same shit. The problem is, you ain't desert the

Jonathan Bing: 3:17:29

kill, but we want golly man. Kylie, we work. We work on the app, make sure y'all dresses Kylie from now.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:17:40

And if any y'all see our brother Antonio, let you know pinging me in tomorrow because we want to have a conversation Antonio.

Jonathan Bing: 3:17:49

Antonio

Jerry Malcolm: 3:17:52

don't do that. Don't say that Miss. Now because we cannot say what he's saying is fraud just because he believes in aliens. The true story. We went into a room the other day, I'm not exaggerating, is Antonio's room. Three people. I'm not exaggerating. One, two, when I say three people, I'm not exaggerating. He was three people in here. We went in there. Got him like over 100 And oh my god, he was like, he was in his element. And you know what? Everybody in that audience that the chat was unbelievable. They were loving Antonio. loving him. So he's gonna fan base on here. You're gonna look up enough 200 people in his room.

Unknown Speaker: 3:18:27

Hey, Jerry. Great. Alien believers and anti vaxxers.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:18:32

Oh, yeah. Hey, John. I don't know if any anti vaxxers was in there, though.

Jonathan Bing: 3:18:37

I don't. Because I was. It was it was come on Jerry. Stop.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:18:41

No, no, I like my new name. That you know what? I'm vaccine hesitant. No, no, no, I take that back. No, I'm vaccine. I'm not a skeptic. I'm still pissed off. John. John, I was to dim votes away from making that damn dirty. When you call it the dirty duck. What do you call it? Again, the

Unknown Speaker: 3:19:01

confirmation doesn't know.

Unknown Speaker: 3:19:06

Me make sure that you weren't on the list.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:19:08

I was pissed when I heard I was two votes away.

Unknown Speaker: 3:19:14

Please, you forget when you're talking about this debate, the news podcast to inform them when they're going to sign up for this make sure they sign up for it on all of the platforms, Spotify, Apple, podcast, Google, Google, all of them and make sure you subscribe on all of the platforms because I'm getting all types of notifications even on Amazon music. As soon as a podcast is released, it notifies me and I'm so excited about that. So don't just sign up on all and make sure you give a rating.

Jonathan Bing: 3:19:53

Absolutely. I can't agree more man. As soon as it's done man Tiffany y CEO there she uploads these things and get up and running right fast for you guys to fill you guys guys and Julie man so thank you for that Tiffany YCL appreciate it.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:20:07

So some I got to meet them like they got a hot mic. We got some I got a hot mic mute your mic whoever it is. But once again everybody I want to thank y'all for coming out to debate the news we appreciate y'all make sure you follow Mr. Jonathan Bing put the bell on for so you get notified make sure you follow me Jerry Malcolm and make sure you follow John Legend some some cool about John Legere. Even though you know we don't agree with like the leader room. Let me see because we left the room say some crazy. Oh shit. Yeah, it makes it's gonna

Jonathan Bing: 3:20:35

be nice. Yeah, make sure y'all

Jerry Malcolm: 3:20:39

make sure y'all follow geology. Because you know what? When I first met John, I was like, this dude is on some bullshit. This he's a see what he's freaking like, how did he become a CEO? What all the bullshit. He talked about this app about the vaccine. But then I started listening to him. And I said, I'm not gonna judge him. Just because he's confused. He's lost. You know? It's, it's the media. It's the it's the you know what I'm saying? So I you know, put some respect on his name. Give him a pass. Do not disrespect, John, just because he's confused. I will not stand for that. I will not stand for that.

Unknown Speaker: 3:21:11

Jonathan Bing. What do you think about what he just said?

Jonathan Bing: 3:21:15

John? Oh, man, I respect the hell out of you. Because you and I are lockstep both for the most part man me when I think about what Jerry said. That's why it's a mole crap.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:21:29

Okay, where am I anti? Where am I anti vaxxers anti vaxxers unite on three anti vaxxers say I'm an anti Vax. 1233

anti vaxxers I want. I want all my anti vaxxers On three to put your hands up in the air. Tap your mic, tap it my look, I am here with y'all. We stand together as one. We can pull through this. We can defeat these nominees these pro vaxxers

Jonathan Bing: 3:22:03

is the virus

Unknown Speaker: 3:22:04

you got? You got three people that said Yeah, I know. You're not with us anymore.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:22:15

I know that Jonathan, this room in this room has not pulled back. I mean, not antivax

Jonathan Bing: 3:22:21

and I will tell you something you say counter that you count of 3123 Did you see the other three had done a word

Jerry Malcolm: 3:22:31

to me. Oh, wait anti vaxxers I guess I don't get Jonathan you use everybody give Jonathan around applause guess what he did? He is single handedly. Jonathan is single handedly with help of Dr. Catherine and would help with terror to run off and scare away all our anti battle. Yeah,

Jonathan Bing: 3:22:50

I got Mike. I got all of my career up here. I see a whole bunch of anti vaxxers up here man. Mica and all of them and all they're all up there. All you're sitting there quiet because they scare you. They

Jerry Malcolm: 3:23:03

scared me. I gave John Shook the room. They are scared. Yeah, okay. Okay, but anybody? I'm not anybody. I won't say anyway. Thank you, Mr. John Leger. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, diamond. Thank you. CB Angel credit. Daphne. Mr. Jonathan Bing. If I missed anybody too bad. Let's see Mary Louise. Everybody else in this room appreciate all your doctor Catherine our rock would you call Dr. Cat Do you don't know. I actually like you don't get mad at me because I'm a doctor Catherine was in another room. That wasn't called debate the news? I will talk completely different. But since we intubate the news, that's how it goes. Okay. Dr. Catherine? Yeah,

Unknown Speaker: 3:23:42

we can't find it in your room, Jerry. Absolutely.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:23:45

I know. But who's in a different room? Dr. Catherine, the conversation got a little bit like this when you're used to before, okay, but when you debate the news, we break the news and it goes a little different. So thank you, Dr. Catherine. Thank you, everybody. And also time has come for us to land this vessel. Jonathan Bing and myself. We're going to be out. I'm going to do a hard landing doctor. I'm not Doctor Yeah, no, but he a doctor. Is there. Is there anything you want to say before I land Dr. Bing

Jonathan Bing: 3:24:15

now I'm not a doctor man. I can't claim that but when I

Jerry Malcolm: 3:24:18

want a medical doctor I'm talking about like

Jonathan Bing: 3:24:21

grief. I want any confusion going on here. So absolutely, guys, hey, we are excited to have that podcast out was excited to bring support we're excited to have your support More importantly guys, please click on the link man follow the podcast guys follow the pipe. It's a product of you. It is it truly is guys. And it brings more and more people in because people are going to that site they see our times they're coming in to participate slowly but surely. I'm gonna have a big big big, I guess, group of people in here debating the news and calling each other out we're gonna have some crazies that's gonna come on here and You know, and they're going to want us to beat the news and they're gonna probably make our our current crazies look civilized. So look forward to it. But guys remember it doesn't happen without you being here and it doesn't certainly doesn't happen without you guys following the podcast. So thank you and I appreciate it. Thanks to grant thanks to John Luke gear because John comes in here and he breaks the smoke and he comes he bails me out and he gets mad and he quits the fucking app. You know, he left he left he left when he comes back, so I appreciate it.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:25:30

So thank you everybody once again and we will see y'all tomorrow. Any anything about a time are we good right now John, we get for now. Okay, okay, everybody, we will see y'all tomorrow three to 6pm Pacific Standard Time six to 9pm Eastern time. That's weekdays meaning Monday through Friday. So we appreciate everybody you guys all have a good night appreciate you. I love most of you now I love all y'all know but I love I love everybody's app I can I can lose like I love you too. Damn Wait, wait, wait,

Jonathan Bing: 3:26:10

don't love John. Right? You get the $5,000 from John that's gonna put a dent in his account.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:26:17

Hey, John, did you hear us I love everybody including you to John Legere even you guys to be talking about mess in the back chat. I look at it and I'd be like, I love this person. Oh, Jerry stew. I love you for that. Cherries. Idiot. Oh, I love you today. Thank you. Great day you go. appreciate y'all. So we're gonna do a hard landing. I just got air traffic control told me I can go right now. So we're next up everybody put your seats in upright position, put your iPads away. Put your T Mobile Device away. And I will see everybody tomorrow we're going to land and t minus five seconds. T minus three seconds T minus