🦠 China Lockdown 51 Million People as the US Warns China Not to Helping Putin 🇺🇸 Economy Down with Jerry Malcolm, Grant Cardone, and Jonathan Bing
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DTN Intro 0:01
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Jonathan Bing 0:10
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Jerry Malcolm 0:37
About. Debate
welcome this beautiful Monday I would ask you early I'm gonna ask you to ping some your friends in the vitamin 14 shares in the wall I think you said up to 100
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debate the news y'all know how we do it? About to go down. I want to welcome everybody to debate the news on this beautiful Monday it is about to go down. We got some incredible stuff we're going to talk about. Look at this. Your China has locked down 51,000,050 1 million is on lockdown. The economy is plummeting. It is really a different day in America, everybody. The US is warning. The US is warning Putin. I mean warning China is really getting interesting. But before I get started, before I get started, I want to first thank everybody for coming out. And I'm going to ask you while it's early, if you could ping some of your friends and invite them in, if you could ping them and definitely invite them in. Also, I'm going to ask you guys to get me up to about 100 on the walls. I need 100 shares in a wall. Let your friends know that we're in debate the news and is definitely about to go down. I got my brother Mr. Johnson being next to me right here. How are you doing? I got these incredible moderators on the stage. I see y'all I see my man see rock. I see Maddie Gotta see my brother Rhett. So how are y'all doing what's good Mr. Jonathan Bing Mr. Okay, I'm gonna pivot away from Mr. Jonathan Bing because
Jonathan Bing 5:11
th:Jerry Malcolm 7:09
Yes, yes, yes. So this is what I'm going to do. I got about 16, Henry's is right there. So just want to do, I'm going to bring all 16 of you up to the stage, but I want to do something a little different. I want everybody to get involved with this conversation. If you come to the stage, please join the conversation, we want to have a good show. So I'm not looking for any partners. Right now. I'm looking people want to join in the conversation. So pumpkin helped me bring some of these people to the stage. And once again, I'm gonna moderate a couple other people's and moderators, you know, please do not mind anybody. And other than that, is there anybody on stage that actually thought that you actually thought that COVID was gone? And now you see what's going on with China. So this this literally has nothing to do with a doctor saying has to do what a scientist is saying, it has to do with this is like reality. It looked like this virus never went away. And it's about to kick back up. So was it political? Was it money? What was it? What do you think about that? See rock my brother?
Unknown Speaker 8:04
Yeah, it's a matter of what, what they want to put attention on. It's not it's not gone. I mean, there's, it's, there's a lot of things going man, look at all the disease and viruses that are out there that nobody pays attention to. It's not gone. But you know, I think that there's a lot of immune systems that have been built up and may not be as effective against the virus might not be as effective against us anymore if we've had some immunity built up. But what about other possible viruses being leaked out of labs? Intentionally? Possibly,
Unknown Speaker 8:42
oh, boy. Hey, Jonathan, I
Unknown Speaker 8:46
was I was a little happy that you're on mute because saved us from listening to some of the some of the theories that you've come up with sometimes. I may, man, I just wanted to start some shit early.
Unknown Speaker 8:58
Bring it on, see.
Unknown Speaker 9:00
Hey, how about that 10 year bonds?
Unknown Speaker 9:04
Nah, man, a before see ropey pivots, man, you know, President Obama tweeted out that he just caught COVID You know, you know, thank God, his wife didn't catch it. But he was just trying to encourage everybody to get vaccinated. But the virus never went anywhere. COVID never went anywhere. Just because the media doesn't talk about it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. You know, we still have to be responsible Mansa to make sure we're doing what we need to do. Now you're there.
Unknown Speaker 9:32
Jerry, Can I chime in? Or Jonathan storm? Yes, go ahead. Okay, so remember, we talked a little while of the jab to my kids, they got their second one. And today they got fevers. So I ain't happy about it. Go with my ex wife, but they'd be okay. And the other. Oh, it is not gone. I can say that. It's still here. It's what the media is putting the pressure on. We got a war going on. And all of a sudden ABI crumbs on men In the news, I'm in you know, I'm in Toronto here as a 21st lift and all the mass mandates. So it's optional. And we'll see what happens there giving it a shot in my province. I don't know, but the other ones right now. So I don't know what's happened down in the States. Are we at risk in taking the mask off? And, and going out and people are gonna say stuff to other people I can write.
Jerry Malcolm:I got a question for CB ACB. What do you think about that, bro? What do you think about the announcement from mom from Barack Obama the way he was speaking about the, about the vaccine, it something just felt like it was two parts to that tweet. What did you think about it, bro?
Unknown Speaker:You're exactly right. Man, I did think it was two parts of that. The first part was, Hey, I can't COVID The second part was that undertone of hey, we're still pushing the vaccination, we're still promoting get vaccinated. So this war between people who believe in the vaccination and people who don't believe I think is at an all time high right now. And you know, we just got to be able to still do what we've been doing. The people who don't believe in taking the vaccination. I salute you guys. I think you're brave. And I think that you're doing some great things because you're you created a herd immunity. Alright, and the people who have taken the vaccination, I think you're responsible, and the ones who have taken their boosters, I think you're responsible. I think this big old mix is the reason why we're being we're able to fight COVID The way that we're fighting, we just got to stop the rhetoric of fighting amongst one another. And if we're gonna communicate about, you know, what we're gonna do with it, we need to make sure we do it, do it in the right fashion, because we're not possibly against each other possibly trying to work this thing out together. But there was an undertone for sure.
Jerry Malcolm:It was a serious undertone about it. It was like, it actually seemed to me where it wasn't about that he caught COVID It seemed to me it was about he was trying to promote, go get vaccinated. You know, but hey, I got COVID So still here, everybody, be careful to solve it. Go get vaccinated. Not not about be safe not to put your mask on. Just go get vaccinated. Did anybody else see that tweet?
Jonathan Bing:Let me ask him, Jerry. Jerry, what's wrong with him issuing the PSA? What's that? Yeah, because what's wrong with him is issuing a PSA. What's wrong with him being responsible? What I mean? Because you know, you guys are you do what you're making it sound as if he should have came out and not been responsible. So I'm just listening to Jerry, it to me, you're, you seem like you're ready to pounce on the former president. Because he did some responsible. He said, Hey, go get vaccinated. He didn't say, you know, take your acid down there. Are you going to die or whatever? He record, he made a recommendation, okay? Plumbers come out and make a recommendation. Okay, that pipe looks it looks like it's gonna last you know, but you may have a problem in like six months after I recommend you change it right now. He made a recommendation, which everyone does. And it seemed as if you're looking to call him out for his recommendation. And when that now once one second. He didn't tell you you had to. Alright. So when so when you guys make recommendations like oh, no, I don't go get it. Because just a dat How can you go get it? It's thing is over, you know, but you guys shouldn't be called out as a double standard. Now, Yo,
Jerry Malcolm:you know, that's a very good point. Mr. Jonathan Bing. That's a very good point. And I agree with everything you just said. However, I was not about to call out Barack Obama. I was about to call out his message. I was about to call out the timing of his message. It was interesting the timing of his message. Okay, all of a sudden, March. It came. We weren't talking about it. We weren't really talking about it. Then here comes the war. Now sudden the war. Now let's get this party started again. Now all of a sudden China got 50 million lockdown and Barack Obama. Coincidentally timing lies is on Twitter saying that he got COVID Oh, and guess what y'all make sure y'all go get vaccinated not none about Stan six feet away not about being safe with your mask. It was about the vaccine. So if it seemed like I was calling the President out, I was calling out his message. But so yeah, so I guess you know, heart heart right, brother.
Jonathan Bing:You know something that's crazy. Glaber You're right. COVID COVID me it came and you know, and you know and play tricks on you guys. And he didn't COVID Like I'm gonna hide I'm gonna jump on the president the former president at the right time to make it seem suspicious. Because what do you just say me You misunderstood me my brother. God didn't say called. No, no, no. You said I didn't No, no, no. What? What will you seeing something like that? The timing is suspicious. Okay, so so obviously suspicious.
Unknown Speaker:Because guess what? Guess what? Okay,
Jonathan Bing:one second. One second. One second. You're not gonna interrupt me while I'm talking? Okay. That's what that's not gonna happen. Alright, so you're saying this suspicious, alright. Like the like key plan to get COVID Right. That part right there is where you lose me and you lose a lot of credibility. When you say stuff like that. Jerry because he didn't have To get COVID He didn't go get COVID This stuff happens to happen. Just like when I got it COVID I didn't plan to get COVID I, you know, I was trying to avoid COVID at all costs. So for you to say is suspicious that someone got COVID at a particular time, what you're implying is that either he got COVID purposely, it doesn't have COVID. So that's the only thing that can be suspicious about that. The announcement itself is not suspicious of he has it, he has it. And I you.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, first of all, first of all, Mr. Bing, I don't even think I used the word suspicious the way you said I used it. Number one, it did. I learned everyone. Alright, number two. Number two, I gotta say this, because once you put some words out there and sticks with people, I gained major credibility, what I said, so let me put that energy out there. I gain major credibility, what I said, I truly believe and I'm fully aware that COVID is still out there. I am just saying it's interesting. The timing, not saying not saying that he doesn't have COVID but it is interesting, the timing of the PSA, and is directed straight towards the vaccine. How about hey, I COVID Everybody's still out there, be safe, make sure you get your social distance, etc, etc. It was all about the vaccine. What's interesting also, is there was no more vaccine push when the war started. Now that that's calmed down a little bit as far as the news. Let's go and crank this back up. So now you got the president pushing on this PSA, as you say, and we got this headline. Sign on lockdown. 51 million Debbie, Debbie, Debbie, Debbie, you are in the building. Miss Debbie.
Jonathan Bing:No, before we go to Miss Debbie. I want to do this real quick.
Jerry Malcolm:Oh, he bought the terribIe.
Jonathan Bing:Daniel, he's just saying something that that's just false. Okay, cool. No one stopped talking about getting vaccinated. Okay. COVID has been here. Now I understand that unenlightened may choose to say all COVID They stopped talking about it because unlikely want to say that is not being spoken about but the unenlightened. You know, guess what? COVID is here. No one stopped talking about it. People are still getting their shots. People are still getting their boosters, people are still doing what they supposed to do. So don't say that. We stopped talking about it. No, we didn't. Okay, we just left you guys out there to fend for yourselves. Because you can't take you can't you can lead a horse to water. You can't make them drink. Guess what if you guys want to go ahead out there and take your chances, then go ahead and take your chances that God is that's the only thing that's happening here. But the people that get need all the messages still get a message.
Jerry Malcolm:And I disagree with you. I disagree. I'm gonna tell you why I disagree. I'm gonna say for the umpteenth time. You said for the UN. So in other words, the people is not vaccinating aren't looking for the for the headlines? Well, I'm gonna tell you this. There's no president or former president that put out a tweet recently, in February, March period. Once again, I'm talking to the stage now stage about being responsible. 51 million people are in lockdown in China. 51 mean, that's the headlines stage. Another headline or another thing. Barack Obama tweeted he caught COVID. And part of the message the main part was go get vaccinated. All I'm saying is it's just ironic the timing. I'm not saying he don't have COVID. Debbie, go No. Go ahead, Debbie. Go ahead, Debbie.
Unknown Speaker:John, Jonathan, you're missing the part that happened 12 hours after Brock Obama, quote unquote, declared that he had COVID. Do you know what happened? 12 hours after that. Tell me about the conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy. Good. Somebody. Pfizer CEO says there's a fourth booster coming 12 hours after Barack Obama is telling everybody to go get vaccinated. Okay. Did you know that?
Jonathan Bing:Did you know that? Because every I don't believe anything to get you anti vaxxers Saying it correct. She's correct. I think she is right. He's definitely
Unknown Speaker:it's not terrible. Look
Unknown Speaker:it up Catherine. Right, Jonathan?
Unknown Speaker:Want to be a fist and the six and a seven.
Jerry Malcolm:Or any one person at a time listening? Running one person at a time is a little confusing. Try. Listen all you guys. Dr. Catherine. Dr. Catherine, would you say Dr. Catherine Elgar I need to keep your mic muted. Please. I don't wanna put your audience glare Dr. Cathy.
Unknown Speaker:I don't think it's as suspicious as Debbie's making it up to be the Pfizer CEO has been talking about how they're making a fourth vaccine for a really long time now. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:The first two have a 0% rate of working Do you Do you remember that? He came out and he said that the first two shots Debbie's
Unknown Speaker:correct, Debbie
Jerry Malcolm:Debbie, once again, Debbie, Debbie, do me a favor. Debbie. Send me that link because I saw it but I'll have the link if you could do me a favor. Just help me Debbie know about the about the first two vaccines weren't I mean, the second first and second boost you don't talk about the first thing you said about the boosters
Jonathan Bing:that yeah, hey, guess what, guys, I got a product and 0% works, but go ahead and buy it anyway. You guys are lost your goddamn mind. So now we're not posted. Well, you tell my post something President
Unknown Speaker:the President said this this isn't just like Debbie just making stuff up. The Pfizer President said this about the first two shots and it deserves to
Unknown Speaker:be heard.
Jonathan Bing:I believe that to be fake news. Let's
Jerry Malcolm:go. I'm gonna pull it up. He did say it's
Unknown Speaker:fake news.
Jonathan Bing:Because what you guys are saying is about the variance. This is crazy. But go ahead. Let's go Jerry issue, anti vaxxers world I'm just I'm just living in it. It's worth
Unknown Speaker:what variants.
Unknown Speaker:So I'd like to see
Unknown Speaker:what's the variant of China that's causing a lockdown?
Jerry Malcolm:Do they say we Pfizer CEO, metals claims? Okay, okay. I'm gonna look.
Jonathan Bing:No, no, what's the source? Because I'm not putting
Jerry Malcolm:anything. No, I'm not gonna I'm researching the back door. I'm not to put anything up. But listen before. Okay, before we go any further, I'm gonna remind everybody, when debating News, I'm going to ask you once again to ping some of your friends. Let them know we are live. ping your friends and invite them in. I got 73 shares in the wall. Give me two over 100 It's not going to cost you anything. And also, I'm going to bring you 18 People up when you come to the stage. Definitely join the conversation. Somebody says something to Jerry before I made that a little announcement who was that? Somebody says I'm jumping. That was
Unknown Speaker:definitely out there. Check your text. Information from CNN.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay. Okay, cool. Okay. Anybody else want to jump in? Yeah, I just think it's genius. Grant CB Yes.
Unknown Speaker:But I think the point is, is that and what what what Jonathas and we're looking at Obama. And and the you know, they're the two things are mutually exclusive. Okay, so the situation with the vaccine with the booster, but Obama saying that he has COVID? How can someone negate that essentially, if you're negating it, you're calling him in a liar in his face, or it's like, they're mutually exclusive. A person said, I have COVID. Period. That's it. And then the next thing is, and he and Michelle have been strong proponents of getting vaccinated. So I don't understand what the issue was. When it comes to this. I don't understand people's ideologies when they're trying to say this is conspiracy. This man and his wife have been saying this for a while I pass the mic.
Jerry Malcolm:whose mouth? Did you hear that word when you say you don't understand why people are saying this is conspiracies? Where'd you hear that today on the stage that we're conspiracies? I don't think nobody said conspiracies except you have boy, yeah, no, no.
Jonathan Bing:This is this idea that you guys are playing with words right now.
Jerry Malcolm:You know, you know that? No, no, no, that's a big word, though. It's a big, it's a big word. I
Unknown Speaker:have no problem dealing with the Queen's languages semantics. The bottom line is, is that semantically if someone is calling someone a liar, and then they're aligning other things, absolutely. unequivocal. Please.
Jerry Malcolm:I got a question for you. I got a question for Dr. Felicia, I got a question for you. Why are you so adamant and going in a completely different direction than what was being spoken about? Because the same direction I'm in? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, he's
Jonathan Bing:gonna let me say this.
Jerry Malcolm:I know. But John, if you allow me to speak, brother, if you just allow me just to speak for a second. This is what she said. First, she said, conspiracy. And nobody used that word. Then she said, No, wait, one second. One second. One second mean? Y'all let me know. But one second, but this you should use them even bigger. If you're gonna call the man a liar. Who's calling the man a liar. The Jerry said timing, timing, timing. I said the timing is interesting. I didn't say the man's a liar.
Unknown Speaker:I'm talking about the culture of this conversation is the inference inference. Sherry is not the man is saying that he has COVID. And then we did a spin on it, to take it to another level to say, Well, isn't it ironic that blah, blah, blah, about the booster shop and I don't need to call out names. Check the
Jerry Malcolm:doctor, Felicia, we know we can keep what you're saying right now. Right? You and I agree with you. You said we put a spin on it. Just like he put a spin on the message. His message was I have COVID Then he goes into part two, where it was more of a thing about go get
Unknown Speaker:vaccines. Why is it something about that from day one?
Jerry Malcolm:I'm not I'm not doubting that.
Unknown Speaker:The vaccine since day one.
Jonathan Bing:He has, you know, everybody Yeah, we really are the day Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:we got to have a scientific mindset, right, we got to have the ability to rethink and unlearn some things. All right through. Barack Obama and his family been saying a whole bunch of stuff. But at the same time, we do have to question the timing on it. When I read it, I'm fascinated when I read it, I read it and it's a shout out, shout it out at me. It was in bold letters when I read it, because No, he didn't talk about PPP, he talked about the vaccination. All right, give people that opportunity to challenge that and have that right to talk about it. The other thing is back on to in my opinion, what he was really talking about considering with COVID Give me one second guys, I'm gonna pass the mic. Okay.
Unknown Speaker:What he's telling you is that he's consistent he's been talking about vaccines all along. So now he announces that he has COVID And then he says yes, and we still want you to go and get the vaccine so he's consistent if he had said anything else you got he changed his
Jonathan Bing:mind. Now he Oh, he before he was talking about it, you know it now even even he knows he didn't mention that one word about it. And you guys know you said but you guys will step in line say I love to turn the mic back. Oh, you guys are gonna lie and say that's not what you would have said. And you know, that's what you would have said okay, because any goddamn thing that changes when you guys say oh, they need to end this they need to end these restrictions and when the entity restrictions What did you guys do? Oh, why they ended the restriction? See is a lie. I mean, and that's what's going on here. Okay, the man has not changed his message. But yet you guys because he hasn't changed his message. You're like, oh, it's suspicious. Or it's interesting you know, come on, man. Give me a break.
Jerry Malcolm:I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk to him. No, you land it did you land yet before did you land yet before I let Barbara tear that asset up? Did you land so Barbara Barbara barbers getting warmed up. Are you ready?
Unknown Speaker:I'm not gonna are actually, I think that people are intimating. There's something suspicious between Obama saying he's got COVID And you know, trying to doing a lockdown. I'm gonna agree that that's just that's a reach. And it's also unproductive. I'm gonna say this. I think it's the worst sales pitch I've ever heard. Hey, listen, I been I've had the booster. I have had both shots. I have COVID get a vaccine. It is the worst sales pitch I've ever heard in my entire life. Does anybody agree with me?
Unknown Speaker:I agree. Is that what Yes? Yes.
Jerry Malcolm:What is your kind of low CB? CB, you got to come on. You got to turn up here. If you got headphones on, you might take more because you kind of low. Yeah, if you got headphones on, you might wanna take them off.
Unknown Speaker:Here. Yeah.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, yeah, that's better right there. Go ahead. Yes. I'm
Unknown Speaker:saying yeah, it really doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter anyway, to the folks who are not going to get vaccinated way it could be on booster 456 Or seven, it really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if the advertisement is good or bad. You're not going to get it you're not going to get it. So you know, at the end of the day, you don't worry about it, you know? Right. That's That's what that's my point. And, and to the fact that the President advisor went ahead and put that message out. I think it was genius. Everybody was jumping online to read Brock Obama's tweet, right. So now the market is open, why not go ahead and put the other message out while the market is up? And why you got everyone's attention?
Jerry Malcolm:Exactly. There you go.
Jonathan Bing:Because you can't tie in what you just said, bro. No, you can't tie in what you just said, Jerry. I I'm gonna stand in the way of you turning this boat. okay to say that Southwest what you're trying to say? Because I mean, I knew that's what not, you know, you are not going to turn and pivot and say that's what you're trying to say. Because
Jerry Malcolm:I want you all I realize what's going on right now in debate the news. This is straight abuse at the hands of Jonathan Bing against me. Barbie got her back, Jerry. I am sitting here being abused. Barbara, I am being abused. Just because in March, they stopped talking about it. Everything stopped right at the beginning of March. No nothing,
Unknown Speaker:right? 100% Correct.
Jerry Malcolm:And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Barbara talk about it. No, no, no. No, Catherine. Dr. Katz, I'm talking about something you're not talking about. Right now. I'm talking about these known people on Twitter or ex presidents and stuff like that. Now all of a sudden, huh? Okay, we pause for a second. Boom. Okay, boom, we did this. Okay, cool. All right. Cool. How much we get 40. Okay, let's start it up again.
Jonathan Bing:Brock Obama's monthly tweets about COVID vaccination. Greg, you just he has COVID Exactly. Show me his monthly team. You're digging a hole to dig yourself out of.
Jerry Malcolm:I don't have to dig myself out of the hole brother just because I did.
Jonathan Bing:If it's not logical
Jerry Malcolm:about this, I don't have to do it on a different wavelength but it doesn't matter. Because because this is just abuse. Brahms can mute my mic.
Jonathan Bing:Absolutely, guys, once again, guys, I'm gonna tell you something, I anti vaxxers. Man, you guys want the world and then when you get it, you guys is not enough. Okay? And because this man was consistent, this man has been consistent. Okay. And his messaging whenever he had to speak about this, okay, when you look at the commercial that was shot between Windhelm, Bill Clinton and George George W. Bush, they did that shot outside of DC on inauguration day with a shout about getting a vaccine and everything else in my COVID. They did that, but he's been consistent in his messaging. So it's only makes it only makes sense that when he caught COVID that he did bring up the vaccination, because that's what he's been doing. For you guys who say, Here's how interesting it is, and that he didn't bring up social distancing and PPP exact words, by the way, that you're not saying, Oh, I noticed that it was suspicious. I never say but you intimated that and you did hard. Okay. You it was hard. And then you try to back it up with a CD with some voodoo facts. Okay, and then it didn't work. And now you say, oh, exactly what someone gives you offer him? No, you don't get that off ramp today. Because you're wrong. You were wrong about this. China right now guys have 51 people didn't lock down. Because guess what, this is a virus. Now China has this. That community is pretty, I guess, sealed off. And so guess what? Omicron is just hitting China. Because they did a damn good job. I get it out. All the cron just burn through us. Okay, February, January, February, though, excuse me. December, December, January and February. Just burn through us. So we're like, oh, yeah, we're past it. No, it burned itself out. Alright, so and now he's gonna burn stuff through China. That's what happens with these viruses. But now you see, oh, wow. All sudden, China getting this China getting that China did not have the Omicron I guess, surge that we had already. Now they're getting a little bit behind us. So when you guys sit here and try say Oh, this is all being manufactured. It's bad. I watch my fools look like idiot. I mean, my friends look like idiot. And I'm like my fools to I guess my mother call you my fools. My friends look like idiots when they get up here. And they speak about this subject and they just lose their goddamn mind. And I yield the mic to Jerry.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah. Mike to me. Wait, wait, hold on a second. Wait, wait. He said he'll the mic. Are you sure Cuz you gotta take it back in five more seconds. Let's start talking.
Jonathan Bing:Let's not talk about the communicate. Let's not talk about the communication. Let's talk about what's what we're talking about.
Jerry Malcolm:Look at this. I'm going to open up the chat. I'm going to open up chat right about now. And I want you guys to jump in there. And tell me what you guys feel about this conversation. But I will do facts. Wait, wait one second before before you go into that one second. Pfizer? I don't know if you guys are aware of this. But I mean, it may just be a coincidence. It is the biggest profit in history of anything. This Pfizer vaccines, the biggest profit in history, and there's a lot of people accusing them. And we'll see what happens is a lot of claims and cases being filed against them about profiteering profiteering, you know, as far as this COVID Does, I mean, as far as this vaccine goes, so it's cool for right now. You know, I'll be the outcast on the stage right now. Because what I'm saying, and I'll stick with that, Mr. Jonathan Bing, I'll stick with that. But is there anybody once again, I open the chat? Well, let me open it right now. Make sure it's open. I'm going to open a chat. And you guys can go in there and share what y'all think about this situation. Anybody else want to jump in? Hey, Jerry, it's Peter. How you doing? Pretty good.
Grant Cardone:Good. Yeah, I'd
Unknown Speaker:like to just jump in on the on the China's situation. You know, one of the things that we have to look at here, too, is Shenzen. China, the biggest port, or I think it's the second largest port in China is completely shut down. All of the manufacturing facilities in that area are also shut down. So this is not only are the people in China being impacted by the virus, which by the way, I think probably ended up spreading because they just got back from Chinese New Year. And this year, they all traveled where last year, they were on lockdown. But with these ports, and that manufacturing being closed, this is exactly what created all the supply line and logistics issues we faced over the last year and a half. It's going to be round two of this stuff. So we're going to see not only prices increasing right now because of gas, but now we're going to see it again because of supply chain backups. It's going to be a nasty nasty situation.
Jerry Malcolm:Right, right. Okay. All right. So yeah, anybody else have has a thought on what we're speaking about. Anybody else thinks Gerry's absolutely crazy for what he's saying, Go ahead, and you can speak on and I'll accept it. Go ahead. No, I think I'm absolutely crazy.
Unknown Speaker:I you know what I just I, I'm very curious. And if people want to type it in the chat, are people going to get that fourth booster now that Obama has come out and you know, still supporting the vaccine? Are people going to get the fourth booster because somebody on here said that people that haven't been backs are never going to get backs. And that that might be true, but there are people such as myself are that are 100% vaccinated? And I'm done. I'm not getting the booster. I don't think it's a threat to my health. I don't trust it. I see all the adverse reactions. And I, I think the fact that they're, you know, I'm against the medical mandates, overall, but I'm curious if people are
Unknown Speaker:gonna say Barbets Mary Lynn, I was gonna say, I think it's a slippery slope.
Unknown Speaker:Maryland. Let me just say this. To be clear, there's no recommendation from the CDC that healthy people who've been boosted our ticket, the fourth vaccine, she's just making this up on speculation. I'm not
Unknown Speaker:making anything up. I didn't I didn't know all you hear is go get another one that the backmatter don't work. I mean, dial it back, Catherine. I never said anything.
Unknown Speaker:I've done early Catterall.
Unknown Speaker:You're getting so defensive, Catherine, and I tried. For the last year telling everybody to go get the vaccine. And you had talked over Mary Lynn, you just talked over Mary Lynn, like her voice doesn't even count. You're some voice of constant arrogates arrogance, and it really is irritating. You've said nothing about adverse reactions to vaccines. Yet people are having blood clots. They're having seizures. They're myocarditis. episode after episode after episode, Maryland. I'll pass the mic to you take it away.
Unknown Speaker:I was just gonna say, the guy asked me to know
Unknown Speaker:you interrupted Mary Lynn. Catherine, you interrupted Mary Lynn. Let's, let's call a spade a spade she was Barbara. Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:I was just gonna say the guy on the stage said so who cares if the fourth minute if you get a fourth booster? Who cares? What's it to you? What's it to you? I think it's a slippery slope. Because now there's going to be more requirements. I recruit for the automotive industry. I already have people who, you know dealerships who won't hire people unless they're vaccinate they were just starting to back off of that people were just being hired. And if that goes into effect, and now I think we're going to go backwards.
Unknown Speaker:Cool thing.
Jerry Malcolm:Go ahead, jumping
Jonathan Bing:out the captain Samson. What was it Dr. Catherine? Oh.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I was gonna say this. I have a moderator badge. Marilyn does not I was speaking. Oh my god. Stop interrupting me, bitch. Okay. She's go down.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, Catherine. Whoa. Whoever booted Catherine?
Jonathan Bing:Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, I want to tell you something for one second. Listen, if anyone moves any goddamn moderators down? Yeah, I'm moderating everyone. Okay, this is not that goddamn room that you do that in. This is
Unknown Speaker:this is debate the news.
Unknown Speaker:Let's go on they should be able to catch. Well, she's my friend.
Jerry Malcolm:What did I miss? What I missed what happened?
Unknown Speaker:throw somebody on the camera.
Unknown Speaker:I don't think Barbara would have done that to Katherine call.
Jonathan Bing:No, I know that. I know. Barbara would have done that. I know Barbara. Want to know.
Jerry Malcolm:Where's Dr. Catherine? How do we know she didn't let me just make sure she let me see she moved herself. Now she sees
Jonathan Bing:herself. So Dr. Catherine? Once
Jerry Malcolm:again. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's let's just keep it going. When she comes back to the stage, she comes back to the stage. I don't know what I miss, but okay, let's just pick it back.
Jonathan Bing:Oh, man. Yo, you know, you guys give him out. Man. Oh, man. See white woman fight like that, man. I know y'all. I know. Y'all get down like that. Like that. Hell, y'all get violent.
Unknown Speaker:They go crazy. Ladies branded show baby.
Unknown Speaker:The ladies are bringing a
Jerry Malcolm:show. I got I got I got a question for everybody. Okay, and let me let me see. Let me see what y'all think about this or not think let me see what y'all if y'all can put a number on it. How much money do y'all think Baraka paid for that commercial when he said go get the vaccine. How much money he got paid.
Jonathan Bing:That's not That's not
Unknown Speaker:carry zero, y'all.
Jerry Malcolm:No, no, no, no, Johnson Hold on a second. I'm not just speaking crazy. y'all. Y'all are crazy. Me I'm explaining to you I got friends in the entertainment business I got receipts I can show y'all. I got friends in the entertainment business get hit up consistently about putting some on their Instagrams and getting paid for it consistently, consistently on their Twitter. Are you kidding me? Do you actually think that Brock Obama do? Y'all crazy
Unknown Speaker:and Jerry, are you thinking?
Unknown Speaker:Yes, he does. We already know billions. Billions of dollars were spent on pushing the VAX billion can I believe? So watching this video
Jerry Malcolm:do you have any proof? No, listen. No, no, listen. Listen, listen, let me explain something to you. Let me explain something to you. I just asked a question. I didn't make a statement. I asked the question Is anybody
Jonathan Bing:passionately defended that after you? Okay, well, well now.
Jerry Malcolm:No, no, no, no, no, I am because it's okay for me to get my to get my point. I'm not I'm not just a go along with the ride. I believe 100% He got paid. I believe 100% He got paid. Just like my three friends. They get hit up consistently. Because they got millions of people on their IG.
Jonathan Bing:Three friends and Brock Obama. Yep, yep. Yep. Your three friends are broccoli. No, no. Yeah, exactly. That's why I'm saying we seem like we're creating the news right
Jerry Malcolm:now. What? Wait, wait, who has that question?
Jonathan Bing:Right there who asked the question? That was a dumb question. It wasn't
Jerry Malcolm:because this is debating the news.
Jonathan Bing:No, we're not. That's not the news. There was no.
Jerry Malcolm:You creating the news? No, there is news about COVID and there's news about
Jonathan Bing:I'm gonna mute my mic. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take five minutes. This is bullshit. Okay.
Jerry Malcolm:Anybody else want to jump in and what do you call the bol Shi T anybody else want to jump in?
Unknown Speaker:I do want to go ahead
Jerry Malcolm:ice let me go to ice first. I'm gonna go back to Tara glad ice.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, Jerry. Appreciate you, Jonathan. What's up? So I'm pivoting slightly. Our mayor is in a shitload of trouble on KD called out Mayor Adams because Kyrie can go to the game, walk with the team onto the court walked with the team to the locker room, and he still can't play. Now is this because he's going to make somebody sick? Like, what are we doing here? This is the message that we're sending to the people. So of course, we're going to be rebellious. And question the bullshit that's going on.
Unknown Speaker:Doing is bullshit. But that's a fact. What they're doing. It makes no common sense, whatsoever. But who the hell is standing up to that? Nobody. Nobody's doing anything about it. What?
Unknown Speaker:Kevin Durant had an interview after the next game. And he said, Mayor Adams, what are we doing?
Unknown Speaker:Exactly what you see the hypocrisy. They don't like the fact that he stood up for what he believed it. And they're punishing him for it. Simple as that. They're, they're using him as an example. Is anyone not seeing that? I'm pretty sure they realize how it doesn't make any sense. It's not it's like, nonsensical, they see that. But make an example. It's clear. There's nothing are you here? They're using him as a scapegoat. And it's unfortunate until people start saying I'm not going to NBA games. We stopped spending our money but the NBA, then no, listen, hurt their pockets. That's the best form of protest is hurt their pockets.
Unknown Speaker:There's not that important. I was not that important.
Unknown Speaker:Enough. Okay, this cheer up when when you get a chance, Jared,
Unknown Speaker:tend to jump in after.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, so the three ex presidents who all did a two PSAs public service announcements, literally, you know, if you think they got paid, prove it show us the receipts, it is highly unlikely they would have been paid for that. They believed in the vaccine, they all got vaccinated, etc. Even Donald Trump got vaccinated he just was not willing to or maybe was not asked, Who knows to do a commercial. So if you've got any evidence of this, please provided but There literally is nothing so you're making it up? If you're saying that Okay, number two,
Unknown Speaker:you don't even have evidence that they were actually vaccinated. We also the fate of going around. Wait, wait one second.
Jerry Malcolm:Wait one second. One second. chair, chair one sec. Let me say it's okay. Since you since you address what I said. Let me just say some okay. You're absolutely right. I do not have any evidence that Barack Obama got paid to do that commercial. You're absolutely right. Just like you don't have any evidence that he didn't. Now the reason why I said it is not because I know some people who got offered To be paid it's not because of that. It's because I know that that's what they're doing. The drug companies is offering people that they got influencing this actors and stuff like that, and entertainers to push it on their social platforms, their Twitter's and their Instagram. So if they're doing it to those people, people as entertainers and you know, got a little buzz, I guess it's just so far fetched. Oh, my God, no, he's exempt because he's an ex president. You know, a terror I'm gonna say is my bad that's very crazy of me to think that they would actually go to an ex president and offering money. They offered all these other people all this other marketing they're putting behind is the biggest drug in history, the biggest product in history, as far as revenue being made, but you're right. I'm crazy for thinking that my bad Did you have a part too terrible for
Unknown Speaker:me? I did. Listen, like wait, wait,
Jerry Malcolm:bro, bro. Bro. You gotta mute your mic while she's going. Go ahead here. Hey. So
Unknown Speaker:listen, ex presidents basically have their view is that they have to help people. Okay, now you can make you can claim that they are getting paid, etc. Barack Obama has a shit ton of money right now from a Netflix contract, etc. I don't believe he needs whatever money there is. And I don't believe he did it. But you're right. Nobody can prove it. Do you
Jerry Malcolm:are crazy as what you just said your argument that that is cherry you know? Better I respect you. And now you just said some credit. So crazy. Take some of your credibility out the way. So there's there's Magic Johnson have a shitload of money. So everything he does from this point on is gonna be free. That's
Jonathan Bing:why she was talking Oh.
Jerry Malcolm:Come on, bro. I'm a moderate. That's why I interrupted, y'all need to chill. Go grant grant grant here.
Unknown Speaker:So then what happens is when I say that it admittedly all of us are expressing an opinion here, right? All of us. We hear some people on this stage literally say, Well, they didn't actually take the vaccine anyway, which is completely bizarre, okay, this means that the all of these people are lying, they got a empty shot, they got a different vaccine. All of you people who are expressing these sort of conspiracy theories, once again, provide any semblance of proof that they don't believe it. I know a ton of people got the vaccine. We didn't do anything special. We stood on our line, we signed up, we got the vaccine. What are you talking about? Why do you need to do this? Maybe that's the question. Why do you think you need to do this to come up with crazy conspiracy theories? But oh, they didn't get a vaccine? Oh, we don't know. You know, somebody posts a picture, you know, like, like, Bill Gates posts a picture of himself chair.
Jerry Malcolm:One second, one second, once I get to do me a favor, do me a favor. Do me a favor when you when you say that if you can address the person with that particular part, because I know you weren't talking to me. But it could imply you stalking me because I didn't say that that other person said,
Unknown Speaker:as I said they didn't get paid immediately said, Well, you know what, I don't even know that was the right vaccine. They didn't get anything. Did you hear that? I heard in response to that.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, why people? muted. I understand why people believe that. First of all, do you really want your presidents and people who have high importance to be taking something that could potentially be dangerous, because again, they don't really know because it has not been studied for long, I can see that. I can see why some people wouldn't believe that these presidents and people have high importance and not get the vaccine, because God forbid, something does happen to them. They're going to lose trust overall with the entire world so I can see why they wouldn't get vaccinated. So that's my point of view. I don't think it's a conspiracy theory. But I do think there is some logical thought there. And also this point that Jerry made about Brock Obama, getting paid influencers get paid, we thought tick tock stars, 18 years old, going to the White House, and getting paid to influence people to get the shot. However, I will say this, I think it's too dangerous to leave any type of paper trail by paying a former president.
Jonathan Bing:You know what, I want to tell you something right now, okay. And this is this is so fucking disappointment. And I'm be honest with you, there's no news out there to say the rock got paid. So you guys are making shit up and then disgusting. But you guys are discussing it now. Like we are one second we have 51 million people that have COVID Okay, we got a Brexit president had the virus. We got Russia, begging China for help. And the United States tell him not to help we get the United States economy going in and tell it but we're going to talk about this shit because why? I don't know.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry brought it up. But the real question is why the hell does it matter? So what what if he did get paid? What does it change? Right Alex Jones gets paid to tell people not to take the virus. What the hell does it mean? What the hell does it matter? It makes no progress in the conversation by suggesting possibly Barack Obama got paid
Jerry Malcolm:Row row we don't need you to get give us a what I bought it up because I felt it makes sense TC TC we don't need you to come we don't need you to we don't need you to come tell us what makes progress that's the opinion because it because you say it don't don't don't mean if it does or doesn't I'm just saying because you say it does it no no you don't like it because I'm against you right now how about that but you don't need to say what makes progress you're not you're not paying on this stage to make us determine Wakeman makes progress and what doesn't okay TC
Unknown Speaker:share my opinion. I'm
Jerry Malcolm:just sharing my right just like I share my opinion just like and I feel they may progress.
Jonathan Bing:Good Tenzin. Let's pivot over this guy.
Unknown Speaker:Has any ex president ever done anything for free in your country? Like charity? Like something like that? Not getting paid, even if it's 10?
Jonathan Bing:Can you guys tell me one second one second? Can you guys give me the article and a news where the hell this is taking place? Because right now we're arguing ghosts. We're arguing imaginary this shit and we're gonna pay it off this shit and go to real fucking news. We have a goddamn enough for it. But we don't need to make up the goddamn news.
Unknown Speaker:Everything done anything for free. Whether it's
Unknown Speaker:a book Barak Obama
Unknown Speaker:every year on on Martin Luther King Day basically goes to a fool. Oh
Unknown Speaker:my god, I'm
Unknown Speaker:telling you he has a foundation. Okay. There are plenty of ex presidents who do some things for free. So what are you talking about?
Unknown Speaker:Obama's not a credible source.
Unknown Speaker:Wait a second. Wait a second. Seriously, if he has a foundation,
Unknown Speaker:he's getting paid money somewhere
Unknown Speaker:Jimmy Caan and Bill, Bill Holmes with the wind.
Unknown Speaker:Does it matter he gets paid? Let's say he did get paid what the hell does it matter? Is it changing any policy? Is it getting
Unknown Speaker:people to get the vaccine that surprise everybody
Unknown Speaker:else that is a public figure they're influencing this this conversation but it doesn't change anything. Make a point say okay, Barack Obama got paid it was illegal. He shouldn't have done it. blase, blase, blah. This interferes with public policy. Jericho made that point but by saying that he gets paid to say go take a vaccine. What the hell does it matter? Again, at least John gets paid to say the opposite when you don't know
Unknown Speaker:this questioning his credibility.
Unknown Speaker:Well, Donald Trump told his people to go take it didn't nobody say anything Donald Trump told him.
Unknown Speaker:When he told his people to go take the vaccine is safe. Did he get paid straw man argument? That's a good point. Yeah, he
Unknown Speaker:also didn't do a commercial for Pfizer, but I don't believe Donald Trump would have made the mandates that well, how
Unknown Speaker:did I see it if he didn't do a commercial because I saw it on TV. He didn't do a commercial TV. I saw it on TV, but there's a difference. So I want to know, if he got paid
Unknown Speaker:trade, he didn't do anything for Pfizer, or Maderna, or Johnson and Johnson. That's what that's not just because he went and showed everybody gave a shot.
Unknown Speaker:What's wrong with working with a drug company that he believes in? He believes in the vaccine, just like millions and millions of Americans? And so he went on and did it and support with them in conjunction with the company that was releasing the vaccine? Well, I'm just trying to figure out what what's what's what's Why is that such a big deal?
Unknown Speaker:Jonathan, what's the conversation we're having about? What is it? Is there a news? Is there some facts that we
Unknown Speaker:talk about? The Russia and the India situation? It's pretty interesting, what just came out earlier today. So I'm not sure if you're ready to pivot yet. Just thought I.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. Go ahead and give the girl Let's go. Okay. So
Unknown Speaker:basically, if something just came out earlier today, that India is wholeheartedly more than happy to purchase oil at a reduced price that's being offered by Russia. And they're also going to be purchasing more natural resources from them, as well as weaponry from them. So at some point, India was purchasing almost 80% of their military equipment from Russia, and over the time, they've kind of you know, cut that down. However, they're picking up speed on that. It's interesting because in Nash, the international community isn't really speaking poorly about this. They're not really going against India and saying that, hey, you shouldn't be supporting someone who is a part of pretty vicious battle that is affecting Ukraine and surrounding European countries. So it's really interesting that India didn't even say it just came out. And the minister said, Yeah, we are. It's a good deal. So I can provide that article to Jonathan and Jerry to verify in the back channel. But I'm wondering what you guys think about what would happen. Do you think that India was gonna get sanction in some way because India also fired a, I think it was a rocket into Pakistan by accident over the weekend, and said, oops, we're sorry. And Indian Pakistan has had a rivalry for years. So they're kind of showing signs of becoming the aggressors. And when there were votes, in terms of how they feel about Russia, they've stayed extremely neutral, they have not gone against Putin at all. It seems like they've got a pretty close friendship. Okay,
Unknown Speaker:interesting. I think that's very interesting. So does that is that really saying that India is siding with Putin?
Unknown Speaker:They're gonna get sanctioned for it.
Unknown Speaker:Well, let's see what the international community isn't really stepping up and saying anything, I think I can send the article and you guys can go through it even in our chat here. But it's really interesting that they're not getting punished the way in which other countries has been for showing any level of support towards Russia, they're putting it off as this is just a good deal. This is just cheap oil. This is just discarded oil, military weapons. Why not? They're not really saying that. But honestly, it's a world of sanctioning them. And there's a country of 2.1 billion people with major purchasing power. They can continue funding this war for a very long time. I think that should be of concern.
Unknown Speaker:So this is Christian, just some, just to go back about the Ad Council and Warner media. So I think it's important to note that on their board of directors, Johnson and Johnson's executive vice president is on their board of directors. And if you take a look at the Ag Council, as far as their top contributors, you know, companies such as Adobe, Comcast, NBC Universal, Facebook, Google Pepsi, for Ryzen, Viacom, Bank of America, Unilever, Walt Disney, Coca Cola, IBM, Twitter, and you know, the list goes on and on and on. I mean, that's basically what we saw, during the pandemic was we saw a lot of major companies that were, you know, either pushing some type of mandate or pushing the the policy that would force their employees to either get vaccinated, or to shut down their company because of what because of the fear of the virus. So while we may not know, who got paid for that specific campaign, we know it was funded by the Ad Council, and by Warner media. And we also know that many of these big players are some of the same players that were coming out, pushing the mass, and then of course, the vaccines.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I'm with you, brother. But didn't Johnson and Johnson stop their production to their vaccine? So what the point was,
Unknown Speaker:they didn't stop production, they have enough stockpile where they felt that they did not have to produce anymore, and then I believe they restarted again,
Unknown Speaker:they definitely pause there. They definitely paused their production, because there was some things that came out in the testing that indicated that there might have been an issue with with side effects, but for their vaccines, so they definitely pause it.
Unknown Speaker:But the point is, Johnson and Johnson is on the board of directors, and the Ad Council is who is responsible for this advertising?
Unknown Speaker:And yes, obviously and so is every major company, you've just named a ton of them. But that's I mean, nothing burger To be honest, big deal.
Unknown Speaker:But I mean, what if what if it means
Unknown Speaker:that powerful people have seats on boards, people who engage in a lot of advertising have seats on a board of the ad counts? Does that surprise anyone? Does that mean that Obama got paid? Come on Christian, you're better than that. What it
Unknown Speaker:means is, what it means is that the driver or the narrative of a lot of this foolishness is coming Coming from corporate America, and while the average American citizen Well, while the average American citizen may not sit down and go look up, who's actually responsible for this ad, who's on their board of directors, who are the major contributors, and then then go a little bit deeper and look at who they politically donate to what candidates are important and who and who cares. And you may be right, who cares whether or not Obama is the one that got paid for it. The point is, who is the who are the people who are funding it? And who do they support? That's what really matters.
Unknown Speaker:And Christian if I can May, I've been trying to talk for the past 40 minutes or so gives give me one minute, let me just say something you talking to God has been already radio and TV for over a third right at 30 years. Let me explain to you guys something. Back in 2012. I pay close attention to the upcoming fall throughout the summer. And they were discussing, you know, they're having issues with people not wanting to take the flu shot. Then a few years later, maybe 2014. They said it's been a record number. A lot of people are not taking the flu shot. Okay, we all decided to COVID then coming up in 2016 I can remember so clear. They said that nobody is taking the flu shot and their concern. Stockholders were complaining because their numbers had went down low. I remember going into my family I said hey guys, y'all need to be preparing gonna need to get ready because some some crap is getting ready to take place. Okay. Not long after that. When they say there was a big outbreak took place I knew something serious is about to happen. Always remember this. I've been in media and I want you to know this. Those of you that in media, let me explain something to you. Everything that's a story on main media is not a story is advertisement. Okay. It is advertisement. And always remember every president, every president, whether they have a nonprofit, whether they have a business every whether they are stockholder, you don't have to get paid to be a stockholder, you're a stockholder, you get money, you get paid. If you invest in something you're not getting, you're not gonna get paid for it. But you don't get your equal share it, you don't have to get paid for something to have your equal share. So, you know, I thought it was very ironic today that it comes out in the news and he has, because everything was quieted down, we was reopened. And now we go on to this. And listen, guys, I came in this room because I have a high level of respect of a lot of the mods in here. And a lot of people that are in here, and I know the base causes us to go 150% high. If we can just continue to debate continue to voice our opinion. So that's just our opinions. We don't know anything for facts. When Donald Trump got shot in the arm. We didn't know if he really got the actual vaccine. It could have been sugar water. We don't know. We don't know if Obama got the brick the real vaccine, it could have been sugar. We don't know that we wasn't bad. We want Kool Aid.
Jerry Malcolm:So let him say what he's saying. Don't do that. Let him finish great, bro. But
Unknown Speaker:whatever it was, he got he got us. We don't know if he actually got the vaccine. We don't know that. None of us was there when they feel that too. Right. And we don't know.
Jerry Malcolm:I you know, I appreciate your input. It was a last part that you said I didn't catch now. It's okay to I appreciate your input was that. Okay, appreciate you, bro. Once again, everybody. I want to welcome y'all to debate the news. It is Monday. And we are back in action. So once again, I want everybody look at that link up at the top debate. The news is live we are official podcast, you will be able to catch it. If you miss the show. You can watch it back you can watch the replays you can share with your friends. We got people all over the world going in watching debate the new are actually downloading debate the news on their favorite podcast system. Also, I want to thank everybody in the room join us I'm going to hand raising is open I want to invite some more people to the stage. I'm going to ask y'all I want to get back another 50 people on the stage. I also want to get my shares in the wall up to about 200. Now I was talking to pumpkin a second ago and she kind of went through the audience. I was just kind of trying to see how many of these wonderful people down at the bottom are not following the club. And we counted about 50 of you. So if you guys can follow the club pumping if you put it up there. You can put the debate the news club up there. Make it easy for him. 50 of you that we just went through right off the back of not following the club not following Jonathan and I would ask you to follow up because membership has its privileges. We got some big announcement coming real soon. So follow Jonathan Bing and follow me Jerry Malcolm and follow the bait the news. The Club. Is there anybody I also want to jump in. And so state your name, and I will go to you.
Unknown Speaker:Is ice again, just want to add to what that gentleman was just saying. And also in alignment with what we're speaking about. We need
Jerry Malcolm:to question Wait, wait one second before you go ice. I want to let everybody know I cut. I cut the chat off for a brief moment, it starts to glitch when we get to about 400 and started to glitch. So I'm going to save it and put it back on probably about another 20 minutes. So be ready to go back on chat in about 20 minutes before right now, you can come to the stage or you can share some things on the wall. So go ahead. Um, I
Unknown Speaker:thank you, Jerry, we need to question we know that Hillary has a history with Pfizer and insider trading. She released those stocks back in I believe, oh nine oh, 10. But who's to say that she did not reinvest. Right. So these presidents and these politicians, they may not have gotten paid directly, per se for advertising. But we do know that they did profit from the that one of the most profitable stock, which you mentioned earlier in the show. So and that is a problem. That is a problem. You're doing a commercial, or you're promoting taking this vaccine to get people to take this vaccine to influence the price of this vaccine and profiting from it. I wouldn't put it past them. We know our government. We know what they do to get to that bag. And my plane
Unknown Speaker:is so this is not news. You're you're basically making up stuff. I mean, you said Hillary Clinton divested herself. Is that what you said in 2000. But now you're saying well, maybe she reinvested? What is going on here. We are not debating the news. This is unfortunately I think you're trying to create the news. Let's go.
Jerry Malcolm:Here he Tara. He was just basically stating something he wanted. He just wanted to say that's all it was. He was just stating some and we can move on. He just was stated. So that's it. Is there anybody else that want to jump into this conversation? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, I want to go back to that point he made about Pakistan and India. Okay, that is Yeah, I think I think you know, what, what this conflict has really showed what's going on in your brain has really brought in the real faces of the Western media in front of everybody. Everybody, the racism is so obvious. It boils my blood. I think if if, if it's almost like, you know, the Western media has gotten together and they're saying, hey, white lives matter. Hey, bro, bro. Well, fuck everybody else.
Jerry Malcolm:And I think something's going on with a brother got to take some gold. Your mic is humming kind of loud. I don't know if you guys just
Unknown Speaker:hold on. Hold on. Okay, is it better now? Is a better no
Jerry Malcolm:it's not like it's a wind tunnel or something like that. Is there anybody else want to jump in while he fixed the little system there. Anyone else want to jump in? Just wanted to jump in. I'm gonna go too late. I'm gonna go to the lady for a second. Okay, good. Hey, good
Unknown Speaker:evening, everyone. I just like to say that you know, we don't know either way if Obama got paid, but I'll tell you something back.
Jerry Malcolm:Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. You gotta wait a second brother. Because now the lady speaking us gotta just go to you have to her okay.
Unknown Speaker:Hey, I'm just saying you know, big pharma wins, you lose. And you know what? Chloe Kardashian gets paid for doing migraine commercials. The twins that play tennis get paid for doing migraine commercials. You're gonna tell me he did that for free? I don't think so. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:What if he did do it for money? What?
Jonathan Bing:You know, something that's crazy. It's crazy that that wasn't even brought up in some time. I know that. That crazy stuff got brought up. And now all of a sudden that becomes the whole night storyline, or some bullshit. That's not even real. Let's go
Unknown Speaker:back. And it wasn't a commercial. It
Unknown Speaker:was just a toy.
Jerry Malcolm:Right? Right. Okay,
Unknown Speaker:here. Here we go. Here we go. So that whole notion of what I was saying, I think there there has to be a point that has to be made with especially I know, there's racism everywhere. I mean, I don't even need to get started on that. But I think it's pretty obvious. And I one thing one point I really want to make everybody in the audience, especially the Americans, you have to start watching other channels outside Fox TV, or CNN for that matter. The reality of the matter is you debate the news here, but your news is only American news. That is tunnel vision. And that's why you have such a triangulated vision of the world. That's why you don't understand what the hell is going on in the world. And that is what my you know, my request my message, whatever, whatever the hell you want to consider why other channels and I'm not saying you have to take
Jerry Malcolm:okay appreciate you bro but I don't know now
Unknown Speaker:I know you appreciate it. I know you appreciate it but let me finish let me land my point.
Jerry Malcolm:A chrome chrome chrome
Unknown Speaker:bottle though run forever.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah Grom you can't assume that they only watch one channel but I'll let you land your plane like you like to go ahead, bro. I'll let you land your plane like you instructed me Greg Crump.
Unknown Speaker:321
Jerry Malcolm:What's going on? Okay, I'm gonna be able to hear from you, bro. Hey, Jerry. Jerry. Jerry.
Unknown Speaker:I think I think what he was saying. I'm gonna say this quick. No, no,
Jerry Malcolm:no, I think we heard what he was saying. I think we heard loud and clear.
Unknown Speaker:No, no. Let me finish. Let me finish. If you have the balls. Let me finish. Wait,
Jonathan Bing:wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Jerry Malcolm:Wait, wait, wait, Crump. You said I have the ball.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I said that. Jerry Jerry Jerry's balls just squeezed. Because he is not letting me finish.
Jerry Malcolm:Oh, wow. Wow, let me find out. Hey, Jay, just just around around just just just just, oh, yeah, I'm not me. I'm not dumb. Definitely not muting you. I don't mute anybody. If somebody somebody's muting it. It's somebody.
Unknown Speaker:There muting? Yeah, yep. Oh,
Jerry Malcolm:okay. Well, then. Okay. Well,
Unknown Speaker:I don't know why their meeting room.
Unknown Speaker:I just told somebody selfie rock in the room.
Jonathan Bing:Yeah, roll. Let's let's go on to the
Jerry Malcolm:glare Toronto.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. very humbly, very politely, I would love for you guys to watch other channels. And whenever you talk to your local, you know, government officials, or whatever you I mean, I've been listening to your room for a while now, you got to have a more global vision of the world that you live in. You cannot be crying for your brain, while people are dying in Palestine. You cannot be crying for Ukraine while people are getting killed by the same country in Syria, which is Russia, by the way. So you gotta you got to expand your vision of the world that you live in. That's all I'm saying.
Jerry Malcolm:Thank you so much. Hey, I appreciate you for that. And thank you for your input. And once again, welcome to bait news, brother. Okay. Now, is there anybody else that want to jump in in this conversation today? We
Unknown Speaker:had a really great point,
Unknown Speaker:I think that we do, I think that we can be very myopic when we listen to just one channel. I think he makes some great points. We have to think outside the box, we have to engage more in critical thinking, and I appreciate what he said. So I just wanted to back that up.
Jonathan Bing:I, BB I listen, I actually watch I actually watch algae here. Okay, often. And so when he said he made that statement, I was gonna stay quiet because I didn't want to get into it. You know? So he's making an assumption that we don't, okay, that's the first mistake he's making that he makes. He's making a mistake that we're all Americans in here. That's the second mistake he's making. Okay. So, you know, he says that, you know, he's paying everyone, like, all you guys are doing, you guys are not okay. I'm one of the main moderators. I know. I look at allergies here. Okay, I look at it every day. Well, almost every day, not more than that. More than that. We, we text each other. So when you start making that statement, I let it go. Alright. But then, like I said, and it's not just Americans, this Canadians in here. There's people from Africa in this here. There are people from Europe here. So when you make that statement, you chastise a bunch of Americans. Yeah, I give it to you is a lot of Americans here. But there's people from Iran here right now. So you know, what? Do you make that statement? We got enough people here to balance it out. But I'll take that in consideration. I'll, I don't know. I'll find something else. I'll look at our tea. Okay, if it makes you feel better, if I can find it now that I've been taken off.
Jerry Malcolm:You know, it's crazy. Wait, no, it's crazy. Jonathan. He has no idea how much we get on the phone. And we talk and researching all over the world. He has no idea that's what I was gonna say something to guys just like okay, whatever thing is only
Jonathan Bing:one thing about the United States and I subject today, we're talking about China, we're talking about that the the 51 million people locked down that's China. Okay, we're talking about Russia and China again, okay, in terms of the United States warning Russia, not to China not to and to provide economical relief and weapons to Russia. So, you know, when you come in here into a room that that is about world issues, okay. Now, some of some people may views may be colored by what they want. but that's the way it is, unfortunately, that's why the hell we got to debate the news. Okay, if that wasn't the case, there would be no need to debate the news, we will consume the news. Alright. And that's why you're in this room to debate the news. Get your in here to send it right and you know, participate, hopefully. But yet you're criticizing, you know the same thing that you're supposed to be here, do what you're supposed to do debate the goddamn news and make us aware. Okay, because now one time, he said, I've been listening for a while, and it's my first time and you know, you guys are crying for what's going over in Ukraine. But you're not talking about what's going on in Pakistan. Hey, and then the same people are doing the same thing over there. And Syria, the Russians, you never came up and said that shit. You said here and consumed? That was it. Debate? Do you do your point? Are you
Unknown Speaker:I wanted to say something to Jonathan. People will always try to give you advice on some stuff that they're never doing. Right? If you look at the topic of the room, it says China lockdown 51 million. Do you have anything to add to that topic? Because that's the conversation that's going on right now. And if you want to do a Palestine room, why don't you start a club and open up a Palestine room then? That's it? Like, oh, yeah,
Unknown Speaker:oh, that's never talked about the Italians. Or don't Don't,
Unknown Speaker:don't take the name. Don't take the
Unknown Speaker:name, create the news. I think I'm gonna make that a new club guy.
Jerry Malcolm:Or is listen, everybody, or if anybody got any recommendations, you know, feel free to back channel, myself or Jonathan, and you know what we'll take take some things in close iteration. Now,
Jonathan Bing:Anthony, do your thing about the title. We were just talking about Obama taking bribes. Okay. And everyone was telling yet? For sure. 100% He took bribes. And that wasn't in the title up there. But yet, you know, we spent a half an hour 45 minutes on it. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:You just brought the subject back up, Jonathan.
Jerry Malcolm:Jonathan, are you saying he took bribes? No, no.
Unknown Speaker:Not that he took bribes?
Jonathan Bing:Oh, Lord. Well, well, you guys said he's not going to show that he if he's not showing people that you get paid for it, then what the hell is what's the difference? So let's move on.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay. Okay. So is there anybody I'm going to in about 10, more in about 10 more minutes. Once I get about 10 more minutes. I'm going to turn the chat back on for another for about another 10 minutes, because it's going to start glitching? Again. If you could put the put the podcast back up top please pumping? Not not not the club? Is there anybody that would like to jump into this conversation? Once again. I'm really request everybody. I'm gonna say it's nice. One more time. Please keep your mic muted. Until Until you're speaking because if you don't, I'm gonna have to put you down because echoing? Is there anybody want to jump in? So state your name? And I'll let you go ahead and jump into my eldest,
Unknown Speaker:Sharon.
Jerry Malcolm:Ahmed. Go ahead. Go ahead, elder.
Unknown Speaker:You know, in January, I believe China had sent several messages to their people, that they were to stock up on food as much as possible, which was very rare, because at the time, it was indicated that they were going to actual restaurants where they were locking up people for wasting food. So now they told their people and I don't know if anybody was watching World News Tonight. It was a big subject. Why is China telling their people to stock up on food? Well, now we see the results of that they had already planned to do this lockdown. And I don't know, they did it. Right. When the Soviet Union was invading Ukraine, right about the same time, I believe. So that's something that's very interesting. I'm not speaking conspiracy, I'm speaking truth. So what does that mean for America? I believe they all know what is going on right now. And quite frankly, as far as the vaccine is concerned, you know, I told my kids two years ago, I said, there's going to be another shot of a vaccine, another shot and another shot and another shot. They're going to milk this for all that it's worth, because I distinctly remember when one of the Clinton's wife got on TV, and this is one thing she said, Never waste a crisis. What does that mean? That mean? The American people will do what you need them to do in the midst of a crisis more than they would if we try to push them to do it. So what are they going to do? They're going to milk these vaccines I'm not for or against vaccines, so please don't you know don't kill the messenger. So what did they want to do? They want to milk this vaccine thing until they push all Americans to do what it is that they really want us to do. And what does that mean? That means anybody that controls the money controls the world, I'm just saying everybody's talking about the Pfizer Maderna the Rockefellers own P Pfizer pharmaceutical. They own that they own the money. They're on every bank board in the entire world. Check it out, you can research it. They own all the insurance companies, right? Oh, everything. Okay. Okay. You know, I'm just saying, I want to tell you a lot. I don't want create an argument. But I've done study on this for three, four years.
Jerry Malcolm:Now why
Jonathan Bing:would you study it?
Unknown Speaker:When I study? by trade? I do
Jonathan Bing:what you just said you did studies on this right with God because Because everyone's using the Rockefellers no one's using the Waltons name or the must name. Okay. And the Rockefellers don't have the wealth that the Waltons had so why are why are we still using why are we still using the Rockefellers why why are we moved on to like the Waltons or the musk? Or you know you guys use gates you know for all kinds of stuff but why why also why we still use a Rockefeller because the list is what and now Illuminati. I mean, why rock?
Unknown Speaker:On the back, yes.
Unknown Speaker:Can I just say there's people people bigger than the Illuminati. They're not the look there. They're smaller than some other groups. I just mentioned them but there's so many more other names. You are right. We can talk about Elon Musk, we can talk about what's going to happen in years to come when they start putting chips in George Soros.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Nah, no, you know, so interesting out there, bro. You got bro, you gotta meet each man for a second. You know, it's interesting, though. Just to keep it real. You know, um, we do fit, find things that fit our narrative, whatever that is. We do that naturally as people you know, but it's biases that we have. Because um, you know, when people start talking about all these families that own this stuff. We don't even know one or 2% for fact that that's even true. If you want to go that deep how deep do all this go? But I thank you for what you said don't miss Well, yeah, we don't want to go too much deeper into the, into the lesson about you know, all that stuff. We
Unknown Speaker:say this, because I agree with you on a lot of things. But not everything is confirmation bias. Sometimes you're just getting confirmation because there's people out there that actually look up and do the research and not just get their their information from Fake News, Fox and fake news, CNN.
Jerry Malcolm:Man, why are you finished so fast? I was like, Okay, let me go in the back channel. I just wanted to say that I know, but you stopped also surely going to back channel checks a mess. You're gonna stop me? No, it's okay. No, I appreciate you, bro. Now, I agree with you.
Unknown Speaker:But some valid points. Oh, I
Jerry Malcolm:agree. I agree. I agree. 100%. Is there anybody else who want to jump in the conversation, if so, state your name, I'm going to cut off hand raising, and I'm going to cut it back on. And when I cut it back on, I'm going to I'm going to bring up everybody who raises their hand. So if you raise your hand, please don't do it just for practice. Please really come to the stage when I pull you up. And I'm gonna let you join the conversation. Is there anybody else who wants to jump in and so state your name, and you can go ahead and jump in, it's a I'm going to go to ace and I'm going to go to Anthony go ahead ace
Unknown Speaker:point on COVID. And, you know, pharmaceutical companies milking this, I just find it really ironic that, despite knowing this, and despite people not trusting their government, etc, people are all of a sudden trusting, okay, let's just go out there. Let's just not wear a mask on let's just not social distance us have 600,000 people in Florida for spring break. It's almost like people want to go with what fits their life and what makes them comfortable not realizing that if the if the numbers are going down, which they have because of good weather, etc, they can go back up just as quickly. So I find it kind of ironic that people sit there and just say, oh my god, it's over. And it's nowhere near over. There's three different variants that are new, they're circulating, and yes, these drug companies are going to keep on making money. But the other problem is, most people are not okay with the fact that this is going to be our I guess, lifestyle for the coming years is better that we you know, protect ourselves that app ignorant and say, Oh, it's gone. It disappeared. It's fake. It's not real. I find it I mean, I'm not boxed. So I'll I'll give you that much of a backer. I'm not a get boosted and all that. I just think we should be looking out for our own health and not just always relying on mainstream. You
Jerry Malcolm:know, I think I'm gonna do you don't think I'm gonna do miss and I think you should join me. You know, a decision I just made just now. But I think I'm gonna you're gonna join me. I think we'll get back this week. Why not? I think I'm gonna just come on over to the other side. I think it's safer on the other side. Are you with me, Miss Howe? No. I think we're gonna get David to join in with us. I think we I think we're gonna get ice to join in with this.
Unknown Speaker:Party with Jerry. You can actually not be okay with getting the vaccine but then actually lead a healthy lifestyle and you common sense like we don't have it I think I'm so sick of this all or nothing narrative you're either on one side of it or it's conspiracy theory oh my god they're out to get us population control and the other side is oh my god I need to follow the rules every single fucking rule or what will I do? There's no middle ground like what happened to common sense and just critical thinking obviously it exists. It affects people differently. I'm not a Vax, but I am smart enough to know to wash my hands and not be in some crowded room with a gazillion people. If I feel someone's probably got something in here, like I mean, be healthy, like it's not difficult but yet we're debating stupid, nuanced arguments about Oh, it's COVID Real obviously, we know it is. Oh, as Pfizer and Roadrunner trying to make money obviously there are they're a business that's a business is do they make money, and they don't really give a shit about your health. We know this already. So why can't we be in the middle ground and be like, Hey, this is gonna exist for a while. Why don't we just use common sense and stop relying on our bloody governments that tell us what to do? Like it's not difficult, but then yet we have people on to pour ends always fighting and arguing with one another and wasting their breath when we can literally be, you know, use your common sense. And that's right.
Jerry Malcolm:Thank you for that. You definitely set them uh, yeah, you said a mouthful and appreciate you. Now there was somebody else I think I think it was Anthony Anthony I believe in your effing self. Do you believe in your effing self Anthony?
Unknown Speaker:Yes, I do. Well, let's
Jerry Malcolm:hear let's hear what you got to say bro. Oh, I
Unknown Speaker:just I just got some real quick just to put on people mind everybody talking and debating news and what's going on? When everybody goes start thinking about what's the solution that's all just
Jonathan Bing:before you get a solution you got to realize and agree that is a problem.
Jerry Malcolm:Oh man I'm gonna tell you the solution man
Unknown Speaker:the problem and not talking about the solution.
Jerry Malcolm:Right well that's what we try to debate brother because you know,
Jonathan Bing:news. Okay, let's do it. Solution, the news. Okay. So one second. There's a war going on. Over in Ukraine right now. Um, sir. So what's your solution?
Unknown Speaker:Go find Putin in
Jonathan Bing:a second. So he offered a solution. So it resolved. There it is. We need to go find Putin and blow his ass out.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay. Anthony once again, Anthony. Anthony. So that's your solution for for the war, would it so Anthony got another question. What is your solution for COVID?
Unknown Speaker:Let me let me tell you my solution to all this shit. To be honest, and I mean, y'all gonna laugh? Oh, don't worry. We will. For you a four letter word everybody know? Love. Stop the bullshit.
Jerry Malcolm:Man. Why are we laugh at that while we laugh at that you write
Unknown Speaker:it absolutely bro. Big facts Big Brother.
Unknown Speaker:Let's go. Oh, no, man. No,
Jerry Malcolm:man, right man. You Auntie you do know that's a universal law. Right? Universal Law of love. Anthony brother. I don't even know you. But just since you said I love you, brother. How about that, Anthony.
Unknown Speaker:I love you, Jonathan. Jonathan.
Jerry Malcolm:David, I love you, bro.
Unknown Speaker:Carrier. All right.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, Jerry. Brother question real quick.
Jerry Malcolm:We use most of you wasted
Unknown Speaker:your question by asking a question.
Jerry Malcolm:We spread love and he means spread.
Unknown Speaker:Leave, man let it breathe. Let the love breathe. Maybe.
Jerry Malcolm:It's okay. Go ahead, bro. Grant. Grant asked me a question. TC thanks a lot.
Unknown Speaker:So my question is, would you agree that to love something means that you have to hate something else. Huh?
Jonathan Bing:Yeah, he's still on dope.
Unknown Speaker:Okay. Now you don't know a to
Jerry Malcolm:love something. You have to hate something. Wait, wait. He's getting Wait, wait, wait. TC. Where are you going with that? Let's see where you go at DC where are you going? That's
Unknown Speaker:what I was just asking him the question because he said Love is the answer. But that's the like the transcendental conflict that we have. Right? Because the Russian people love Russia. They're going to find enemies like United States to hate. And so in order to love your country, you have to hate the enemy. Right? So that really doesn't solve the problem. Love being the all inclusive answer. Because you have to hate something to love something that's like I love my wife. So somebody comes in and tries to kill her. I have to Hear him enough to take his life right so there's not really a solution to the problem at all. It really is more nuanced than just saying love is
Unknown Speaker:even talking about okay deep on that one man I got to get my scuba gear for that
Jonathan Bing:okay
Unknown Speaker:i guys let me just be honest with you he just hits something because in your yard to debate the
Unknown Speaker:the the manifested manifestation room in a second but the bar
Unknown Speaker:but the Bible says oh mean the loved one or hate the other so but that's a whole nother subject for a different time. But and I think several people was just saying you know where he I think he made alluded to news. Guys Guys, I'm sad to get blue in the face. I've been doing radio, TV, news all my life. That's all I know. And to my brother earlier, I look at the world news all the time. Because what if it happens in the United States, everything that happens everywhere, affects our area affects wherever you are. So at the end of the day, everything is not a story. Some things are advertising, some things are what's yet to come. And I want to know what kind of Mike, Jonathan Jerry has, or he'll want to get no?
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you later, brother. But is there anybody else that want to jump in? And but before you go, once again, I'm going to remind everybody that debate, the news is a podcast now debate, the news is a podcast, you can download your favorite episodes, you can get repeat replays. But you also can do, I'm gonna ask you all to do me do me a solid, I have almost 650 people in here. If everybody in here just copies that link up top, and just texts it to about one or two of their friends. That will really help debate the news, the podcast grow. And when I say that, I want y'all to really, please mute your mic, come on, y'all mute your mic, please mute your mic, put them down where it is. Okay, so if you guys could literally just copy that link and paste it in your text message, and just text it to about 234 or five of your friends. And lemme debate the news is a podcast, and we got people from all over the world come with their opinion, and some because at the end of the day, in the beginning days, all it is is a bunch of opinions, and we debate them. So I want to thank everybody once again for coming out. And also I appreciate all these moderators, but I'm looking for some of these people at the bottom of the stage to come up and join the conversation. And I'm going to also ask you one more thing. If you can click on Jonathan beings profile and click on my profile Jerry Malcolm and give us a follow We deeply appreciate it put the bell on and y'all know when we go live on our nightly rooms we're gonna be doing some pop ups from time in our week in addition, we're gonna be doing from time to time so there anybody wants to jump in so
Unknown Speaker:facts facts you know how to create facts all the time you said that opinions but I hear facts in here all the time.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, so for the facts so so for the fact that you said facts. I'm gonna go with facts since you said facts because I see rock and I know not to see rocks. I gotta stay and see rock good song because he rocks back. Okay. Oh, see rock got to he got too much. puni intubate the news, so I gotta chill. Okay, now, is there anybody else to want to debate the news? If so, state your name. Once again, we're talking about China's lockdown. 51 million people are on lockdown. The US warns China you bet not help Putin? Because if you do, we're gonna have a problem. We're doing all this talking this and that. While this economy is steadily going down. I'm about to open chat right now. And I want to hear y'all talk about it. Anybody want to jump in? State your name and get an MC.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, I want to talk to you know, John Edwards. Nana Holla Holla Holla. Let me let me go to the topic today. Let me go go to the topic. Your callers. Go ahead. No, you stated China is or Russia has asked China for help, right?
Jerry Malcolm:No, I didn't say that. No, I mean,
Unknown Speaker:well, that's the news. The reality is they knew what was going on. They were in it for you know from the beginning. The problem is, they're just coming out now. And what has actually happened? They have realized the response NATO has given on the crisis in Ukraine and they have come out all you know all in open now they're like, fuck, we're gonna do whatever the hell we want. Because it has been 15 days. And what has been the real response both of these countries China and Russia have seen nothing That's what that is what the news is.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay. All right. Appreciate you, brother.
Jonathan Bing:I I agree. I agree NATO, NATO not doing anything, as the NATO is now known for selling woof tickets. And I know you guys probably don't know what wolf tickets are. But they're not doing it at all Buster, and you know, right now shows your age. So, so right now, China has not I mean, your NATO has not done anything. And there has really been no repercussion. You know, China, China could stand all the sanctions in the world, you know, so they, they're fine, you know, for now, I mean, so once again, Russia and China look like they're trying to create another super, I don't know, I don't know that. They're trying to do a new Warsaw Pact or whatever. I don't know what's going on there. But Putin there. Yeah, boo. Exactly. Putin met with cheese. And they said that, she said that he's gonna support Russia, and that dad that no matter what that happened, right, right at the beginning of the Olympics, and then soon as the Olympics in Russia went in. Okay, so that means I knew what was going on. So you're absolutely right. It's just while we sitting here arguing about making up stuff and arguing about it, that's not real. There's real stuff that's happening out there, you know, 51 million Chinese, that's, that is our supply chain, someone brought it up, unless someone brought it up, I was waiting for someone to bring that up, our supply chain is gonna be affected, your face is gonna go up, I can't it's gonna have a direct effect on our economy. Because they shut down one of those districts, I forget what they call him. I know, I want to call him I forget, excuse me at this moment. China has these districts and they had to shut down the entire district industrial district. So that's going to affect that supply chain. Alright. And then, you know, and then the United States trying to if they do decide to help Russia, your every day I that's going on, the first thing about the 51 million affects I economy. The second thing, okay, but How do humans sanction China, China does help affects our economy. You know, right now, people you guys said you don't want to get involved and that we, you know, we can't get involved when we're knee deep in this. We're knee deep in it already. And, you know, we just got to figure out how we're going to enter. And I you,
Unknown Speaker:you want to use one of those, Jonathan a question. Jonathan, you said NATO hasn't done anything in comparison to what Russian and China is doing? What is your response? Or what would you suggest NATO do to kind of buffer what Russia and China is doing? More? What?
Jonathan Bing:What what, let me just say this right here, I like you. I got like, like, a lot of, I don't masquerade as medical doctors or military strategist. Okay. You know, and maybe I get a little emotional with what I feel. But I do know, this, you know, you know, and I've seen it happen. Unfortunately, I didn't grow up in the best neighborhood. But I've seen it happen when something goes unabated, you know, some someone gets their way, you know, a bully gets their way, you know, they take one block, and then they do you still Yoda, Yoda messed them up over there. Next thing, you know, they come in for your block. And I hate to use that analogy. But you know, they do not gonna just stop, you know, so we're gonna have to deal with Russia. One day, whether it's right, you know, this week, are later on this year or next year, we're going to have to deal with Russia. Because Russia, as I said, hell bent on taking back their rightful place, as a as a hyper power right there amongst us, beside us are even above us. So you know, that's where they are. I mean, Putin, Putin is older. He's lived a great life. Now it's time to leave his legacy. And
Unknown Speaker:so would you say that real quick, John, would be the same way that Biden should respond to Vladimir Putin, when Trump said that basically, that Kim Jong Hoon in North Korea would experience reign of fires such as the world has never seen. I mean, that was no veiled threat. He was talking about nuclear warfare. Are you suggesting that Joe Biden to take a stronger stance and directly confronting Putin and his threats of aggression of nuclear warfare?
Jonathan Bing:I think Words are cheap. Okay, so you know, and you know, posturing you know, when you start putting those words out there, it's never good. I think diplomacy is great. But you know, once again we got it we got it, we got it. We can't, you know, we got to do something. You know, I know no one wants boots on the ground. That's fine. I get it, I understand. But there there has to at this point in time, Taiwan's next possibly okay, but In this, you know, Putin actually right now is getting more and more desperate, as it goes on that bombing of that base. Did you guys know up until two, three weeks ago by three, three weeks ago, we were training Ukrainian soldiers, US soldiers were there training Ukrainian soldiers. Alright, so, uh, so basically, you know, is letting them be known. Putin is sending the message to us, you know, and so that's, that's something that we have to figure out. And once again, I'm not a strategist, I don't get paid for this. I didn't, you know, raise my hand and swearing in and going into military and do all that, you know, I said, That's not what I do. You know, so I can't sit here and tell you how to see how they should do it. But you know, I just feel like I'm not happy now. Maybe I'm ignorantly unhappy, but I'm just unhappy nonetheless.
Unknown Speaker:You provided insight THANKS.
Unknown Speaker:i You know, I got to add to this real quick because I have a crazy ass life. I grew up in Aspen, Colorado, 200 feet. My math class is 200 feet from Hunter Thompson. So in Chicago kids grew up with gunshots. I grew up with like nine different guns going off and no to no understanding of when anyways, crazy life. But if if Yeah, Woody Creek, right. And if you go Google right now, Aspen, Russian oligarch, you're gonna see that some dudes that I grew up with as kids they're fair parents just sold a plot of aspen property Aspen mountain to a Russian oligarch, which they paid $10 million for. And now they just got $76 million for I want that sounds very familiar like a piece of property in Florida. I heard about and guess who is tied? Guess who is a brother of the property. He's actually on a member on the seat of the people that sold the Neil Gorsuch. No fucking joke. Supreme Court justice. Oh, he has it ingrained into our system that is going on right now. Google, you'll see. It's it's it's all over. I mean, Neil Gorsuch is tied to this.
Jonathan Bing:Wow. You know, once again, I cannot confirm that. I wish I was I don't know if tears here if anyone's here. Tara, is that correct? You think that's correct, Tara. So I don't know who
Unknown Speaker:it is, say Aspen, Russian oligarch, and it'll pop up and it'll just tell you right away. It's Gorsuch is the guy selling the property. And I grew up with his kid, and I'm telling you it this stuff is in our system already. I mean, Trump sold that property. What do you think we all know about that piece of property for $10 million. He picked up and then three months later sold it for? Was it 65 million or something like that? I mean, was not that long ago. People forget.
Unknown Speaker:inference, though. Like Trump is a real estate tycoon. This is what he does. What's the inference that he so he took a property for 10 million and sold it for 65. It tells me he's a good businessman.
Jonathan Bing:Saying guys are just arguing about a fantasy. Okay, about a fantasy. Tweet payment is now all about. Oh, it's a good businessman. You guys are just Yeah, no, that's fine. I know. I know. But I mean, this is my boy Trump. It makes it it makes a difference. He's on my side. So I got it. I you know, even though it's documented, you know, you know, what's the difference? You know, by land, you know, by you know, by something? First of all, Trump's not that goddamn intelligent. He's like that damn right. I'm sorry. Okay to go buy a piece of land. And then all sudden, months later, sell it. Okay, Trump's not that bright. I'm sorry. I know, I offend a lot of you guys. But that's just what I feel. You guys, you know, nobody's talking about your head. You guys could speak about it. I like I said, You guys could debate it.
Unknown Speaker:So I don't know why nobody's talking about this. Right. So in 2014, right. Russia promised not to attack Ukraine if they give up their nuclear weapons, correct. Right. So why don't the US and NATO say okay, Ukraine is not going to be part of NATO, right? We're not going to do anything and let everything go, no die down and go back to normal. And then what they're going to do is have you create and build their nuclear weapons in secret. So that now that will be a deterrent, right because Because Because Russia lied. Ukraine can also lie and say okay, we are good. build their nuclear weapons. By the time they realize they Russia realizes they have a nuclear weapon as well. They become part of NATO and everything goes back to normal because Good determine right. So that's the second thing
Jonathan Bing:that first of all, you talk about the Budapest agreement. Right. That's what you're talking about the Budapest agreement. I, from what I understand, from what I learned from this room, there was no enforcement mechanism there. Unfortunately. And, and that's what that's what I when I, and I feel the same way that you feel, because of the fact that if we did tell, we did tell them to give up their nuclear weapons, and we, and that they, you know, they wouldn't be attacked. And they gave us the nuclear weapons, and now they're being attacked at the United States, Great Britain, Russia. And who else is part of that agreement? Ukraine, United States, Russia, Great Britain and one other?
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, that's one of the things that either was sponsored or something, but I guess, yeah, the thing is, they give it up, right, they build it in secret, and then have one or two nuclear weapons like Iran is doing right now. And then you can becomes you can also push back. Right. So why try to say or, you know, be in this study school called My NC Oh, well, no, you cannot tell them what to do that kind of stuff. I think that is that is counterintuitive. And that the one thing that the difference right now, right, is that the US and NATO cannot do anything, because the nuclear weapons is a factor, right? Because when you say, well, they don't do anything, the only thing they can do is just a sanctions. There's nothing else they can do. Because anything else avoid that it's isn't nuclear, a nuclear war, and nobody wants that.
Jonathan Bing:I don't think there's once again, you know, and I want I want, I want honesty from people on this stage, guys. So I want to pose it out there, and you guys can call me the biggest jerk off off out there or whatever. And that's fine. You guys can and I won't, but I want honesty. I personally believe that someone such as Putin, that he did this to do what guys? Why is he trying to take Ukraine because he wants power? And I've said this before, someone that wants power, this man and then not only does he want power, this man does not have anyone around him. If you guys look at that table, look how far that people are away from me. And 100 foot table. And then the other day when he did that speech, and he looked like he had people there. He's talking. As he moved his hand, his hand was going through the microphone, which you could tell obviously was was not real. Okay, so those people weren't around him. All right. So Putin, definitely, he's afraid to die. He doesn't want to be assassinated. Okay. And he's holed up in a bunker. So my question is, some man like that, that shows, okay. He's, you know, that he wants to protect his life at all cost, would risk a nuclear war, where he, you know, where he most likely would survive, but for how long? Okay. And Russia would not be what Russia is. Why would he risk a nuclear war? This guy's high in the protective like his life. He doesn't want anyone around him to pick. You guys really think that guy wants to start a nuclear war?
Unknown Speaker:Hey, Jonathan, hey, this is Clarissa. He definitely does not. And I sent the article to you on your back channel.
Unknown Speaker:Oh, this my last, my last comment. So that means like,
Jonathan Bing:so once again, so. So yeah, I'm gonna let you talk. Well, I want the floor open. Because if you guys if you guys think I'm crazy, then fine. Call me crazy. That's what I'm here for. I need to learn from you guys. Okay, but those are that's my position. I really think some man that goes to this great lengths to protect his life will not do a nuclear war. Because
Unknown Speaker:you're saying it as Vladimir Putin is in his right mind, who's to say that he's taking everything like the way it's supposed to be like his he's internalized this information and, and spit it out? Properly? What if he's literally like what a lot of people have said in the news, he's not in his right mind, he is dealing with some sort of mental incapacity. That is not too far fetched to say that the God would push the button and create nuclear war, because he's, he's basically COVID has restricted him and isolated him. And now he's a you know, he's a prisoner in his own mind, who's to say he's not in his right mind?
Jonathan Bing:Okay. Who's to say, who's to say that his generals winners wouldn't take his ass out before they let him do that? Because they know what the results of that is. Okay. Good, Terry. You said some. It was that that's talking?
Unknown Speaker:No, sorry. It was just saying that. There have been reports that he is extremely ill. And with him being in a 70s push comes to shove, if he feels like he's losing. This mount is not going to go down and lose. We saw what Hitler did. Hitler has cyanide post on on him and he took it with Eva Brown, when he was felt that he was captured. And he felt like he was huge. He was he wants to war. He knew he did. So he and he was a very egocentric man. He was you know, Extremely thought extremely high of them sort of just like how point does this like how most of these fascist who, right? So there is a chance where he's almost going to be like, you know what if I can't be this, and I'm in my 70s, and I am sick, and I am dying, but you know what, this world isn't good enough for anybody. So we don't know his state of mind. But it's also going to be very difficult for the generals to actually do anything, because I did read an article from a National Post that actually talked very in detail about how he has so many people that are actually in the way between things like food, he has six people test his food before he eats it. So he is very concerned about living. I agree with you, Jonathan. However, if he does get into a position where he feels like I'm about to lose, we don't know what he would do, because he is that egocentric. So I do you believe there is a chance he might do something absolutely appalling. Because likely, it is likely it's not impossible. So we've seen Heller do it. And I'm pretty sure that this man would probably do it too.
Unknown Speaker:I'm still waiting to hear permission to
Jonathan Bing:get land.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, so So I mean, you will think that the generals, right, that you as your knowledge generals will probably have the same period that you put you pose, right. And they probably use game theory and all that kind of stuff to make calculations right. So I'm sure they have run this scenario and see that this is not an alternative that they can take. And that's why they probably in this kind of kind of current situation. And along that line.
Unknown Speaker:Hey, Jonathan. Yeah, I know y'all guys are, like typical Americans more concerned about what's happening. 50,000 miles away, and y'all are probably locked in your basement on this clubhouse. And y'all are out of touch with reality and what's going on outside right, outside right now. You see the gas prices through the roof. Inflation. You see the food going up. And I went to the store the other day, I couldn't even find a good cereal, man, all the cereal ate up. So it's a lot more going on.
Jonathan Bing:Here, but it wasn't.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. going on here. Yeah. Yep.
Unknown Speaker:But you're not from bond. You're not running your life.
Jonathan Bing:So red fella, where are you from? Because you said we're like typical Americans. I'm in
Unknown Speaker:Texas.
Jonathan Bing:Alright, we're gonna move in a pivot who wants to jump in? I got it, man.
Unknown Speaker:You know, at the end of the day, man. I mean, you're spot on. But what he said is, I can, I can definitely relate to that. And I'm speaking on the military perspective of being a 21 year Marine veteran with boots on the ground. You know, I'm happy that America and NATO is, you know, dragging our feet to actually step into a war I don't I don't know, if anybody's ever faced worn ones in this room who have to take another person's life that sits on you. You know, and when we step into a foreign land, the impact that we make, it may it may look fun, but it's it's very intense. When the Marines hit the ground. It's a it's life changing, literally. And, you know, once we do that, I think that, you know, it puts Putin in a situation where we're not only destroying, you know, whatever he went to go set out to do, we're also destroying his pride. And we use when you deal with a man's pride at that caliber, there's nothing off the off the table, I truly believe that he will be the one to say, hey, you know what, there's nothing else to lose. I'm in my older age. And, you know, and maybe he will, you know, try to exercise that nuclear option. And I don't want that to be something that happens. You know, the problem with America is that, when we do step into something, we don't know how to step out, you know, as easy as we usually step in, we step in fierce and we leave, leave an imprint. And, you know, I'll leave it there. But I don't want us to find ourselves in a situation where we we destroy not only the plan, but we also destroy the pride of a madman. Absolutely.
Unknown Speaker:Points and not oscillate if I can add to that, Jonathan. You figure like how does how does Russia benefit? Or how does Putin get himself out of his corner? Nobody would dispute that Russia and Putin right now is in a corner, they eat out the fight out at the bow. I think the solution to this is, is that the US gets involved. And this is to the question I asked you earlier, Jonathan, like what more can NATO do? NATO needs to be the like the disarmament table, they need to literally be the table where both sides can come together and negotiate a release so that Putin feels like he gets a win out of this. If we can deliver something to Putin to make him feel like he gets a win out of this. All he says settles down because the commentary and Mason's in the news about China now begin at the beginning to support Russia with economic and military support. What we're looking at is posturing for world war three folks, like this is how it happened back in back in the 1939,
Jonathan Bing:tctc. With all with all due respect, it says Putin requested assistance. It didn't say that they helped him. So but
Unknown Speaker:the US has intelligence, I can send you the link Jonatha US has intelligence that that China has actually acquiesce to their request. They haven't actually delivered the goods but
Jonathan Bing:they sent me the link back show me the link, I'm open to that.
Unknown Speaker:They're building a house of cards, it most definitely can lead us into something. And I think we when we say world war three, I mean, we I've never lived through it. I've seen pictures. And I just don't think it's I know this is weird to say, but I don't think it's as bad as we think. Especially if it happens over there. I don't think it's going to get to a point where he wants to destroy America. He wants to destroy within what He has power grab. He's not trying to take over America. But yeah, everything's on the table. And if it is moving towards that way, America is going to be an I'm staring at six at gas, whatever. What does it mean America, we were so rich, even though like the other side is so poor, we'll be able to handle that no matter what. As long as we don't got bombs going here. We're all be okay.
Unknown Speaker:You're in a dark if you think that's not going to happen. We we are we will be eventually a part of this. And I'm going to tell you why. And I like to send this link to the moderators. It says that Ukraine had warhead missiles larger than China. Okay. It says
Jonathan Bing:so larger than China today at warhead missiles larger than China.
Unknown Speaker:Yes, nuclear warheads that China currently possesses could have destroyed every US city with a population of more than 50,003 times over Ukraine had this during the Buddha, the one you mentioned the Budapest the Budapest agreement. So what were they trying to do? They really Putin wants to disarm Ukraine. Okay. And he wants all of those nuclear weapons why? Because
Jonathan Bing:when when train doesn't have nuclear weapons man
Unknown Speaker:listen be in who doesn't have nuclear weapons Ukraine. I'm looking at a I'm looking at the Budapest Memorandum right now. Yeah,
Jonathan Bing:yep.
Unknown Speaker:In terms of nuclear weapons the
Jonathan Bing:Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons ma'am. You need to update your information don't worry about it. I know you research this go back and finish research and then come back let us know I elder Did you research this obviously that's what you told us earlier. I recently thankfully you research that you
Unknown Speaker:got everyone knows everything at the same time, but it's not about being in the dark. I understand your concerns and I'm in America. I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight I'm down to fight all of us in this room are down to fight so we'll be okay.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, but I just need to ask a question. Yeah. Are the Russians in control of Ukraine's nuclear sites?
Unknown Speaker:Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay.
Unknown Speaker:There's no weapons in that nuclear site nowhere.
Jonathan Bing:No, no, no, that was that was the Budapest Memorandum
Unknown Speaker:please send me where I can send you some information. So ma'am, ma'am,
Jonathan Bing:you remember your teacher your your you research all the time, it takes you less than 30 seconds to find that information man. Also have you know the information about what I just shared with you? No less than 30 seconds. I want to
Unknown Speaker:send you that article in your back channel.
Jonathan Bing:So now that you crank Listen to me, I wish you created absolutes because we wouldn't be going through what we're going through right now. Okay. So so they hadn't he wouldn't be going through it right now. It would be a deterrent. I feel that the United States Great Britain, I think France or Germany is one of them. They owe Ukraine some support. Because we actually had them go into a memorandum and give up those nuclear weapons and and we did so and with them 10 for having full knowledge that law supposedly protected from ever being attacked and they were attacked and we're sitting back you know, not doing anything about it. So that's that's something that we have to deal with. So guys real quick guys, we're gonna do a quick reset guys this is debate the news make sure you guys follow the rule follow Jerry Malcolm guys. Also make sure you guys are following the podcast up top that link is there guys. Spotify, iTunes, Apple podcast, Stitcher, radio, Amazon, Google. Guys wherever you get your stuff stream your podcast from whatever streaming player you use. We're definitely dear guys. It is. It's fun watching the numbers go up. Also guys. We are today talking about the 51 million people that's on lockdown. Oh, how's that going to affect us guys? How is that going to affect us. All we do for another lockdown guys Great Britain, I mean England, I should say, England hat is having a uptick. Okay, you guys over there in the UK, you guys can chime in. Okay. If you bloody well feel like it, they are having an uptick in chaos COVID cases, but they're removing the restrictions at the same time that they're having this uptick. Is that smart. Alright, here is the politics. What is it, guys? Also, the United States has already told Russia, China, hey, don't you dare send Russia any economical help, or weaponry, you know, or they will be a price to pay. So that's where we are with all of this, guys. Anyone wants to jump in and jump on topic about any of those things? Okay, I'm just looking at this 51 million people locked down guys. And omachron did talk to our country like EU. And so I don't know, if they did enough to to contain it quickly enough. Because I know we had to deal with it. And so now they're dealing with it once again. So who's up? Hey, Jonathan, here
Unknown Speaker:we go. Jonathan Ryan, speak.
Unknown Speaker:I live in a big fan of this room. But let's let's think about the bigger picture. We've been under war we've been attacked by China, in many ways are we have the CRT, we have the bio weapons, we have economical stuff where we actually we need China just as much. But then they're going behind our backs and supporting Russia. They you know, they were in talks during the Olympics. Hey, Putin, and she, you know, you can do this attack after Olympics, but don't ruin our big show on the world stage. And we're giving them the Olympics. So we need to get this figured out. We need to, we didn't know who's on our side, who's our allies? And really, you know, face what we need to face because there's no, there's no going around it because they're, they're gonna fight us economically. They're gonna fight us with more bio weapons. So we have to be braver than we've ever been brave before. And, you know, beat the bully up, basically, and find out if India's Got our back, find out if the other major powers have our back. And What world do we want to live in? You want to live in a communistic world? What do you want to live in a free world cuz it's coming up coming in on us really fast with YouTube, and tech and all the censorship? They they've hit us with so many different changes in our life? And I'll end my playing on that. What do you guys think?
Unknown Speaker:I have a question.
Jonathan Bing:That's a good, that's a good question. What do we think? Oh, yeah, I do we want commies. I mean, because, guys, it seemed like our pool is making this an all or nothing. proposition for the world. So um, do you guys feel that way? That, that, that, as Ryan alluded to, that Putin is making this an all or nothing proposition for the world? Man, I agree. I agree. I
Unknown Speaker:think he's, he's definitely putting us in a situation where we're going to have to choose, and it almost seems like war is inevitable. You know, I just hope that we can hold on as long as we can. Try to get as many talks onto the table and see if we can, you know, change the mindset of this guy. And, you know, before we before we start this blood war, because once we do it, I don't I don't think it's gonna end anytime soon.
Unknown Speaker:That might be
Unknown Speaker:why guys, we need strong leaders and not emotional feelings when it comes to certain leaders
Unknown Speaker:is not the right
Jonathan Bing:gun for free and add to everything going to fashion guide.
Unknown Speaker:So just a couple of couple of thoughts. So first of all, there's been a lot of talk about Ukraine's new killer disarmament. That happened in 1991. So they had like, 17,000 or 1700, Soviet nuclear weapons, but they never had operational control of them. So they were still controlled at that time, by Russia, by Moscow. And so that was part of the equation that went in to remove them since they had not taken over operational control. A thought on the China thing, yeah, so they went from between 50 to 150 cases a day, over the last couple of months, reportedly, to 1400. So that's a big jump in numbers, but 1400 and locking down 51 million people. I'm in the state of Georgia, we're at like 1400, since we've dropped off the peak. And so that's a very small number to lock up and lock down a whole lot of people. So it just tells you a little bit about the mindset. Now kind of conclude with with Russia, I think Russia, I think Putin number one, I don't I don't, he's not. He's not unstable. I've been watching him talk for the last couple of days. And you know, he may be bizarre just thinking but he's not an unstable person. I think he was way off and he was spot on. He was way off. In that he thought that I think he actually can convince himself there's a thing called a Magruder principle look it up. But I think he actually convinced himself that when he went into Ukraine, that that he would be welcomed by open arms, from Russian speaking people that saw Him as their Savior, and would throw like flowers. Instead, they were throwing Molotov cocktails, and there's a whole lot of stuff that I can't get into why I'm lucky
Jonathan Bing:to get into it. Was that yeah, top secret clearance.
Unknown Speaker:So I would like to work for the government. But I will say just this on open source, so you can search for it yourself. The when the Russians first quote crossed over into Ukraine, they were talking on encrypted communications. Within less than about five or six days, they stopped because they ran out of contract, they ran out of key, Matt, they weren't supplied any more than that. And that's just one open source. There's other things open source that kind of show that he did not provide a supply chain behind it. He just brought all of the the towed artillery, the mobile artillery, the tanks were he brought like no logistics with him. And I think that he was way off in thinking that he would come in, it would be done within a couple of days. He was also spot on. And he's been spot on because they weren't
Jerry Malcolm:good. And I'm sorry, I was gonna say really quick, because I'm getting requests, I'm going to open a chat back up in about 30 seconds. So chat will be back open in about 30 seconds. So jump in, have a conversation, it's going to start to glitch. So I'm going to leave it open for about 10 minutes. So you guys go ahead and jump in. I'm at 168 shares in the wall, give me two by a little over 200. And I just did another scan, I did another scan, I counted myself personally about 60 people, I was just bored from this, let me let me just do a quick little scan in a room. About 60 of you have not joined the club. So for those 60 or those 100. haven't joined the club yet, I'm going to ask you to join, debate the news. And make sure you follow Jonathan Bing and myself, Jerry Malcolm, we have some amazing things is going to be going on. And you definitely want to be part of that. And don't forget, also debate the news is now a podcast. The link is up top. You can catch us on all your favorite platforms. My brother who was just speaking go ahead. I'll let you I'll let you land but I just have to jump in real quick because I'm getting so many messages please open the chat. Go ahead. Thanks,
Unknown Speaker:Jerry. Let me let me kind of amplify that from just the person that's been a listener for a while. followed the bait the news if you're here you're following follow it let others know that you follow it share it. I don't ask to come up to the to the the the table here unless I share I share it every single night you're here. It's free. Click on it. Share it with your friends tweet it. Get more people in here debate. I'll land with this that although I think he was way off. That was pretty good.
Jerry Malcolm:Rather he did pretty good. What's your name? I got to see who you are wishing Todd be? Okay, great. Tabi.
Unknown Speaker:So he was way off in his calculations. I got him in but he's been spot on in his strategy that no one is challenging him. I mean, he is hammering cities. He is pounding cities. And all he has to do is just threaten and saber rattle, nuke Nuke, Nuke, Nuke, Nuke, and so in everyone's stood back. And so I think he's spot on that he's going to have free rein now. He's running out a tremendous funds. It's costing him a lot of money to keep those troops there. And, again, I'll lay him on this. So I think he's spot on and what he's trying to do, he'll divide and conquer for a while until somebody steps up. And we continue to hold them at bay. That's all I have. Thanks.
Jerry Malcolm:Let me go to Clarissa go ahead Carissa.
Unknown Speaker:Can I was wondering, since they know about like that 40 mile caravan, and they've been watching it all this time. Why has no one set off a trap to blow that thing up? You know, in the next 10 miles to start taking it out? It's like you know it's coming.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, so I can jump in there again. Wow.
Jerry Malcolm:Once I I don't know if anybody has any real facts as to why that is. But go ahead. Go ahead, bro.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, so so there's there's some Russian saying and somebody's probably more apt at this than me, that basically says before the spring before the spring. And so no other nation wants to go in and be provocative. And so there's been things that we've been providing the Ukrainian army, the Ukrainian dissidents that are going in and taking those out. But they're stuck there. They can't get off of the those roads, because, as you know, there's a heavy agricultural area so they get bogged down in the mud. Ukrainian.
Unknown Speaker:I beg your pardon. I beg your pardon. I beg your pardon. I wasn't speaking of outsiders. I'm speaking of the people of Ukraine. Why haven't they and their military and nationalists set up ambushes along the way well before now, because they've known they've been there and they're planning on coming
Unknown Speaker:could be strategy, it could be strategy one, one piece of military strategies to lower your opponent into an area it completely ambush from there, who's to say that Zelinsky doesn't have a phenomenal military strategy, stop calling a whole bunch of arguments that's going to take out them once they get into a get into a corridor that they can drive out of. Right, I wouldn't put it past the Linsky to have a phenomenal strategy, especially because they're being advised by the by the US. But to Todd's point, making a mention that, you know, nobody stepped up to Putin. And until somebody steps up to Putin, he's going to continue to divide and conquer. I still have yet to hear anybody propose a solution of who's going to step up. And what that step up looks like. Like I said, that one guy said go in and blow up. Yeah, let's sit in SEAL Team Six. Right. But how do we how do you how do you secure that that doesn't result in an a nuclear holocaust? Like, what's this? What everybody could say, oh, you need to be you know, big and bad and stand up to prove what the hell does that look like?
Unknown Speaker:It probably looks like somebody am attacking someone within NATO directly doesn't even have to be hardpoint
Unknown Speaker:hard with somebody needed to stand up to board. My question to Todd is what does that look everybody keeps saying that and it's all like, rhetorical, but in actuality, what does that actually look like? Who, who's good with one who's to stand up to Putin and to the person that does have the power to stand up? What the hell does that even look like?
Jerry Malcolm:That's a very good point. What does that look like? They're probably they're probably waiting till
Unknown Speaker:it looks like Donald Trump. That's God bless.
Jerry Malcolm:Here we go. Here we go. Donald Trump. I don't know. Maybe Donald Trump, just Donald Trump disabled everything. So okay, so
Unknown Speaker:but TC
Jerry Malcolm:TC, though? That was a very good. That was a very good question. And the lady, I can't remember your name. It was speaking with TC. That was a very good point that you said once they attacked NATO or NATO affiliate. That was a good point what you said, then that's probably when all hell break loose. I think that's what you're basically saying, right? Yeah. That's what all hell, Clarissa what maybe I agree with the person earlier. I don't know who it was. I think it was Jonathan is said it, but someone else said it too. You know, sometimes you rattle somebody feathers are ruffled their feathers. And it's not necessarily to really to try to accomplish something that appears to be the mission does that you see what I'm saying? TC, it may be people think that he's really trying to, you know, go from point from A to Z, but maybe just getting it k l will ruffle enough feathers? This something won't happen yet. Does that kind of make sense? What I'm saying TC.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, makes perfect sense. I mean, he's a KGB agent. I mean, his job is to sow discord, disunity and to benefit from it. But again, my question is, stands like, what the time
Jerry Malcolm:were but Todd, let's pass it to somebody. Let's pass it to somebody else in the audience. Let's open it up a little bit. Let's let's let some other people jump in on that. So yeah, what does it look like? I don't
Unknown Speaker:see something, please. Go ahead, miss. Yes, I have a few questions that may ruffle a lot of feathers. Maybe you guys can help me on my acid, I'll add some? Well, the first point I would like to make is, I believe in the word that says no one knows the heart of the man or the man except his spirit. I don't think any of us can sit here and give an opinion or analysis of why why Putin is doing what he's doing. But I could see what I'm saying. It's just as Americans here who support who has the NRA, who gets to do whatever, they want to never have passive gun gun laws, and how bad things are with the gun violence in America. And we all go for the right to protect ourselves, you know, to bear arms and protect ourselves. And I think Putin, you know, his whole thing is to protect Russia and what he believe is, you know, the 100% the fit, you know, what he believes to be the right thing for his country and his people. So we
Grant Cardone:want to say that Trudeau
Unknown Speaker:So, we got to, and the second thing I'm saying is, every time I've seen a America, why does America feel like they have to be the one leading the pack to tell everybody Hey, give people ultimatums. And they started off giving Russia ultimatums, which made matters worse to me when I saw that the way Biden was talking, he was for one point, he said diplomacy, and then he's coming out every time you know, 3pm every day, you're like shoot shooting out the mouth trolling Putin. And then now we're over here already sending signals telling ultimatums to China. Every time I see America goes somewhere, not for America's sake, but for the other country sequence they go in and pretend to be the hero to help other country that country never comes out on the top, that country never comes out better off than they were before. Why don't we want no one is saying, why did we not advise? Trying to get Zelinsky to work out something? Really? That was really a I think that was really credible or that was really I guess, what's the word I'm looking for? Not for I think the diplomacy I think they saying that they were trying to talk with Russia about the I think it's a hoax. Why didn't they really try to tell this guy Listen, it's not gonna be good for you or your people you got to suffer a lot before you think you're gonna get what you gotta get a less less keen receive word that he was going to get backing from the United States and NATO and all this stuff about applying to NATO, which take could take years applying to the EU, which takes years to make these guys think that this thing was gonna happen overnight for him. And now all the people gonna have to suffer war and traumatic and the whole region going through this, why didn't anybody stop him before? And I said, listen, listen. Why can't we just say, I don't know. Maybe I'm stupid. Why can't we just give Putin this one time? What he was asking for he already had control of Crimea, and he's
Unknown Speaker:the right Yo
Unknown Speaker:what's up with Russia, give them what we want and avoid this cost of world war three. American leader,
Jerry Malcolm:one second brother, did you land your plane miss you? You You made some very good on some very good points, especially that part about him sticking his chest out with China. You got to be careful. But appreciate you miss. Were you trying to get into the queue Mr. Cardona? Because I'm Jerry,
Unknown Speaker:I just want to say Gary you had to get 600 people in here
Grant Cardone:for one person to make sense. That lady up and make sure she's part of the trio every every night.
Jerry Malcolm:What's her name? What's your name? Is someone I want to make sure I see her
Grant Cardone:name is wisdom. pure wisdom.
Jerry Malcolm:Is that really your name? Your wisdom? Sarah
Grant Cardone:should be no to change your damn name right now.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, okay. Fair, somebody's got a crush on you. And bait the news. Just that easy. Just because you speaking some game you got some I got a question you. Anybody else want to jump in
Unknown Speaker:to stick my chest?
Grant Cardone:How many lives how many? We don't? We don't stick our chest out here. That's a different room. How many lives did Jonathan tell tonight?
Jerry Malcolm:Oh, man, don't know don't get a long long. Wait, no, we I gotta be quiet. Ready? So. Me and Jonathan brothers, we don't get in trouble with each other.
Unknown Speaker:But can I say something about this? About the war? Go ahead. So I heard that what that lady said, but just remember that nobody had no other countries should have the right to go into and take over a sovereign country. And if you allow a bully to do that, why does he wish or the country is going to be next on the list. So you can't just say he goes in and you acquiesce and give him everything he wants, what's going to happen when he does attend this country? Then he goes and does it in say another country and and his friend Qi in China say Oh, he did that. I can do it too. So he goes and take over Japan, it is not as easy to sit down and say it is not as easy to sit down and say, you know, they should just compromise or they should just the only thing that I think the NATO people did wrong. They started too late. They started giving the help too late, because by the time they started putting on on the on the the the restrictions on Russia, it was like a week or almost two weeks right after a whole week. So they
Unknown Speaker:did. Why don't you say what would you say if the United States was working with Ukraine to develop bio weapons next to the Soviet next to Russia, to say about Putin right to protect his sovereign.
Unknown Speaker:That's a true.
Unknown Speaker:No, no, no, no, I'm saying what would you say if the United States was developing bio weapons in Ukraine? Like we were doing?
Unknown Speaker:That so since you asked me the question, Can I answer while we answer question,
Unknown Speaker:what is America doing? meddling in bio weapons with our enemies?
Unknown Speaker:Because I'm in
Jerry Malcolm:your car rocks, it slanted against the rock when Brian's
Unknown Speaker:talking, you have to cut them off. If you want to say something.
Unknown Speaker:I know that you know, brand never stops, he never let us explain. I don't know how many planes he has. He probably has a couple. But here this, they were not developing bioweapons they had a lab. They had a lab there. But that was not bioweapons. It's just the same. Like when they're testing viruses all over the world. They do that all the time. Right. So it wasn't by a weapon. So why are you bringing that in to say they were you know that the US is all over the world testing by a weapons I can't believe us is I can't believe that the United the people of the United States. Spread the bad news about your own country.
Unknown Speaker:I love my country. I love it enough. I love it enough to say we were developing weapons in Wuhan with China gain of function with COVID and 7 million dead people later, we find that we were involved doing similar stuff with bio weapons in Ukraine. So a bio weapon is on fire.
Jerry Malcolm:Bryan Bryan Bryan, once again, Brian? Hey, Grant, I got a question for you. Do you know some we don't know you can prepare for somebody just look at your PT or what's going on grant or you can prepare for something.
Grant Cardone:Stay prepared for something bro.
Jerry Malcolm:Like, what is going on? If
Grant Cardone:you guys would study what I've been doing for the last 10 years, moving from California, setting up in Miami. The assets that I've been buying and talking about inflation for not for 10 weeks, 10 years, telling people to get out of cash get to assets, that America would become a renter nation. Like, you know, you can you can listen to what people say but watch what they do. And if they're not consistent, then they're bullshitters. And if they are consistent, and they're right, more often than they're wrong, you should start like maybe making different moves. Look what Elon Musk said today. own assets. Okay, buy assets in times of turmoil.
Unknown Speaker:Can Brian buy a better phone? Buy? Yes.
Grant Cardone:Well, wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter.
Unknown Speaker:Not many mics can handle that.
Grant Cardone:But yeah, we I just want to tell you, yeah, we I really appreciate you.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, okay, Paulie. Hey, Greg grant knows where all the bodies are buried. I appreciate that grant. And yet, let that breathe what he said that that was, you know, you come to debate the news. And then you get some bars like that drop that's serious. Like we you know, somebody earlier said, so I said, What about the solution? You know, we may not have the solution to stop that war, we may not have the solution to stop COVID. But we definitely got solutions to make ourselves better with things that we got going on, while those things are going on. So I appreciate that. Grant Cardone the bill and make sure y'all give him a follow card on capital, our sponsor of debate the news, follow that brother. Once again, everybody's no longer Uncle G. He's brother G's part of the Brotherhood. Thank you, Brother G. Anybody else want to jump in with Brian? Yeah. Let me let me go back from Brian, I take that back. Brian, Brian knows when you don't ask Brian, if you want to speak he just jumps in is if somebody else wants to jump in?
Unknown Speaker:Yes, I was just gonna just chime in. First, I wanted to bear witness to the system, aka wisdom. I don't know what her name was Sarah and who was speaking, she spoke a lot of facts. And the other question came up to my mind when someone said you got to stop the bullies going into people's country. And they were referring to Putin. I'm just saying, isn't that what America has done all over the world? A lot of times what, you know, when can you be called the bully only when someone else does it accept United States? So I think that our hypocrisy is what has got us in the situation. And a lot of countries are kind of dissatisfied with that to kind of slow the move. But also I agree with Jonathan when he talked about the sanity of not necessary standing about the you know, the condition of mind in terms of using nukes. with Putin. I don't think any I don't think anyone You know, I don't think Putin is that foolish right now even in his illnesses old age i He's a strategist. And I've been wondering
Grant Cardone:not Oh, man, stop it. Why y'all call? Oh, man. Oh,
Unknown Speaker:come on, gee, you can roll your own
Grant Cardone:two dozen years at least.
Unknown Speaker:Now, you know, I'm pushing 50. So I don't want to consider myself that old. Especially even if
Grant Cardone:I tell you, by the way, if he's old, if you look at him compared to some of the American suppose leaders look at conditioning.
Unknown Speaker:Yo, he was on a horse with his shirt off
Grant Cardone:him against Biden, how long would it last? It wouldn't it be a fight back?
Unknown Speaker:It'll be like Draco. It'd be like a Draco fighting Apollo Creed first time. But anyway, um, yeah, my point was just an outline with this. You know, Jonathan, you Right? Like, he's not gonna use nuclear weapons? Not I mean, I don't think nobody's gonna do that right now. He's seemed to be pretty reasonable, sensible. And really, guys, listen, if you just be really objective, listen to what he said. He's doing he's pretty much making a lot of sense. He's saying the same things. Anyway, presidents will say, if you keep like, look at the Cuban Missile Crisis is that same thing? You know, Russia was doing activity in the backyard. Kennedy was like, Okay, what I mean, so I don't understand to me, I don't understand the the hypocrisy. But I do sympathize with the Ukrainian people. And it's always the people that suffer you know, the politicians do what they do, and people don't have shit to do with it. We don't have to do it. But we pan like, I got a seven series BMW and pan out the nose. Okay, guys, I got a lot of places to go.
Jerry Malcolm:buy real estate brothers, sell it and buy real estate. But then
Unknown Speaker:I'm really contemplating buying Miami. But you
Unknown Speaker:know, I don't but listen, we got to look at Putin from an objective point of view as well. I'm not saying your best friend. We know. We know he decided to be on KGB. However, if you listened to the man's argument, and you see what he's actually doing is nothing different that we would do under the circumstances. Let somebody step over Mexico and
Jerry Malcolm:anybody who get that much power brother, anybody who get that much power is people is going to feel is always some shyster. Is anything to get that type of power? That's a different level of power. You know, you got
Grant Cardone:power. Imagine if Russia moved into Vancouver? Canada?
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, it would be very well, it's happened already. It's happened already.
Unknown Speaker:No, imagine that they move their weapons, imagine bio weapons, they move bio weapons there. And then they already there. And we had Kamala Harris saying, three weeks before Russia invaded. And three weeks before Russia invaded, saying we want to see Ukraine in NATO, that that is that is sticking a stick in a mad dog's eye. And they had 190,000 troops. And she's continuing the very thing he was concerned about, that they that they we we were pushing to have them in NATO, so we can have our troops and our nukes, close to Moscow, and he wasn't gonna let it happen. And I think I think the gentleman just spoke to Jonas just spoke put up a very good point, you know, we wouldn't tolerate that. If it was happening on our border, whether it be Vancouver, or be Mexico, we would stop it. And he mentioned a couple of little conflicts, we went into Afghanistan. I'm not quite sure what we were doing. Then we went to Iraq, not quite sure what we were doing.
Unknown Speaker:Right, based on that same logic, right. So Russia invades Ukraine and takes over Ukraine. Now Russia has land borders with NATO disputes. You're very argument that the reason why Russia went into the Ukraine is to keep Ukraine.
Unknown Speaker:But I appreciate you articulating something. Now, I appreciate. I appreciate you are somebody else's argument? That's not my argument. My argument, my argument was that we could have prevented this. Instead, we did the opposite. We poured gasoline on the fire. I do believe this is this was a slow moving train those troops who moved there one at a time, and instead of saying hey, listen, if you're telling us Putin, that you don't want these guys in Ukraine in a NATO, we get that, and we'll take that off the table. But it was not what we did. We did just the opposite. We pour gasoline on that fire for ourselves in jail or fire so let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. How does Putin get out of this? How to
Unknown Speaker:get out of it? You literally no go you are betrayed, right? United States takes up a negotiating position and arbitrary find out what we really want or what
Unknown Speaker:why do we wait to a little kid you're dead before we start doing that, when we knew this was going on
Unknown Speaker:a long time ago. My problem with your argument is you make the assumption that if the United States never entertained The idea of Ukraine joining NATO that Putin would have been happier would have never made him
Unknown Speaker:I think. Dude, you don't know, right? Yeah. You can yell loud. It doesn't make your point. We never we can't all you that well, because we gave up the opportunity. We never tried. We had we had Biden say, hey, they're gonna make a minor incursion into the Ukraine. Do you remember that? He said, they're gonna make How do you make a minor military incursion? That was the time instead of saying that's a fait accompli? They said, Hey, we ain't gonna let you do that. And let's get the what are the issues that are gonna cause you to go in there? And let's talk about it. But he didn't do that.
Unknown Speaker:You don't. You don't compete against a guy like rush a guy like
Unknown Speaker:it wasn't competing, its weights negotiating
Unknown Speaker:words, you don't do it that way what you should what we should have done, which is what the lady said before me, which was brilliant. What we should have did this would have solved a heart a whole heartache of different problems. The United States, NATO should have taken Ukraine into NATO. Right. And by us doing so, Russia, Vladimir Putin would have never fuck with Ukraine, because now Ukraine represents NATO's I know.
Unknown Speaker:I'm dumber. Just just listening to that. I feel dumber. How would you feel is that the equivalent of missiles of Russia saying we just gonna put the missiles in Mexico, and then you'll have to deal with us. That's the equivalent of saying that
Unknown Speaker:same reason that Russia bombs Ukraine and not an inch further into Poland, which is NATO territory. The fact that you have everybody said the argument that you can only compete against Russia with strength, not weakness. And the lady that said it before me spoke volumes,
Unknown Speaker:if we didn't made it. And that's not to say that's not true.
Unknown Speaker:against Putin. If we made an assertive effort against Putin militarily and incurred Ukraine and to NATO, I would make the argument that Russia would have never fuck with Ukraine because they would be fucking with NATO, and that was set off verifiably nuclear holocaust. And you guys, DC.
Unknown Speaker:Let me stop here for a second. Let me stop here for a second. You're talking you're making some
Unknown Speaker:I like to jump in actually.
Jerry Malcolm:Wave was was was Disneyland is playing. Okay. Go ahead and Miss jumping. Like somebody unmuted somebody else. He's okay. Go ahead, miss.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I mean, I totally I'm loving these debates, and I don't ever speak but I definitely hear where Brian's coming from. And there's been, there's been a lot of reason even for me to question I ran across this journalist, and she said, what if? And really debate the news is about the what ifs, right, debating both sides of the coin, not just what makes sense. But what are the possibilities? And what came to mind was NATO and the Warsaw Pact. So essentially, her argument was, you know, Warsaw Pact was dissolved with the understanding, and there's not much history behind there. But there are, you know, minute meetings behind it saying, hey, Warsaw Pact if you guys dissolve in response to us creating NATO, right, we will stop expanding, we will stop, you know, adding on memberships taking on applications, so long as I think it was like, I don't know, a part of Germany. I'm no history buff, but I'm part of Germany joins. That'll be it for us. We'll stop joining. And let me see here. They actually let Warsaw dissolve it's done with and then NATO turns around and does what you know, one would consider like an a counter aggression to the then USSR, and they continue expanding, thereby having Putin kind of feel like okay, that was a total stab in the back. And in 2007, at the Munich Conference, Putin, it says this was his like friendly warning. It says Putin or sorry, NATO has put its frontline forces on our borders. This expansion represents a serious provocation that reduces the level of mutual trust. And we have the right to ask against whom is this expansion intended? And what happened to the assurances our Western partners made after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact? of banks, then it goes on with an American diplomat saying this is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else. Then you have another ambassador to Russia saying you craning Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite. knuckle draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin, to Putin's sharpest liberal critics. I've yet to find anyone use Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests. So I'm just kind of pointing out that there could be other arguments and it really goes back more into history as to what developed this frame of mind. Does NATO have any responsibility? Right, so I'm an attorney and in Florida, you know, there's always this idea that even if you were rear ended, there might be 2% on somebody else, right. So I just get right to that argument. Okay, I'm done. I'm landing
Jerry Malcolm:manly Wait, one second. Melody. Melody, you know what the rights mean? Okay,
Unknown Speaker:no, no, no, no, no, no, madly,
Jerry Malcolm:madly that I was building with you, Madeline. I was building with you. Like, right, right. Hey, Malik. I appreciate you for that, though. Thank you very much.
Unknown Speaker:Oh, can we just simplify real fast is is just who is in the New World Order and who's not. And basically, Putin is showing his Jesse's kids coming out like an alpha sandwich. He doesn't want to be in the New World Order. And it's basically all the global it's right now putting us in this mix. So it is.
Unknown Speaker:Did you see Do you see what they're doing to the people in hunger hungry, that they're, they're making them, they're making them taking the refugees and taking them in from Ukraine, but they're saying, Hey, listen, you guys gotta we're gonna put sanctions against you guys. Because you're not allowing certain teaching in school about sex education for exactly. Trans. And my God, a sovereign country can't even determine what they do on their own borders as part of this new world order for I don't want to be like fucking Europe, we left Europe. We have something special here. Americans probably. We left. And it's called
Unknown Speaker:attitude. America's got an attitude.
Unknown Speaker:Damn straight. We do. Thank God, we hate
Unknown Speaker:Brian, some of those trends are pretty high, you must admit, man,
Unknown Speaker:I have nothing. I have nothing against trans people at all. I have a problem with talking to five year olds about it. Okay, because I don't think children that age have an understanding. And I think it adds to confusion. And by the way, and if you're going to talk to the five year olds about it, how about talking to the parents about that first, and getting the parents to sign off on it. And now when this was being done, globally, now, by this new world order, one of the great things about having sovereign nations is you can run your country, the way you choose to run your country and the people that live there. If they don't like it, they can take their feet and they can leave. And I do believe in hungry people. I do believe in Hungary. People have the right to leave if they want to leave freely. JERRY Yeah, but the view runs the world obviously. That's all fun and games. There's
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, I have to say please, please. Right now. You are.
Jerry Malcolm:Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. So because somebody is in here, listen. Listen, people are looking and this guy was still. I don't
Unknown Speaker:care who it was. That's fucked up.
Grant Cardone:We don't use that kind of language in here, guys. Oh, it's so
Jerry Malcolm:much stuff, this F dub that you guys laugh about? So just because somebody did a little something, you know, like, stop that. It's so much FF stuff. Some of the messages you didn't hear? How
Unknown Speaker:about this? There's a hell of a lot of people hearing that noise tonight. And it's real.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, but you know that. Okay. Anyway, it was it was a joke. Move on. For me. It was a drink.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, can I follow up with a quick question?
Unknown Speaker:Exactly. Right. The joke on American League was
Grant Cardone:gentlemen dropping bombs.
Jerry Malcolm:Exactly. That's all it was. It was just a sound effect. That's it. That's it. By the way, is the intention. Everybody's
Grant Cardone:talking about Putin and Ukraine. COVID people dying opinions on any of this. Every one of us in this room should be grateful that we're not experiencing any of this tonight. Thanks. From Ukraine, from somebody from Ukraine We listen to us tonight saying, What the hell? Are these people even discussing this far? Why aren't they helping us?
Unknown Speaker:I have, right? Because we have a weak administration. That's the period point here as
Unknown Speaker:bullshit. That's bullshit. Personally,
Unknown Speaker:I'm so god damn America,
Unknown Speaker:in jail time to show strength, sadly is if you show overwhelming strength before something happens, you prevent it. peace through strength. Now Now what happens? The Neo cons want to go in there sell us more weapons, and that's on the right and the left hand side, you've got the Republicans and the Democrats, there's Do you understand there's a group in power in this country, that love fucking war, that's what they live for, and that they're licking their chops. On one side, you hit the other guys on the other side, they love it. And boy, the sending your kids and my kids off to sending our dollars off their big shots with other people's kids and other people's money never comes to spending their own money.
Unknown Speaker:I agree with you, Brian, for one damn time, I agree with you. peace through strength. problem is nobody can agree on what strength looks like.
Jerry Malcolm:The problem is we all don't have enough data. And we're kind of just, you know, making our opinions about that's all it is we don't know. But the very thing that we're complaining about is probably the very reason why we're all able to be to move around the US the way we move around right now the very things that we're complaining about.
Unknown Speaker:Why did why did China have to Olympics because they're dominating us, we need to be dominating them. Period.
Unknown Speaker:And the way you the way you beat a communist country is not with bombs, it was capitalism. It's opening up the capital markets, we crippled Russia, in the 80s by outspending them militarily by coming up with programs that would shoot this stuff out of the sky. They tried keeping up with us, our capitalist system, and our capitalist system is the best on the goddamn planet. And it brought them to their knees financially. We don't that's you don't fight communism, which is an ideal with bombs, you fight you fight it with capital, capitalism, money in the hands of the people. That's the difference between communism and capital is I mean, and capitalism. Communism believes the state's all powerful. And capitalism, the people are all powerful. And we forget that we forget, forget that this guy saw some weakness in our administration. He wants to get this done now. So we can have it all cleaned up by the time a potential next administration comes in whomever that might look at
Unknown Speaker:it here and get crazy as
Unknown Speaker:hell. Exactly. That's what he's doing. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker:He's got three, he's got three, he's got three years before we have another administration for things to sell them and to get he's gonna get what he's gonna get now, and make whatever piece he's got to make if that's what he chooses to do. And we'll have a changing of the guard in this in this country.
Jerry Malcolm:Hey, Brian, what do you think? What do you think about this lockdown, though? Brian, you didn't speak on that the China lockdown looks like apparently it's back. Look like we got a problem. We
Unknown Speaker:left man COVID COVID has been around, they just decided to come on. We had this discussion. And they decided to change the narrative for political expediency. You and I talked about this late December, early January, that come March, regardless of what the data shows that we're gonna stop. And the COVID mandates and the White House we're gonna take credit, they're gonna take credit for ending COVID They're gonna take credit, just as, just as I was saying that they blame for inflation by printing,
Grant Cardone:this is changing their name to meta. what China's doing with the lockdown is Facebook changing their name to matter to get out of their free their negative media attention, which it worked perfectly, by the way, marketing genius of the decade. And now China's going to do it because China's being asked to support Russia. And Russia says what? Oh, we got lockdown going on now, guys, so everybody now is gonna shift their attention. This is a game guys. Propaganda is the number one weapon in all wars is not military equipment is propaganda. First, second, and third, then the military equipment. So we got a propaganda machine over here. I think everybody in the room would agree. America has a propaganda machine. We see what they want us to see. Russia does the same thing. The Russians only see what Putin wants him to see. And the same thing happens in China. So don't think just because you're in a capitalist country, democracy, whatever, that you're seeing more free propaganda, our media than these other countries that are under a different political sense
Unknown Speaker:by Google. But that's exactly why that's why I was saying what I was saying is that You know, these we all suffer in propaganda and psychosis. And so when someone does exact same thing you do, oh, they're a bully. But you know, saying, because of the same reasons.
Jerry Malcolm:I tell that that's pretty deep, though, when you really, really truly think of that word propaganda when you really, because when when, when Hitler was doing his thing he was I think he basically got the blueprint or created the propaganda machine.
Unknown Speaker:I mean, it was,
Jonathan Bing:it was around before Hitler. But what I'm saying he took it to another level
Unknown Speaker:he sure did. He describe the world has ever seen. I'm just using a spin a narrative. And but but we're suffering from the same thing right now. I think, again, guys, I'm not trying to paint Putin as an angel. But I'm just saying that we got to understand that look
Jerry Malcolm:at it from a different perspective, right. Like, we may not be getting the full the full thing out here. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, everybody on this. Everybody on this stage, at the end of the day, everything they know about Putin, they got it from the media. Unless if somebody lives in Russia, you follow? I'm saying
Unknown Speaker:all of us 100. Jerry can take another look with us guys. That's an acronym. Hey, hey, Jared, I'm
Jerry Malcolm:taking a look at your brother.
Unknown Speaker:No, here we get it in some form of hey, Jerry,
Unknown Speaker:can I speak to that real quick, because I actually served in Iraq. And this is here in America, we have such short memories. I remember to the lead up of Iraq. We were supposed to go to Afghanistan, because that's, you know, where bin Laden was, and then the America pivoted to Iraq. And I'm like, wait, what? And they literally had these elaborate PowerPoints. They had the sketches, they said there's weapons of mass destruction. They, and I promise you as an American soldier, I was on the ground. And you know what I saw, I saw none of that. All I saw was US bombing a brown country to smithereens. We took over Saddam, I saw my brothers and sisters in arms die. I saw women in husbands and wives grab their kids with the clothes on their back running for dear life. I saw that. And here we are, right. And that's what I love about what the what the gentleman said down there. We only even the arguments I saw in there in the room there. You're just regurgitating what you read in a paper. You're regurgitating what you saw on the news. Exactly. And then if you don't get on that, you know what you fall into you fall into the cultural war trap. Like I just heard somebody talk about, I don't know trans rights or trans bathrooms. And I don't know what, they distract you. Because if you're distracted, you don't really see what's going on, even when it's in front of your face. And I will tell you when I was in Iraq, there was no weapons of mass destruction, but I will tell you what I did see, I saw black oil oozing out of the ground. Why is it that in Iraq the most secure place in that country is the oil fields? Is that the civilians? Is that even the base camps where a soldiers are? It's the oil fields that's the most guarded place, so we're never gonna know 100% If you're only relying on what you see in the news, and it just really upset I
Unknown Speaker:see innocent people dying due respect and that's all I need to know don't make this so complicated. My God. That liberal
Unknown Speaker:people if you say it's innocent people
Unknown Speaker:wanna write them off. You want to write it off? Not cool. I
Unknown Speaker:don't want to write anybody on the army acept in this my age up to 35
Jerry Malcolm:the guy the guy speak the guy speak right now it's raining. The other guy is not waver. Why
Unknown Speaker:don't you enlist, sir? So you can go save those same people. Why don't you enlist and go to Russia yourself? I'm Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:Check me like that.
Unknown Speaker:And the Navy is is waivers.
Jerry Malcolm:One second, Randy, go ahead, Mitchell.
Unknown Speaker:No, I hear everybody trying to justify the longer Putin is so good and why he's doing what he's supposed to do from history. The bottom line is innocent people die. That's all you should know.
Unknown Speaker:Why don't you go in list I just gave you the ages. The Army US Army if
Unknown Speaker:I'm gonna take this 48 year old fit motherfucker.
Unknown Speaker:Oh, yes, the Navy. The Navy will take you because there's waivers. You go speak go to the Navy recruiting station beside you make a
Unknown Speaker:person here. Buddy.
Unknown Speaker:And then if they won't take you then Zelinsky just put the call for everybody go there. You take your ass their point.
Jerry Malcolm:Wow. Okay, let's let's let that breathe for a second. Let them breed. Okay. Yes.
Grant Cardone:Well, well, somebody took my link down, but March 1, I said in a room.
Jonathan Bing:Yeah. Yeah.
Grant Cardone:Go ahead. Yeah, that would be UFOs over Ukraine. There will be UFO sightings over Ukraine. Oh, that's not the right post. Hold on. Let me find it. And sure enough today, I get sent. I'm gonna put it up there. Right now actually had a bet with a guy about this that there would be UFO sightings. I'm a pimss on top of age everyone you should look at this because every time there's been threat of nuclear war on this planet UFO sightings have kicked up and Real UFO sightings not bullshit sightings you guys get a chance look at this before I die look at this UFO sighting over Ukraine and you tell me if that's a jet for is that something that we've never we've never flown on this planet?
Jerry Malcolm:And don't don't even play like that grant which you just said don't play like that. Please because we need you in this room every day. Well, I'm looking at it right now I'm actually looking at it oh wow.
Grant Cardone:Watching article watching go vertical stop Ah Is that crazy? Oh wow.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, when it went up and down that was weird.
Unknown Speaker:Honestly, that'd be the best neutralizer for us if that ever if they did come right. That would be a great shift.
Unknown Speaker:I would even wake up Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker:Independence Day.
Unknown Speaker:Oh, what Putin is trying to do is establish
Jonathan Bing:a Nigerian grant. Grant grant
Unknown Speaker:could that be a drone drone connection
Jonathan Bing:yet to your point Gretna laws is my man
Unknown Speaker:drone link this video I think from salty Texas see on Twitter. He tagged me in it and I just thought it was interesting because Amaran appeared on a couple of g4 programs and sure enough, they have her in a bikini in a ball pit now with frost be okay with this is frost approving of the way that g4 TV is doing things right now? I don't know. Let's go back before we watch.
Unknown Speaker:What Wow, no
Jonathan Bing:doubt that is, but I know this right Jerry gotta fly our foreign intervention.
Grant Cardone:Hey, Jonathan Johnson, you're gonna go get the fourth vaccine now that Pfizer is pushing for an appointment.
Jonathan Bing:I'm definitely gonna I'm gonna make sure make sure I stay protected by that. But listen to me, Grant, I love you, Jerry. You gotta fly down to intervention. All right intervention for what was Grant loves his damn mind. Because of the videos
Grant Cardone:out guys play this out. Okay, that Pfizer announces the next vaccine shot in a recommendation the same day. China
Jonathan Bing:declares that they're
Grant Cardone:locking down their country. Hey, Jonathan,
Unknown Speaker:I think Tony got the grant man.
Jerry Malcolm:Tony got the grant. You know, we yeah, we touched on that earlier. And it is interesting that it is a lot of there's a few things that all happened at the same time. Now. COVID didn't go away. COVID did not go away. But the lockdown announcement, you know, could have came a week later, Tony Fadell Copeland
Grant Cardone:went away for a while. Thank god
Jerry Malcolm:yeah, he's gonna be ready.
Grant Cardone:He's gonna have his little rooms again.
Unknown Speaker:What about Fauci? They locked him up? He's in witness protection, liability, they put them away, cuz he's a liability.
Unknown Speaker:What a buddy's buddy Bill Gates.
Unknown Speaker:So here's a question on the other day, here's a question that I have. So let's say that China, you know, supposedly has these issues with the virus, and they do the same thing they did before, which is they show these videos of people falling down at bus stations and on streets and, and sidewalks, and then all of a sudden people over here in the United States, take that as a cue to now revert back to the mandates and shutdowns and lock downs. Are we just going to now capitulate like we did two years ago?
Unknown Speaker:Never gonna happen? Never gonna happen.
Jerry Malcolm:What was the point what he said was in the back channel.
Unknown Speaker:The point is that just because another country has issues with a virus just gonna go Are we gonna go for Yeah, does not mean that we have to apply all those Tiran ethical rules on our own people and our own citizens.
Unknown Speaker:That's the reason we won't see us troops in Ukraine. I think Biden's afraid that the those guys aren't wearing masks and they're not vaccinating want to put our troops at risk?
Jerry Malcolm:You know what there's another country I can't recall which one it is.
Grant Cardone:Jared there's just not enough. I'm sorry, Brian. There's just not enough consensus enough support board that the US supported it even though Congress is actually bipartisan getting on on the same page. All your Congressman's you actually tell them people hey, you You want to go over there, spend your own damn money, quit spending our money to go over there and put boots on the ground or jets in the air freaking ridiculous. We keep running our own country into the ground, messing up with other people's backyards
Jerry Malcolm:that this is kind of crazy, though, you know, to the brother who was just talking about China again, it's like it's declining everywhere. When I look at news in the States, it still shows hospitalization is down, and it keeps declining. But it's just weird. It's just spiking up again in China. It is something really confusing about that. And
Grant Cardone:they haven't done any reporting for two years on outbreaks and lock downs, but now they tell the world Oh, God, I must have it again. Yeah, there's no drop again.
Jerry Malcolm:Hey, Grant, I woke up I woke up sick this morning. I woke up with a cold so it is cold going around and coughs and whatnot. And I can tell us a cold because I took some vitamin D and some vitamin C and I feel better already failing. So anyway,
Unknown Speaker:this spike went from 150 a day to 1400. So that's
Jerry Malcolm:a big Come on, bro. Coming up. So
Unknown Speaker:yeah, that's it guys. Don't you remember when we were winning? Didn't that feel good? Didn't feel good? Have stock market going up? Having employment going up?
Jerry Malcolm:Should go. But wait, what? Wait a second. Brian, you pivot for a second? I really want to hear I want to see us say that again. Brother. You said it was 100 it was 100 something a date. And we're
Unknown Speaker:averaging between 60 to 150 bopping along, and it's only going up to 1400. Wow, that's a big jump. I guess what I would like nothing,
Jerry Malcolm:the more the virus viruses multiplying like, big time, I guess every day every couple of days in China right now. That's why they did like them throw in? Like,
Unknown Speaker:it could be the Omicron spike over there. They are getting their spike of Omicron. You know, it's probably not, you know, the COVID-19. Like it started off 2020. But this is just of course,
Jerry Malcolm:it's not that. Of course, it's not that we don't have overcrowded delta delta Cron.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, you guys remember last year?
Grant Cardone:You guys are hilarious to me. Like you guys say that you can't get the true news or information out of these communist countries.
Jerry Malcolm:And we're talking about that when you see a headliner. You're right,
Grant Cardone:you believe. Exactly, conceptually, is what you say in these rooms.
Unknown Speaker:Grand that was my point right there spiking to 1400 who believes what did they do? They actually locked down 51 million people. Was it because of a spike? Come on?
Unknown Speaker:It's a bad. A bad escaped?
Jerry Malcolm:No, it's once again, I said this earlier. The biggest thing in history, as far as finances as far as profit has been that vaccine in history, and it's only getting bigger. So yeah. How ironic. But hey,
Unknown Speaker:the Maderna patent of the virus in 2016. Who created that?
Unknown Speaker:US government?
Jerry Malcolm:No idea. None of us know, brother. None of us know. Unless you want to ping Dr. copelan. And he'll tell y'all he'll give him an interview.
Grant Cardone:What I'd like to know what Jonathan stamina meters like right now, it must be like on a two on a skilled like, what does he got, like 10 minutes on these shows? Now? You listen to podcasts. I'm be like, who's Jonathan?
Jerry Malcolm:No, you know, he was definitely doing this. He did the first part of the show today.
Grant Cardone:Oh, okay. Okay, where's he
Jonathan Bing:and I'm here now show Jonathan the show. Now. I'm here the first part of the show. No, I'm
Grant Cardone:part of the show. What are you gonna do a couple of songs and leave.
Jonathan Bing:Now, I'm actually staying quiet because we get that propaganda you guys got going on right now?
Grant Cardone:Okay. All right. That's why you stay quiet. All right.
Jerry Malcolm:Right, right. Right. Okay. Anyway.
Unknown Speaker:A huge massive like a massive fire that broke out over there in Taiwan. I think it's been like 20 hours sometime yesterday. It's real quiet on the news, but it's at their logistics center. It's the eighth largest retailer or grocery retailer in the world, and it's engulfed in flames. I don't know where it's gonna go. I've been trying to find articles on it. It's very difficult. But for it to be the eighth largest retailer in the world. It's a legit sticks center the way that it was built its location, etc. It wasn't a fire that these fire trucks could pull it off. I mean, I'm hoping you guys to take a look at it, I'd love to see what everybody thinks and how this might start sending some shockwaves even to the supply chain over there.
Jonathan Bing:Okay, the supply chains flocked Anyway, guys, I mean, right now was happening in China, they closed down that industrial center, that that's the 51 million of our supply chain is gonna get screwed there. The oil prices, gas prices, guys. We're screwed. We're screwed. Hopefully, we get some new technology out.
Grant Cardone:From that, Jonathan,
Jonathan Bing:who benefits from that? I don't know. You tell me grant,
Grant Cardone:what do you tell me? If I say anything? You're gonna be like, Oh, my God, another conspiracy? Where's your proof, blah, blah, blah. There isn't never proof on this stuff until it's too late, by the way till it's over. Okay. So when you say something like that, we're all screwed. The supply chain is locked up? What happens? I mean, once you just start, like putting the pieces of the puzzle together, if we're all if we're all screwed. Who's the victor? Well, let
Jonathan Bing:me just say in any
Grant Cardone:game in any game that you play in life is a game. Okay? All these people on
Unknown Speaker:this government gets control? That's the answer. The government gets control the regulator here,
Jonathan Bing:right. Which was important.
Grant Cardone:I think, Brian, Brian, what they could do here. And this is just a hypothesis. This could solve everybody's debt problem, because everybody's got the same problem. Everybody printed doing COVID. And everybody was already in debt before COVID. We all printed in mass is the first time in history by the way, every country on planet earth if they could print money they did. So how do you cover that problem up long term and this concept of new world order that used to be just about, you know, a dark shadows, conspiracy that is now spoken in public by leaders, and has been for the last 20 years now? New World Order? Is this the coming of the destruction of many currencies to one currency amidst all this cryptocurrency talk, which is a threat to all these governments? Brian, you've talked about that before? A local as crypto one, one crypto would be a threat to a Russian crypto or to us decentralized monetary system. Could this be the preparation for what a handful of guys maybe had been wanting to do?
Jonathan Bing:Hey, crack, can I can I try? Yeah, he was absolutely the only that the hell he said, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker:I heard what he said because it's written in the Word of God. And that's what I teach.
Jonathan Bing:Oh, okay. So you're doing the Word of God had crypto in it? No, no, I need you to pull that down by what I need to buy. Well, right now, tell me where The Crypto Show me what a crypto is.
Unknown Speaker:Let me let me say this to you. So please, can you just minute? True, okay, for a new world, the New World Order is going to happen, it's going to happen because they're going to confiscate all of the currency. There's going to be one brought one world ruler, and all of this Ukraine, the Soviet Union, and all these things are a part of it. Now, if you want to talk to me off of here, I can tell you about what's going to happen and what part Russia is going to play. And when I said I study, I've studied a word of God for 36 years, I can tell you that in plain truth whether you want to believe it or not. It's
Jonathan Bing:our how does that come? You tell by now? Can you tell him by his information right now? Because you since you could tell me this stuff offline, you know, say That's stupid. That's stupid, John, why is she Oh, she knows everything that's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. She knows.
Unknown Speaker:I've been respectful and listening to you all. Yes. Okay. I haven't argued I'm not arguing with you. But I am showing you that I can talk to you offline and tell you ABCD always talking
Jonathan Bing:Oh, no, oh, no. Oh, no. This is the woman. This is the woman that you heard her out. This is the woman that earlier said grant that that that Ukrainian had nuclear
Unknown Speaker:weapons, they had nuclear warheads that they had to turn over to Russia. It was actually remixes. I read about it. I sat here at this computer, and I read from top to bottom and I sent you something and
Jonathan Bing:on what you said
Unknown Speaker:because I've been watching TV and to me, I just see how the plan of God is
Jonathan Bing:watching TV and the planet God.
Unknown Speaker:Bring down all of the I'm telling you that all the players are in line.
Jonathan Bing:Okay? If you wanted too much TV,
Unknown Speaker:say this you can fuss and you could argue I'm not going to be ignorant to any of you. You can cheat. It's okay that you lay
Grant Cardone:this lady handled. And she has studied,
Unknown Speaker:let me say this, if you go to Revelation 13, you're gonna find out the Revelation chapter six, chapter seven, chapter eight, you will see everything and and let me say some the book of Daniel mirrors revelation, it is the answer key to Revelations. So if you go in there, you will see what all the world powers have done by looking at the statue. That never Condesa dream years ago, God gives leaders who are not Christians. Listen, you can Laugh all you want, but I'm gonna say this. I want you to look up, I just want you all to look up the Georgia Guidestones. And when you look that up, you read about it. And then you talk about
Unknown Speaker:come You. You.
Jonathan Bing:I have not actually a question. Ma'am. Let me ask you one question. How is it that you we first of all, how is it that we were so lucky to have you come into this room? The only one of the few people on earth that knows about that? And bless us with this knowledge?
Unknown Speaker:When you say this, this is not a Christian? This is not a Christian. I'm a what do you call it? We're not.
Unknown Speaker:Agenda. This is your black, your podcast. You're talking about something that's not religious right now, although it is religious. What's going on in Ukraine has a lot to do with biblical truths. Now, I'm not going to argue with you. You can laugh. I don't care. If you laugh, it doesn't matter with me because my soul is intact. I know what the future is going to hold. I'm not afraid. But I'm telling you what's going to happen within the next three years, don't you? Are you?
Unknown Speaker:Do you believe that scripture has any authority on what's happening right now?
Unknown Speaker:Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
Jonathan Bing:I know we do. Elder I'm just asking Jonathan because I don't see once again, hold on guys. We have a woman here that came in here was was not just incorrect, like way. Let me say, no, no, no, no, no. But you see, but you're a prophet now. But you're you know, stuff that's knowledgeable right now. And your prophet,
Unknown Speaker:I told you one thing that I believed which I did, it was halfway through because they did it
Jonathan Bing:was not halfway true. Like halfway pregnant, or halfway lie.
Unknown Speaker:One, they had nuclear warheads in which they had to give up to Russia. And Russia took them all, because they had certain I read I was sitting here reading it the whole time. You guys are all here. I haven't been rude to you and I haven't been.
Jonathan Bing:I'm not being rude to you either. calling you out or disagreeing with you, isn't
Unknown Speaker:you? You may know many things. That I do not know, right? But I can tell you this rude. I can tell you this. I can tell you everything that's going to happen to this world in the next three years. And what's going to happen?
Jonathan Bing:If you could tell me everything that's gonna happen to you in this world? Okay. I'm gonna call BS on that. Right and I don't care who called me room for that. Because? Because Because if you could tell me everything that's gonna happen in this world and extra years. I don't know why you Why are you a teacher? Why are you teaching instead of living the life of luxury? And
Unknown Speaker:I said as far as biblical things are concerned, I can tell you as it is aligned.
Jonathan Bing:That's fine. Give me makes it. I'm not gonna be
Unknown Speaker:mixed anything. I don't have to go back because I know what you're using. It's okay, you can call me whatever you want.
Jerry Malcolm:Wait, wait, wait, wait one second, one second. It's too many people talking one time. Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:I am saying to you is everything that has literally been spoken and our Bible has come to pass up until this point,
Jonathan Bing:and I'm not the Bible. Bible but what I
Unknown Speaker:want to say to you is you can you can laugh
Jonathan Bing:what I don't believe in what you that you are
Unknown Speaker:a favor. To many false prophets. Just go read about one thing to 10 wise versions and 10 unwise virtues because if you don't make up in your mind, to give your heart to the Lord, you will take
Jonathan Bing:it See once again. And that's where you lost me. And I think you should have lost everyone in the room. Because I never said, I never said anything like that. So you now you trying to sign characteristics and words to make yourself look, I don't know, whatever. Alright, so
Unknown Speaker:Jonathan, absolutely. And you know, and at the end of the day, I try my best to stay away from that. But, you know, for for folks who believe in the in the Christian walk in I respect that but you know, according to your word also, you know, you don't cast your pearls before the swine. And you know, make sure that you you put out a message, make sure everybody's on the same page, if this is your belief, and this is what you believe, keeps you safe and so forth. That's cool. But you have to make sure that if you're gonna put out a message that it doesn't offend other people on the stage, everybody else have different beliefs. And the way that you're putting your message out is with fear, you're over talking, you're Yes, pushing out the narrative. That's not That's not, in my opinion, the way that Christ instructed you guys to minister to work. So
Unknown Speaker:that's the way seat that's the way she decided to deliver it. And basically, the question was posed, do you believe the scripture has an authority on what's happening and daily, and what's going on right now is not necessarily the delivery you guys, if you guys want to critique her on her delivery, that's one thing, but what she's saying is, is that she has scriptural references that she can pull out that specifically address what we're dealing with right now. And the question is,
Unknown Speaker:I can refer to a fairy tale.
Unknown Speaker:Do you respect the authority of Scripture? Yes or no, it's just a simple question. does scripture say
Unknown Speaker:the same thing in Harry Potter? We're not.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, you know, you know, this is the thing. I understand that. And I'm like, wait, once
Jerry Malcolm:a grant, I mentioned this the other day. I don't know if he was in here. But I mentioned that some of the stuff that Nostradamus said, over the years, a lot of this stuff is so eerily similar to some things is going on. Ah, but is it absolutely 100% accurate? Probably not. Probably, probably. But here's the only thing with that argument. When we had the Iraq war, that they were saying, so I got a question. And, and I respect everything you say an elder, but I got a question for
Unknown Speaker:you with anyone, please. No, I'm not fighting.
Jerry Malcolm:Elder elder. I am not an elder. I wouldn't care. I wouldn't. I wouldn't terrify elder. I'm my elder. I'm not here to fight with you. I maybe you're confused. This is Jerry speaking. I'm not here to fight
Unknown Speaker:with you. It's okay. I just wanted to tell him when he said you're listening to a person who told us that they were nuclear weapons. To my understanding. I've been watching TV for a month now for this. My thought was he wanted that nuclear those nuclear plants because he has some kind of skin in the game with those nuclear plants. I thought they had nuclear weapons. But I just went online. I had been corrected. I read for this past hour. What what what is really in Ukraine. So when I said I'm a reader, I really am a reader. I'm not trying to prove that anybody, I have nothing to prove. I'm not trying to be great. I'm not no wise counselor. But I'm just telling you what I know what is written in the Word of God. I'm not perfect. I have flaws. That's all I want to say. I love you all. I don't want to argue I would rather point you to truth than to argue with you and to belittle anyone. Because I love you. I know that God loves us all on this platform. He loves every single last one of us and I'm not trying to offend or make God looks like I have
Jonathan Bing:a question for you out there. He just said he struggles loving Jonathan, though, when you said something about not when he said no to diamonds. You said that's correct. You said, right. Okay, so how you believing in God and believing in Nostradamus as well?
Unknown Speaker:Well, let me say, Can I answer that?
Jonathan Bing:No, no, no, no, I need to know
Unknown Speaker:what you said, Actually, there have been a number of people in the Word of God who were not believers in God, but God gave them dreams and prophecies that actually came to pass which one is in the book of Daniel, who is never Condesa, who was not a believer, he was not a Jew. He did not. In fact, he held captive the Jews for 70 years and Babylon, so But God's still gave him dreams and visions. It is not unlikely for God to give dreams and visions for a person who do not serve Him do not know Him. God does what he wants to do. In the Bible, a donkey talk to a man a horse, talk to a man to tell them truth. God is sovereign. He does what he wants to do us who he wants to, and He will speak to anyone to get his word across. I don't know what anybody told you next. Nostradamus has some true prophetic words that came to pass for this country. Now he may have been off on some of them. But it does not mean that any of his prophetic utterance were not true. Many of them are true and many of them have come to pass. So I don't want you to think that just because a person is in you have to be in church you have to be this great Bishop apostle to have a vision from God you do not God gives visions to ordinary people all the time, but
Jerry Malcolm:you just earned a follow you just earned a follow up from me elders. Me too
Unknown Speaker:many of you visions and dreams and these last days, you're going to see things Oh, but God is going to understand it
Jonathan Bing:out there. Listen to me, I'm not gonna follow you. Because you got up here and you made some very broad pronouncements that was incorrect. All right. And very it was well known. And you and you, you, you stood firm, until everyone told you you were wrong. He had to sit down and be like, okay, and now you remix it, I get it.
Unknown Speaker:You can you can have your
Jonathan Bing:period. You also said that you're able to tell us what's gonna happen in next three years.
Unknown Speaker:And you know something, okay. I'm gonna teach on my own.
Jonathan Bing:I understand that. I know one sentence you just said you could tell us was gonna happen the next few years. Do you think that's the only ology but see talking over me I'll let you talk. I'll let you talk to get your words out. Okay. All right. Now you're talking over me because I you don't want you're afraid I'm gonna say something No What? What I want to know is do you really believe that you know everything that's happened in the next three years? Yes, I do. It is that that right there? Sure
Unknown Speaker:listen by scriptural content only only I can know wisdom or knowledge of my own what the Bible says that so
Jonathan Bing:because here's the thing you know, when I when I have to consult it, you know can I ask my preacher? Yeah, I'm just gonna say this he's I don't know only God knows. But yet you
Unknown Speaker:come in here and you
Unknown Speaker:know maybe those people have a study eschatology yeah
Grant Cardone:cool with me getting richest fuck
Unknown Speaker:you know sometimes what's your profit a man to gain the whole world but to lose his soul? What?
Unknown Speaker:Tomorrow two things
Unknown Speaker:is no listen, you use your money to help the world that's between you and God
Grant Cardone:saying Jerry
Unknown Speaker:I don't use those words because to me anything good? I don't use words like number one.
Grant Cardone:I hope I didn't. I don't I don't
Unknown Speaker:know everything that
Grant Cardone:I said I needed to put it out there just to see what the what the Intel was on it?
Unknown Speaker:No, I would never say listen, that is your choice. That's the
Grant Cardone:the word because she still loves me even though I'm flawed Jerry
Unknown Speaker:and I do that those are your choices worse and she would like to use all I'm going to say is I choose to use words that that glorify God but help
Grant Cardone:I'm going to try to do better on that okay.
Jerry Malcolm:And that's why I followed you elder because of your personality and your energy that's
Unknown Speaker:been around now. Ready to tie
Jerry Malcolm:Come on bro. She's out there.
Unknown Speaker:You don't have to give me anything. I don't let me tell you something. When I teach I don't take a penny. I don't take what money if I do I'll give it back to someone for church I asked for I only take gas money. So if you think this is for money, I could care less about money I can get money today and die.
Unknown Speaker:These days fortune
Unknown Speaker:take me anywhere. All the Ukrainians are leaving with one bag or everything that they work for and their life is gone. They couldn't take any of it with them. And that's how life is you can make billions of dollars sir but guess what? What will that profit you to gain the whole world but lose your soul? Because
Grant Cardone:I just want to be I just want to be an example. I have done both.
Jerry Malcolm:But But elder elder elder Are you are you insinuating if somebody makes a lot of money to go lose their so?
Unknown Speaker:No, I am honestly waiting. I don't know that. This is what I'm saying. Don't ever trust in riches, you can use them to your advantage. You can do great things upon the earth with money that is not a secret.
Jerry Malcolm:But I agree with you. But let me just say it's the whole world is rich. I mean, look at the trees, the odors, riches everywhere. I think God intended everybody to be to be rich, just like the universe is rich.
Unknown Speaker:As opposed to be rich because they know how to handle money.
Jerry Malcolm:No, everybody's supposed to be rich. Let me say elder Elder God wants everybody to be rich. That's why That's why He created the earth with endless resources. He wants everybody to be rich. It's just some of us takes a little longer and the way it's not always clear. That's what the problem is. We were supposed to be rich. There's a there's a quote that goes God made enough food to feed all the birds, but he's not going to handle living to it to them in tree right. Or to you know, to the nest. I just made because my point. My point, though, elder,
Unknown Speaker:I don't want to offend anyone. The Bible says it's hard for rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. You know why God
Grant Cardone:is out harder than
Unknown Speaker:he didn't say a rich man can't enter into heaven. He said, You know why? That's because they don't want to part with their riches. They trust in it. Don't trust in money. Use it to your advantage. Use it to better This world, but don't
Jonathan Bing:ever sound like my brother my brother my brother
Unknown Speaker:at the end of the day but here's the thing, this is not the
Unknown Speaker:Bible doesn't.
Unknown Speaker:End of the day, you know, at the end of the day, man, we respect your opinion. And, you know, man, it doesn't, you know,
Unknown Speaker:it's just yeah. I don't know. Jonathan, I think she did a hell of a job responding to Jonathan. He gave me a question, a direct question, and she respond to him directly on Nostradamus and she did a phenomenal job. I think he did a phenomenal job. Because it's not easy to stand up to Jonathan. And you did it with poise and with tact, and with respect to a scripture and I don't you know, there's a lot of things that can be disputed about Christianity, but the way you displayed it today, I applaud you
Unknown Speaker:I don't know who that was talking. But you know, thank you and glories I give glory and honor to God but if I can think to you guys, I'm new. I've never been
Jonathan Bing:a member. She knows what's gonna happen for the next three years.
Unknown Speaker:Come on. Your show only tell you offline No, remember only wait Who
Unknown Speaker:just said there was a little prayer room
Jerry Malcolm:as you don't tell us offline? You're all kind of making a little bit of fun over right now.
Unknown Speaker:People don't mess with God's people. You buggy bad now.
Jerry Malcolm:Craig elder I got one second elder elder you handled yourself very gracefully. And and you know, because I'm sure you felt filo jabs coming at you and you and you did a phenomenal, phenomenal job. So I appreciate you, elder and you are definitely you know, you're welcome to debate the room debate news.
Unknown Speaker:I'm still confident because I know I have peace in my heart to know what's coming next.
Jonathan Bing:Next time. Come on correct information. Okay. It's okay.
Unknown Speaker:I thank you for telling me that because it made gave me a chance to go online and research everything that you said. And I learned something about the nuclear weapons. I just learned something. I will agree. I didn't read everything. But it took me back. And I went and read it anyway so that I wouldn't be educated
Jerry Malcolm:elder you taught me something today. Elder you taught me something today, I want to thank you. And you know what you taught me. You taught me that the Lumbee and series you taught me that? That poise no matter what's coming at you. You're just chilling, you're not easy. It's like an emote. It's like an emotional intelligence that you have when you don't get emotional. Because when we get a motion Akrotiri Yeah, we get a motion cut. I'm guilty of that. Sometimes something but I just elder you just made me better. Jonathan's
Grant Cardone:guilty of it all the time.
Unknown Speaker:Well, can I say this to you? And this is I'm not trying to the peace of God will make you confident. If you know that. The sermon is over. It can be over but I'm just telling.
Jonathan Bing:But it is we know that the news. The news,
Grant Cardone:they're losing audience now.
Jerry Malcolm:Thank you for that though. Elder. Appreciate you. Guys, you want to. I'll pass it back to you, Mr. Bing. Yeah, I gotta go.
Jonathan Bing:No, I'm fine. Let's move on. Let's pivot go.
Unknown Speaker:Can I ask a question? about Ukraine, you should say? Yes, absolutely. Yes. Because Jonathan here, this I hear is talking in here. They were talking about what Russia wants. But nobody was saying what the Ukraine people wants and what Ukraine wants. But they were all only talking about what Russia wants, didn't want need to buy their borders and stuff like that. But my question, is it simple? Has anybody been thinking about what Ukraine once because they are the ones who are being invaded? What do they want and then land right there?
Jonathan Bing:No, no. No, Ukraine had freedom. They weren't anyone that asked right now. They didn't want Russia that asked right now. No, they want because it's like, you know, we walked in and you got you started to ask me like, oh, man, you ain't want to break it up. That's what they want. They wait for somebody to break it up.
We get into as well. She's gonna ask what to wear, you know, but, you know, someone brought up something interesting today. And he brought it up at the wrong time and in the wrong context. You know, we you know, what's going on in Ukraine, and we're not talking about what's happening in Palestine, Palestine, and, and Palestine. I said, I corrected it. So I corrected you gonna correct me after I corrected so that tells me that you weren't sure. And so I corrected it. And then you're like, Okay, safe to say it. Yeah. Which is it And with that being said, and then what the Russians are doing a Syria, okay, in terms of the chemical weapons and things of that nature. So, you know, Putin has done this in Syria. And what's happening in Palestine right now, where we're so laser focused on Ukraine. What about those other I guess conflicts? How can we not we don't care as much about those complex? That's because we know
Unknown Speaker:we cannot come down to race brother. Can I ask that specific sentence in your mind? Because she's already talking about it? Yes.
Unknown Speaker:They're not blue eyed white
Jonathan Bing:people? Well, I think my race Damn. Yo, y'all some racist people.
Unknown Speaker:That was me by the resource. All
Unknown Speaker:the black people trying to get away in Ukraine right now. What was going on with them?
Jonathan Bing:Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get at. That was somebody who cares. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:Your mom's point that she felt the same way about Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, like she does?
Unknown Speaker:I do? I do? I do. But right now, we're talking about the war that's going on now. And everybody's saying that Russia doesn't want NATO by their borders. And Russia doesn't want this. But remember, it's still I am not happy with what went on in Iraq and other places. But but you know, we can just keep going back. Let us you know, we just need to we need to deal with this one at a time. There's a war going on right now. We have to deal with this. And people are just carrying water for Russia. But they don't care that anybody carrying water for the Ukrainian people who are dying every day. Right?
Unknown Speaker:But what about your people care about them? Why? Because
Unknown Speaker:you're saying we should focus on Ukraine. But I have to push back on that. We've been in Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years now. 20, Count 20. And we spent trillions of dollars. If you don't believe me, if you're in the US or anywhere, go to your nearest VA hospital. And you'll see soldiers that are coming with their limbs missing PT, post traumatic stress disorder. So I would have to push back on that your bond that that war is over over there. It's not we are still in Iraq. We're still in Afghanistan. And we need to stop watching the news and maybe
Jerry Malcolm:go wait, I appreciate you. I appreciate that. Brother. Thank you very much. And I want to remind everybody one more time debate the news has is streamed. We're not streaming debate news is on podcast where you can download it from your favorite platform, whether it's Amazon, whether it is was the other ones on Apple, Spotify, whatever the ones that you guys are on Stitcher iTunes debate. The news is on every last one of them. Once again, I thank all these incredible moderators for coming. I think Mr. John Mr. Jonathan Bing, I think Miss Mr. Grant Cardone the sponsor of debate the news for coming out I don't know if he's still in the room or dairy go sniping look like you're trying to snipe one you guys on the stage. So make sure you make sure you read one second. Make sure you guys follow Mr. Grant Cardone, show him some love. And also, I want to thank all these incredible moderators and I want to thank all you wonderful people who did not have the mod bash because if it wasn't for you, beautiful men and women debate the news would not be one of the fastest growing clubs on this platform. So thank you very much for that. However, we have come to that time when it's time to land this plane. So I'm going to remind you one more time to have you could put the link up Mr. Bing put that link up on just land for a brief moment. And while I'm doing that as anybody want to say one more little thing thing thing before we lay
Unknown Speaker:it out say some stop being so goddamn scary. We're America y'all ain't nobody bringing that shit over here. We don't forget about the people of Palestine
Jerry Malcolm:don't forget about the people Palestine now and stop and stop being so stop being so stops being so scary young stick well yeah, yeah, stand up. Stand up. Get tough. Love each other. Get tough.
Unknown Speaker:Don't get about the farm man. The Sudan is horrible. What's going on there as well?
Jerry Malcolm:Right. Okay, so everybody you see the link is up top debate the news. We go live five days a week, three to 6pm Pacific Standard Time six to 9pm Eastern time. We even did a weekend edition on Saturday night and it was lit.
Jonathan Bing:So make sure when you go I want to give things to do that. I love to hate. Mr. Grant Cardone for actually that dude came in and gave us a ton of support. Guys, I'm gonna tell you something. I gotta say this and he's gone by I still have to say this guy's he's done something that he didn't have to do. He supported this room. He supported the podcasts. He support it everything that made sure that we get out there. Right now we're growing at a freakin lightning pace guys debate the news the podcast is growing really fast, posted a couple of stats up there and somehow the podcast rooms, skinny podcast, I groups and on Facebook and people are like, like they couldn't believe what we're doing. But it's a large part has been due largely in part to grant. Guys he comes in and he support this community in terms of the clubhouse community and he doesn't care who you are, you know, and he doesn't care what you look like it he's doing it and he acts nothing he comes in to have good time and fun. And I got to give them love and respect for that.
Jerry Malcolm:And DD indeed, I have to second, third, fourth and fifth that Grant Cardone is an amazing person. If you guys ever have the pleasure to meet him in person, you're going to see a side of him and you can like wow, wow, isn't a whole nother level. But yeah, so thank you for that Mr. Bing. And once again, I want to thank all you incredible moderators, Daphne diamond diva Angel, Jackie Louise, CB you joined in today appreciate you my brother was you know, good job. Great, great, great debate. My brother. Miss pump, you're Miss mediana. But I also want to thank nivia Ocean Laurie all y'all I want to thank you to TC, I want to thank all you other people. It's not moderated. I want to thank elder appreciate you for your input elder and I appreciate your grace and poise you shared on stage. Mary Lynn and Keisha. I didn't get to get to you today because he didn't come in but but we got that conversation. Sometimes we don't work Keisha, we can get back to that. So I want to thank everybody. And once again, make sure you follow the club. Like I said, I'm at about maybe 100 Something people that we track so far that does not follow, debate the news. So just pull out your little, you know, click on Jonathan's profile or click on my profile, go to the bottom, click on debate to news become a member. It's an incredible things we got going on. Follow Jonathan Bing, follow myself, Jerry Malcolm. And like I said, I want to thank you guys very much once again, and we will be live tomorrow. So yeah, also, one more time. Follow. Debate, the news. The podcast is up there. We made it easy. All you got to do is click on it. And subscribe to your favorite platform. debate the news. We appreciate y'all. So I'm going to do a hard landing in about 15 seconds. 10 seconds. Anything. Anybody want to say this real cool before I land? Anything that anybody wants to say is really, really worth saying. There's gonna be played on our podcast that you want to say before I land
Jonathan Bing:this. God almost got us kicked today.
Jerry Malcolm:I did get my Yeah, no, I don't. I don't I a one thing about me. Angel. I don't want that smoke. I tell you I do. I am not ashamed to say I do not want that smoke. Yes. I just get grabbed my lunch pail my hard hat, my bologna sandwich and my Pringles and my orange and my and my Capri Sun and I come to work. And when I get when I get done, I'm good.
Jonathan Bing:I was back shot on my bow my pro child pro Vax posse in the back, man. We was getting ready. Right? Yvonne was ready. He was getting ready for it. Right?
Jerry Malcolm:Well, since you said that, since you said hey, look me, me, me and my let me tell me my anti Vax posse decided to do well. I said, You know what, y'all just stand back. I said, Stand back stand for right now. Because listen. You gotta know when to bring a smoke. You know, I'm saying everybody learn from today. So you know, so we decided we said Do we tag Jonathan, or do we lay low? We decided to lay low today okay, because you know what? We live to fight another battle. Okay, so Jonathan's my brother, you know what? I'm gonna tell y'all some Johnson's my brother. I want to tell you something. Every now and then your brother says every now and then your brother say some dumb shit. But he's still your brother. Do not listen. Hey, y'all do not listen, y'all y'all send me those messages talking mess about Johnson. I don't agree. I know y'all saying he's on some bullshit. Don't ever listen all y'all back channel me support me. Don't ever do that again because you're disrespecting Jonathan Bing. Okay. I know he was on some bullshit, but forgive him for that. Okay.
Jonathan Bing:messaging me telling me yo to boot Jerry down and all that other stuff. You guys, I couldn't do that to him as my brother.
Jerry Malcolm:That makes the Beta news debate because y'all gonna debate I mean, Jonathan Bing, we damn sure won't debate. So we appreciate y'all. We love all y'all. You know, so cool. Some dude in the back. So I got to get your name, brother. When you come in tomorrow. I'll make sure I'll pull you up. Some dude says something. You got kind of smart. And do actually and I said some smart back then he said, I love you brother. I was like, damn. I love you to debate the news. It's just look, Jonathan at the end of the day. This room gets gets spicy. It gets hot. It gets heated. But we all family. We all just trying to like come together. We all confused about what's going on and where we all stuck in this COVID We all got a little anxiety because of things going on the world but we're still family. We're debate the news family. So I appreciate everybody. Thank y'all. I love y'all. I'm gonna leave you all on that note. Let that breathe for a minute. We're landing in 10 seconds T minus eight seconds. T minus two seconds. See y'all Manana. Goodbye, everybody. From debate the news
Unknown Speaker:debate the news is a hit nd
