🇷🇺 Russia Bombs Child Shelter 💰 US Votes To Cut Trade w/🇷🇺 Russia and 🚫 Belarus with with Jerry Malcolm, Grant Cardone, and Jonathan Bing

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debate the news in case you didn't know it's about to go down. Once again I want to thank everybody for joining us on this beautiful, thriving Thursday. Welcome to debate the news all my beautiful friends and families in the building. We got something interesting going on today, y'all. But before we get started, I got 28 shares. I need that to be up to 128 Or I'm just going to stop talking and just pause everything I need that 30 to get up to 100 a minimum of 100 so we can get this show started. All you done in the audience. While it's still early. I'm going to ask you to raise your hands so you can come stand next to me and Mr. Johnson be in the VIP. We're going to be standing room only today. It's gonna get crowded you like that job? That was really it's gonna get crowded today. So yeah, we don't get it late. We got a lot of interesting things going on. Russia's doing some crazy things that looks like you know, Biden said it the other day. It looks like war crimes. So we're going to talk about it. We got something interesting going on with this COVID a new variant. These these states and countries is multiplying by the hour. So It's gonna be a very interesting day. So hello to all my wonderful moderators. I'm about to moderate a few of you more in a second. And remember, we just have one rule. Don't moderate anybody. Mr. Jonathan Bing, you are in the building. How are you doing my brother?

Jonathan Bing 5:14

th. St. Patty's day guys: 2022

Jerry Malcolm 7:19

Hey, did you see that article I sent you. I think I sent you as far as COVID gold as you know, New Jersey cases are spiking right now. To be that new variant? Mr. being missed. Okay. He's talking right now.

Jonathan Bing 7:34

Yeah, I was talking to Jerry don't worry about New Jersey worried about California.

Jerry Malcolm 7:41

Well, you know, alright, okay. Our case is all

Jonathan Bing 7:47

about my guy.

Jerry Malcolm 7:49

We're always spiking so like a week. Sure. Yeah, we're always but you know what? You're gonna be okay. Because the entire jersey is vast. So y'all gonna be okay. So how's my building doing today? How you doing angels in the building? I got CB Davi in the building. I got this is diamond. I got Mariana, Ricky storm. How y'all doing? How you beautiful mods doing? What do y'all think about what's going on with Russia? I mean, what's up with this bombing a child shelter, it was a hospital the other day. Now it's a child shelter. You know, they said, I don't know if you guys heard this. But they said they're using some of their old equipment. And it's gonna be a whole lot more casualties on places they're not expected to be because they're not using what's going on with that. Anybody know Jonathan, why do you use the old equipment? They're literally saying

Jonathan Bing 8:37

that we don't know why they use an old equipment. We don't know if that's all they have. Or if they're saving their their new equipment for later on for something more drastic possibly war with us? Or, you know, we don't know why they're using the old equipment. Jerry. They definitely have the smartwatch smart, but I guess the technology is out there. So I guess he whether he figured he didn't need the new equipment. But right now, everyone's scratching their head because they want to know, why is he using the old equipment? Because right now they look like they look like a shit show there. Man, a 40 mile convoy just strolling along, man, if we would have wiped that goddamn cowboy out, you know, to us, we would have wiped it out. But you know that? I mean, I'm not even worried about equipment and the equipment. They take? No, I mean, their strategy seems to be a little off. That's if I was Putin that would worry me, man.

Jerry Malcolm 9:39

You got a good point, though. You what you said a second ago. You said it may be where they feel they don't need it. Jonathan, like hey, like, this is not. Let's just throw a little junk over there. We're gonna keep our other stuff nice and oiled on standby. That's possible. You know, who knows? That could be a strategy. What do y'all think? Is there anybody in the audience on stage that thinks there's a strategy behind him uses old equipment, or do you think that is all equipment is just kind of just what he's rocking with, to a certain extent not counting those missiles? Anybody got a point or opinion on that?

Unknown Speaker: 10:15

Yeah, Jerry, you know, I'm just I'm not feeling right about all this. You know, a lot of times when we see these things going on, like, why would he uses old equipment? Why would that even come out of his mouth because that doesn't project strength, there has to be a reason or a strategy behind it. I'm also curious as far as why someone would on purpose or accidentally bomb a Children's Shelter and just happen to have the media cover it and have it right away breaking because if it's old equipment and that far off, that doesn't show me a really good strategy from an intelligent leader. So is he kind of playing hooky here and just, you know, trying to throw us off the scent? Or is he really that bad? So I am trying to figure it out. You know, when you have a gut feeling about a relationship or something, you know, that's not feeling right. Some of this just doesn't feel right to me. And I think that what we're seeing might not be the full story. So I'd like to know a little bit more and what other people think, too. That's my thought at least,

Jerry Malcolm: 11:12

I agree with you. But you know what that guy being that former KGB and all the moves he'd been making all through his whole reign. I just don't think it's it's anything but some type of strategy. Like, like, we got to get rid of this. I noticed sounds crazy. But somebody's mute your mic. He got all this stuff parked his like, he probably feels like let's break them down with Think about this for a second storm. What if he really does have some really high end equipment that he didn't put in the Conway, but it's on standby. But the equipment he sent so far are really ruffled him and broke them down a little bit. And it's still a good battle. What's going to happen when he does come in with other stuff storm, there's really gonna be a problem. So if you look at it in that aspect, it's a good strategy, because he knows the world is looking. So he's not gonna go out there. Think about a storm because the world may be saying, Oh, he's kind of weak, and they might slip if they think that I think it's a strategy storm.

Unknown Speaker: 12:07

Well, here's what I also think based on that, too, and I think you bring up a great point, Jerry, I don't see any human being rational or irrational that thinks to hit a Children's Shelter is a good idea. So I'm just trying to figure out why they're published. I understand what they're publicizing it. What I'm not understanding is how could be the that inaccurate on something where that's going to touch anybody's heart. To me it feels like the media is playing this up. How many do we have as far as survivors and Jonathan I'd love to get your take on this because I haven't heard of any casualties yet from that. So it just makes me wonder why there's a big children's painted on it. It happens to accidentally quote get hit, yet we've had no casualties from it. So what are the numbers?

Jerry Malcolm: 12:49

Well, before you go to go to Jonathan, let me do this. Everybody on the stage in the audience, I want to know what you think so I'm going to open up chat right now I'm going to open in t minus five seconds. And I want to see what you guys think about that. Is there anybody else want to comment? I don't know if you want to jump in on that mister being Mr. Jonathan Bing

Jonathan Bing: 13:08

Yeah, I England jumping on that. Storm once again. You guys look for the conspiracy. There are casualties. What they're doing right now is their brain day they dig dig into the rubble, and they're finding survivors. That's what they're looking for. They're not looking for casualties. They're looking for survivors right now. So the casualties are coming in. Definitely lead there.

Unknown Speaker: 13:30

So getting a birthday present, Jonathan, since it's my birthday today, how many casualties how many deaths? What are the death reports? What are the casualty reports what are the numbers that we don't know? Or what are the numbers so so

Jonathan Bing: 13:39

so so here's the storm so here's the difference. The anti vaxxers can make up information I gotta wait for the real information. So I can just give you something that I don't have now play certain there's like 40 people in this audience that can give you some fake numbers and they will do they will do it like with ease so if you want to reach out to a hobby for you people get up here and they will tell you anything you want to hear

Jerry Malcolm: 14:02

Happy Birthday Mr. Storm Happy birthday to you my brother Absolutely. Um I don't know if that's what he's saying. Exactly. It I'm kind of reading it like he's not really just going conspiracy especially the part when he said about the media talking about that. I think storm you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he tried to go in the sympathy type of way like oh, look was happening to us. Look how harsh there are you kind of go in that direction a little bit to storm

Unknown Speaker: 14:30

us antivaxxers Jerry have to stick together because that's exactly what I was going to. I don't go through the conspiracy stuff is fine. What's you know, even deeper than that, and what's truth and not I honestly don't know what the count is. However, if you know they're focusing on that one thing when everything else is going on. I want to know the full details. If I want to get a full picture. I can't just paint a brush over on a tree and try and step back and look at the whole picture. I want to know what's accurately being reported. I want to know why it was being reported in it. just happened yesterday. But if I'm getting numbers that aren't matching up to something so devastating, it just seems sensationalized to me. That's why I was getting

Jonathan Bing: 15:07

started. Exactly conspiracy. And that's once again, generally you miss reading again. But what I will say is this time as they casually start being reported, and they will, unfortunately they will. Okay. Because they decimated that build in the middle of that building with bombs. So there's there's a ton of casualties. So you will get your blood numbers and do time my friend

Jerry Malcolm: 15:33

a storm. Did I miss read you? Because Jonathan just said I misread you did I miss read your story?

Unknown Speaker: 15:38

No, Jonathan has a consistent habit of Miss reading me and you, I think and some other people. So you're right on point, I would love to say you

Jonathan Bing: 15:45

said that. You just said that this for an event that big. And for them not to have casualties? Makes you wonder correct. And you want numbers because you should be able to get numbers out of that correct. That's what you said, right? Here's

Unknown Speaker: 15:59

what I know. What I know is you can see, right and eight and a half by 11. And they focus in on a three by five. No, I have no doubt it hit there. I have no doubt it's not fake. I have a real idea that it's real. However, I'm trying to figure out information as I go. I'm not trying to throw a conspiracy out there. I'm trying to figure out under what we're seeing. Because there's always another story that we're not seeing. And that's not a conspiracy Jonathan's that's just true. Oh, I never see it show us what they want us to see. Now what we need to know that's the difference.

Jonathan Bing: 16:34

Says Tom did this independent reporting going on, bro. You know, there's people there's reporters all crawling all over Ukraine right now dying, dying, trying to get the you know, die. God bless them. They're trying to get a story, man. Because if I if I had to die for my vocation, I will get out of that damn vocation. So you know, storm the numbers will come and you're saying just because you don't have the numbers okay. And I will tell you something, you know, when when the foreigners come in and they talk about Americans and how Americans don't understand how Americans think this way and and that this year who they're talking about star because you're thinking that God dammit, here I am sitting here cooling out and my motherfucking nice as house when motherfucking nice ash stock covered. And my nice car and a girl out there. You know, I say with my gas and everything else. I need these goddamn numbers, while they're over there trying to figure out how to save lives and dig people out the rubble and you're like, now give me the numbers. If you guys don't give me the numbers, you don't get my sympathy, essentially, is what you're saying? Because there's two sides to this if I don't get it.

Unknown Speaker: 17:37

No, I guess and Jonathan, here's what I have to ask you. When is there independent reporting that's not on one side or another? I think you're completely miss reading because journalists are paid to sensationalized stories. That is always been the case. There's always been journalism that doesn't report accurate facts. And if you look on the news, especially in the United States, you see it all over the place. So let's be clear about one thing. If you're telling me that there is a down the middle independent reporter out there, and you're telling me that reporters are dying all over the place, I have heard of one confirmed kill. And you know what, for you to say that there's a bunch of them crawling around there dying just to try and get the story. I don't believe you you just lost a complete amount of credibility with me. There's not an independent reporter down the middle side or another telling you a narrative that they want to say and paint and that's what I'm trying to get to the bottom

Jonathan Bing: 18:27

storm to one reporter died there was a bombing was three about three reporters in the car to die one was a fox, fox confirmed to a cameraman. What are you talking about storm? And that's what I'm saying. You're perusing through this? And you know, and I'm quite certainly that people. People on the stage. Have you guys heard about multiple reporters dying down there? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So storm when you say that and say I lost credibility. I am so happy that I've lost that kind of credibility with you. Because the kind of shit you play now just isn't real. Are you?

Unknown Speaker: 18:59

Do reporters report facts? Yes or no.

Jonathan Bing: 19:02

You reporters report as reporters report facts. Now. Guess what story? Well, one second one second. Can you guess what? Because I said something and you cut me off half thought. Okay. So yeah, because of what facts now auto facts are slanted? Yes or no? Yeah, they're slanted. Okay. And that's what storm that's why we are in here now debating the news.

Unknown Speaker: 19:26

And that's why we're here. And so you just answered my point. And I rest my case, there's always going to be a slant on everything that comes out. And there's always going to be three sides to a story. I'm just no it's not what's going on. Because we can look at things we can hear things and we can see things for what they are and not what people want us to see that they are. So am I a conspiracy theories? Mailee? Maybe not, I don't know. But the fact is, you're going to get your news from a source. I could get the exact same from another source and it could tell a completely different story. If you can concede on that point. We can rest The mic and open it up. But if you can't, I just feel sorry, because you lost the credibility with the audience. I ran.

Jonathan Bing: 20:06

Storm. were debating the news. Okay, we wouldn't be debating news. Okay, if I didn't think that was the case. So you know, for you to come in and just take the platform that we have and explain the platform that we have to say, if you don't believe me a platform, you know, you got to concede that you believe in your platform. Come on Star. I get it, man. They sound good. But the point you made was already made when we open this goddamn room. Let's go.

Unknown Speaker: 20:31

Well, I guess the other point of the credibility point to that Jonathan is the media has lost credibility with a lot of people because of what they continue to report, which is a slanted factory slanted story. And we don't even know for sure what you're saying we can provide sympathy for and drum that up. Yeah, we had a children shelter bombed, how many poverty stricken children are dying everyday because they're not getting fed? How many people in the US we could go down the list, but that's not getting any attention? What's getting attention? And

Jonathan Bing: 21:02

oh, man, I love you. Again, man.

Unknown Speaker: 21:05

Hang on, hang on, Jonathan. I didn't interrupt you. I was trying to be you know, at least cordial to listen to you and hear out your point with them interrupting you. We're making this guy out. And I am not a sympathizer. But we're making this guy out to accidentally say that he bombed it or on purpose. You know what, that's the one story. There's all kinds of stuff going on in the cities over there. We don't know the real story unless we're reporting over there. And we see it with our own eyes, because they're always going to tell a different story. And they're always going to tug at the heartstrings, to try and get our deepest sympathy for what's going on. And we're focused on the one thing when 50,000 Other things are going on that they're distracting us with. So but I would just say be careful as far as where you get your sources from, make sure they're credible. If you stand on your platform, and you believe it, stand on with your own two feet. But frankly, I'm cynical of the stuff that I've been continually to get fed over the last few years from media sources that are not credible, because they lose credibility when they lie. And they do it every

Grant Cardone: 22:00

day. Storm, what kind of

Jonathan Bing: 22:03

hold on. So I'm thinking that because I was so touching, that was so touching, because you pivot it all because you you pivot it all over the goddamn place. We're talking about Ukraine, you start bringing in starving kids all over the world. You should try to make your point because you fucking lost on Ukraine. But my man has just jumped in. Go ahead to make sure

Grant Cardone: 22:20

no, I mean, I was just curious storm. This is Burke speaking. I mean, what what kind of story would you be okay with to hear that anybody's bombing children?

Unknown Speaker: 22:28

I mean, I don't understand. It seems like you're sort of it was, I'm not okay with any story. But that's the thing. How many stories out there are in that same realm? Or in that same line of thinking that we're not hearing about the problem? And we're hearing about one? Let's hear about them all. Let's get some coverage out there. But what I have to wonder for the source of the credibility

Jerry Malcolm: 22:53

CB, you got my camera, you got to mute your mic. CB, why are you talking wrong?

Unknown Speaker: 22:56

No. Something burning or pressing the DI N. I'm not saying it's not real. My heart goes out to them. If that, you know, happens, however, I don't want to know the numbers based on what I'm thinking as far as Oh, my gosh, I told you there was no casualties. That's not why I want to know the numbers. I curiously, genuinely don't want to know, because I haven't kept up with the story. That is not that's a human thing, right? We care about people when they get hurt, or there's casualties or children are involved. And we don't

Jerry Malcolm: 23:26

store let me help you along a little bit. You correct me because I feel there's there's something else in there. And you're not able to really express it the way you're intending to. And you could tell me if I'm off. If and I believe that the hospital did get bombed. I believe that and I think you believe it too. But I think what you're saying also is there's a lot of stuff that can be talked about, but there's certain things as being really highlighted. And since Zelinsky, would love for the US to send over some fighter jets and things like that. The argument for that case will be a whole lot stronger. It we can talk about hospitals being bombed, churches being bombed, and things that would fit under war crimes type of things, and you will get more of a sympathy all across the world. We know there's casualties and war that's going to happen. So I think you're kind of coming with that undertone a little bit. Storm is like, you know, let's make the rest of the world see what's really going on is a lot worse than they probably know. And so we're gonna highlight something like the hospital being bombed. Whether that's true or not. That's kind of where you're going with that storm.

Unknown Speaker: 24:39

Yeah, I just hate to say this because the Lensky made the congressional address yesterday, and very rarely have we ever seen our US government stand in unanimous applause and that tugs at everybody's heartstrings when they see a hospital being bombed when they see children involved, and what better plugged to ask for help and timing when that happens. Now I'm going to make my move and address Congress all of a sudden for this, I just I don't feel right about it. I feel like it's been politicized. And I feel like there's something else that maybe we need to know about. And yes, you're exactly right. Jerry once again, US anti vaxxers need to stick together because you hit it right on the head.

Jerry Malcolm: 25:13

Well, we're no, we're no, we're just debating the news. But I got a question for the stage. I got a question for the stage. What I just said to Mr. Storm, is there anybody to get Griese? Or can kind of see the logic and what I just said, If not, that's fine, too. Is anybody can see the logic of what I just said.

Unknown Speaker: 25:35

Absolutely. This

Jerry Malcolm: 25:37

the guy, the guy, that was a question, if you could see the logic. So the guy said, Absolutely. What is your name? Sir? Kevin? What he would speak on it. Kevin, what do you think about what storm is saying? What's your I mean,

Unknown Speaker: 25:50

we know we've been getting the news has been lying to us. And you know, what? $800 million? I mean, $800 million. And we don't we don't we we've only getting secondhand information. The news has been reporting and lying to us this whole entire time, the cat, but

Jerry Malcolm: 26:14

Kevin, you got to be careful. You gotta be careful. We have

Jonathan Bing: 26:18

intelligence. We don't have intelligence over here. You know, saying that we don't have not saying everything's

Unknown Speaker: 26:23

not happening. But no,

Jerry Malcolm: 26:25

Kevin, Kevin. Kevin, once again, Kevin? What Kevin Just one second, when you say, see, I'm building with storm, but I don't want it to imply that I'm agreeing with they're just lying about everything that's kind of like a bowl claim to make that they're lying about everything. Because in that case, it may not be a war, but I mean, I've ever fired a gun, or by all

Unknown Speaker: 26:45

their stuff. You know, there's definitely truth. Two, you know, the news that we're hearing, but it's, uh, you

Jerry Malcolm: 26:52

know, but you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful. Because now you really use it. Because first you said they're lying. Now you're saying it's definitely true. So you got to

Unknown Speaker: 27:01

put it this way. Okay. If you if you if the News is reporting on something, okay. And the reporting on a subject, and they tell a lie during that report, which is in like Storm said, in most cases, then what do we believe that's the problem, you know, right now is what do we actually believe? Because we've been getting all kinds of click conflicting reports about all kinds of things going on. So that's, that's the thing. I think you're right on target. Storm was right on target. And Jerry, you're right on target to because it's not all a lie. We know that. But, I mean, when they go in for $800 million, you know, if they can, you know, embellish and make it, you know, worse than it. And then it really is, you know, and what are the numbers like we didn't hear any actual, you know, numbers like, and we hope that there's none. Okay, I pray him right now, that there's not one single child that actually got injured. And it was a, you know, just a report that happened because we don't want, you know, children to be at risk here. But, I mean, we've been watching millions and millions of women and children going across the border, like crazy. I don't know how many million people have migrated to, you know, all the other countries. So, you know,

Jerry Malcolm: 28:31

right. I got you, Kevin. I got I'm saying I got you now is there anybody think? What storm is saying that he's just in some storm all by himself, and he's off his rockers. Oh, wait, what should they? What should they wait Who said 100%? Sidcup. Sitka? Why do you feel that? Go ahead, sucker?

Unknown Speaker: 28:53

Yeah, no. I get where there's some apprehension, right and believe in the news. And I understand that there may be biases. I think one thing that we have to continually consider as we're going down this road, is that there's reporters on the ground, that don't have an agenda storm, they don't have an agenda. They are in a war zone, filming things and talking to people without an agenda. Now, that's not saying that there aren't people doing the same thing. I'm not suggesting that it doesn't happen

Jerry Malcolm: 29:31

a second. Jump in for one second. Second. Let me just say one piece if it's okay, just one piece I want to say. And I'm gonna go right back to you. When you say there's reporters that don't have an agenda, though, it's how can I say this? It's not like they have their own production company, their own this their own that their own funding their own TV network. They work for somebody. So it's not about a reporter's agenda. If it was an agenda, it's about the company and their firms

Jonathan Bing: 29:59

through Jerry All reporters independent reporters that sell their stuff that feeds they have people that drive around the country right now with walkie talkies and CB and when something happened, they rush to the scene and they record the footage and upload it. So hold on to that,

Unknown Speaker: 30:18

though those those people that are actually reporting that those are the ones that everybody calls conspiracy theorists. Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 30:28

We have to do all we have to do is

Jerry Malcolm: 30:31

wait, wait, wait, wait, let's, let's see can land

Unknown Speaker: 30:36

on Jerry all day,

Jerry Malcolm: 30:38

but he wasn't even done talking though.

Unknown Speaker: 30:41

I was Jerry dinner. I'm sorry. Jonathan, do you mind if I just land this? Brother? On the other? The other part of this that I think is is is mind boggling maybe is the fact that we have we have been a cold to cool war with Russia or the former Soviet Union for upwards of, I don't know, 60 years. And for us to be somehow thinking that there's some conspiracy, that the Russians are not the invaders with there's, there's no that we can't even find conspiratorial videos of Ukrainian folks invading Russia. Can we all agree that Russia is invading Ukraine? And that's, that's part of this, and then we start to question we all and I'm guilty of it, I'm not gonna suggest that I'm, you know, some smart motherfucker, because I'm not. But I think that if we go down this road, we pretend we're really smart, because we have access to the internet. And then we decide to choose and pick our facts. The thing that, you know, Storm said that that kind of, you know, set me off a little bit is I'm I'm a bit of a I'm very curious. So when I when I, you know, this goes back to COVID. This goes into this, this, this goes into a litany of things. But but my sources are not American based. I listened to Australian radio, I read the Singapore times I look at the websites that are in Turkey, trying to figure out right, because that's really the only way because you're right, there is bias. But it is the whole goddamn world in on this conspiracy, because I challenge every one of you to do the same thing. Look around this isn't that weird? It's crazy to think that, that every human on the planet is in on this. And if that's the case, you've probably lost your mind and could be diagnosed with fucking schizophrenia, but

Unknown Speaker: 32:57

he knows what he's doing to be fair,

Unknown Speaker: 32:59

so sick, I want to address something because I think you brought up a great point. And I don't think everybody is in on it. However, we live in our own bubble of the country that we're in, right. And when you brought up Australia, you know, a lot of times Australia didn't get any coverage and what was really going on here in the US. And it was atrocious. When I was speaking to my Australian friends, that their shelves were becoming bear. They were building camps close to 5100 mile radius to try and treat COVID, which was supposedly for COVID treatment. But she goes, I am scared out of my mind. I don't know what's going on there. But they're taking sick people in there. And I'm not seeing anything that's good around it. I've driven by it a few times, there were things that never got reported to the US. So I think what you bring up is a good point, it's important to go outside of the US Hang on, it's important to go outside of the US for some of these sources. Because if we're fed American lies the whole time, you know, granted, there might be one or two networks that are credible, and that are playing it down the middle. But what Jerry said is important. Reporters are putting their life on the line, but they're working for a company, they're working for someone else. They're not typically independent out there. They're not going to go to Ukraine without funding or a reason to be there. They want to get the story. Journalists are hungry and thirsty for attention. But story. Right?

Jerry Malcolm: 34:20

I gotta say this though, storm. I'm not agreeing. And I'm not implying that everything every reporter is saying is a lie. I'm not I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying it is, you know, possible. And, you know, and there's reasons behind why some things get, get more attention, because there's a reason behind those particular things getting more attention. But I'm by no means going to be on the stage saying that, Oh, this happened and that happened. A reporter reported is more than likely a lie because they work for a big company. I'm not trying to say that at all. But I hear what you're saying. I don't think you think I'm saying it, but just wanna make that clear.

Unknown Speaker: 34:56

I get it. It's agenda driven in certain cases, and I'll just land with this. You know, wait, wait, wait,

Jerry Malcolm: 35:01

wait before you learn one second, I got another glitch. I don't know why this thing is doing this. But we're starting to glitch heavily again. So I'm going to cut off chat for a moment, my app, I can't even move it right now it's glitching so hard. So I'm going to put it back on in about maybe 10 minutes, maybe to clear up a little bit and loosen up. But once again, I want to welcome everybody to debate the news. While it's still early. I'm going to ask you once again, to you know, when I say this, please, please just help me a little bit, click the share. And as soon as you click the Share, it's just a little button a little word, it says invite people, all you got to do is click that and start touching on people's faces. And it's called pinging them. And they'll come in when they see we're live. If you can do that. Also, I got 70 shares in the wall. Just 30 People don't get me to 100. Now let's do this. Let's get more aggressive. Can y'all get to me to 150 So I'm going to I'm going to go share someone a wall really quick. And follow. Follow my lead what I got going on, I'm gonna say something real cool on the wall. So anybody else want to jump in? And so state your name? Jen, go ahead, Miss Jen.

Unknown Speaker: 36:03

Okay, well, um, if we want, you know, how to predict someone's someone's behavior is to look at their past behavior. If you look at Russia, Russia bombed the hell out of Syria. And he use Ceren gas kill children didn't care. So he's doing the same thing and Ukraine. And, um, he's back there smiling because his little campaign disinformation campaigns working. Because the whole Russian pop propaganda is going on right now as we speak. It's everything that Tucker Carlson's doing right now.

Jerry Malcolm: 36:49

You know, elaborate, elaborate on what you mean by that Miss, what do you mean, this whole propaganda is like, what part of the propaganda? Are you referring to

Unknown Speaker: 36:56

the bio weapons labs, they're all over the world, these bio weapons are is just a bio lab, not a bio weapon lab. So that's, that's what I'm talking about. I mean, because I don't, I don't trust any of the major news sources. I go to Reuters, or Associated Press, or NPR, you know, etc, etc, I'd really don't trust but if a bunch of different news agencies is printing the same thing, and you put it together, and you do a little bit of research, that's how you can trust the news. Because to be an authoritarian rule, they want to control all the information. And that's what Russia is trying to do. Russia is trying to control the narrative.

Jerry Malcolm: 37:54

But you do know that putter news they were talking about was news that was coming out of Ukraine, and it wasn't it wasn't Russian news. Miss.

Unknown Speaker: 38:04

Yeah, I was gonna speak on night, if you don't mind.

Unknown Speaker: 38:06

Yeah. I'm muted.

Unknown Speaker: 38:10

Okay, great. So yeah, so that whole thing about the Ukraine, and the Bio Labs, again, it's like, how do you know, what is going on there? You know, by labs that are funded by the US State Department, right, sorry, the US? Defense Department, Department of Defense rather, how do you know? I don't know. I could never know. Right? And and if I don't know, and if you don't know, and if Tucker Carlson doesn't know, but he's the only person with the fucking sorry for certain guys with the conversation, or whoever else to to ask the question. Right. Then, of course, we should also, like you said, we should all start asking these questions online and start trying to do our due diligence. And if we don't know, again, not back in Putin. But again, if we don't know, we haven't got a clue. What's to say that an individual like that's going to know, again, if these these spaces are being funded by the United States, knowing that the United States really doesn't like Russia, and doesn't want Washington succeed. So we have to ask ourselves, then, is it fake news? Or, or are we being spun fake news so as to not ask the questions to find out exactly what

Jerry Malcolm: 39:15

Wait a gusset, gusset? gusset? Are you implying that every single thing that comes from? It kind of feels like you're a little bit because you said somebody a mute your mic one second ago, someone was he or she might just mean for one second. Okay, okay. Yeah. Is your mic. When your mic is open? It makes an echo. It it? It sounds like you clearly are implying No, you're not implying that you write you're not applying. You're basically saying it. You're basically saying it. So you're not implying that you're correct. You're based on saying so why am I so because the US because the US doesn't like Russia? Do you think that every piece of news it comes over here is going to be remixed a different way because the US doesn't like Russia.

Unknown Speaker: 40:00

I'm saying I didn't say that at all. But it I didn't verbatim say that. And I don't know if it felt like that's what I was saying. But what I'm saying is that when, as it pertains to this particular story, and this particular point that the lady was talking about, Jen, I think she was talking about specifically, the the Bio Lab story or point or part of the whole, you know, narrative that that Putin's putting out there, she said that, you know, Tucker Carlson is doing his bit to spin, or to put out Russian propaganda, and it's because I didn't speak about anything else. The kids did nothing else, only to biolabs. I'm saying if we don't ask questions, okay. Okay. I'd like to know, just wanna say, I'd like to know, that's what I'm saying. Gotcha.

Jerry Malcolm: 40:48

Okay, I got you. I thought you were talking about in general, when you mentioned about the US doesn't like Russia. So I thought, I thought you were started off with that. But it seemed like it kind of went in a direction and start covering more different ground. Other than that one particular point you were making, because it starts to feel like that when you're talking. But I could be wrong, bro. Thank you, Mr. Augustus. Is there anybody else that want to jump in on this topic and share your thoughts and views I got 17 Hand raises right now. I'm going to bring y'all up. And when you're up to 19 right now, when I bring you up, dude, do me a favor, let's do something a little different. How about joining in the conversation? So I appreciate you making the cute stage look cute. But join the conversation. Anybody else want to jump in? And so state your name? And I'll go to you next? Anybody? Okay? It looks like I'm about to drop about 20 to 30 people, because if y'all gonna be on stage, I'm like, trying to open up y'all, y'all. So like a bunch of mice? Go ahead, miss.

Unknown Speaker: 41:51

This is my honor. So I was thinking, you know, the US is making a lot of restrictions, you know, to Russia. So I was thinking as they use their weapons. What happens if they have issues with their weapons, and they are not elbow to get materials to fit their weapons, if, in case their weapons don't work? At the moment? There's anyone who has an answer to that? Would that be something that will hold them back from continuing? Attacking Ukraine? Just a thought. Oh, that makes sense.

Jerry Malcolm: 42:34

It made sense. Selena Slovenia, you have to mute your mic, miss. I'm going to ask everybody. When you come to the stage, please mute your mic. It makes a lot of noise. It rattles it echoes. And it is, you know, please make sure your mics are muted. Just keep checking. I don't know if anybody want to answer that. Because I didn't hear anybody attempt to answer it. But yeah, so anybody can jump in.

Jonathan Bing: 43:00

You know, I'll jump in. Because I'm sitting here. You know, there's a lot that's going on, you know, and we're talking about what's what's going on in terms of the battle. But we're talking, you know, I brought up the the sanctions, you know, and right now, the, when you look at the sanctions, Putin has admitted his he's admitted that the sanctions are working okay. In a speech, he admitted the sanctions are working. And, and the fact that he had to go ahead and pay try to force pay his company's debt and be the first time in over a century that they defaulted on a debt. Okay. And I would frozen assets. Okay. And trying to attachment on the US, you know, saying that as the US that's causing them to default on their debt, that, you know, I think people aren't getting by it and credit enough for what's going on. The Russian people are becoming aware of what's happening over there. The Russian people are, they're becoming like they did, they're starting to figure out that they've been bamboozled. Yeah, of sorts. And now, you know, Putin is biting back, like I told you last night when he said, anyone that, you know, have a western mindset. If our traders, you know, I speak I'll be I speak out and anti war or traders, anyone on a further shake, they're like, they're like, I net that goes in your mouth, you're gonna spit them right out. That's some harsh language. That's the scary as language, you know, and when you're hearing that from a former KGB person, a person that you know, is a madman, you know, it scares the hell out of you. So it's designed to get you back in line. He said, a lot of he's using a lot of tough language. He's using the N word nuclear word nuclear, you know, when he talks about, you know what his response will be? Should someone else get involved? Okay, now he's talking about, you know, I'll spit you guys out like a knack that went in my mouth. That That doesn't tell me doesn't sound like some guy that's sure myself. That doesn't sound like a guy that sure that he's winning the war, that he's the strategist that you guys are making them out to be. It sounds like a man that's desperate. He's turning on his own says his own citizens, instead of trying to educate them. He's doing a lot of things that you wouldn't expect someone that's so short.

Jerry Malcolm: 45:20

Yeah, it sounds like he's trying to make it sound like he's trying to make those Aligarh those those people is was down with him. He's trying to sell it to them and not being sold. So So yeah, I saw that article. And it definitely sounds like some of these internal people are not on the same page as him. So he does have a problem. There was a lady who tried to jump in what should they miss? You said I, somebody tried to jump in. Miss Miss. Wow. This is crazy.

Unknown Speaker: 45:52

I'm not a miss. Go ahead, bro. What's up, Jerry? Jonathan, I just want to tell you guys I love debate the news. I feel like I could talk to people. And we could talk about the news respectfully, without getting mad at one another and just share our thoughts. So I just want to say that first drive

Jonathan Bing: 46:08

to hell would you mind?

Unknown Speaker: 46:10

Hey, what's up? So look up, Putin is going to not not going to talk to people before he does what he does. There's just a question that we got to think about. And a young woman before he said, Bio Labs, I think they're just Bio Labs. But you know, you think they're gonna have bio weapons, they're gonna broadcast it to us. So I'm just saying we got to sometimes, you know, read between the lines. And sometimes we got to put the puzzle together ourselves, because mainstream media is going to tell us everything. And she mentioned some sources, rooters and Associated Press. And yeah, those are some good sources. But we're not going to know everything we got to dig in, sometimes. So that's all I want to say. For now.

Jerry Malcolm: 47:05

So you're aware you're in Canada? Yes, sir. What's going on in Canada as far as COVID? Have you guys been noticing any type of uptick in Canada? As far as COVID goes?

Unknown Speaker: 47:15

Yes. So like, I'm at the mall right now. But like two weeks before, at the mall, they're at the cafe, I can go into Mall. But now if I go into cafeteria section, there's a security guard. They're looking for your vaccine passport with your QR code. So they uplifted that so now I can sit in the cafeteria without having to show my QR code. So a little bit has been lifted. But I want to leave the country and do other things. So I'm still worried about that as as a person that's non vaccinated, but

Jerry Malcolm: 47:45

have you been seeing any or hearing any up as far as the virus spreading because there's a new variant? This ba two and you know, in California, Los Angeles, New Jersey, different different places supposedly been spreading? I'm I was just wondering, have you heard any about that in Canada? That's all

Unknown Speaker: 48:03

Yeah, yeah, you're right. There's something that developed but I think a lot of people are just tired now and like today in Toronto, the weather is like is good weather so and St. Patrick's Day, but people are just tired now. A lot of people are tired like and even like

Jonathan Bing: 48:22

what's good weather in Canada? 38 degrees

Unknown Speaker: 48:26

are you talking Fahrenheit and Celsius? But right now it's like 10 degrees Celsius. So I want to say that's probably like yet 30 or 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

Jonathan Bing: 48:38

Good weather Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 48:40

All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, after I leave here, but yeah, it's got today is a good day in Toronto. Do check the weather today. For us is good weather man. But once all this stuff is lifted, man, I want to go go to Texas or Florida. Yes, sir.

Jonathan Bing: 49:00

Absolutely. In Florida, first of all, you want to go to Florida. And and Florida. You know what I'll say what I'm upset about. Ron DeSantis down in Florida has done nothing, absolutely nothing to help us get to the virus. Okay. And people are looking at him because he's a hit like like he's a hero. And he's caused countless number lives. Okay, he's been irresponsible. And you guys, people are rewarding him for pretty much sitting there and doing the opposite of he killed so many people. His policies led to so many deaths. And people are rewarding him. Oh, he's he outranks Trump, okay, because he's not afraid to take on the left. He's not afraid to not give it Who the hell want a politician that doesn't give an inch. But you guys are that that that seems to be what the right is looking for right now. Jerry that seems to be what they want. They want someone that doesn't give an inch. They want clear winners and losers. They don't want no everyone when they want clearly defined winner. losers. And the sad part about it is a lot of losers on those winners sighs because they're voting against their own interest. And that's crazy that they're doing it.

Unknown Speaker: 50:10

Well, this is a really,

Unknown Speaker: 50:11

thank God.

Unknown Speaker: 50:13

I'll just say, being in Florida and being in Tampa, you know, I have been very happy with the way things are done. I look up a candidate. I'm just like, I can't imagine but I will say, I did not like when DeSantis went to a, like a school meeting, and I saw him turn around and say, Oh, no to some kids, like, get that thing off. That's when he crossed the line. For me. It's like, okay, I just thought that was disrespectful. You don't be mean to kids. Everything else I can handle. I just thought that was kind of crappy. But I have to say I'm really happy. I live in Florida.

Jonathan Bing: 50:48

In Florida, what makes you happy to live in Florida? Well, honestly,

Unknown Speaker: 50:52

we got the best governor. I've

Unknown Speaker: 50:54

just, I've heard horror stories of people being depressed and, and all these mandates and everything. And I just feel like I've kept myself safe. I've kept my family safe. You know, nobody. My son got sick for a couple weeks. But you know, he's young, and vibrant, and he was okay. I haven't known anyone to be truly, really sick. But I stay outside a lot to go to outdoor activities. I haven't felt, you know, restricted and confined and then I hear things like people having to show the vaccine car to even go to get out of the country on a plane. Like, I just think it's two extremes. But I just have to say if I'm going to be in an extreme I'm happy I'm in Florida over Canada.

Jerry Malcolm: 51:38

Yeah, you know that. Are you speaking in Canada? I was gonna say to the flight stuff is not just limited to Florida. I mean, yeah.

Unknown Speaker: 51:47

Of the two extremes, like Canada's extreme one way Florida's kind of extreme the other way and if I'm going to be an extreme I think I'm kind of happy I'm down in Florida.

Unknown Speaker: 51:55

I concur. And I'm in Texas

Jonathan Bing: 52:01

Texas is another state that's another state once again, and I you know, I'm be honest. When you look at these red states, Florida and Texas, you guys consider yourselves to be patriots. Okay? And you guys and pretty much you guys said hey, we're going to run around do everything the opposite what anybody does anything the right way. And then later on you guys, you guys say see we were right. Okay. Now when the next when the next pandemic comes along, okay. And is this business Debbie a smallpox or anything else? You guys are gonna like let's do that again. Okay, it caused death this pandemic and certainly can cause death the next pandemic. So you guys in the red state and the conservatives. I think you guys unAmerican. I believe that conservatism has become unAmerican because it's more about me. It's about American, not Americans. And that's how I felt

Unknown Speaker: 52:51

that was going on. Jonathan, this is Daniel. What you're saying is nonsense right now. Can you name any policies with the census that got people killed because my uncle did die in Florida, and had nothing to do with DeSantis policies? If anything, Cuomo got 15,000 people killed not to Sanders, can you name policies because especially with the recent study that came out, I think it was Johns Hopkins. I said the lockdowns did basically nothing so what did the centers do to cause death? Okay,

Jonathan Bing: 53:16

first and foremost. He put the law in place that oh, you can't the schools can put in place a mandatory mass policy. Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 53:25

Mass word. negligible. Jonathan.

Jonathan Bing: 53:33

Did you actually say

Unknown Speaker: 53:36

science bro, you say you're

Jonathan Bing: 53:39

dying cells, that fucking mask?

Unknown Speaker: 53:43

Fitting in 95 minutes for it to work. All these in 95 masks that people had that don't fit their face. They don't do shit. It's science. Jonathan. If you believe the science believe the science.

Jerry Malcolm: 53:54

What Jonathan is saying is the right maths where he's not saying you're good at maths. But he that no. Okay, listen, it's all

Jonathan Bing: 54:03

math. If you ban all math, they're fucking God. ban all math. Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 54:07

He didn't ban all math. He gave people a choice. Jonathan, there's a big difference.

Jerry Malcolm: 54:12

Let me ask you a question. You know, how you go into, like, in certain places where I got fumes, like, like a lot of painters, they're aware of the end. 95. So do you do you believe that in 95 have some efficacy to them? That's a yes or no, the guy speaking

Unknown Speaker: 54:29

it was very negligible. I think it was under 3%. If I remember, there was a big report that came out. There's a reason Jonathan people are saying de Santos was right out of the

Jonathan Bing: 54:40

middle that's what all these medical professionals died because they weren't protected. Right. That's why every medical professional that treated COVID patient

Unknown Speaker: 54:49

got COVID as a 99% survival rate. That's why they didn't die.

Jonathan Bing: 54:53

No, I'm telling my set got sick. That's why everybody is treated. COVID patients got sick. Correct? Because guess is very good. pages. No, no, no, they didn't. Okay. Oh, it is really contagious.

Jerry Malcolm: 55:06

Anyway, Dan, Daniel here, let me show some. If, if so, in 95 and 95, as far as hospitals as far as anything, are you guys basically saying there is no use for in 95? Man minimal

Unknown Speaker: 55:21

use? I'll pull up the study was Johns Hopkins but there's minimal advantage for the client

Jerry Malcolm: 55:37

quiet Okay, yeah. Okay, who is it? I don't know who it is.

Okay. Okay, so um, wow, I never that that's new to me. I can see the effectiveness of a good mascot in 95. I can see it in 95.

Unknown Speaker: 56:02

The problem is it's an aerosol virus. So the mass don't do much because of it.

Unknown Speaker: 56:08

You're wrong. You're wrong.

Jonathan Bing: 56:11

Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.

Jerry Malcolm: 56:13

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Daniel. Daniel. Wait, everybody mute their mic, everybody. Everybody mute their mic. The guy that said, Daniel, you're wrong. Do me a favor. This is the last time I'm going to ask if you're not speaking, please. mute your mic is mess is making all kinds of noise. The guy who said Dan, you're wrong. What's your name, bro? We man, go ahead. We can speak on it.

Unknown Speaker: 56:36

I don't think there's much to speak on. I've already spoke on this. I mean, anybody could just Google the effectiveness of Ni five mastery. We know this already. Right? So especially when it comes to the airborne virus. That's an aerosol that hacks a ride on essentially your spit. Right? Which the masking stop that's in layman's terms.

Jerry Malcolm: 56:57

Why do why do people even cover their mouth when they sneeze? I mean, it's like it in 95 I don't see how it cannot have some effectiveness to it in 95 it has to be some type of effectiveness to an 85

Unknown Speaker: 57:13

JERRY To 95 assists Kevin.

Jerry Malcolm: 57:16

Greg Kevin.

Unknown Speaker: 57:17

So and then 95 mask is effective like for construction paint use and everything like no and yes. Wait,

Unknown Speaker: 57:27

no doctors use it in surgery back in industrial and non five mass medical and industrial. Okay, okay. Check your back. So much of the bullshit from you guys. Man. Jeez.

Unknown Speaker: 57:41

Can we

Unknown Speaker: 57:44

let the man so so you're going to tell me a medical grade and 95 Mask is going to stop Corona

Unknown Speaker: 57:58

and nine five will stop COVID-19

Unknown Speaker: 58:02

That's wrong.

Unknown Speaker: 58:06

You could do whatever you want. If you need to fact check that go ahead and do that and send it to me on my back channel. That I'm wrong.

Unknown Speaker: 58:12

Can I see something who

Unknown Speaker: 58:14

wants it in their backyard standard right now who

Unknown Speaker: 58:16

wants it? weed man? Weed now smoke bring it

Jerry Malcolm: 58:23

go ahead. The other person was jumping. Great.

Unknown Speaker: 58:25

That was Marilyn I was just gonna say some moms RN and my boyfriend's a phlebotomist and ones vaccinated ones not once a contract worker ones works with the elderly but um you know, they wore a mask to their job. And I have to think even though I don't I don't wear a mask. You know, if you're in the medical field, do we have any nurses or anyone who can say I think it had to have cut down because neither one of them got sick and they know they didn't you know, didn't get anybody sick. So I think it has to do something it has to at least maybe it can't prevent it but can't just wearing the mask at least cut down some of that spit flying around.

Jerry Malcolm: 59:05

It has to do something I mean that that that'll listen, I don't know if it's going to absolutely stop it but it will at least like let's say if it's at 100% floating around, and then you have that on maybe only 70% will be floating around that that could be all the difference in in you know making it the the strain not so strong to cause infection at that particular moment. And and like like somebody said earlier, if you're in a hospital, all those people come in with COVID Just about everybody working in the hospital. If demands didn't help they would all catch COVID Soon they come across a couple COVID patients because I've seen hundreds of COVID patients throughout the day. It has to be something does does it stop it all the way Come on.

Unknown Speaker: 59:53

Can we at least agree on that part is what I was getting at with.

Jerry Malcolm: 59:57

It has to be I mean when I had COVID are winning Ladies and she's like, Oh, I'm okay with my mask. I was like, Dang you pretty cool. And shoot, she comments. She feels okay, because her mask, she's actually dozens of people like you every day. I was like, okay. You know, I come from a family of nurses, I think only one of them COVID. And they all work in COVID sections. So anybody else want to jump in or anybody disagrees? agrees?

Unknown Speaker: 1:00:21

Hey, listen, I agree with you because I was in the hospital with COVID. And the nurses was coming, they were coming in with their mask. And I was like, and I literally asked the question, I said, Man, you just have on a mask. I said, you know, um, aren't you guys worried? I mean, how often do you change the mask? I was asking all the great questions. And she said, No, we were and they give everyone masks that come in the hospital. She said, No, the N 95 masks are working. Because not only do we have to protect ourselves from you, but some of the people here have are asymptomatic. So we have to protect our patients. And that's exactly what she said, because there are a lot of nurses and doctors because of the shortage. If they were asymptomatic, as long as they weren't having symptoms, they had to come to work. So they were not only being protected from the patients, but they were also protecting the patients from them as well. So I do believe that 95 Maths work I really do, I don't think anyone would go to work knowing that they could catch something like COVID and risk going back home, you know, to their families and stuff every single day. I do believe that in 95 Maths works I do I really do this so come down speaking

Jerry Malcolm: 1:01:29

to social distancing work on a percent shorter distance. So social distancing works. Is it possible that if you're within the distance where you're not as social distance like six feet, is it possible to mask can enable a little bit more a distance because it's keeping some of that rays out of you? That only makes sense are you to disagree that

Unknown Speaker: 1:01:55

it doesn't work? That's what it is, though. Jerry? I mean, you're you're literally speaking about how it works in fact

Jerry Malcolm: 1:02:04

right they're so adamant that it doesn't work. I mean, I just don't get it

Unknown Speaker: 1:02:09

because there's Tread on Me types. Okay, that's why Yeah, you can't

Unknown Speaker: 1:02:15

speak any anything you say

Jerry Malcolm: 1:02:16

to those people. Yeah, but I'm I'm an anti Vax. But But it's so interesting, because I'm an anti Vax, that kind of this kind of like, looks at other things a little different than some of the anti vaxxers

Unknown Speaker: 1:02:29

Well, Jerry I mean, I'm anti Vax simply because people who don't think master social distancing work force me into according to get put something in my body, and I'm not gonna stand for that when all they fuckin had to do was put on a mask of social distance, because they cry about haircuts.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:02:42

But you know, you know, it's interesting, somebody on the stage said, the science says, So what's your name? Is that the science that they don't work, Debbie? Debbie. Okay, Debbie. I got a question for you. Okay. Because you know, I'm a critical listener. You just said, the science says it doesn't work. So you believe it because the sciences doesn't work. Yeah. But, but But Debbie, I got I got you, but you don't agree with the science says the vaccine works. So you're a situational agree ear. Oh, yeah. Jonathan. Jonathan Johnson. You missed that part. He was on the phone. Jonathan. It Jonathan. You hear that? Jonathan? Are you there?

Unknown Speaker: 1:03:26

They don't have. Jonathan.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:03:29

What do you think? I know. Okay, listen, Debbie. Debbie. Debbie just said, listen, Debbie just said that the science says that the math don't work. Right. And I said so you believe the science? She said? Yes. I said But Debbie, the science says the vaccine works but you don't believe that? She's a situational science believer. And Debbie, you know, my anti Vax, but I'm just saying it's interesting that you do out there to science. You maybe should have picked something else other than saying science, because you pick my response. I did. He said the science says so. You said your response

Unknown Speaker: 1:04:03

was the science doesn't work. vaccine, which is so not true. Okay, what was your response? I'm sorry. Why are you telling me okay, I apologize. Let's hear your

Unknown Speaker: 1:04:13

response Forget

Jerry Malcolm: 1:04:17

it. Debbie. don't tap out like that. Where's my man see rockin see rock on the stage.

Unknown Speaker: 1:04:22

Don't tap? Yeah, I was drowning down there, man. Thanks for bringing me up.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:04:26

I don't even see you. I don't even see you brother. That's the thing when I'm mine. I don't look I don't I don't even know where you are. Oh, I see you right? Yes, yes. Yes. See? Quick Change your damn picture broke out to read names. I read profile pictures.

Unknown Speaker: 1:04:39

Some people needed some encouragement this week so I had you know how to get them keep going.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:04:44

See rock does. Do you see any effectiveness whatsoever with a mask or is it just basically zero help with a mask? Which which side of the fence are you and

Unknown Speaker: 1:04:56

it's got to help a little bit with some of that. That's the that Jonathan does when he's talking, you know what I mean? Like, but, uh, you know, no, I just don't want to wear one. I mean, I believe that there's got to be some kind of effectiveness with it. I just, I just, I don't know, man, I believe in my immune system. I want my immune system to work and be worked.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:05:17

If you're if I once went to a restaurant I went to, well, actually, I was at a, I forgot to name this pizza place. When it cooked your pizza right in front of you. They put all the stuff and this girl was laughing like, right over the pizza and, and having a conversation with a friend. And just, I was like, can you stop singing over my goddamn pizza? And, and, you know, talking about food? So my question is this, do you see rock? If somebody was handling your food? You know, and they were like talk? Would you rather them have a mask on? Or no, ask Debbie? Debbie, would you rather have a mask on? Or somebody was talking over your food? Or the masks would have no effectiveness? of them talking, laughing? chopping up over your food while you're cooking? What would you prefer Debbie? For them to have a mask on? Or no mask? Pick one.

Unknown Speaker: 1:06:01

So you're asking me if I want them spitting on my food or

Jerry Malcolm: 1:06:04

not? I'm asking the question. If somebody is talking over your food while they're cooking it like they're in it. Hey, it was something you want literally their face right over your food while they're preparing it. Would you feel more comfortable data in 95? One, or would do absolutely nothing from keeping their virus or germs off of your food. Pick one.

Unknown Speaker: 1:06:24

Okay, so the big difference that you're missing is that you're talking about spit versus I

Jerry Malcolm: 1:06:28

didn't say none about spit. I just said would you want somebody speaking over your speaking? Jerry they don't get

Jonathan Bing: 1:06:37

she won't give in and she she wants to she wants to go ahead and have her her way. She's never gone in. Science. It didn't work. out that. She pivoted she's not

Unknown Speaker: 1:06:56

spitting on my food or having them wear a mask.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:06:59

Why would you make Debbie I rock with you? But you know, it's interesting. It's just so funny. How you literally Debbie? No, no, no, you just remix something just lied on stage. I didn't say to you, Debbie. Do us my spitting over your food. I didn't say that. I said somebody speaking over your food and laughing talking to their friends chopping it up. Would you rather them have a mask on their face? While they're speaking over your food? You'd rather not pick one. That's all I said. Oh, God does that say less? I gotta say less. I'll tell you what. I think that is nasty. Somebody's talking about my damn boo. Put it down mascot. I do. Terry.

Unknown Speaker: 1:07:36

Those are facts. Those are facts. Man. Have you guys seen the studies, all the stuff that comes out of our mouths that we've done since COVID? Started without masks and without a virus? Have you guys seen just what's coming?

Unknown Speaker: 1:07:48

So yeah,

Unknown Speaker: 1:07:51

yeah. But you get sick very quickly now.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:07:55

I mean, I'm about a week man. I'm about to do Debbie is solid because Debbie got some stuff. She got to get off her chest. So Debbie get ready in 54321 Chat is open. Debbie going there. lightsome going in light Jerry up. Debbie. Debbie going down, light me up and say our crazy, say some stupid about Jerry. Debbie. I want to read it. I like taking screenshots and studying them later. Thank you. Once again, everybody. Here, once again, everybody. Welcome to debate the news. And for those that have not been in here, or do not know, debate, the news is a podcast you can go to debate the news.com We are on all your favorite podcast handles, Spotify, Apple Music, whichever one is popular. Whichever one is out there. You can go download past previous and present episodes, including the one we had yesterday. It was absolutely lit. You guys go listen to our podcast. If anybody's in this audience that missed it yesterday. Go listen to the one debate the news.com Yesterday, it was late. You're gonna thank me later. Also, make sure you follow this man, Mr. Jonathan Bing, and me Mr. Jerry Malcolm, and my brother Grant Cardone who's not in the building. We are the host of debate the news, make sure you follow the green house at the top. Put the bell on Mr. Meehan, Mr. Jonathan, Bing and myself. And let's get back down to this conversation. Dr. Lisa, I don't know if you're near your phone. But if you are tapping mic one time, say yay. Yeah. Dr. Lisa, tap your mic one time. That means no way. Damn

Unknown Speaker: 1:09:33

my brother, how

Jerry Malcolm: 1:09:34

are you? I'm doing great. And I'm going to tell you how much greater I'm doing about 30 seconds depending what your answer is to the question about asking, Okay, Dr. Lisa, if somebody was talking over your food at a high end restaurant, having fun laugh with their friends, would you rather have in 95 on or nothing. You just want them to talk over your food.

Unknown Speaker: 1:09:53

I can't stand it when people talk over my food. So I prefer them to have Have a mask on.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:10:02

Okay, Debbie said it doesn't matter, Debbie Debbie. Just so Debbie just so crossed over, it doesn't even matter. Do you see any effectiveness possible within in 95? As far as a virus goes now, do you see any potential effectiveness? If the virus is at 100%? Strength? Is it possible, it can be diluted a little bit? Or a major bit if you're probably properly wearing a good fit in 95? Mass is in good condition. What do you think, Dr. Lisa,

Unknown Speaker: 1:10:38

I think that it could be effective. But I don't think it's the total solution. I think, I think part of this situated part of the issue is that folks are not given alternatives on how to build their immune system up. And so when you're telling me the only option is vaccination, the only option is a mass. That's when I have an issue with it. Just like when I had stage four cancer, and they told me the only option was chemo or radiation. But I went to Scottsdale Arizona did natural medicine, and I stay sick with the chemo and radiation. When I did natural medicine, I was healed. So I don't think

Unknown Speaker: 1:11:21

that let's go let's go. Congratulations, by the way.

Unknown Speaker: 1:11:24

Thank you so much. I don't think that they give options to people. I think folks are one sided sometimes. And so if one decided to do the best best thing. I don't think that's enough. I think you have to work on the immune system. And so that your body can our body was created for fight these viruses. I think that fun. You know what I mean? I love I love this enough. I don't think if you I decided not to get vaccinated based on my immune system and, and that the vaccination could cause cancer cells to mutate again. So I chose not to give vaccination, but I do things for my immune system. So it can fight it all. So I just think that when you're one sided, and not open to seeing other alternatives, I think that's the issue. That's

Unknown Speaker: 1:12:18

Jim, Jerry, can I say something?

Jerry Malcolm: 1:12:20

Of course you can, bro.

Unknown Speaker: 1:12:22

This is Mica. So I remember you man. Jonathan said I was a dangerous man for saying natural medicine could cure something like COVID. And remember, every symptom is COVID. Right? Remember that Jonathan? Bathroom medicine? Dr. Lisa, thank you very much. I was in Arizona hired to bring natural remedies to a client recently.

Jonathan Bing: 1:12:50

My meeting, okay. I'm not talking. Don't keep talking. I'll put you out of your audience. way the flow goes. I now I've never ever ever said natural medicine. Okay, it was back. Okay. I said what have you planned until we have scientific proof? Okay, that's natural. Not me. Not a natural medicine. Natural. I guess like Vitamin D is what you guys are talking about? Or something like that alone. Cannot care. Now I can help. Okay, help in terms of preventing you from getting really sick? Because you have it? I mean, do you have any assistance? But when you go to the emergency room? Can I give you a cure you? So let's be straight. Okay, don't come in and twist what I say. I mean, I know. I said I'm consistent.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:13:44

Hey, wait, wait, I don't know if Michael landed mica did you land? Are you Oh,

Unknown Speaker: 1:13:49

no, I was I was trying to get my point out But Jonathan was going to put me down in the audience for trying to finish you know, but you know, basically natural remedies. That means millions of things instead of a mask and or a vaccine, so called vaccine and that PR test, you know, wasn't it an admission that they were basically my DNA tested for COVID never been isolated?

Jerry Malcolm: 1:14:16

Michael, let me say

Jonathan Bing: 1:14:20

you're talking to me, Mike. Let me give me one natural remedy for COVID.

Unknown Speaker: 1:14:26

Well, vitamin D, no. Cannabis.

Jonathan Bing: 1:14:33

Give me one natural because you guys done it right. Give me one natural remedy.

Unknown Speaker: 1:14:37

COVID COVID his own so

Jonathan Bing: 1:14:42

once again, you're crazy. I didn't say that. But you said natural remedies. Give me one that one proven natural remedy for COVID

Unknown Speaker: 1:14:51

Vitamin D and it's proven. Okay, it's not

Unknown Speaker: 1:14:57

absolutely it is.

Unknown Speaker: 1:15:00

No thank you. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. No, no, basically. Jonathan, let me talk. Let me talk

Jonathan Bing: 1:15:21

you have an answer the question

Unknown Speaker: 1:15:22

I'm trying to answer. Okay, a strong immune system laughs at COVID It depends on the person symptoms, how you treat, what's called is COVID. Right? COVID is everything. So you do it with a strong immune system be doing

Jonathan Bing: 1:15:39

that? Because this is bullshit, but

Unknown Speaker: 1:15:44

I'm telling you, I've worked with hundreds College of people who had quote unquote COVID And I came in no mask, no gloves, and help them out. Well, what

Jonathan Bing: 1:15:55

do you do for a living?

Unknown Speaker: 1:15:57

I'm a wellness consultant and a coach sports performance. I used to own a gym wellness and sports performance.

Jonathan Bing: 1:16:08

And you went in with COVID You wouldn't metal not a mass, correct. That's no glove.

Unknown Speaker: 1:16:14

No mask is good on immune immune system.

Jonathan Bing: 1:16:19

Okay. All right. My god, I'm gonna call cat. Okay. Because first and foremost, you're talking about our immune system. Okay, you don't friggin take vitamin D. Okay, after you got COVID The boosts your freakin immune system. That's what you have. Cool. We have COVID. All right. So. So I want to hear I want to hear what they have. Because so if that's the case, then why all these people perishing? When the doctors in the hospital? Why don't we have

Unknown Speaker: 1:16:48

a different ballgame in the hospital? Everything is synthetic. The immune system does not function on synthetics. It has to be bioavailable. That part in the hospital? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

Jerry Malcolm: 1:17:06

wait one second, let me say something. Once I can understand what Jonathan is saying, and I understand what Mike is saying. And, and it took me years, and years up until me catching COVID To understand the power of vitamin D. When I went to the hospital, not one doctor mentioned anything about vitamin D, I was concerned about some feelings I was having with my lungs and things like that. And I went on a journey to really, really truly build my immune system. It took me to get COVID and to start doing some independent research to truly understand the power of vitamin D. And to truly understand, dosages we've been told to take is not the correct dosages, to truly understand gut health, and a difference of having a healthier gut with the things you eat. How can literally change your life change the way you feel. I've never felt I catch colds all the time. It wasn't till I caught COVID That my immune system got much stronger. Because I went on a journey that led me down under to understand what gut health is. And to understand the power of vitamin D and stuff like that. I got a friend named Antonio McKee, his wife, his kids, all kinds of people in his house five people caught COVID. He is around all of them. He didn't catch it. He's a big proponent of natural health, natural things. His immune system is off the chart because of the way he eats. Can natural stuff. Stop COVID? Probably not. Can it help your defense system and your immune system? 100%? Will it be an iron gate? Probably not. But it'd be a pretty solid brick gate or wooden gate. They'll make it harder for that virus to replicate and go further in someone's body. That's not as protected with their immune than someone else is protected. Like what mica is probably speaking. Is that making sense?

Jonathan Bing: 1:19:05

No, you're not making. Okay, I want to I want to know, how is vitamin D? and manufacturing other people.

Unknown Speaker: 1:19:13

John? Jonathan, whoa, whoa, I never said vitamin D was I had a lot of people saying vitamin D.

Jonathan Bing: 1:19:20

But there's one thing you ladies you agree. If you never said it, then give me another natural remedy. That's a care. Hey, Jonathan, they are saying cannabis is helping with COVID right now. Listen to me. Talking to Michael right now. Okay, we're talking about

Unknown Speaker: 1:19:42

the immune system can bring you COVID COVID is not a disease big man.

Unknown Speaker: 1:19:49

ivermectin Hey,

Unknown Speaker: 1:19:50

Hey, Jonathan. Putting the people Jonathan putting people on a ventilator wasn't a cure either. I just I just think that other alternatives if they had I've taught people about the nebulizer, because it's like you can't have a machine breathing for you for so long. So a lot of people didn't make it through because of that ventilator. I'm sorry. It's so I don't think that natural is everything. And I agree that we need our medical doctors. I don't want to ever put that on medical doctors, because it helped. But when my daughter was on life support three times they misdiagnosed her. I sent her to Arizona to get the correct diagnosis. I pay six figures for this to do natural medicine, but she would have been dead had I not done that because three different hospitals kept. So I just think that it's not the it's not the total answer. For everything. I think we need to entertain alternatives. You know it because the nebulizer will go on about COVID Really bad. I wouldn't let him put on a ventilator I put it on the nebulizer and that thing went away. She would have been later much longer.

Unknown Speaker: 1:21:04

Let me say one more thing. Hey, Jonathan, you know, you know, Mr. Bill, Duke, the actor, he's a producer also?

Jonathan Bing: 1:21:11

Yes.

Unknown Speaker: 1:21:12

He's one of my clients. You want to get them on three way and he can tell you things like literally like, wow, like, how come my doctors didn't do this? Well, Bill, your doctors aren't me.

Jonathan Bing: 1:21:23

Well, Mike, you know what? No, Bill Duke, he he's not a doctor. Okay. He's a medical professional. So and so that wouldn't help at all when impress me at all. What I will say is this right here, you know, it's crazy. How the medical field, okay, and people that that's logical, will say, hey, you know what, there's a place for natural medicine. Okay, I guess remedies. There's a place for it. And the treatment, but you guys, all natural remedy is the only god damn tree. All right. And you know, that?

Unknown Speaker: 1:22:05

Nobody said that. Nobody.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:22:07

Nobody said nobody said that. Jonathan is the only way

Unknown Speaker: 1:22:10

to do today. The sick people are the people who got jammed up. You got to look at the floor. Jonathan. I don't know what site you've been looking at. But his floor. And Fauci is in hiding Fauci is in hiding.

Jonathan Bing: 1:22:24

Oh, yeah, he's doubling down on it right now. And you guys, no one said it.

Unknown Speaker: 1:22:30

Someone, just say it, Jonathan. I heard him to a job.

Unknown Speaker: 1:22:36

To 30 years in hiding and the science was all flawed. It was never legitimate from the get go. He invested billions into vaccine.

Unknown Speaker: 1:22:45

It wasn't CNN

Unknown Speaker: 1:22:50

to do it. It had nothing to do with science. It was all about math. This whole thing was all about money. Okay. This that's for sure.

Unknown Speaker: 1:23:01

Barack Obama. Exactly right. Because when they asked, the doctors were saying, I interviewed the doctor in Scottsdale, they have a facility called M Vita. And he meet with a medical professional. They said if they tell people about the nebulizer, they will get in trouble. They can't they would get fired. My mom was in a hospital I told the nurse go get my mother nebulizer. My mom was talking out our head everything. She got me a nebulizer two days later, we walked out the hospital. So it's just that they cannot recommend certain things. They have to go with the protocol that is given from that hospital. They be no other alternatives. They just can't tell you.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:23:43

You know what I'm not. I'm not

Unknown Speaker: 1:23:45

gonna ask a question here.

Jonathan Bing: 1:23:47

Yeah. A doctor, a doctor. Okay. And it's critical that they must take care and when you tell myself Oh, they can't do it. When you start talking like that. Oh, they have to? They have to do that. That's bullshit. Okay. And that's what I'm talking about, is always a goddamn conspiracy, when you people will be a goddamn mouse.

Unknown Speaker: 1:24:13

Now, let me ask you a question. Now, do you think that if not the CDC and everything, put all the hospitals under one protocol. And you know, down in Florida, it's a totally different thing. The doctors can be doctors down here, you know, an older gentleman of mine, went to his doctor and asked his doctor if you should take the vaccine. And the doctor said, Well, let me let me do some workup on your vitamins and your minerals and everything. And the doctor said, oh, yeah, you know, you definitely should go get the vaccine, because you're elderly and you're at risk. But he said first, I'm going to send you to get this cocktail of all kinds of vitamins and minerals. and you're going to go get that two times. And then you're going to go get the first dose and then you're going to go get two more doses of the vitamins. And then you get your second dose. And then you get another shot of vitamins. And, you know, Dr. Lortel, has prescribed ivermectin right on through, he was just on the news the other day, because doctors haven't been allowed to be doctors. But my question is, do you think that if individual doctors were allowed to be their own selves and be doctors during this whole pandemic, that as many people would have died from this? Do you think that would have been the case? If they would have been able to, you know, look at the patient and said, Here's the the issues with this patient? Let's treat them this way. Do you think if that was the case, that there would have been near as many deaths, Dr. Lisa?

Unknown Speaker: 1:25:54

Personally, personally, I don't think it would have been as many deaths, if they were, if they were permitted to give other alternatives in addition to what they were doing. I'm not saying I'm against the hospitals, or the doctors, I don't want that to come across. I'm just saying I'm against only doing things one way. So I think that there were other alternatives that could have been given to assist what they were doing. And it would have cost it would have cost, I would I don't think as many people want to die. I see people panicked on those ventilators. I just, I just that part right? There is what bothers me the most is that they just kept putting people in these damn ventilators,

Jerry Malcolm: 1:26:39

you know, you know what, though? I'm gonna tell you what I think. I think there's no absolute but I do think that doctors specialize in what they specialize in. I don't think doctors specialize in natural Pathak medicine. I don't think that's their focus. I don't think that that's that they went through extensive training the way they do for whatever their particular profession, or their specialty is, you know, you know, whatever they do. So I think in order to really understand that and get the full effectiveness of it, you got to go to somebody that does their thing, like literally, all they focus on is that it's just like, you can't take your Tesla to a to a Toyota mechanic to fix it. He can't fix it, even though he can fix cars, though, because it's a completely different system, that completely different setup. So I don't think it's just that, could the doctors have opened up if they'd have been able to? I don't think that the doctors are able to focus so much on that natural stuff. As far as your gut health, is it a cure? Well, prevention, to an extent can almost resemble a cure? Because if you can make yourself have a bit stronger fortress, it will be more difficult for you to catch that. And it's hard is is what, Jonathan? No. It's not necessarily, like once again, do I feel secure? No, I do not feel as secure for COVID. Do I truly believe with all my heart, that if everybody gets more sleep, removes stress, exercise more, work on their gut health and get better nutrition? Will it be harder to catch a virus? I believe that with all my heart, and I believe there's science to back that up also. So go ahead, Jonathan. Yeah.

Jonathan Bing: 1:28:32

You guys are putting a lot of vitamin D. Okay. Yeah, no, it's

Unknown Speaker: 1:28:37

not vitamin D. Jonathan. It's not just but it's not vitamin D. Okay, come on. We're talking about we're talking about over all immune health. We're not just talking about one thing, vitamin

Jerry Malcolm: 1:28:51

once. One second one's overall, a one second for second brokers, because your mic is louder, Greg Johnson.

Jonathan Bing: 1:29:01

Now, once again, again, bro, you're gone. And what I want to say is this right here, I would say that you guys are putting too much stock in this natural remedy to get one good health healthy in a court. That's gonna help a lot of people. So you guys are seeing some of this audience. But once again, and healthy eating was stopped where it was not every damn thing. I've seen runners. Okay, marathon runners, we've seen the best athletes in the world get fucking cancer. Okay, I get all kinds of shit. I and then add a turn to what regular medicine the treat dads. So let's stop pretending here guys, that natural remedies is to be on and off and tell my son, hey, you know, taking care of yourself. You know, it's just like a cure. You know? It's not a fucking care. Okay. Taking care of yourself isn't as extraordinary as normal. Again taking care of yourself as required. And then guess what? We will be having a guide They're popping up right now

Jerry Malcolm: 1:30:08

wait one second. Let me say, Wait one second, one second, one second. One second. I was not referring to good good eating and and, and and having the proper nutrition can stop cancer. I keep saying the word virus, virus virus and Coronavirus, for example, colds and flu. And there are people, studies show science shows that people can live a longer, more fulfilled life with better nutrition, better exercise, and it's not just about eating right, it's about knowing what your proper levels are, because you can eat good. And your levels, you can still have deficiencies, and the only way you will know that is through proper bloodwork and different tests that they do. And then you fill those slots there's people is and I'm gonna tell you some until you research vitamin D, then didn't didn't you got to go a little deeper and understand the power of having the proper levels of vitamin D and other things in your system. And I'm just saying like, I put a lot of energy and and research time and money into that. So I'm not just on stages throwing that out there. It makes a difference.

Jonathan Bing: 1:31:15

I do I understand the importance of vitamin D. Okay, what was what was happening here and people listening to this, and then taking that guy do some miracle cure all. Okay, and I HIV is a virus. Okay, let's not forget HIV is a virus. So when you guys are making a broad statement that you make it, I

Unknown Speaker: 1:31:35

can be surprised, surprised as well.

Unknown Speaker: 1:31:39

Exactly. With profit.

Unknown Speaker: 1:31:44

Taking care of yourself, even HIV, a lot of people are surprising it. That's a fact.

Unknown Speaker: 1:31:51

HIV new backs coming out because the verge 1x. Two causes HIV like symptoms were low white blood cell count, you can get sick from anything at that point.

Jonathan Bing: 1:32:05

This has become a dangerous.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:32:09

Not not not No, no, no. One second one second, one second. No, let me know, let me make this clear, just in case is being missed. Nobody's saying Jonathan. Or at least I'm not saying at least I'm not saying let me just say this? Or do you want to? Well, let me say what I'm saying. I can speak what I'm saying. I'm not saying that. Natural will cure everything and stop everything I'm saying natural will help tremendously. So let's just say that and these people are just saying what they believe is their is their reality. Oh, go ahead, Jonathan.

Unknown Speaker: 1:32:45

We all like to take care of ourselves, and nobody can hate us how to take care of ourselves. So we know immune system to be better way of fighting the virus or, you know, be taking like a preventative measure. It feels like when we hear this kind of idea in this kind of room. Like it's dangerous. Why is it dangerous to take care of myself, my gut health and so on and so forth? Why would it be like a misinformation or a dangerous information? It's a good information. A lot of people should take care of their guts. And they will see even on their own their own skin, their skin start to radiate. That's like the fact.

Unknown Speaker: 1:33:29

Can I say something?

Jerry Malcolm: 1:33:30

Yes, go ahead. I agree with professionals.

Unknown Speaker: 1:33:38

I'm a registered nurse. Jonathan, I agree with you and I agree with Jerry. Medicine has its place and natural medicine, natural remedies has its place in a medical in the medical fraternity. They do not do a lot of often. Unconventional therapy, some doctors are now linking both and doing alternative. And when you go into their practice, they will actually offer you by telling you to change your diet, change your lifestyle, and then you can get off medications and all of that. Now when you were talking about vitamin D, vitamin B, it's not a killer. Vitamin D is prophylactic and what does that mean is that you get that vitamin D prior to a vitamin D and it's not only vitamin D, it's vitamin C also. So basically our bodies are made up of trace minerals, manganese, selenium, vitamin D, vitamin C, vitamin B, all these vitamins one of the biggest thing is our nutrition presently diminishes the trace minerals because there's those are called trace minerals. So our our food intake, it actually diminishes our trace mineral then leads us to diabetes, hypertension, cancers, name it, as Jonathan was, was alluding to, that, hey, I know people that are help feed, you know, and they get cancer. Yes they can because they're lacking trace mineral when you have COVID. What it is, is that your immunity is low. Now, are you going to get vitamin D to cure it? Absolutely not. It cannot be that at that time, however, why Michael can say that he's doing whatever he's doing. And he's not having any symptoms, working with people. And because his immune system is excellent. His microbiome, which is his gut function is good, therefore, that words of all infection, all viruses and all of that. So I totally agree with what Jerry saying, I totally agree with what Jonathan is saying. You're absolutely right. When you get cancer, you cannot kill us vitamin C to cure it then. Right? You can work and yes, it kills cancer, but you have to cut sugar. You have to manage your stress. You have to build your microbiome, which is your gut flora and get your good immune to fight and kill cancer. And I read my plane Thank you.

Jonathan Bing: 1:36:00

Hey, you know, Mike, and you want to press it? Smallpox lab Okay. Without without anything on I said she said she could do all that shit. I because you guys have a cabbage and some dumb shit. So you're immune to viruses? Small blocks.

Unknown Speaker: 1:36:15

No, Jonathan? Jonathan, I'm not saying you're immune. What is the big difference? It's good. When you build your immune, Jonathan, you will ward off diseases. What it is, Jonathan is our diet, high levels of sugar causes you know what feeds cancer. Jonathan? I'm an 18 year breast cancer survivor. 18 years and stage four. And guess what? I went natural. Being a nurse taught nurses. And I went natural along with my chemotherapy and radiation. I didn't do one and not the other. I did both. I did the a junk therapy. And then I did the natural and basically, hey, they both work together. I did large doses of vitamin C, I did my vitamin D. I did. My doctor is saying like we thought you were gonna we're gonna lose you what happened? But then I did not disclose my doctor. But I went the other way. Because he would he would not believe that. He will. He did when I said to him, What do you think of vitamin C? He said it doesn't work. So I didn't I didn't talk with him. I went and I did what I did. And I did my other side. So it does nobody saying it is a cure. But they work conjunct in conjunction with each other together and get

Jonathan Bing: 1:37:26

zactly once again, again, once again. Okay, what I said. And I said again, for you guys just exactly people is that I said medical doctors acknowledges that natural remedies has a place. You guys don't. Okay. And everyone's here trying to prove that their goddamn doctor on site, and they know what's damn best. All right, everyone up here talking about oh, I take this. I take that. Oh, that works. Doctors don't want you to know this. Okay. Doctors are not pharmaceutical companies. I repeat. Doctors are not pharmaceutical companies. We know we know. Joe. So when you guys are sitting at like doctors are beating you guys killed. Okay. You get paid. And then it can't. Okay. That was out long. Okay, they're not following. You guys are pushing the

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:19

narrative. Nobody breaks the law.

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:24

Jonathan, Jonathan, I have I have medical doctors that were my client who got sick from COVID and didn't want to use what they were forced to push on the population. Medical doctors out of my clients my man.

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:37

anecdotal. You ain't got no proof of them people. Where are they at?

Jonathan Bing: 1:38:41

Yeah, you know? Absolutely. You guys are ridiculous. You guys are incorrect. You guys are wrong. I

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:47

know Jonathan.

Unknown Speaker: 1:38:51

Hey, guys to see rock listen up. So to pharmaceutical companies and doctors are not the same thing. But I will tell you that there are doctors out there that go for the easy route. My grandmother was prescribed a lot of medication for antidepressants, anxiety, and over prescribed because it was the easy route rather than going after routes that would work for her. So they will prescribe things to go the easy route. Sometimes I'm not gonna say all doctors are like that, but a lot are you okay?

Unknown Speaker: 1:39:27

Yep. Hi, Jerry. Hi, Jonathan. Um, my name is Tammy. And this is my first time sharing on the stage. I'm based in New York and I avoided getting COVID for two years. However, I went on a trip to Las Vegas, February 24 came back a couple of days later, I found out that I had upon getting that information. I was almost at 102 Fever. I boiled some and again this is every case of course. individually to the person, but things that helped me get over it and each day there was some new symptom presented itself. I did up my zinc, my cod liver oil, vitamin D, oil of oregano, Ginger Pedialyte, stayed hydrated and in conjunction with keeping hydrated drink a lot of fluids, I was able to get over it. But again, each case is different. And I think if you work in conjunction with medicine, and natural, you can try and get through this thing. And each one is individual. So I yield my mic there. And thank you very much. And everyone have a really great evening.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:40:41

Thank you very Jeremy, I got something. Go ahead, sir.

Unknown Speaker: 1:40:44

We thought ah, yeah, thank you. Let's go back to the main facts, it is a question is about trust the medical organizations or medical buddy. And here we just say can we trust 100%? Do countless anything 100%. But really, you know, if one fact is that the average life of people increase along last 100 year because of the development in medical field. So they did very good job, there is money, there is money, they want to make profit, yes. But we cannot say that everything can be a conspiracy, about COVID. It is a new virus. So one doctor, even if he is specialized, he cannot tell what may happen and how to deal with it just needs a lot of scientific research groups to tour together and attend now, they cannot say that we found the solution. It's impossible to do it in two years. And he knows he couldn't find something for the simple flu. Because for viruses is very difficult to deal with it. Indeed, I am in Austria, and we use FFP to mask I think it is like this in 95 You talk about and here we should look to Xena bars, the number of cells that like unfortunately, that some countries like I'm just yesterday was looking the death rate because of COVID in the US is closer to 3000 per million in Austria is 1600. And in New Zealand is 30. This bear 1 million because of COVID. So when we compare many countries, and we see which measures they use, we will see indeed, in most successful countries where New Zealand, Australia, South Korea, and Japan they did very good policy. But I hear I understand that people are angry of government policies, because in many countries in Europe, too. They used it for political things. They were all the time looking to the next election. And they didn't really make a solid roadmap to fight this virus. Indeed, we are just lucky is that the latest mutation of virus this one micron is not a strong. It's spread very fast around but it is not strong. But this is just good luck. What if it was even worse than the original one. So here we don't have a choice we we need to trust to certain degrees the medical body as the medical body does not mean this professor or this doctor or this news channel, or what happened was me indeed me myself. I had vaccinated three times three shots, whatever. And here my family they my sister and her two kids and her husband, I am with them every day. So they were infected. They got it. I didn't I say I just was lucky. Not because of course trying to keep health but natural treatment will never increase Z life average of people see a problem I see it. It is the media, the trust, it is everywhere. People don't trust government don't trust scientific bodies, organizations. And even you know now we were talking about the news about a crane. Again, people don't trust the news everywhere. This is this is a main problem. But with Corona, I would go to the numbers devisee big numbers to compare not on my personal experience by personal experience. And what people tell me. It's proof that it is not true in most cases with with many disease even even with Cancer, sometimes you hear someone was suddenly, well, nothing. Cancer is gone. Why? Doctors cannot tell you why it is the probability is one to one to 10 million to may happen. Does it mean that everyone has it will can go without going to hospitals and take the medical care? No. This is the main thing indeed. We need to go to the basic facts and go through what we have. Thank you.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:45:36

Thank you. Anybody else want to jump in?

Unknown Speaker: 1:45:39

Yeah, well, I just want to tell Jonathan, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Because if you took the vaccine, then you shouldn't be worried. And Jerry, respectfully, Hey, Jonathan. Jerry, I love you guys. But I got a rebuttal. And Jerry, you brought up the you don't want someone speaking over your food, or and then Debbie said you don't want someone spitting over your food. We wouldn't want that pre Corona. We don't want somebody speaking over food, or talking over food or spitting on their food before Coronavirus started. So I don't know where that was going. But if you guys are so worried about your food, didn't make your own food at home, and let the unvaccinated people not take the vaccine live their life, because these are constitutions in America and Africa. So we got our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. So if you want to take it, you take it. I don't have to take it. And then

Jerry Malcolm: 1:46:29

if I want to take it meaning Jerry, if I want to take it take what?

Unknown Speaker: 1:46:33

Well, you're on vaccinated Jerry. But I'm just saying, if Josh shouldn't be worried, because I don't know if he's doe vaccinated, or if he took his booster, I'm not sure. But he brought up dos Anjos and he said he killed a lot of people. Do you guys know where the Super Bowl was? This past couple of weeks ago? Los Angeles? And what about Newsom he allows 70,000 people in an arena. So you can be outside, but you can be inside and be around people with 70,000 people. So I just feel like you know, we got to talk about all these things. If you want to have your cake. You can eat it too. Jonathan Allameh.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:47:14

Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother. So, um, so where are we at right now? This is this is interesting, though. Does anybody think that COVID is going to go back to where it was? Like as far as how hard it was hitting about, say six months ago? Seven months? Do y'all think because they loosened up a little bit? This is going to actually get back to where it was? Yes.

Unknown Speaker: 1:47:36

Yeah, absolutely. And I see here in Toronto, apparently the sub variant is making up half of the infections and obviously now it's March Break. More people are commingling inside and outside. But here in Toronto, they're planning on lifting mask mandates on March the 21st. So I have a feeling we're going to go back on lockdown. Mind you. I only live half my time here half in Dubai, in Dubai, like COVID doesn't seem to be a problem, you know, and I wasn't wearing a mask for the past since February 4 Up until last week. And I'm alive. I mean, I'm not saying COVID is fake. But on the flip side, my partner's a physician. He gets exposure to positive patients all the time. And why is why has he not caught it? And why have I not like Why haven't I caught it? So I definitely have a lot of questions around this shit.

Unknown Speaker: 1:48:37

Yeah, the the death rate amongst the medical staff is much less after the vaccination. You know, what about your question Jerry? Is that to know why Corona was so difficult because you remember what Bill Gates said in 2015. And then there was a conspiracy theories that we have gets indeed to us be who made via Corona because he predicted about the virus. And it is very non scientifically is that every 2030 years maybe it's serious a new virus will come here which can go to human bodies and may be bad for the human but this might maybe not this circumstance and HR. But before in for 1000s of years we will live in fear it because always it was in one geographic area and we will didn't move a lot. I was checking the numbers. In 1970. There was 4 million passengers around the world, just 4 million in 1970. But in 2019 the number of passengers was 4000 500 million procedures because now we are moving a lot so there is no no local disease. Now they move fairly quickly. and it is you it is not local anymore. So this may have been in 20 or 30 years and these are big question is, is any government did any government ladies see that the angel coming and they would be ready, or again, we will go to the same troubles with COVID. Because with COVID, we found out all health system, were really not in a good shape, not in any country. So the question is, what about the next and this is the main question like many other challenges, or payables should not move a lot around.

Unknown Speaker: 1:50:43

I think we're dead wrong there. We COVID I mean, we got to look at the new generation and what we bring to the table. We can't look at yesterday's mistakes and look at COVID like it hasn't been a somewhat of a hoax because it doesn't make sense that the UN nations have COVID and the free world is living life. It doesn't make sense.

Unknown Speaker: 1:51:07

Miko that is nonsense. I just came back from a place from Nevada where they don't have mask on and that's how I caught COVID. Just

Unknown Speaker: 1:51:14

did you say Nevada? Yes,

Unknown Speaker: 1:51:18

I went to Las Vegas to a concert. Like I

Unknown Speaker: 1:51:20

said, United Nations United States is a part of the United Nations where COVID is a controlling thing. Do you know I said that the other side of the world that doesn't go under the UN cloak

Jerry Malcolm: 1:51:37

I'm sorry, glare brother was the last thing you said.

Unknown Speaker: 1:51:40

The United Nations countries who are all a part of this. I will say globalist like agenda. You know, the globalists are pushing COVID and the vaccine the free part of the world they're living.

Jonathan Bing: 1:51:55

Yeah, this is bullshit. And

Unknown Speaker: 1:51:57

Jonathan Jonathan, let me finish man. Because it seems like you're paid by by this this narrative because we're debating your narrative. Jonathan.

Jonathan Bing: 1:52:07

You guys, you guys all talking about this stuff is not real. Okay. You're not debating my man. My narrative. Okay. Hey, Jonathan. I

Jerry Malcolm: 1:52:14

did. One second one second. Wait, wait. John thing I say some John's your mic. Your mic is much lower than theirs. They're talking over you. Your mic is low. A when Johnson is trying to talk, let them talk because his mic is much lower. Greg Johnson.

Jonathan Bing: 1:52:28

No, all I'm saying Jerry and I'll pick that mic problem right now. All I'm saying is I'm putting out dangerous information, talking about the global gold bug list strategy. Okay, like here we are fighting rushes in the war, but yet they're brought they're there. They're sitting with us trying to figure out how to infect the whole damn world. COVID I mean, it's crazy the narrative that you guys put out there, we can't even get China to agree not to lend money. But yeah, you know, to Russia during the war, or give money on weapons. But guess what, we can convince them to kill their population. The bullshit y'all come up with is crazy. And the people that sit on you got their moderators that sitting on the stage keep your mouth shut whether you're for or against this you guys are pitiful. Jerry need to consider who we might from now on because they're sitting up here and they don't say a goddamn thing.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:53:18

I don't get it. Don't get Yeah, Gary Come on. Yeah, don't get it's like this is about what storm was jumping in. But I don't get it. This is about participating. Like, not just any on stage. I'm confused. But yeah, so

Unknown Speaker: 1:53:31

come on. It sounds like you're on the payroll. Gates and yeah, I'm probably

Jerry Malcolm: 1:53:39

don't know but my mic don't don't go there bro. Don't don't listen. Mica just because he doesn't agree with you know, that's what this is for debating. But but don't don't don't go there. Dangerous.

Jonathan Bing: 1:53:55

Probably need to go to payroll worse than I do. Trust me. I'm all right. All right. You need to you need to get there. You need to get there.

Unknown Speaker: 1:54:04

Hey, Jonathan, I want to tell you one thing, irony. I made a small video collected what people say about COVID last year from many countries. And the same story in China they were talking about it is American made virus against the Chinese and in Iran. Iranian officials were telling that it is American Made in America Trump said no it is a Chinese in buys away in Russia in Division One of this their TV channels big ones they were saying it is American and it is named Corona because of Trump like the woman with the crown.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:54:54

Okay, okay, bro. Okay, bro bro, bro, bro. That's that's that's a little bit much right now. Because Trump like the woman with the crown, did you just say that? Not me. I misunderstand him.

Unknown Speaker: 1:55:07

No, no, I said that I tell you about this conspiracy idea.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:55:15

way you said it's a conspiracy? No,

Unknown Speaker: 1:55:18

I won't. I don't want to tell you the conspiracy, how it is different versions. In Russia in Russian TVs, he told me he will like this video from Russian TV. In China, it is the other way. They said again, American and Iranian said So Trump said no, it is a Chinese are now someone saying is Ukrainian. I mean, the story of conspiracy is the same buzzing, you change the target. And here you see how all these stories are going around Bobbsey hours, the same self development tool to say,

Unknown Speaker: 1:56:00

let me help him with that. Because I think what happens is, you know, we, we know, Corona was real and still is, however, we have gotten mixed messaging on science. We've gotten mixed messaging on what to do protocol wise, that works. We've tried it in different areas, with masks without masks with facts without backs. And still there's no definitive answer. So Jonathan will argue that the only way to go is Vaxxed, lockdown and masks and that's where we know it's completely on the other side. And when we question i no doubt that he is right. And he has the proof in the evidence. However, we have other proof and evidence on our side. So there's two different sides to the same issue. The messaging is mixed up. It's screwed up. And nobody really knows the truth. So frankly, I don't think I'm right, or Jonathan's right, I think it's somewhere in the middle. And what sucks is nobody can get that conveyed consistently across the United States that we're all pointing fingers and I rest

Jerry Malcolm: 1:56:56

100% percent, none of us know that. Go ahead, bro. Go ahead and watch me go ahead. Go ahead. And I know it's gonna ask too much of one of these moderators

Unknown Speaker: 1:57:08

that I wasn't jumping in I was just saying love that that none of us really know. Let's just you know, not point fingers. Just try and find your your truth. Find that feel that find a happy medium. Don't name call and know that none of us truly know that's so I love what storm was saying.

Unknown Speaker: 1:57:25

Yesterday storm, I echo those comments that's dead on. And I'll tell you one thing. I was watching the news in Egypt last Monday. And what they're preaching on the news is very different than what they're preaching here in Canada. And it's really scary. Like, we just don't know what's real anymore. And we just have to educate ourselves, do your own research, come up with your own little ideas, whatever it may be with some education and some reading behind it and roll with it, and respect that we're all going to have different opinions. You know what I mean? And that's how we learn from each other by having an open mind and having great critical thinking and asking questions.

Jerry Malcolm: 1:57:59

Okay, I've been glitching a little bit with chat, but I'm gonna go ahead and open it again right now. So chat is open. I don't know what it is everybody. I wish I could, you know, fix it. But when I put chat on for some reason, it just starts to glitch and I can't scroll and going back channel or anything. So I'm gonna try my best to see if it'll work right now. So if I cut it off, that's why we cut it off. We would love to keep it on the whole show. So I want to thank everybody. Once again, it's joined the debate the news club. If you haven't done so already, click that little green house at the top and become a member of the club. And for those that aren't aware yet, debate, the news is a podcast. We go live five days a week, you can catch our previous episodes, our past episodes, our current episodes, and future episodes at debate the news.com on your favorite podcast, whether it's apple, Spotify, what's the other ones? You guys know the other ones, whatever podcast channel you listen to, you will be able to go download the Beta news. We're absolutely everywhere. Is there anybody this came to the stage? Yes, sir. Jerry conversation. I don't know what it is what you people on this stage today. You're like a bunch of mice and mouse. I want to jump

Unknown Speaker: 1:59:10

in there. It's there, Greg? Derek. Yeah, I just had to jump in. Man. I was in audience listening and stuff. And I appreciate you for Derek. You know, man, somebody's talking about a hoax. COVID is a hoax. And, you know, just to allude to that type of argument. I just think it's absolutely crazy man. People are here dying. I've seen people dying, and to say is a hoax. And what happened was, you know, the guy gradually pushed it to that because I do believe that you got to take the vitamins and be healthy and get a bit of good weight and keep yourself up. That makes a strong, healthy immune system. But yet we do know that there's some people who have strong milchem healthy immune systems, and Kobe still ravaged their body. But it's not it's not to say not to keep yourself healthy. But we understand that if you get COVID You know a certain point. sickness, you need medicines to help you, you know? And so it isn't the end all be all just to prevention because some people haven't prevented have they haven't taken the accurate the right Prevention's in order to fight off the virus. So what do we do is let them die? No, we try to come up with answers. So, I agree with Jonathan saying that, you know, it's a lot of stuff people are setting the stage, that just isn't accurate. That whole thing about a hoax. It's crazy, man. That's crazy. You know, I'm on Mike. Because Derek,

Unknown Speaker: 2:00:27

Derek, there's something I want to add on to though. And I think this is really important to be healthy long term is not just to start some habits, and to do everything. And we really don't know by looking at someone who's truly healthy or not. So if we've learned anything from this, and I know Jerry learned it firsthand, I learned it firsthand is take care of your immune system and take care of your body, not just for a season, but for the rest of your life. If you want to be have a strong immune system, I don't think a mask helps the immune system, I don't think vaccination helps the immune system, it might the science might say otherwise. However, I've seen both sides of the coin, once you've seen the heads and the tails, you have to far outweigh what works best for you risk wise. Now, one of the things I'm hoping everybody in this room understands, you're not going to be healthy overnight, and vitamin D is not going to be the end all cure all. There's cancers out there, there are going to be other viruses out there. And so what you make decision wise that you put into your body, whether it be food, whether it be water, whether it be Coke, whether it be root beer, it's important to know what that's going to do to your body or for your body. And I think that's what everybody's missing here. We're I don't think anybody is claiming. And if you are, I'm sorry, I don't think COVID is a hoax. I think it was a great wake up call for us to understand exactly how serious something can be if your body is being attacked by an infection. So what I say to that, and here's how I land understand that the choices that we made maybe six months ago because we were scared of it are not the same choices that we're making today because we feel more comfortable and mediocre being able to let loose on fast food or eating out or having somebody talk over your food and not know what goes in it. I would just say this, it was a big wake up call for me and I'm going back to preparing my own food, taking my blood work seriously making sure that I'm doing everything that I can to be as preventative as possible because it's not if it's when it's when the next thing attacks my body whether it be the flu, whether it be another COVID strain or whether it be another infection your body is constantly attacked to take care of it now and take care of it from now on instead of just make it seasonal without land

Jerry Malcolm: 2:02:36

I agree with you once here we go again everyone I'm about to cut the chat off I can't even navigate on the app right now this chat is ridiculous they got to fix this so I got to cut it off everybody sorry about that for everyone listen to it. But um damn app is glitching somebody wants to jump in.

Unknown Speaker: 2:02:53

Yeah, well yeah, I kind of want to respond a little to storm and I mean I do believe in like I said before about being healthy beforehand um, but I'm not sure if you said it now or in the past but earlier in the conversation but I do believe masks are preventative and I believe that they work that's that's that's that's where I stand man. I mean it's in the sciences proved that you know, people talk about the virus being smaller than what the masking guard against but it's attached to us. And so, you know, I believe that masks are preventative and that's another thing that we need to continue to believe so this is

Jerry Malcolm: 2:03:33

the only the only thing to Derek what he's also kind of saying I agree with you bro and I'm sure you mean the correct math I'm sure you don't mean just yes sir Yes sir. Yeah, but but the one thing I always tell people is a lot of people change as a reaction instead of a upfront choice and for all the people that have died from you know many things it will make a big difference if you just like change today when I'm when I'm seven or eight pounds heavier than I like to be because I used to compete and fight and so when I'm at my fighting weight, I feel like I can fly you know it makes me wake up better makes me sleep better makes me run better makes me exercise better. So when I'm eating but I just feel so much more healthy. So I think that's kind of what storm is also saying about I don't think I'm not taking it like some I'm not taking that storm and saying oh it's an absolute if you do this that that is not going to catch it. I think he's just saying you know, overall help will make it harder for certain viruses to penetrate your guards. And if it does get through it may not be as as as harsh to you if your natural body was fighting a little better for you mad you got a bunch of weapons inside of your body. You know like a fortress. Do you agree with that? Derek does that sound crazy to you did that the healthier you are you leveled I mean do you believe that that can help you with viruses? Derek Are you think like yes,

Unknown Speaker: 2:04:56

I do agree with that. I you know I said earlier and I do agree with it. Um Oh. We do still have those, those cases where people are really healthy and it still ravaged the body. But that still doesn't mean that we negate being healthy. So I do agree with that, right. But

Jerry Malcolm: 2:05:08

let's say if a million people, let's just make up a virus that we call it the a BBB virus, right? Let's say if it went through a million people, if most of those people were more healthy and focused on gut health and optimal levels, don't you think it would be? Or do you agree lesser people probably wouldn't even know, healthy people do you know perish from viruses? But do you agree we'll be lesser people, if more of America's more healthy? Do you agree with that? I agree. Yep. Okay, so we say we saying the same thing, bro. And this is coming from a guy who had COVID and thought I was, like, never gonna be the same. So I am not ever, ever going to come on this app and act like COVID is fake. And in some conspiracy, absolutely not. So thank you for that. Derek. Anybody else want to jump in? Oh, yeah. What's up, Jared? What's up? Who's that? Amir? No, this is yes, that's my boy. Oh, who said What's up? Jerry?

Unknown Speaker: 2:06:04

I was africaine. With someone eyes.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:06:07

Go ahead. Wherever sir. What's up, Jerry? Great.

Unknown Speaker: 2:06:10

Yeah, Jerry, this is Africa King. Row name is a most, you know, shout out to you guys. You know, I always tune in. And it's interesting to just hear the different perspectives. So one thing I would like to say is that I think it varies from person to person, you know, I don't think anybody on the stage is wrong. But the one thing that I can say about myself, is that my entire life, I've been pretty active. You know, I'm born and raised in West Africa. So I play soccer my entire life. No, I'm not saying that. That made me immune to a lot of different things. But I know that maintaining a certain lifestyle, even being more like organic base, when it comes to even being a farmer, you know, that's those are things that I'm into. So I'm somebody that I can't just go to a grocery store and just pick anything, you know, I'm big on labeling. So I think a combination of different factors over my life has made it where it's harder for me to get sick. So I'm not saying that COVID isn't real, because I saw a lot of people get sick that I was around. But I never once called COVID. And I can attribute it to the fact that I'm just building my immune system over the years. My mother always put me on bitters. Growing up. It was just something that's on, like common knowledge where I'm from, that anything sweet, you know, usually depletes your system. But when you're talking about bitters, you know, people don't like stuff that's bitters for you, if you're talking about those grains, especially in different combinations, I believe that it works miracles. Um, one of the main things that I have always consistently had in my diet growing up is called soursop bitters. Now, if you notice, the fruit itself soursop it's an anti inflammatory, you know, so when you're dealing with cancers, you know, different things. I'm not saying it's secure, and all of those. But like I said, if you're taking it consistently over time, I just feel like it helps increase your levels as to where certain diseases viruses, it won't affect you. The way that it will everybody else. Now, I can only just speak for myself because

Jerry Malcolm: 2:08:19

you have a more defense. That's because you have more of a defense built up, bro.

Jonathan Bing: 2:08:24

Jerry, do you know what that is? And we're talking. Now, we're endorsing it by saying, oh, that's because you have more than you really know what that is. Do you know that?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:08:35

I wasn't no, no, no, he No. Jonathan, you picked one part of his story. He said he labels he says he eats organic. He said he plays soccer. He says he exercises. He says he said many things that had to do with nutrition, proper nutrition. It he that one thing he was talking about? I wasn't picking on that I'm just on my overall journey will make a difference.

Unknown Speaker: 2:08:56

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And what I mentioned with bitters, you know, that's just something that I take for myself, and that my parents, you know, took growing up, and I subscribe to it, because I know that it helps with gut health. And if anybody know, in terms of

Jerry Malcolm: 2:09:13

course, brothers, earlier, gut health makes a big deal that,

Unknown Speaker: 2:09:17

yeah, your stomach is pretty much like your brain.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:09:21

That's a room. That's a room in itself. Matter of fact, I'm probably gonna pull some experts in laptop on gut health. And it's gonna, it's that's next level stuff. When you find good help,

Unknown Speaker: 2:09:31

no doubt, and I think we should definitely pay more people in the room, man, because I know what's up with our moderators today. And shout out to y'all, you know, because I really enjoy coming in here and listening. And I think we should definitely share this room too. You know, there are about I don't know how many people in here right now almost 400 people, but we've got like 114 shares, man, so we got to do better, especially with these people who are coming together and putting this show together for us every night. So shout out to you, Jerry. Jonathan, even though I agree with you a lot of times but you Oh, my do.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:10:01

I appreciate you for that, bro. Thank you. Appreciate you.

Unknown Speaker: 2:10:05

Hey, just got a little bit of breaking news. I

Jerry Malcolm: 2:10:07

don't know if you're okay with that just let me yes I do. What's the breaking news.

Unknown Speaker: 2:10:10

So here in New York City years ago when the last mayor I forget his name. Bloomberg in state A and state is something called a stop and frisk was later found the stop effects was unconstitutional. Our new mayor, good old Eric Adams, who has my main carry on the bench has just announced the return of stop and frisk all last month, they were training officers, and they're about to hit the street. And they're gonna start stopping these young men of color and start patting them down looking for guns. Wow.

Jonathan Bing: 2:10:45

My mom, woman, one woman first and foremost by I don't believe that you sentences and documentation because I went to court. Okay. The courts founded unconstant. I know,

Unknown Speaker: 2:10:55

Shiloh and I just looked at I'll send you some I just looked it up. My wife told me I looked it up. And it's coming back, bro, I'll send it to you.

Jonathan Bing: 2:11:02

Again, constitutional, how they bring it back. Once again. So those are things that we have to be aware of. I went to the courts guys that said that they just stopped doing it. And went to the courts and the courts found Einstein unconstitutional, because what it was doing was profiling black and brown people. So now you said oh, we have another mayor. I knew mayor, black Mayor Eric. He's bringing it back. And everybody's like, wow, without no one ounce of research, or anything. And that's it. You guys do COVID by the way.

Unknown Speaker: 2:11:45

Yeah, this is Christian. The whole reason that I said, wow is, you know, when we get it when we get into rooms, and we start talking about issues that are important, and the conversation then goes into what's happening with police, and the neighborhood or the community. And then we start getting into other topics, too, to hear that there is a particular mayor of a particular race that is now looking to tighten things up from the perspective of ensuring that the community is safe. I think that's saying something. And I don't know what it's saying. But it's definitely, it's definitely saying that there are issues that need to be addressed. But maybe just maybe another form. And let's not even say it is stopping first, let's just say it's another form of stop and frisk, because a lot of times when a court makes a ruling, they may strike down a part of the policy, but maybe not all of the policy or all of the rule or regulation. And I just think there's a lot more that can be done, then just by simply saying, well, we need to just start checking everybody that comes in and out of the neighborhood or in and out of the community or in and out of the city. There's a lot more that can be done than that than to just stop someone and and find out or basically a basically a Papers, Please, on any and all people whether they're citizens or not. I think there's a much better policy than that.

Jonathan Bing: 2:13:46

All right, Christian, it's crazy. We said that court a lot. And then we went on, we had this long dial dialogue about it. There's so let me just say this, man. All right. Not only the cool outline, the city had a massive sums in terms of loss. Okay, because the stop and frisk, right. And so, you know, the gentlemen and I believe he's coming from a good place, we hear rumors, and we like, Oh, my God is breaking news, I'm going to make and break it. And then people here and then a spread, but when you look at it, given the community, given the time that we're in right now, okay, where there's been such a high profile, I mean, that's like a kind of the police interaction with a gentleman, a man of color, personal color happens and the likelihood that is the result and, you know, some kind of violence, okay, in terms of a shooting or whatever. But now it's logical that given that environment that that's being highlighted and that we have the cameras out there now, people walk around with their phones, they might have a camera or video camera in their pocket, that they're going to go back to a practice that's going to put more black lives at risk. Okay, so that doesn't even sound right. feasible or logical? And so then that's when we start hearing debate anywhere when someone tells you something, instead of being a sheet and going with it, okay, because you guys call me sheet because I look at the science. I look at data science. That's the difference. I don't care a story. Okay. I look at facts. Okay. And the facts right here just doesn't add up without me knowing

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:26

the propaganda. You're right, Jonathan

Jonathan Bing: 2:15:29

Jozo the facts here doesn't add up without me even looking at it. i You

Unknown Speaker: 2:15:38

Hey, Jonathan, you want to Super Bowl with 70,000 people in California? And you you just what's his name? Go sandals who was a Navy SEAL? And what about Gavin Newsom? allowance? 70,000? I just want to know what your thoughts on that are? Brother respectfully.

Jonathan Bing: 2:15:57

I had no thoughts on that. I'm not. I'm not. I don't have to have a thought on everything. I don't know about it. Fair enough. That's the difference once again, when you when you're being honest.

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:14

Our buyers,

Jonathan Bing: 2:16:15

that's the difference. So that's where I'm at. So back to you, Jerry. I Jerry's gone anyway. Anyone else want to speak on this stuff?

Unknown Speaker: 2:16:30

I do. This is Misty. Sorry, Jonathan. But the difference is DeSantis is a Republican Newsom is a Democrat. I've listened to you guys for several several weeks. I think it's very clear on the political spectrum divide line, whatever you want to call it. Which side of the aisle you tend to gravitate to. So in my opinion, that's the difference is DeSantis is red. Newsom is blue. Cuomo was blue. You know, we don't talk about the mislabeled or now there's 4000 more dead under Cuomo that was unrecorded, because he's blue, not red. So let's not talk about him. But that's my personal opinion. That's the difference.

Jonathan Bing: 2:17:23

Okay, let's not talk about how floater stop by forcing them to report their deaths altogether. Okay, and changed up how they report their deaths. And it was the only state that did that. So when you talk me say stuff like that yet? Alright, Because Florida is the most under unreported state that period manufacturers someone went to Florida and Florida acquired COVID and died in Florida was told not to report it. Again, so less accusations, okay. And then once again, our lien No, I'm a lot more conservative. And you know, what, this brand of conservatism isn't the brand conservatism that I signed up for? Okay, I'm an upper middle class person. Okay, those laws benefit me. And guess what, I love that. But I don't love it at the expense of my fellow person, my fellow Americans. See, I know that I can afford to pay a little bit more so that others can live a halfway decent life. Okay, I'm not. So that's the difference right there. I, I am upper middle class, I have a mortgage company. Okay. And I'm, and I am not afraid to pay a little more so that others can participate in this great country that we have. So as I said earlier, this you guys, this the Republican Party conservatives have become a party of Americans, not Americans, because about self and

Unknown Speaker: 2:18:59

isn't willing to pay a little more.

Unknown Speaker: 2:19:06

I have a question for Jonathan. Actually. It's mostly Sorry, I'm working out. It's mostly people with money, that who cares about more you know about their money. So you might have like a noble idea for the rest of your fellow man to live a better life. So you might settle for an idea that you normally don't gravitate to. But the truth is, people with money, wants to pay less. That's how they get their money in their pocket. So this argument by itself doesn't, doesn't really hold water for me. The truth is,

Jonathan Bing: 2:19:41

when you finish, okay, I came from a family of 12. There's 12 of us. All right, myself, and my sister, my sister's attorney down in DC, I get made out, okay, and the rest of my families are destroyed. struggling, my cousin's are still struggling. Okay, every time I go to visit, let's go into that town and see those struggling. Okay? I tell when you say that, Oh, because you don't line up?

Unknown Speaker: 2:20:14

And I said, No, no, I said, you, you may have like that noble idea. And you care about more people because where you come from, but necessarily people with money, you know, because they have money, they want to have money. So to get more money, you know, to save their money more. So they might gravitate to whichever party is, you know, benefiting them. But the argument here is about, you know, the COVID, about the war about like New York situation that we just heard, you have to come to terms where you have to be able to see to be in order for you to be balanced, you need to see that there is two kinds of, or more than even two to toughts, a narrative that came out backing itself with facts. And the other side seems to have the media, the social media seems to be navigated by certain people. So certain news or certain throughs is, has been suppressed, any still is suppressed. You can I can write about something, and Facebook will like take off my comment instantly and unblock me. But in democracy, even if I'm wrong, I should be allowed. But now we come down to where like, Oh, don't say this here in this room. Because people might tend to go away with this news. And then they will be what would happen. People go back, check the news. And they're like, mislead it, they will come back to the truth. That's a strength. The truth has a way to come out. Regardless, that's why this COVID narrative is not sticking, because there is a lot of flaws. And we have to admit this.

Jonathan Bing: 2:21:59

Okay, what I will admit is this right here, I when you come on to a private platform platform, such as Facebook, Twitter, whatever it is YouTube, whatever it is, that that is not your porch, that's not your front porch.

Unknown Speaker: 2:22:12

Okay, now, like I said, including the media,

Jonathan Bing: 2:22:17

I understand what's going on, you're saying that you're taking off a platform for speaking the truth, that's a private business that you choose to you. And that you don't have to utilize. I'll start with that.

Unknown Speaker: 2:22:28

It's not about me, it's about the public what's, you know, the consumption that, you know, comes from a specific place, it's, it's, it could be CNN, it could be Fox, it could be any, anywhere you want to take your, your, your news, anywhere you want to read it, it could be the New York Times, you know, so on and so forth. Bloomberg, everything is being like suppressed the news are not true anymore. It's biased.

Jonathan Bing: 2:22:52

Once I get so what I'm saying to you, is this your hair? When I say you, I mean people in general, you don't have to use any social media platforms. Okay. In fact, you know, 20 years ago, okay, they weren't here. 1520 years ago, they weren't here. So we got by without you got bombing flow without you guys, all your lives.

Unknown Speaker: 2:23:15

On the social media, I'm talking about the whole media outlet. I'm talking about the outlet.

Jonathan Bing: 2:23:22

Okay, I need to finish what you said a whole bunch of things. Okay. So so now, I that's the first day okay, so when you're talking about does that that's not an American, that someone that owns a business can do pretty well with that business. So that you have to agree to the users the user agreement, that's the way it is check. I'm

Unknown Speaker: 2:23:47

not I'm not accusing them but I'm telling you for you and me when we discuss news has been surprised. Let him finish she's getting to the point to finish.

Jonathan Bing: 2:23:59

What second you said it was unAmerican okay.

Unknown Speaker: 2:24:03

This is another like, you know, criminalizing people or like your time

Jerry Malcolm: 2:24:14

Lydia, Lydia. Lydia. One second. One second. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I was gonna say guys keep saying let them finish. Y'all are making it worse. Greg Johnson if he was trying to say some because your mic is just a little lower today.

Jonathan Bing: 2:24:31

It was linear. So now I can deal with it. Because I'm driving. I am actually heading to Boston. And what I was saying is this right here, Lydia, okay. You're full of shit. Alright, because you've been complaining about someone else's goddamn business. All right. If you don't like what took bit, LOL Twitter, if you don't like what Facebook does kale on Facebook.

Unknown Speaker: 2:24:58

That's not the argument. Jonathan. Then you're going into another route. That's not the argument. I don't use actually Facebook. I don't use any of these outlets. I'm just telling you, sir. Because you're in another direction. I am saying news is not that, you know, it doesn't come out to the public like used to. It has like, there is like gang of people coming and trying to like silence us not to hear the truth. There's no questioning even with COVID It should be refuted if there is like a legitimate truth if someone comes and if he says like, there's no COVID This should be this should be like a platform for that guy to come and refuted if he can, you know, the truth doesn't fear your life, the truth doesn't, doesn't like that just doesn't need to defend to be defended, like we see right now. This is about like, you know, the outlets or the media is sitting here and trying to vet you know, making Fauci and Bill Gates like bigger than they are and these are like the people that we should listen to. No, we don't have to. We don't have to really like Bill Gates. Nice to come with, with like a real science. He doesn't come with red science. He has he comes with agenda. People know now you can't like hold this anymore. I mean, the public is coming to the truth. And we are questioning why is the news suppressed? Why why what's the agenda behind it?

Jonathan Bing: 2:26:31

When he just said What proof do you have anything he just

Unknown Speaker: 2:26:37

said? What do you mean what proof do do I have for what

Unknown Speaker: 2:26:40

God and then she's right and you know, I

Unknown Speaker: 2:26:42

mean? Come on. Like let me just say this Fauci by himself sitting on CNN flip flopping I can give you like, I have my cell

Jonathan Bing: 2:26:58

phone over Bluetooth, so I can go deal with you because you like talking over me on a Bluetooth and my mic was low. So let me just say this to you and I had to pull over on the highway to deal with this shit. Alright, now the bullshit you're saying because you brought up social media? You said it was American that they kick you off when you say something all right. Well, and I was trying to deal with that and you kept cutting me off Okay, actually had to pull over to turn off the freakin car. So I can take it off Bluetooth to talk to you. Because no, no, no, no. So when you say all the things that you said it's bullshit. You have no proof from a Bill Gates yet

Unknown Speaker: 2:27:42

who knows people are dying

Unknown Speaker: 2:27:52

to train one thing that he said is

Unknown Speaker: 2:27:55

Bill Gates. Bill Gates bought a boat propagates his own his own idea of vaccine

Jonathan Bing: 2:28:09

by the group what Bill Gates did that

Unknown Speaker: 2:28:13

impacts you right now. Like, I can inbox you right now. Not one. Not one. But I'll take numbers of like firstly, let me say this No, I'm not joking. It's COVID to be true. If COVID is here, and okay, let's say it's true. Okay. Okay. Okay, let me just say this. If if that's the case, why does Bill Gates dictate us dictate it? He doesn't know shit about virus. You go to Africa go to India and find out what he did. This guy is a murderer who should be like hold by the height where I come from I know what he did to contraception

Jonathan Bing: 2:29:14

you right doesn't mean he's right.

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:16

That's that's why I'm like confident saying what I'm saying. You know, you

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:21

know, save your breath. You can't win. Just Lydia

Unknown Speaker: 2:29:28

was just getting like, you know, nauseating people are tired of this like narrative where you have to tell them, you know, we need to listen to Fauci. We need to listen to what we have, we can use our own brain we can use the science. We can listen to both sides and decide for ourselves, you know, yeah, you should be what you shouldn't be worried you have enough money. You can even like you know, go to the best doctor, why are you here and propagating day in and day out for us like To take boxing, it's an experiment of boxing

Jonathan Bing: 2:30:04

one second. One second. Okay, I'm not here day to day propagating anything I don't bring this shit up. I respond, okay, I don't bring anything up. I respond to the misinformation that you guys put out. So let's get I don't come in here. Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 2:30:22

I will tell you this I will tell everybody here to go and and watch on and bitchute the sequel to the fall of the kebab. Please watch it. Go yourself and check it, check the news yourself. You will find the truth you will come to the truth, the sequel to the fall of the Cabal. And what I learned here

Jonathan Bing: 2:30:51

I'm Landon I want to move on to someone else because this is just this bullshit has been put out. But

Unknown Speaker: 2:30:57

yeah, this person. Just Just one quick thing. So on that stop and frisk. The case is actually still open. It's an active case from 2013. And that's still being litigated even even still today.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:31:16

Okay, so I guess it's not never fully settled, I

Unknown Speaker: 2:31:20

guess. All right. So it's like it's like this in New York. It we know, according to US Constitution, it is unconstitutional to stop and frisk.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:31:31

Court. graver gray

Unknown Speaker: 2:31:33

did go to court. And like I said, it's still in litigation. But regardless of that, it's still going on all last year. The cops I live in New York, they still do what the eff they want to do. They don't care about the law. They will stop you they will frisk you. That's why they stay in court. And this civilians review complaint board stays paying out money. People stay suing NYPD and suing officers personally. Right. So the law says one thing, but we know these people just do what they want. Right? And I lay my playing there.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:32:06

Okay. All right.

Unknown Speaker: 2:32:10

So I apologize. You're Lydia talking facts. And I just want to Lydia you talking facts. And one problem that I have here, do I talk too fast. So just calm down. And when Jonathan rebuttals, just keep your cool, that's all totally you love.

Unknown Speaker: 2:32:31

Noted.

Unknown Speaker: 2:32:34

I think they let it be over talking. And I don't really appreciate that when I'm hearing backs. I don't believe that she knows everything. either. She comes off like she knows everything. I just think we all need like you said this is a both sides video, but you're not listening. We're talking, you're over talking. So I don't really understand how you feel that you're getting all the facts, whatever it is, you're even in your personal space, because you're not willing to listen on this space. So my thing is, and I don't believe the same thing as you believe. So I kind of like another perspective. And I like all the perspectives, but I really like Jonathan's perspective. So I'm sorry, I'm just listening as well. But I don't, I don't think that you are being fair.

Unknown Speaker: 2:33:09

Well, that's fine. But I know how to talk to Jonathan because he's normally loud. And he will like override me. So I was like, maybe, you know, push to do what I did

Jonathan Bing: 2:33:23

in the car driving to Boston, in Boston on my microphone.

Unknown Speaker: 2:33:29

But I know that's why

Unknown Speaker: 2:33:30

I'm hard. Yeah, that was well, let's, let's see if we can get Jonathan to pull over.

Unknown Speaker: 2:33:41

Anybody else? You know, you didn't you kind of misunderstood Jonathan stance. Lydia, he, he is defense. He does not advocate. He does. And I've been here just probably as long as you. He calls people on their bullshit and we love him for that. You know, I'm saying you. And I know you probably want to address things as he was trying to address what you said. And you wouldn't give them the chance to get good. You said a lot. You know, he and he was it seemed like he was trying to to get to each point that you said one by one. Right? So you know, no, you truly let the man speak.

Unknown Speaker: 2:34:19

She got hugs and kisses.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:34:23

Well, Lydia, Lydia, make sure you make sure you come back tomorrow lady so you can have round and let's see. So right now, you know you got him staggered because he couldn't talk but let's see tomorrow. Okay, anybody else want to jump in? Join the conversation. We're in the last hour. So whatever topic you guys want to talk about. We got Russia bombed. A child shelter we got the US votes to cut trade with Russia. We got this new variant. I don't know how new it is, but it's definitely not all Macron Orissa, part of Omar calm but you know, we're hearing cases going up in Europe. We're hearing cases going up in. I saw article in New Jersey, I think they said 800 new cases in Los Angeles. So would you say Jonathan,

Jonathan Bing: 2:35:15

now saying the US you're right, it's not just Europe is the US as well as going up.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:35:21

Year we have cases,

Unknown Speaker: 2:35:23

this service about 30% more infectious or contagious than omachron. So it's worse than omachron. So we're going from one bad thing to another. And Jesse Smollett was released to the

Jerry Malcolm: 2:35:37

I don't know, I don't know how deadly this new variant is. I don't know if it's just it's more contagious. You got to mute your mic. Pamela. I'm gonna tell you, right, one more time. You guys got to mute your mics when you're on stage. Because it's really it's much quicker for me just to put you in the audience instead of asking you to mute it. So it's probably the last time I say it. But um, but yeah, I don't know if it's more contagious Alfredo. Or if it's, if it's worse because of that, or if it's worse, because it's more deadly. I don't know if it's like, what do you call it was a Delta cron or what was it called? Again? So many down crimes,

Unknown Speaker: 2:36:10

moronic? Omicron is spelt moronic if you tend to work around.

Jonathan Bing: 2:36:22

That small app needs to be in jail. He needs to do his time. All right, because what he did, he made all look back at me. Everyone's gonna flip back. And I'm sorry, and I'm playing with that. Need to still be in jail. He's not a martyr. He's not a victim. He's a perpetrator. And

Unknown Speaker: 2:36:46

right, yeah, so I want to apologize for the hate the app and open but I'm driving and sometimes I hate it by accident. So I don't do that on purpose. So

Jerry Malcolm: 2:36:55

it's okay. It's okay. Y'all just gotta just try to pay attention. Look at y'all. Y'all mic cuz I do that I just look at just make sure I'm not making no noise in the background. Um, somebody wants to say something. What's your name, bro? He was trying to jump in.

Unknown Speaker: 2:37:08

Hey, Jerry's Ice. I wanted to kind of go back to what we opened up with Putin using his old equipment. And I couldn't get in. I think part of his strategy is, you know, he's killing babies. And he's trying to say, Oh, it was by mistake, because we're using our old equipment. I think I heard something to that effect. And we know it's bullshit. Can't believe nothing. This guy said, I believe he is intentionally just trying to kill whoever he can. And it really does need to stop.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:37:39

But you know, ice that's we're in debate, the news, we got a debate that what you just said, How do you know he's intense? He's trying to kill whoever, including innocent people, like what made you say that? Like, where'd you get that part from building

Unknown Speaker: 2:37:53

said children? And they bombed it?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:37:56

No, no, you probably miss misunderstood my question. I let me rephrase it, because you answered it a certain way. So let me rephrase in case you misunderstood what I just said. I didn't ask you. It was a building had children. So let me make sure I'm clear. You made a statement. And I asked you a question about the statement. But you redirected your answer to somebody asked you and I was interesting that you did that. The question is this. You said he's intentionally trying to kill innocent. How do you know he's intentionally trying to do kill innocent? Where'd you get that date of answer

Unknown Speaker: 2:38:30

because the building that blew up had a sign on it? That said, children, and if someone if you're at war, and a building says children, you shouldn't be killing children. You should be killing soldiers.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:38:43

I know, but could it be

Unknown Speaker: 2:38:45

hiding in a building that says children? Right, but a lot of places had signs that said children and like cars and stuff, so

Unknown Speaker: 2:38:55

couldn't that be like a factor?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:38:59

But But I have you ever heard of innocent people and innocent targets being being hit or bombed and war? I'm just saying because you said he's intentionally trying to do and they were saying because of his old weapons and old things. I'm not saying it is. So before I get attacked, I'm not saying it's I'm just debating

Unknown Speaker: 2:39:19

right. I agree with you. Yeah, I mean, but this war has shown to him killing civilians. You know, you can't there's gonna be casualties of course, we know there's not

Jerry Malcolm: 2:39:31

gonna be any war where guns are being shot bombs are going off fire and innocent civilians do not get killed. That's why war needs to be avoided at all. No, possible I

Unknown Speaker: 2:39:43

feel like traditional wars don't go after the civilians traditionally war is. Here's my army. There's your army. I see which army when

Jerry Malcolm: 2:39:53

there is no war in history that you could name that they you got there's no war in history. You can name it don't care who was on the other end of shooting where innocent people didn't get killed were innocent places the Iraqi war they were saying our innocent places were getting built. I mean, you know when when when Bush and then went in, in Iraq however many years ago that was an operation shotgun off sure there are all these

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:16

innocent Can I say something?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:40:18

Can I say something? Second revolution? Can y'all Wait, man, just a

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:22

civil war here in America? The North versus the South? Right? These were traditional wars, ancient wars. They were wars of armies against armies. Manu, you're speaking modern wars. Yeah, everybody's free game. I feel like this

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:35

Putin. Hey, did

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:39

let me learn real quick. I feel like Putin.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:40:41

So you don't want like the Hatfields and McCoys? He did.

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:46

This Putin was intentionally targeting civilians. That's just my opinion.

Unknown Speaker: 2:40:52

Can I let this guy go ahead. You can check the history 20 years ago, America bump Yugoslavia without any reason. And America kill a lot kids. Without

Unknown Speaker: 2:41:08

any reason. Those are modern walls. I said traditional wars going back to the Civil War here in America, the American Revolution. Right, those wars were, you know, US versus

Unknown Speaker: 2:41:20

angels check. 20 years ago. I believe you Yugoslavia without any reason and killed a lot of people and a lot kids. And second, because I'm in Bulgaria, and we are less than 1000 kilometer from Karina. I just and we are not to country. I just I just want to say, say we don't believe the Lansky he gets a lot of money now. He asked for help. Nobody help him. I don't really believe about everything he say about these children. I really don't believe it. And now in Bulgaria, last two weeks, we have many Ukrainian people arrived here. And the Russian people help them. Of course, Bulgaria. I help them personally. And I see many Russian people help Kenyan people and Ukrainian accept this help. So we just really need to think can we believe the Lenski and about why putting us old guns or weapons? Sorry about my English. Maybe he's ready not to attack him. That's why he used all weapons. But just really think, all news coming from China and from the Lansky and don't believe him? 100%

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:44

Are you supporting proving? Sorry, are you supporting Putin as opposed to the lens?

Unknown Speaker: 2:42:50

No, we're not supporting 14 I'm not supporting Putin. But the the true story it's we know about problem in Ukraine from 10 years, you know about this problem from two or three weeks. And you read your news. And we read this news from 10 years. So I don't say putting is wrong on the landscape is wrong? Because both sides they did many bad things last two years last 10 years.

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:21

What so my bad things? That's

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:24

because USA supports the Lensky. So Zelinsky also did many wrong things. Of course I not support putting

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:32

what can you please not? I'm trying to ask her I'm trying to ask her what are the bad things? Because we don't know ma'am. You're teaching us what are some of the things that Solinsky has done that we do not know about?

Unknown Speaker: 2:43:50

Because you talk about this from two weeks. Like they stop at water to Russia or they accept natto in Oh Karina and put in say so many times please don't do it. He said more than 10 years. It

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:11

has he does anything how many people

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:12

they kill Russian people. They queuing doughnuts, the

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:18

truth? Yes. Please tell us teach us

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:22

when you can just read this everywhere. So don't don't don't say putting is like crazy or Zelensky is very good guy. This is it's not true. Both of them is not good person. And just don't believe at one of them.

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:39

Would you put the Lensky in a class of a dictator

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:46

Did you ever living in communism country because I did live. I'm 47 years old.

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:52

I'm asking you would you would you classify the Lenski as a dictator?

Unknown Speaker: 2:44:57

No. I classified him like that. person who sell to take money for free, you know, to make money for his own. That's why I don't believe him.

Unknown Speaker: 2:45:07

He is can answer your question.

Unknown Speaker: 2:45:10

Sure. I mean, she seems like she's dead. That's why I asked him. Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 2:45:15

Okay. So one of the things that Ukraine did that was against Russia was take money from America, through projects like MCC Millennium Challenge Corporation, they took that money in 2003. What that money entails is whatever made capitals in the country belongs to America. So America has the right to safeguards their property, and things like that gave you America or foreign curb powers to attend to go in the country and build the best. And then that pissed off Russia, and then that triggered the whole thing. And as a country, as from I'm from Nepal, where America is trying to give the same kind of aid. And our country, some people are saying, oh, we should not take it. Some people are saying it's free money. Let's take it and the people who are saying it's free money, let's take it one so they are taking the money. So now America is going to come build roads, build hydropower do all the back commission, and it's all on the contract if they will go through the contract of MCC and Ukraine was part of MCC back in 2003 or 2006. One of those two numbers and it is all from that point onwards. This started after they started taking America

Jerry Malcolm: 2:46:25

okay, brother and did she get

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:29

to lander plane?

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:30

Your question Jerry. So does that does that give Putin right to go into a sovereign country and attack them because I want to take goods from somebody the Chinese built roads in Jamaica so should America going attack Jamaica?

Unknown Speaker: 2:46:52

Yeah, they want to America did same in Cuba. So yeah,

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:00

but what I'm saying lady does it give them the right to go into a sovereign country and attack them to tango?

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:07

I have one question so so American can go everywhere to Yugoslavia to Iran to Syria to Vietnam and bump everywhere and everybody and all other country just need to sit and work two rounds I need more for more than 10 years this is my don't don't come here this is next to my country. Don't come here to get a lot money

Jonathan Bing: 2:47:41

this lady here ever

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:42

in between this is this war that's going on? I'm saying Does he have the right to go into another country and attack them two wrongs

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:51

don't make a right

Unknown Speaker: 2:47:53

his territory it's his territory. Is USS territory already told you it was what do you confused about

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:04

that is in the future

Jerry Malcolm: 2:48:07

if we do a one second one second? One second, brother. Row one second. What are you trying to say Jonathan?

Jonathan Bing: 2:48:16

No, I just said that's not his territory. That was the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard ever. That's not

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:21

right. It's all one land it's all one land.

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:26

It's most ridiculous you know far

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:30

more than that.

Jonathan Bing: 2:48:31

Okay. What's that? Oh, no, I tell you what, okay, let us go take Canada because that's all in today. Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:41

If you're indigenous

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:46

that's the main problem. Yes, one Canadian I want to be American. Take my land. No way.

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:52

Okay, then Mexico's gonna take California

Unknown Speaker: 2:48:57

Tijuana same thing it wasn't

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:09

possible El Paso Texas for you?

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:12

Guys Guys, guys, you make better because in Accra, Ghana has many Russian dogs. They use a Russian

Jerry Malcolm: 2:49:28

mute your mic, mute? Me they bro mute your mic, brother. Would you say John?

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:33

I'm just wondering if I land on another planet? Because I've been here for three minutes and everybody here seems to be on quail. ludes and or something my dog. John, this is Mark.

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:50

Can I Can I say something? Bill Cosby's here.

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:53

Hey, John. You seem smart.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:49:56

He said John.

Unknown Speaker: 2:49:57

You know what? I'm fucking smart enough to deal with these three comments. I'll deal with these three comments. Hey, Russia told Ukraine don't go to NATO. They won them. Don't do that. And yeah, you know, and the the the points and by the way, when Russian soldiers went in and attacked and bombed and killed children and bombed hospitals, the Ukrainians attacked those soldiers. Oh my god. And by the way, they shut up water. Am I on fucking drugs? Or is this the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard? Putin is a thug. He's a war criminal. He's attacking Ukraine. And the Ukrainian Zelinsky is the biggest fucking hero I've seen. And for Christ's sakes, we should support everything they do. And anybody who's thinking Other than that, needs to go straight in and have themselves checked into an institution. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:05

What are the actors? Let's do

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:07

drama actor. treadle

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:09

man's ego is costing 1000s of lives.

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:14

God knows that I disagree with you. I don't care bro. It's a Justin Trudeau in Canada. It was a drama. And they're both friends. And Justin Solinsky said, Wait.

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:32

Do not do not compare. Compare Justin Trudeau to Zelinsky Justin Trudeau has got some fucking trucks blocking his track

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:42

decimating Canadian

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:43

on TV.

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:44

Oh, hold on. Wait a second. Now John probably knows.

Unknown Speaker: 2:51:49

Can I say something like I think it's just you know, American army is there like it says like, to protect America and also its interests around the world. It's and it says that on that on?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:52:04

Like, could you speak up a little bit? Could you speak up a little bit you know, you lay down speak up a little bit. Speak up a little bit.

Grant Cardone: 2:52:12

But now Hey, the one thing I can say about John ledger is he's consistent

consistently, consistently buying the fucking mass media propaganda

and his time and his energy and risk his damn reputation promoting a bunch of bullshit. That the average conscious human being Yeah, hey, hey, Grant, and he'll call me Nate. He's gonna see how long it is before he calls me sharp.

Unknown Speaker: 2:52:57

Okay, yeah, let me speak grant. You are the fucking mass media. You are You are the king of the mass media using them to spend get they get the downtrodden to spend their fucking money on your bullshit. So don't you tell me that I'm you are the mass media man if you are the Marlins of all time. So no, go ahead. Grant. You tell me. You tell me with your bullshit. What I'm missing. So are you pro Putin? You think what he's doing this right. Do you think Ukraine is not being decimated? Outside of your bullshit of trying to sell tickets to your fucking event? Oh, well. Okay, can you hear me?

Unknown Speaker: 2:53:45

Listen him.

Jerry Malcolm: 2:53:47

Can you hear me? One second, bro? I think I think he was talking to grant

Unknown Speaker: 2:53:53

you know what, right.

Grant Cardone: 2:53:57

Jerry Jerry.

Unknown Speaker: 2:53:58

Back to everybody except Jake's I call his fucking bullshit.

Grant Cardone: 2:54:03

Hey, Jerry. Jerry. Are you tired Jerry?

Jerry Malcolm: 2:54:06

Why you say that?

Grant Cardone: 2:54:07

Come on, man. Get the energy up, man. What do you talk? So Hey, John, John. And for everybody that's listening to John. John's entire career is based on corporate America.

Unknown Speaker: 2:54:27

This is Grant Cardone good. Oh boy is $40 million apartment in Malibu. Before he goes to his big fucking event before he charges $5,000 to everybody to come in and have him tell them. Thank you, John. Make money on real estate.

Grant Cardone: 2:54:45

John. At least I deliver unlike T Mobile.

Unknown Speaker: 2:54:47

Yeah. Grant grant, are you talking about it? Listen.

Grant Cardone: 2:54:56

I don't promise grant. And I don't promise. Are you talking But I don't promise

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:01

that I took from 5 billion of marking cap to 165 billion. Is that the one? Yeah. Contemplate,

Grant Cardone: 2:55:10

I can't even contemplate and they're so amazing and what you did there was phenomenal. Incredible and that's my point. You are disconnected from the everyday person and you are into kneeling on Wall Street's.

Unknown Speaker: 2:55:28

Yeah, go ahead, you know, your gifts your breath grant while you find a way to explain why the people being killed in Ukraine makes sense.

Grant Cardone: 2:55:38

Well, it doesn't make sense. It also doesn't make sense that that we get involved in this, this event right now, because nobody needed to die there. All they needed to do was say, Hey, dude, let's come up with an agreement with Mr. Putin. That works for you. And we're good. He's not trying to take it over and turn it into Russia. Yeah, he does not want he does not want that was it. I would not want somebody in my front fucking yard with 34 bio research fucking weapon making laps. And two nuclear plants and maybe three and a bunch of people that are being made unhappy to live in my front door and possibly turned against me. Alright, so great. You come to you come to my neighborhood. Anybody in clubhouse? Can I just finish? No, anybody here? Anybody on clubhouse come to my front to my neighborhood to my street in front of my house. And you start threatening my family? Trust me, I am going to wreak havoc. Okay, great. And that is what's happening right now in America. America. America is getting involved. America is getting involved in another bullshit. Fucking third, third, third world countries bullshit. When we can't even fucking feed our own right here at home. Okay. How to hell?

Unknown Speaker: 2:57:08

I want no bullshit, Grant. I'm outta hell, John. You are great. Want to know from you? Who's swallowing the media bullshit more me are you you're the one

Grant Cardone: 2:57:19

dude I don't even watch it. I don't even watch it. You

Unknown Speaker: 2:57:21

just viewed you just viewed that Ukraine has bio nuclear capabilities. You pretty much call them Nazis just like Fox News study.

Grant Cardone: 2:57:31

There's nobody covering that story in the media. Who's covering that story?

Unknown Speaker: 2:57:35

Let me know when did you get with

Grant Cardone: 2:57:39

anybody here? Does anybody here know anybody covering that story?

Unknown Speaker: 2:57:44

Tell me Tell me. Tell me you tell me how you know that Ukraine has bio nuclear capabilities.

Unknown Speaker: 2:57:52

John how you know that kids die. How you know kids die endocrine.

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:00

i All right.

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:02

So Marco Rubio. Make up my

Jerry Malcolm: 2:58:11

bro bro. Bro.

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:13

Media makeup, the videos. I mean, media can make things up. But they can't create videos of apartment buildings.

Grant Cardone: 2:58:22

John. John, you haven't been there? Have you been there, John? No. Do you know if anybody was killed?

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:28

Alright, Grant. I you know what? You must have big fucking ticket sales in new Craig.

Grant Cardone: 2:58:33

You got the lady that's been there for a decade. Moron. Thank you. I knew you were calling me names. I told you guys he just lasted longer than I thought. So this is what people do when they lose an argument. Okay, we know first while research in

Unknown Speaker: 2:58:54

great you even clip my you clip my clubhouse things and you use him for promotion. So here's I

Grant Cardone: 2:59:01

know, because I think it's so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny. Like you would hate on a guy like me.

Unknown Speaker: 2:59:09

So grant, I'm gonna clip I'm gonna clip yours. Okay, so you saying are you saying that Russia is right. Ukraine is really a threat to them. And you understand why they've been encroached into their nation and what they're doing is appropriate. And you know from a

Grant Cardone: 2:59:29

shame to you that you would say that John, you're the one saying I didn't say that right. What you just said I just

Unknown Speaker: 2:59:36

I'm clear it's a fucking war criminal. the atrocities that are taking place in Ukraine a horrific and nothing that nothing explains what's taking place of that nothing about NATO nothing about and frankly it you know, what you're saying makes a

Grant Cardone: 2:59:55

clip. This clip this, get back to work bit

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:01

Did you just say that to me, Grant?

Grant Cardone: 3:00:05

Yes. Yes. Why are you with me, man? Why can't I have my opinion? Same thing on the vaccine, why you got to force your ideas down my throat and say that I'm wrong and everybody else in here is an idiot because they believe some other way. That's ridiculous. That's not America. John, clip that buddy.

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:23

Yeah, that's correct on that.

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:27

Okay, so I give us a

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:30

good first campaign speech.

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:33

So I didn't say booking

Jerry Malcolm: 3:00:37

considerable flight.

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:40

Putting out any facts, John's not putting out facts. He's not saying anything about why coons there. John's just saying I put into war criminal. I'm like, Okay, well, then why is he there in the first place? John, why did? Why is he putting all this time and effort into Ukraine? You're not saying anything? Why he's there, John. You're just complaining about it? Well, why don't we like,

Unknown Speaker: 3:00:59

Hey, dude, why the fuck should somebody have to explain why a dictator invades a sovereign country with an army? Why should you have to explain because

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:12

no one does it on on a whim. John, there's always a reason why do you think he's spending billions of dollars on this endeavor, there has to be a reason behind it. No one does. When

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:25

you mean, why is he risking the economy of his entire country? Why are 1000s of people in his country protesting and being put in prison? Are we missing these?

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:36

No job, but you're still not saying why would someone go into a foreign country? You're just saying he did it on a whim. But you're not asking.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:01:44

What do you think is most no brother just said, John. John, do

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:47

you don't know who gives a shit about a whim? No, you're

Unknown Speaker: 3:01:51

not. There's a reason for it. John, there has to be a reason why someone, a leader of a country goes into a foreign country. There's a reason but

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:00

like solving, you're solving a puzzle the wrong way. Usually people would say, hey, you know why? You what would make somebody go do this? And now you're asking me to explain. Why is that guy who is bombing and decimating this country? killing these people? You know, there should be a reason, John. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:27

Yeah, John, it's the same question as why did United States invade Iraq? What was in it for the United States? Absolutely nothing. So why is Russia invading Ukraine? There's got to be a reason for it. It has to be a reason for John. So you don't just do

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:43

that something? Isn't that something? He and you should explain that we should accept as opposed to the alternative. And and granted?

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:56

He feels threatened by the rest of

Unknown Speaker: 3:02:59

you. No, no. Complaining about

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:04

Oh, hold on. I want to cap I want to capture this because you both just said it. Well, I'm sure as grant just as grant just said, Russia felt threatened by the Western world. So they're fucking decimating Ukraine. You guys are stupid to not understand that

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:21

crane is a buffer. Okay, John,

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:23

the same thing happened. Same

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:28

history lesson. Don't get me. Wrong like you and grant you and grant. Got hope hoping to get people to come March 25. To TEDx conference support Putin, decimating the Ukraine to do it whether

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:49

John, anything like that,

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:52

John, John, isn't it fair to say, you know, Russia?

Unknown Speaker: 3:03:57

Nobody said that. Nobody said anything like that?

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:02

Any eight years is no, decimating Yes, yes.

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:06

But okay. Nobody said anything. Nobody said anything like that. Like they agreed with that happening. Nobody said that. That's

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:16

okay. You don't agree with it happening. But you don't agree with saying it's wrong,

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:22

John, isn't it? John? Oh, hold on.

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:27

Let me find out our problem,

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:29

John, isn't it fair to say we understand Putin strategic motivation with the coup in 2014 and becoming an American puppet, biolabs, etc. But on the other hand, the onus as an invading country falls on him, and the way he's conducting his military invasion makes him a war criminal. Isn't it fair to have that Balanced View?

Unknown Speaker: 3:04:50

You mean they the guy who is sitting at 40 foot tables away from his military leaders, because he's afraid they're gonna slash his throat? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so so we don't we don't see that the guy is sick. And he doesn't know

Unknown Speaker: 3:05:06

I'm just saying isn't it fair to understand the motivation while still calling out the act?

Unknown Speaker: 3:05:11

yet but yeah, it's not it's not a country's motivation it's

Unknown Speaker: 3:05:15

understood no I completely agree well wasn't he elected

Unknown Speaker: 3:05:21

so everybody agrees that Putin is so demented that's for sure everybody agrees

Unknown Speaker: 3:05:27

in his people chose him Do they not?

Unknown Speaker: 3:05:30

Don't call me Russian you knows?

Unknown Speaker: 3:05:35

You guys grant put it up there in a way that everyone can understand if someone shows up in my neighborhood and starts militarizing the neighborhood and and and not backing down or not creating this you know, buffer zone or whatever you want to call it? Yeah, you think I'm gonna sit there and be quiet. I've Putin raised the concern about this for the last 10 years, and no one did anything about it. And then finally, it got to a point where he's like, Hey, you guys are getting way too military eyes on my buffer on my zone on my border. The NATO is not doing anything about it. The free world's not doing anything about it. I'm going to take matters into my own hand because no one else is doing anything about it. And and that's what it is. And even though it's wrong what he's doing. There's just the key.

Unknown Speaker: 3:06:18

He feared the Ukraine hurting.

Unknown Speaker: 3:06:21

He feared the Ukraine becoming an American puppet instilled in that territory. That's his next door neighbor. Think about it being Mexico the same exact thing. But Mac Russia in Mexico, right.

Unknown Speaker: 3:06:33

Yeah, just about the

Unknown Speaker: 3:06:35

motivations while still calling out the terminal. That's all I'm saying. Now, listen. Wait a minute. Listen to this one. The same thing happened in the Cuban Missile Crisis. Russia started arming Cuba right What did America do? It was on the brink of war because of it because that buffer zone

Unknown Speaker: 3:06:54

American flag bombed on their own citizens.

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:00

To say war.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:07:02

Forget, forget to mute your mics for a second. I'm sorry.

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:06

Did you say war? Or the brink of war? Yeah, okay. There's a big fucking difference between the brink of war and decimating cities and children and

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:22

John have you ever heard of Operation Northwoods?

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:26

Forget Cuba. I forget the interest or or someone coming to your neighborhood like America America decimated cities and then name was like giving them democracy to pee to people that don't dumb money can't even attack

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:42

topics. The topic John

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:44

John

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:46

refugees are sitting in a fucking cold nothing right now in Poland or countries outside of

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:55

your only passionate ways. Does it but like when

Unknown Speaker: 3:07:58

you bought on Wi Fi Wi

Unknown Speaker: 3:08:01

Fi was angry about your right now. People are only calling good they're not supporting what's going on right now. But they're calling the hypocrisy that people only get passionate when someone does it. But the other one, okay,

Unknown Speaker: 3:08:14

that's a great, dude. And that's like a five year old saying my friend. My friend stole something so I can steal it to

Unknown Speaker: 3:08:23

his coffee. They have every right to do that. So when do they not make people refugee? Oh, god. What about

Unknown Speaker: 3:08:43

when you're when you're saying like, you know, John, like when you're saying things like that. It'll be nice for especially for other people from other countries when to hear you like what's to see with

Unknown Speaker: 3:08:56

me. Next time there's a crisis and I'll do the same thing. But somebody just said Russia's retaliating on the Ukraine. Yeah, Bio Labs. You

Unknown Speaker: 3:09:05

talk to Marco Rubio and Julian woman

Unknown Speaker: 3:09:08

on these people are crazy. Like, I don't understand those arguments. Two wrongs don't make a right. That's the first thing I said. And they're all carrying water for Putin. I do not understand why you would want to go into a sovereign country just because Okay.

Unknown Speaker: 3:09:31

Jonathan and Jerry came in and say hi, I'm not shocked by most of this conversation as I never was on the COVID conversation. But I'm shocked that Grant Cardone came on this and he stood up for Putin. I don't get it. And grant.

Unknown Speaker: 3:09:48

John. John, John.

Unknown Speaker: 3:09:57

Grant does everything to try to be the Common man, but I think you misread that the common man is fucking disgusted Oh, you are disgusted, but

Unknown Speaker: 3:10:12

you don't. But all of this stuff but like no one even mentions what happened yesterday in Yemen with Saudi bombs provided by us if we're gonna talk about, like, if you're outrageous about what's happening in the world or this, you know, people dying, you know sometimes it will be healthy to mention all other things that are being done right now by US and its allies by Saudi who no one even cares like what it does to its own citizen, but like they're going out of their border killing children 500,000 Children, people died in Yemen just in last one like, what, eight years and you only would like, oh my god when it happens to to Ukraine or like, no one thing that is right, and it's just like, can you just like stop being hypocrisy, like, hypocrite like hypocrisy and at least be like, speak the truth if we get if you're going to be truthful about everything, like you have to mention what's happening in other places.

Unknown Speaker: 3:11:11

I'm gonna speak the truth right now,

Jonathan Bing: 3:11:13

man. Fuck you. Oh, you know, you got blown up. Okay, so let's talk about what happened to human. So that's a no, no come in here. And your victims in the ship, first of all,

Unknown Speaker: 3:11:33

like, the innocent or not victim and

Jonathan Bing: 3:11:37

one second. And second of all, you gotta keep the queue up. We didn't go and attack Cuba. Okay, we went to fight the fucking we went to fight Russia. Okay, and Russia was fighting missiles in Cuba. We stood at the Russia attack Cuba. So there's a big difference. So stop bringing it up. Well, I don't know why.

Unknown Speaker: 3:11:57

You don't think it looks like you? Don't you don't think your minions are like victims of what's happening right now?

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:03

No, the problem is,

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:05

all these outside stories, no one can stay focused on what they're interconnected. They're all connected. It's

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:11

your problem you own.

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:16

The world's involved.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:12:19

It's called debate in the news, everybody. And people don't bring up different topics of what they feel they don't debate. So that's what that's what it's called. So people keep saying why they changed the topic. They just debated what they feel like debate in the last hour.

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:32

is like no one is afraid or running from from a conversation here. Like, the only problem is that you seeing or staying to focus so that you can dictate the narrative on one thing that is happening, but when people clearly we're all adults here, like we can analyze and see like, you

Jerry Malcolm: 3:12:49

know, like referring to who you refer to me. No, no,

Unknown Speaker: 3:12:53

she was she said, let's focus on Ukraine. Did

Jerry Malcolm: 3:12:58

you find the topic you brought up about another country being bombed and not talking about it? Did that that's your Okay, talking about that. That's what you're talking about.

Unknown Speaker: 3:13:07

And one last thing like I mean, Jay, Jonathan, I LOVE IT guys like this is run by African American like this. This group is run by I don't know like I've been here. I've been here for me for a long time. But I've never heard about the the situation that happened when everyone was trying to flee. You know, the bombs and everything from Ukraine. But when people have African Americans people that when they're too educated for education for work, that were that we're prevented from fleeing, fleeing a bomb,

Unknown Speaker: 3:13:40

that African Americans get it right, man.

Unknown Speaker: 3:13:43

Yeah, like anything that I've never heard that being raised here. That no matter what, which side is supporting, and I don't think anyone should support like, the what's happening. I don't, I'm just saying I'm just stating the facts that there are things that have happened, and other places that shouldn't be raised. But people that just because they think they might paint Ukrainians in some sort of wrong way. Don't even want to talk about that people in this even in this when like, Let's go like, you know, in this disaster, people still chose to see color and chose to, you know, be racist and prevent people from joining that leg that turned out to taking innocent civilians out of the harm's way. And

Jerry Malcolm: 3:14:31

I got to land you though cuz I was letting you flow but you know, seemed like you about to take a tour. I got sorry. No, no, you have to apologize. But like I said, this is the bait the news so wonderful. You guys can come in here. And, you know, I may not agree with everything. Jonathan may not agree everything. But I want everybody to know that you're you're, you know, that's what this is about debate, news. Whatever you want to debate, whatever your perspective is on it. We're just going to debate it. And so I appreciate you for you know, Boom. Can I? Can I just finish what I'm saying for

Unknown Speaker: 3:15:06

my brother, man, I love you.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:15:09

You love me. Okay, appreciate you. I'm gonna say I love you too since you said you love me. So I love you too, brother. So check this out. I'm going to ask y'all once again and make sure y'all follow this club. The greenhouse at top debate the news, we're one of the fastest growing clubs on clubhouse. We've only been out for a couple months, and we are literally crushing it because of all of you wonderful people that come to the room and share the stage was five days a week. I want to thank you all for coming out. But I'm going to also remind you all the debate, the news is live on your favorite podcast, you can go there and you can download it. Spotify, Apple, whatever your podcast platform of choice. Debate, the news is there you can get the past. The present the ones that's going to the one that you missed, I'm going to remind you all we had one yesterday it was lit. So if anybody's in this room or on stage or in the audience that missed yesterday's episode, do yourself a favor, go check it out. You're gonna thank me later, it was absolutely lit. Make I want to thank the moderators. Ah, well, thank the moderators. But y'all got to come in this room and start participating moderators. Y'all gotta jump on the mic. You know, I got the people don't have the badges this. This joining the conversation is just like making it like, enjoyable. So moderators, please come to the stage. Join the conversation. What's your perspective? What are you rocking with? What do you feel about Ukraine? What do you feel about Russia? Whatever it is, join the conversation. Give me five seconds, one second. I don't know if y'all can tell. But I have a major, major, major allergy attack today. And it kind of took my voice away Summer. I'm going to low narcotics right now. Maybe I shouldn't sit down or college. I'm on. Maybe we call it stuff. No, it's okay. If I say what is your what? What's going to happen to us? I might be in some narcotics. What's gonna happen? Nothing. I want. I want some clarity. Y'all y'all too much with

Unknown Speaker: 3:17:04

your Claritin. Clear Jerry your Claritin clear. Yeah, but

Jerry Malcolm: 3:17:07

it hasn't worked yet. But you know, when you get allergies, it actually makes you sleepy. I'm gonna tell y'all something. I was scrolling. Something this this is so off topic, but I'm gonna tell you. This is off topic. What's the guy's name? This was me coming back. The football player, the quarterback. What's his name?

Unknown Speaker: 3:17:24

Tom Brady, Tom Brady.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:17:27

Tom Brady. I want you to look up. I want you to look up something interesting because when I think about Tom Brady made some come to my mind. I want you all to look up a football player named Anthony Smith. I don't know if y'all remember me play for the Raiders. And he was a friend of mine. This is so off topic, but I might have just shared a story. He's a friend of mine. And it just shows you how crazy this world is. So Anthony Smith played for the Raiders. So I lived in a in a place in the Marina del Rey and it was like a hub spot for all athletes to move to California. I met Lamar Odom when he first came to the clippers that was years ago. I met Derek Fisher, who's my neighbor, Terry to hair he played for the clippers, Haro minor he played for the Lakers. And Anthony Smith played for you know, he's an Oakland Raider. He was like incredible. So look them up. Look up Anthony Smith. Okay, so one day he hit me up we became friends. We go shoot hoops. We go shoot hooping on Santa Monica. Things like let's go shooting. So we went shooting right we went to an area out in the valley or near near Magic Mountain. You guys don't imagine mountains. So it's kind of like a little desert area near madman. So we went we took a bunch of guns I took about I've gotten guns with my brother took about five with him. And so while we were out there shooting, my brother looked at me and said do some stuff with this dude, he's I can kind of weird. He's like, I feel real uncomfortable. So he said, you know, get an extra gun and loaded the true true story. True story. He said get an extra gun and load it and be ready because this dude is unsung. Now mind you, this is a professional football player just retired. Fast forward a year later. I don't know if anybody Googled him. They said first professional athlete serial killer. He went and kidnapped two brothers and torched him for money. Then he went to another person's business with another friend of his posing as police with the low D jackets, arresting people and and murdered him. They got him for four murders. Look it up y'all a professional football player. And we was on his damn list. Is that some crazy shit or what y'all is that some crazy shit

Unknown Speaker: 3:19:34

that just to bear here Jerry. Wow.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:19:38

Hey, I literally got when he mentioned they mentioned this Tom Brady thing. I got chills. Remember that? It's like me and him went or him and I went to go play basketball in Santa Monica. And I'm killing it was always he had this. He was six for like 260 but he always had this glare and it looks so evil. I thought it was because he was a football player. So aggressive. That was part of his energy. It's like he would look through you when he's talking to you but all along we realized he was plotting wheels on me because you know, we was, you know, we had Ferraris, Bentleys, all that stuff so we look like one of them athletes. So we was on his list to be one of his victims. Former skate Jerry as he escaped. I didn't I didn't escape his he didn't he just didn't make his move. But when we went shooting something weird was going on and seemed like he was up to something. We was like cut. My brother said, Dude, he's acting weird. So we literally I can remember like it was yesterday I had another 380 Because you know, we had rifles shotguns we had all kinds of guns. Were shooting like just doing some legal shooting at targets. So I remember my brother said Be ready. So I put another gun loaded it chambered it put in my front pocket. My brother did same. In case he did some because my brother said he's up to something he's about to do some. We know what it was. But all we know he's a professional football player just retired. But he was talking to a strange and looking at a strange. And guess what? Mariana you just took me back. One part I forgot to leave out. His truck broke down. His truck broke down. He had a Hummer so he called somebody to come pick us up. We waited another hour for his might come pick us up in a town car. While we were waiting. The police pulled up and when a police pulled up they knew he was it was talking to him. What if when the truck supposedly broke down? The guy that came to pick us up was really going to be part of a part two. Oh my god I'm over you're getting chills y'all real talk. Look up Anthony Smith y'all. So you can never know we come on all this stuff all this news. This stuff is real. It's just crazy people is where I noticed was off topic. debate the news but look, he did make it to the headlines. Look them up. We'll talk about another time. So anybody want to comment on what I just said before I land

Unknown Speaker: 3:21:54

eviction. Hey, look up

Jerry Malcolm: 3:21:57

Anthony Smith. Oh, would you say Kevin's gonna say

Unknown Speaker: 3:22:00

you're just you were so blessed. Yeah, that was God you were meant to be here today.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:22:07

Listen, somebody listening to the guy was Mike The guy was my neighbor I lived in Marina Del Rey in a high rise I met him in the gym in my building he became my friend. So we then we started going to go eat together and then we started going to go play basketball local YMCA together. So then one day he said hey, let's go shooting. So then we would go shooting. And then and then right after that is when we found out he got arrested for killing four people. Murder kidnap two brothers. That's crazy. He was

Unknown Speaker: 3:22:37

wearing a cop jacket. Yes. Oh, they got it for you. Yeah, that's what that's what they do. That's why you think all these people come up missing?

Jerry Malcolm: 3:22:48

What do you what are you talking about? No, no, this

Unknown Speaker: 3:22:50

do know that

Unknown Speaker: 3:22:51

they come on. Wait, what do you say that this guy was your friend?

Jerry Malcolm: 3:22:56

What are you waiting for? You California Yes, Jonathan? One second miss one second. Miss Grant. Jonathan.

Jonathan Bing: 3:23:13

You see that right? You see are you telling your story? And now she's gonna tell you a story?

Jerry Malcolm: 3:23:22

That that threw me that threw me for a curve

you know what Jonathan? I only thing I can say is maybe were you listening to my story? You just heard the last part or did you turn heat our whole thing you just remixed it like that story? So you literally real so you literally remixed my story

Unknown Speaker: 3:23:45

is very common in Southern California

Jerry Malcolm: 3:23:48

Wait wait wait wait wait hold on hold up everybody this is a series Listen people please professional athletes

Jonathan Bing: 3:23:53

going and killing people at a gun range is common yeah actually

Unknown Speaker: 3:23:59

that was common

Jonathan Bing: 3:24:01

damage your your gun range because you know it's common out there for professional athletes to take brothers out and kill you right? Hey man I was on Antonio would you say um

Unknown Speaker: 3:24:18

I was at a range this weekend and and you know first time guys that go shoot I've ever been to the range before they make them go in in the buddy system. But you can't go in alone the first time they got to get to know you first before you ever go back by yourself. So every time you go to Ranger has to be the buddy system for the first time and then once they get to know you and you're not going to go crazy and Captain people, then they'll let you come back by yourself.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:24:41

And I'm not Oh no, she caught what I said this guy was my neighbor. He became my friend over the course of like a year. And you know how when you live in a nice high rise in Marina Del Rey overlooking the ocean, you know, and you got to prevent you come on. Oh my god, you know, people just automatically give a little bit more trust to entertainers and athletes. You know, like this guy. Ferraris business. Oh, not to mention he had a 7000 square foot house on a bluff in play there. Alright, it's worth about maybe 15 million right now. So he wasn't a struggling dude. Right so I guess that is coming my bad so I gotta make sure thank you. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker: 3:25:19

it is common that people will go to a gun range and commit suicide May time so that's why they always are very cautious about who they let in for first time.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:25:28

Yeah, I got you but my story was completely different. All I'm talking about is the athlete. We just happen to go shooting we play basketball. We even got pizza together. We were friends. And he after he retired, he went on a murdering spree and he killed four people. So they call they're calling him the first serial killer athlete. So if you guys look up Anthony Smith of the Oakland Raiders, I'm gonna land on that note

Unknown Speaker: 3:25:52

that injury stuff that made him go crazy like what Jr say, oh, yeah,

Unknown Speaker: 3:25:57

right syndrome. Yeah,

Jerry Malcolm: 3:25:59

no. Oh, no, no, we had an argument I wasn't going just lay down like the mother do is because we shouldn't I had little some wimpy. I was ready to tow my brother's right there. It would have been very difficult for him to do some at the shooting range because we were on alert thinking he was up to something. So when you're thinking somebody is up to something, we both had weapons in our pocket. So we were like, you know, ready? I'm not saying he couldn't caught me slipping because when we'd go play basketball together. He could have got me then because I had no idea that he was a serial killer. You know, it's just like if I want to you guys I don't I might be regret and go hang out read. I don't know. Maybe a crazy man. Matter of fact, gotta be careful fiber hangout written in Miami. I gotta read. I gotta watch easy just to be safe. Yeah, I gotta watch you. I'm gonna make sure I was high chance. You're here. Because that's that police officer showed up at that time. So that means I'm here for a reason. So y'all gotta show me some love. So all of you that believe I'm here for a reason. Make sure you follow that greenhouse at the top. They say debate the news. Make sure you follow Jonathan Bing. Make sure you follow me Jerry Malcolm, because y'all heard it right here live and debate the news. I am here for a reason. Also debate the news podcast. You can catch this episode for those of you who just walked in late and didn't hear that incredible story that made him say I'm here for a reason. Go to the beta news.com Tonight, and you can listen to it and download it. It's crystal clear. I want to thank everybody wants to once again. Mr. Bing, did you have anything any parting words before I land especially?

Jonathan Bing: 3:27:30

No, man, my mics low, man. I'm on my way to Connecticut on my way to Massachusetts. So guys, we appreciate you guys. Check out the podcast. That's what I have to say. Thank you.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:27:41

Thank you, everybody. So I'm going to be doing a hard landing because I just got clearance from air traffic controller so you guys know how to do it. Put your seats in the upright position store your iPad, put that thing up, cut your phone if you ask me a quick question. What would you want to ask me?

Unknown Speaker: 3:27:59

Hey, I know you guys are doing promotion for the event that coming? Tenex which is coming soon. If there's still some tickets not sell, if I have only 5000. And I want to bet that 5000 word Can you can you borrow mice me I will get some kind of knowledge that will help him in the future. That's first question. That the first question I want to ask is I am normally come here. Listen, you guys. I don't talk a lot. I just listened. But a lot of conversation is outside in our estate. What I mean outside is very little about empowering the neighborhood.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:28:50

Okay, my brother, this is what I need you to do. Okay, I need you to come back tomorrow. I need to come back tomorrow we have that conversation. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to ask because you asked one question. He went to another question. But you You came with some statements before the question. So it kind of confused me. Okay. Okay. But But, but if you're if you ask some question about Grant Cardone, just go to garden card on capital calm, and you get all the information you need right there. If there's anything else you want to discuss with me save for tomorrow, or you can see me back channel, and we could you know, have a conversation later date, Mr. 100. Is that okay with you? Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Appreciate you, my brother. Thank you. Thank you make sure you follow the club. Did you follow the club?

Unknown Speaker: 3:29:25

A long time? Long time.

Unknown Speaker: 3:29:28

Did you did you?

Jerry Malcolm: 3:29:29

Did you log on to the debate the news.com? And did you subscribe everything I did a man. Okay, thank you for saying that. So I'm going to ask you guys also to subscribe and give us a five star rating on all of those platforms. And for all of you iPhone users and all of you Android users. You can go to debate the news.com you can click the link and you can copy and you can paste it in as many people in your phone on a text message and let them know that you got a pretty cool podcast is really dope this growing very fast that you're a part of and share it with them and share it with your friends and family. I want to thank everybody else, once again for coming to debate the news. Jonathan being the host, Jerry Malcolm, the host, Cardon capital, our sponsor and our host also, and we are signing out. appreciate everybody, and I will see y'all tomorrow. Goodbye, everybody. Thanks.

Unknown Speaker: 3:30:19

Cheers. See ya. Thanks.

Jerry Malcolm: 3:30:21

Thank you love, love your night. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye bye. Good night right