Russia Prepares Invitation 🪖/ Truckers Removed 🚛 /Covid Symptoms 🦠 with Jerry Malcolm, Grant Cardone, and Jonathan Bing
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Jerry Malcolm 0:50
I want to debate the news do me a favor ping some friends and bring them in once again ping for some of your friends while still early and tell them they'll come in I'm a dangerous man also I was still early I want you to click those double arrows at the left of your screen but something nice and cool in the hallway Lebanon we went into good little debate rush repairs and invasion truck is removed and he's COVID symptoms is still off the chart your co host with Jerry Malcolm with a special shout out to Jonathan Bing
DTN Intro 1:53
I can't I can't get it take your own Jesus hashtag I'm a dangerous man with some money in my pocket. So many pretty girls up on the end that we can fix it up just
Jerry Malcolm 2:25
once again everybody I want to welcome you to debate the news. Do me a favor and ping some your friends and invite once again some of your friends and environment everywhere everywhere I go now let me break it What's that sound?
ove. Let's get it up to about:Jonathan Bing 4:46
Jr. I'm doing great yourself.
Jerry Malcolm 4:48
I am doing incredibly stupid NBC awesome, my brother. I am doing awesome.
Jonathan Bing 4:52
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noticed that. I noticed that John.
Jonathan Bing 5:41
Oh, and newsbreak for us to be a new room and a lot of people are copying our style and copying the way we do things as well. So that also the news Redman. Hey,
Jerry Malcolm 6:00
I noticed that too, Jonathan, you know what that means my brother, that means you are a trendsetter. I try to tell people that every single title that you've ever seen Jonathan and I in the room together, every single title was created by Jonathan Bing. I literally just sit back and say, What's the title Johnson? He says, give me a few minutes. I say, Okay. He said, Here you go. Jerry, I say he say here, here's three, pick one. I say boom, be like, let's go. So yeah, you're a trendsetter, my brother, you are officially a trendsetter. There's a lot of that going on in this app right now. So once again, I want to I want to welcome Jerry. One second, take a just one second room. Go ahead, Jonathan.
Jonathan Bing 6:44
What I was gonna say is, it's very flattering, that people see value in what we're doing. And so for us to be such a young room and have I guess, different groups, some of the biggest, the bigger rooms on the app, are starting to follow some of the trends that we're doing. It's very flattering. And so, you know, it speaks volumes to what we're creating here as well.
Jerry Malcolm 7:06
Right, right. Indeed, indeed, indeed. So we're definitely off to a good start. And the only reason why we off to a good start is not because of these green badges is because of the people that do not have a green badge. Once again, I want to thank everybody who comes and shares this room with us five days a week, we appreciate y'all. I'm going to ask y'all to once again, raise your hand while still early. We are going to have a full show tonight. So make sure you raise your hand and come to the stage. As we start to debate the news. How are you doing this? Happy Valentine's Day, Tara? How are you?
Unknown Speaker 7:39
I'm good. And I want to say Happy Valentine's Day to all the guys in the room as well. I don't think it's really necessary, solely female issues. So Happy Valentine's Day.
Jerry Malcolm 7:48
Where's my gift at the end? If it's about the guys were one damn gift that well, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 7:51
you should ask them for that. I didn't buy anything so sorry. I also wanted to raise one new thing that Donald Trump's accounting firm masers, which stood behind them has just told the Trump Organization that it can no longer rely on 10 years worth of financial statements. In other words, basically, he's saying they're they're okay. His own accountants are saying, oops, he might have misled us.
Jerry Malcolm 8:15
Oh, my goodness, terror. Look at this new solid, you.
Jonathan Bing 8:20
omebody let bozos corral, the:Jerry Malcolm 8:52
Go ahead, bro. Grant. You mean the
Unknown Speaker 8:54
RNC isn't correct.
Jerry Malcolm 8:56
I guess that, I guess not. A Jonathan but you know, it's interesting that you talked about these COVID symptoms, man because, you know, even when I got over it, even you know my little stretch where my chest was hurting. It was still some days Jonty, where I would just get this little pulsating thing in my in my lung area I never ever, ever had before. Code is like, it was the same feeling that I had when I had the COVID it just come out of nowhere like for like 10 minutes, then it just goes away. They'll grab my chest not making something wrong. I think it's that stuff that they're talking about right now these extended COVID symptoms. It's like it takes a break and in the remixes and comes back. This COVID is no joke, y'all.
Jonathan Bing 9:44
Absolutely. Jerry, what they're saying is that even months later after someone is over COVID You know, new symptoms and things that begin to appear from COVID as a result are having COVID That wasn't there previously. And so I man Oh, man, this stuff is tricky, man. And so I, you know, you don't know what this is doing to your body, you know. And it's crazy. That, you know, we're trying, as we try to figure out, you know which way to go, that we continue to get more and more news about COVID COVID COVID is no joke. And it is definitely causing our body to react very strangely to Jerry.
Jerry Malcolm:Yes, indeed. So we're gonna open it up to some of the speakers on the stage. You guys can jump in this conversation. Once again, we are talking about this Russia prepares to invade or invasion truckers are removed. And you know, the point I'm really interested, I'm gonna keep it real this this longer COVID symptom stuff. This is like, you know, we can talk about COVID going away. But now I know, it wasn't just me having to my imagination. It really was something under that hood there. Anybody want to jump in? Welcome to the stage. And
Unknown Speaker:hey, Jared Stern, the trucker thing being removed here in Canada, for you guys is good. But now our government has just basically said if more doesn't happen, they're going to bring in the army. And it's almost like martial law. And they froze the bank accounts for all the truckers and one of our national banks called TD today. It's getting worse. And I think some pressure came from Biden the other day to Trudeau. They're not given up, but why live the finally, the passport mandate stuff to go into restaurants that will be gone March 1. It slowly it's making pray, man,
Unknown Speaker:that's great news. Norman. Yeah. Huge.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Well, the past. I was out by
Jerry Malcolm:She sounds familiar. Who's That? Is? That is? You got such a distinctive voice?
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. Well, with that, but you know, I'm not agree I never agreed with with the blockade. The truckers, you know, jam in the borders. But I don't know if you see it in the news, we probably got it two hours with the Ambassador Bridge to with the buffalo Detroit or wherever they are. It's not good between all of our crossing borders to, especially to Detroit, which is a big one. And to Buffalo, New York, which is an hour and a half. I mean, they're Niagara Falls. But they really what I hope doesn't happen. And a friend texted me a few minutes ago. She's going to go to over this week. So she's nuts. I think this might be the last home stretch, but bringing in the army now. And taking state of emergencies and you know, pushing every back. It's been peaceful. I just hope it doesn't accrue to any violence. I just hope for everybody's sake, because there's going to screw up the economy and just be really bad. And I say something.
Jerry Malcolm:Yep. Yes. You may say something. Go ahead. What is your name?
Unknown Speaker:My name is Yvonne Robinson Jackson from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
Jerry Malcolm:Happy Valentine's Day, Yvonne. from Ontario, Canada.
Unknown Speaker:I love red my friend. So it wasn't really peaceful. Maybe it was peaceful in Toronto. It wasn't peaceful in Ottawa. And this is where it started. And I believe that they were working on measures to reduce the the COVID restrictions anyway. However, they should find each one of them $100,000 Oh, no, no, no. Not because you're a mother and have a green badge. The if they did not raise the fines, those people would not have gone away. So it is still happening in Ottawa, we would like them to move, because they already stated their case. There is no reason for them to be here occupying the streets and preventing people who live in the neighborhoods from going out about their business. And for the people who are saying no, no, no, it is not in your neighborhood. It is not in your friend's neighborhood. If you're in Toronto, it didn't even happen there. Because they learned from Ottawa to know that they should block the roads coming into Toronto. Before it became as terrible as Ottawa, the Ottawa people felt it we are saying there was a counter protest a huge counter protest, very peaceful, huge counter protest. And we're saying it's time for you to go home and stop occupying downtown Ottawa and arrest my mic.
Unknown Speaker:Oh, Yvonne. Even though fines have been sent out or been people given tickets? Do you really think that they're going to stick up in court? You're gonna find a
Unknown Speaker:second Norman. This is about standing up to tyranny. This is standing up to forced medical mandates. Yeah, you're forced vaccine passengers. Now. I don't care. You can find me $12 million. I'm not paying it. If I'm standing up, liberty, and the freedom to choose So wait, Norman. Let me finish It doesn't matter these these fines but you're either standing for tyranny, or you're standing up against it. And that's what these truckers are doing. They're 90% vaccinated, saying we're not going to allow this tyranny to continue. Your Prime Minister Justin 333, DOE dough or whatever that was name is, is, is a dictator. And people need. That's what the truckers are doing. They're standing up to tyranny standing up for basic fundamental human rights. And you're saying that we should find them $100,000. And that means you're standing for tyranny, you're standing for medical mandates. You're standing for the passports, and I just don't support that. And I respectfully and wholeheartedly 100% disagree. Forced medical mandates are a crime again. I agree.
Jerry Malcolm:Norman Norman, please, Norman, let me speak because
Unknown Speaker:he was addressing what I said, you're in the States, stay there and speak about what's happening in your country. All I'm saying is that we're in our city. And you can say you can pay $100,000 Yes, you can pay because I hear you're talking on here all the time who you're a millionaire. Some of these people are not millionaires. Why there weren't there were billion year maybe. And the reason why some of these people were were, the reason why it took effect is because the little things that they had before were not effective enough, you can find somebody $100 to be blocking the main streets. So I was happy when they raised it. And I would like to say the truckers were there. Almost 90% of them vaccinated. This was political. It had nothing to do with truckers because a lot of the truckers all those truckers who came from wherever they were Manitoba or whatever. That's that part of the country. They are like very conservative, it was more political than truckers against mandates because the truckers are already almost 90% vaccinated so they would not be out there those from those sides of the country and a
Unknown Speaker:political who's arguing that you're listening, you're for tyranny, I'm against. Why cuz you just need to you need to land your plane and you're getting off 9% of those truckers,
Unknown Speaker:we're not vaccinate
Unknown Speaker:because you can always talk over people. Alright, keep going. I'm gonna rest my case. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:it was political. You're welcome.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, all righty. Um, cool. We are off to a good debate. Is there anybody else who want to jump in, but moderators, I want to say somebody moderating a couple people, new people in a minute. But moderators do me a favor, I'll be handling the morning. And if someone gets a green badge, I didn't give to him. I will we put them in an audit. So is there any great Anybody else wanna jump in?
Unknown Speaker:Okay, for hosting this room. Oh, did someone want to go first? No, you
Jerry Malcolm:got no lady? No happy no lady first Happy Valentine's Day. Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:So the Prime Minister Justin Trudeau just came out about 20 minutes half an hour ago, he posted on his Twitter that he would be speaking about this. So they did invoke the emergency act within the last couple of days. And what they just released is that now, if you are involved in the convoy blockade, etc, you can have your insurance stripped from you. And now they are going to be freezing bank accounts. So if you have a business bank account, they don't need a court order. All they need to do is basically decide and now they can the two big things I was I watched what he had said it was like half an hour long. He's still doing q&a. It's live if you go to his Twitter, but the two biggest things that I thought were pretty notable is that now they can freeze bank accounts without a court order without anything and now also revoke your insurance. So what happens when you revoke the insurance is obviously you can take the car, you can impound it. You can face charges, fines. And then they also reiterated that it's illegal you can be charged. They said a couple of days ago that if you're involved in the protest, you can be criminally charged so you won't be able to cross the border any ways that you can lose your job. So they're taking very extreme measures to you know, silence and make sure that the the protest stops so yeah, I just thought I would add that in there.
Jerry Malcolm:You just You just summed it up. So Britney, I'm like you basically took me I can visualize everything you just said and I could see why they're pulling back because of all that that's some serious stuff. Somebody just said they want to ask Britney a question. Go ahead, bro. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, that was me. Hey, Bernie, um, you said this was happening in Canada. Just who was it that was making these announcements.
Unknown Speaker:It was Justin Trudeau. So he just went live about probably half an hour, 45 minutes. I think it's been going on. And he just basically reiterated the emergency act. They implemented the emergency act within the last couple of days, but they're now starting to enforce it. Saturday, apparently, the convoy in the protests in Ottawa grew larger, there was more people involved in it. I mean, nobody has a counter so you can never give exact numbers. But yeah, there are freezing a lot of the bank accounts as well that are also the GoFundMe, they raised $10 million. Everyone heard about that they froze the GoFundMe. And then what happened is GoFundMe was going to take all the money raised and give it to different charities. But then what happened is they just ended up refunding everyone. So they launched go, send go, and now
Jerry Malcolm:you get the Series overview now.
Unknown Speaker:What is your mouth? Well, so
Unknown Speaker:bonds are frozen. Hey, Brittany, I want to know your opinion on this like you're a Canadian, what are your thoughts? Um, Barbara I follow
Unknown Speaker:this pretty closely. I researched it for about an hour a day when I wake up. I think that there's there's a couple different moving components to this. A lot of people are frustrated because they don't want the mandates. Basically, what happened is before the protests, Ottawa, and different provinces were one province actually went so far to talk about taxing people that weren't getting vaccinated. And so they were taking it pretty far after the protest now Manitoba has lifted the the mandates Alberta, Saskatchewan was the first one to lift a mandate then Alberta or Manitoba as but anyways, those two and now Ottawa dug for just came out within the last Britney,
Jerry Malcolm:Britney, Britney, I was gonna land you a little bit. What do you what is your take on it, though? She question, what is your view on it? What do you feel about it?
Unknown Speaker:Terry, I'm avoiding the question with facts. Okay. Some long facts.
Unknown Speaker:I mean, it's because it's canceled culture. That's why she's avoiding it. I mean, I feel your pain, Brittany, but we really want to hear from you.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, yeah, cuz cuz I want to I want to move it around to the room a little bit, though. That's why I kind of want to do but if you want to share your if you don't want to share your opinion, I'll just, I'll just leave it on, pivot away. If you don't share your your take on it. Sure. I
Unknown Speaker:mean, I think that there's there's points to every single side. I mean, what the truckers and the convoys trying to say is we don't want the mandates. We don't want to be forced to be vaccinated. But I think it really comes down to understanding the root of it is do we want the government to make choices for us? And put all these mandates and taxes and regulate or not? So I think that that's the bridge,
Jerry Malcolm:likely which you are going way around the corner with this? Are you going to share your view and as far as like, do you agree with or disagree with it? Is that what you mean? I'm going around
Unknown Speaker:a mountain being lifted. Brittany. What is your opinion? You guys, I'm gonna I'm going to I'll
Jonathan Bing:hold on brandy. I'm ready
Unknown Speaker:to share my opinion right
Jonathan Bing:now. But once again, my Brittany, you come into a room called debate the news, okay. And we're asking you your opinion. Okay, your side that you're on. And you're said, Well, you're trying to play both sides. Come on, Brittany. So John, and I spirits on this app house.
Unknown Speaker:Um, you know, everyone has rights and freedoms and i Exactly, yeah, and I'm telling you, like I said, you guys can discuss your opinion. He has the right to have
Grant Cardone:no opinion. Guys, come
Jerry Malcolm:on. Well, we're gonna pivot away. We thank you, Brittany, we're gonna pivot,
Unknown Speaker:go tracker. I'm gonna say it.
Jonathan Bing:Brittany, don't want to make you people. Truckers supporters. Upset. Let me just say before you go, listen to me. I am so damn happy they move those damn troubling truckers out the way you cannot. You cannot block the international border. That is dangerous. I mean, I mean in terms of crisis in terms of anything else, I get it. You want to go block a freeway go block a freeway, you want to have a calm where you'll have a convoy, but when you start blocking international borders, okay. that you're bringing into a country that has nothing. You're bringing the country, another country, foreign entity that has nothing to do with what you're doing into your freight that goes for Americans.
Unknown Speaker:What about the Prime Minister that's
Jonathan Bing:blocking? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen to me. citizens do not get the right to block borders. citizens do not get the right to block border ministers. No, no, no, no, you don't. Okay. What's that one second, you get your whole damn country that you could protest in your whole damn country. You do not have the right to block a border. I don't care if you're truckers. I don't care if you're BLM. I don't care who the hell you are. You don't block international borders.
Jerry Malcolm:What baby mamas got to do with this, Jonathan?
Unknown Speaker:And did she just say they want it or no?
Jonathan Bing:Yeah, yes. He said they got what they wanted. It seemed like they lost. You know, they didn't.
Unknown Speaker:And then they left and they opened up the bridges, then everybody wins. Right? If as long as unless you're against mandates? No, that's your core mandate.
Jonathan Bing:No, no, here's what you don't block the international border. That's not
Unknown Speaker:for me. I agree with you. It's not right. But guess what? We're standing up for fucking right.
Jonathan Bing:You stand up for your rights with this. What do you have a whole gang country you do not involve another foreign entity. That's
Jerry Malcolm:why they did it though. Jonathan. Just to make a make a point. Make this thing little.
Unknown Speaker:By any means necessary?
Jonathan Bing:Okay. Okay, good. So you guys are saying by any means necessary, and you guys are fine with that. Okay, next time. Next time. Next time, the pull zone cop kills. Stop burning in the damn city. You remember that? Okay, we're gonna clip this day and we're gonna play it back. Okay, that's out of context. How the hell is it out of context?
Unknown Speaker:Because the man who is the man who I quoted, negated the violence. So if you understand who quoted that, if you understand how he protested, and how he advocated for for reform, he did not mean violence. So
Jonathan Bing:they were violence. They were valid. They were valid. Listen to me, Yoshi, I get it that that's that. That's the biggest thing of bullshit I've heard all day.
Grant Cardone:Jonathan is another defeat that you and your people take this week. Week. You know what?
Jonathan Bing:It wasn't. They move they move. They move them off the bridge grant, Grant Ambassador Bridge anymore. They're gone.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, nervous.
Jonathan Bing:They weren't ready to leave. They were not ready to leave. And they left. So you guys are calling it a victory.
Unknown Speaker:So just to clarify, they did remove the blockade from the bridge. However, they have not cleared any of the protesters from Ottawa. They usually the big protest is every single Saturday for the last three consecutive weeks. But they're still protesting every single state of emergency now, in Victoria, massive turnout in Calgary. So, I mean, to say anyone's won or lost is obviously Jerry. Let's do it. I think it's still going okay.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, cool. Yeah.
Jonathan Bing:One second before we do that, because we want to talk about this man, because we're gonna break up the flow real fast because I want to because people were saying that there was winners here. Okay. And you know, last time I heard if someone told me pack up and go away before I was ready to go away. That doesn't seem like a victory to me. Okay. When you look at that, when you when you look at what's going on in the US, let's do a poll. Oh, we can do it. Oh, Uncle G. We definitely don't do that poll. But when you look at what's going on, when you look at what's going on in the US right now.
Grant Cardone:And you look at Jonathan, come on, man, you just can't keep talking. You getting you getting that from Brian Binstock, the facts you know the other side did you have admitted.
Do it. I'm right though.
truckers have won. Well, okay. Because the point of the protest the point of the protest is not to change the laws completely, but to stand up and be heard and they were heard lounging around the world is a W
even over boostered Copeland hurt him. Okay, who comes in here every day spreading lies.
Jonathan Bing:Nicole is not here. So we're gonna talk about it here to talk about Yeah, I know. I know. But it's not fair because
Grant Cardone:I'd be calling you out.
Jerry Malcolm:Colin talks about us yo, yo, yo, yo,
Jonathan Bing:Terry. Let's not do that. Jerry is a liar. Okay. Yeah, but what Once again, we cannot impeach a man on his credibility I would not let that happen. Anyone does right? I will not let that happen.
Grant Cardone:Right. He'll come in here. Hey, come on out, bro. Come on out come to the show dog.
Jonathan Bing:I'm hoping Yeah, I'll get him and I'm going to tell him each so Greg and Jerry bed not get in. Jerry Ben I get in and act like Nelson protected Mary. Okay, wait, wait wait. Straight Jerry Siri you cannot marry, marry,
Jerry Malcolm:don't ever compare me to him cuz I don't say I'm not like that dude. So don't do that. Anyway it was just for you, John.
Grant Cardone:I'd like to know the poll the poll, guys, if you had to pick a winner, was it the truckers? Or was it the government?
Jerry Malcolm:Let's start. We're going to do the poll. We're going to fill in place. Let's do this.
Jonathan Bing:They are yes, they are.
Unknown Speaker:Yes. Okay, guys, really quickly.
Unknown Speaker:Okay. So then that's it. That's not a win. Is that
Jerry Malcolm:know? What happens if somebody meets you Britton?
Grant Cardone:Yes. Brian, it is a win.
Unknown Speaker:How so?
Grant Cardone:When people are inspired by people are inspired, Brian, people are people that have never protested to anything ever are standing up for Canadians. They don't test on I
Unknown Speaker:don't measure every single victory literally every single really good metric, not a smart measure. How these things are measured. is not changed the material conditions under which you are living in that's the only point oh my god, man. We're gonna be able to do that. Period. No different
Unknown Speaker:than the Canada the trucker mandate. Yes,
Unknown Speaker:they lifted mandate. So this is okay. So
Unknown Speaker:lifted the mandate. Yeah, if they lifted the mandates, and that was the purpose for which the truckers were there, then that is a win. Regardless of whether or not word a man let's let's get
Unknown Speaker:let's get in Manitoba. Let's get the mandates in Toronto this morning or yesterday. Alberta is lifting the mandate. Saskatchewan has lifted the mandate. And there's four or five provinces that have lifted the mandates either partially or completely. The other provinces that are have not lifted the mandates are BC and a couple other provinces. So to look at the facts, Justin has not lifted the travel ban.
Unknown Speaker:Britney Britney has the has the federal mandate in Canada been lifted?
Unknown Speaker:No. So the government, the Premier's No. Lifting mandates
Grant Cardone:the fact that Trudeau has to start enforcing and using force this is this isn't that's not America, they don't do that they're then the Trudeau is having to say hey, whatever it takes, like that is a big break in their politics in the in the mannerisms which really got that whole culture and
Unknown Speaker:hopefully the bum gets thrown out. Hopefully the body
Unknown Speaker:Okay, so today I
Jonathan Bing:didn't know he's a bum Brian.
Unknown Speaker:I don't like the way he's behaving yesterday ran in the basement like the
Unknown Speaker:guns. Brian today in Canada, that safety country where no one does anything. Police arrested 11 People seizing guns, body armor and ammunition in Alberta. So some of these people are dangerous and have been preparing for violence. So that's
Unknown Speaker:everyone's looking for by the right. The overwhelming majority overwhelming majority of people that were protesting were doing so lawfully and peacefully if somebody was doing it unlawfully and violently they should be arrested but you're gonna have that in every in any protest. You always got those people that hijack it. You had some people with BLM that had great intentions and some bad people bad characters. Try to hijack it. You have the same thing with with Republican rallies you have a couple of bad
Jonathan Bing:right we let's I want to say this right here Jerry. No one but ever bring up Portland AR AR what happened in Minnesota, Minnesota. Because if you guys are okay with this happening and you guys are saying by any means necessary. It is not the protesters. Okay. It's the issue of gag. So and that's all. That's all that matters here. If it's an issue that you guys are this issue that you guys can stomach and like, you're fine with it with with your actions, okay? It's any means necessary. But if it's an issue that you don't like, You're not fine with it. That's what I'm hearing here
Unknown Speaker:anyone else?
Unknown Speaker:Unlawful and violent. That's not okay. And I'm completely okay with him being arrested, whether it's or Manitoba, or New York City when or
Unknown Speaker:if you if you block a freeway, right? How are you not are you lawful? That's not lawful.
Unknown Speaker:That's literally
Jerry Malcolm:Listen guys listen, listen, okay. Here's the problem, guys. Here's the problem. It is unlawful. It's okay. But that's why they're doing it. They're not gonna that's to get into that's working. You're right. It's to get attention. And it's
Unknown Speaker:so let's talk a protest.
Jerry Malcolm:Hey, John, like Jerry, you said, correct. Let's talk about it. Man. We know. We know. We're not prepared for college exam, bro.
Jonathan Bing:Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, as much as you cut me up again, we are not by
Jonathan Bing:Norman Norman Norman. Muhammad. I say go ahead, Muhammad Norman. Okay, go ahead, Muhammad.
Unknown Speaker:Alright, so let me just say this first, right. When it comes to protests, I want 100% support protests of any kind. I
Jerry Malcolm:don't care if you ever been in one before you ever been in one? I have.
Unknown Speaker:In fact, yes, I've been in which one was the last one. Firstly. Uh huh.
Jerry Malcolm:What was the last protest using?
Unknown Speaker:I was in I was in, in my own hometowns, BLM protests. And before that, okay, great.
Jerry Malcolm:I got you, brother. I got you. Great.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. So um, I have no problems with protest. I also like when it comes to dissent. And eventually turning violent, historically speaking, that's almost always going to be the case. I don't necessarily say that acts like this or like completely abnormal or anything like that. Honestly, I don't have a serious problem with that. It's just as long as we understand the the actual consequences that are going to come with it. That is a risk you can take in right when you sit there and break the law in order to make a point, right, you're taking that risk as a group. And as long as you understand that kind of repercussions that you're going to face. And whether that's going to actually pay out in a good way or not.
Jerry Malcolm:Well, Mohammed, my brother, my brother, my brother, your your turn to protest is not meant to be kumbaya when it's something like that we get I'm pretty sure they encounter in warriors casualty. So in protest, of course, there's gonna be some some potential, you know, casualties. I don't mean death. I mean, things things going wrong. Okay.
Unknown Speaker:But it's also it's also legal, it's also illegal to protest. Right?
Jonathan Bing:So you can't say that. There's going to be consequences in San Diego. He says legal, not illegal. Yes. So what you're saying is what you're saying with what you just mentioned is, well, if they're going to protest, then there are repercussions. Well, not according to the legal rights there.
Unknown Speaker:That's fine. If you You're right, you're right. If there's a legal protest, there probably shouldn't be any repercussions. You're correct. But if you're doing things like blocking a highway, right, civil discourse, that's different, right? So I'm saying, if they are doing that, I'm still not necessarily saying that's completely 100% wrong, because there is a point that they're trying to make it sometimes to make a point, you might be breaking the law, right? I'm not necessarily saying this. However, you have to admit that there are breaking the law, and we have to actually act accordingly to that, right. We can't just pretend like people are not breaking laws.
Unknown Speaker:So why did you say it was an act of violence to block the highway? Why did you say that's an act of violence? Because I think that's an exaggeration.
Unknown Speaker:No, no, no, no, it's so blocking someone's route. Right? If you're literally blocking somebody out, bro,
Jerry Malcolm:if they block your route, if they do not block the route, it's not going to be able to disrupt that's the whole purpose of a boundary.
Unknown Speaker:Are they saying You're right? I'm saying You're right. I'm not saying it's incorrect to do so. However, it is still an act that is illegal, which can be perceived as an act of violence, right?
Unknown Speaker:So no, not necessarily. That's a false comparison. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:it is 100% In fact,
Unknown Speaker:that's not an ethnos that's a false comparison. It's only an act of violence if a violent ad
Jerry Malcolm:is purchased Yoshi roll your window a brochure like you drive with you
Unknown Speaker:know, I'm gonna stop I'm gonna stop talking because my window is up. I'm in my work van, but my window is about waiting to our park.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, please appreciate you bro.
Unknown Speaker:These mics I mean, Yoshi and Mohammed, your mics we need to we need to work on them both very articulate, but your mics
Unknown Speaker:are? I'm sorry. I do want to say this. A bunch of noise
Unknown Speaker:I know you're now you're now you're good. I just barely.
Jerry Malcolm:Do not let that plane take off again.
Unknown Speaker:Great. Mohammed, let me just let me jump in here because you address that. Blocking the roadways was an act of violence because it inhibited people from earning income. What do you think these Force medical mandates did to people that lost their jobs? Because they didn't want to get it? I mean, listen, we be we have to stand up for our freedoms and our liberties. And these truckers were doing exactly the right thing. everything in their power to stand up for their rights, forced medical mandates are in a like, are against basic, fundamental human rights. And I applaud these truckers and if they came to the States, I would be carrying one of those gasoline tanks to help build their fill their tanks. I don't I don't agree with you about the violence. No, no. Okay. All right. But okay, no, no, your mic is killing me. As can somebody that's better on the mic thing.
Jonathan Bing:Nice mics, fine.
Unknown Speaker:So no, no, I got you. So here's, here's all I would say to you, Barbara, like, I get where you're coming from. Because sometimes, you know, right and wrong are not going to align with legal and illegal, right. So I understand what you're saying, obviously, some of the stuff they're doing is illegal. But that's not necessarily saying that they're wrong in doing so. Right. So I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you on that aspect. However, we still got to admit whether it's something that is legal or illegal, that's we got to still
Jerry Malcolm:rise to that point and don't don't really want to land you Mohammed, the only reason I land you is because you sometimes you say the same thing like five times, like you'll say something you Yeah, so just try to trim the fat brother. Is there anybody else going to Johnson, I
Jonathan Bing:want to so i want to, I just want what I want. And then grant actually actual polls, I do, I do want want to hear that and see that. Because I want to actually want to know, if who had believed that it was okay to block an international border, when I mean, you have a whole entire country that actually puts nations at safety at risk. Because if that becomes the norm, every time we protest, we head to a border. So now, you know, in terms of, so now every foreign country wants to infiltrate us and whatever, they want to do something. You know, they know that people blocked the border, they can incite something, because they do this all the time, false flags, whatever, get people out there protesting blocking the borders, okay, and then go ahead and launch and do what they have to do. You know, in terms of jobs. Guys, once again, once again, I just want Yeah, but what I'm saying to you is, listen to me, international borders should be off limits, okay. To anyone. And that's what you guys aren't getting truckers, truckers, truckers, bar, that bar.
Unknown Speaker:Basic fundamental rights are at stake and people are not going to form you're not going to get support in this kind of numbers and masses, for just any old issue. I mean, this is a major issue, basic fundamental rights, and liberties are at stake. And that's why you're getting people going to the extremes, because we have really taken away people's people's rights to choose their, what they put in their bodies, they're losing their jobs. They can't freely, you know, experience day to day things like going into restaurants, museums, into schools. So I don't think you're going to get this kind of trouble for many protests, unless, again, our basic fundamental human rights are at stake. So listen, all bets are off. They're coming at me. And my basic fundamental human rights, all bets are off. I will live off the farm.
Jonathan Bing:Glad you said that, Barbara. I'm going to say Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, okay. At Miami, you can go on and on and on. That's what Minneapolis that's what happened. When I that happened. That's what happened when the police officers, okay, we're just senselessly killing people. And people stood up. And they're that the read their response. And and prior to that was, look, that's not the way to go about doing it. But now as all bets are off, you know, because someone wants to give you a shot that and I'm not talking about you and Brian for one particular Barber, but what I'm saying is, so how is that any different? So we can't that's why I'm saying that that's what it is. Once you allow that to happen just because like one man's freedom fighters, another man's terrorist, okay, so just because we support what this particular group is doing, alright, that means we that doesn't mean we should support the lawlessness because now that opens the whole thing up that's just like, you know, they're going using a nuclear option you're using the nuclear option innocent. One second. That's like using a nuclear option in the Senate. Now we can't say Oh, okay. We lost it. We lost the Senate. Let's go back to the way it was. No, it's out of the cats out the bag. Now the other party has the
Unknown Speaker:right to use on it and you're saying you're saying that people
Jonathan Bing:follow the laws. I said, violent I tell my way when you start doing when you take it to terrorism, and blocking the border was terrorism. Okay. Because economical terrorism. Okay, come on John. Come on.
Unknown Speaker:Bro, you have to
Jonathan Bing:stop just because you defend that and you believe in it. It's okay.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, let's say I don't defend it. Let's say I don't defend it, which I do. But objectively economic terrorism? No, not not not by far stretch blocking this border or these bridges. Okay. Was pertinent to the issue that was at hand it was not mainly, yeah mainly the truckers not being able
Jonathan Bing:to know who said Stop interrupting okay alien because
Unknown Speaker:mainly the truckers not being able to enter into Canada or re enter into Canada unless they were vaccinated. This is about the Vandy so it was a strategic move that was pertinent to the issue at hand. They weren't valid. It's not an act of terrorism. It was a pertinent, pertinent strategic move. And I don't think that is going to be an automatic go to whenever people are protesting. It's just not even feasible.
Jonathan Bing:It wasn't a feasible. It wasn't a feasible move. That was a quarter. It was an escalation move. Okay, because they got away with it for so long that they said, Okay, let's push the envelope further today. That's exactly what
Unknown Speaker:they should have done. They should have pushed the envelope when their voices weren't being heard. So they occupied the city center. Five minutes. No, there was no act of violence. And it's not economic terrorism. I'll tell you what economic terrorism no economic terrorism is when you a World Bank loans money to a nation knowing that they can't pay back the debt and then get causing the nation causing the nation or this leaders transfer over natural resources that the nation itself can no longer benefit from that's
Jonathan Bing:the IMF right now. Okay.
Unknown Speaker:That was not economic terrorism.
Unknown Speaker:But that's not the definition Yoshi you know that right? Like, hey,
Jerry Malcolm:let me tell you really quick. Wait, a Muhammad meet you my brother, hey, I'm perfectly fine with you guys having a good debate. But when two people are talking and three other are talking in the background, it is the most horrible experience. And then when I play these replays and try to repurpose them, it's like trash. I gotta throw it away because he can't hear no one speaking. So please try to keep it to two people debate at one time. Go ahead, brother. Go ahead, Mohammed. Hey, Dr. copelan. Grant
Jonathan Bing:calls you a liar.
Unknown Speaker:I'm sure I'm sure he did. And I accept grants open it reality. Thank you.
Jonathan Bing:I told y'all don't tell. I told y'all don't tell.
Jerry Malcolm:Snitches get stitches.
Jonathan Bing:around you, man. Don't you crazy, bro. I like my life, man.
Jerry Malcolm:Do me a favor. Now Chuck. Now that we get in the room up to nice little number everybody that's here. do me one favor. Real quick. 15 seconds is Ping some of your friends and tell them to come in. Once again, ping some of your friends and invite them in. And we got 27 shares with 500 people in here. Give me up to 100 shares say something nice in the hallway. Say you love Jonathan Bing say Jonathan Bing is handsome. Say some cool bathroom. Tell him to come in moderators once again. And I'm talking to doctors. Don't mind that your friends are there'll be an audience in two seconds. Go ahead. Anybody
Unknown Speaker:want to say one thing? It's German. Okay. Just Oh, normal. Oh my god. The tracker thing. Minister just announced not a peaceful protest. And he's gonna invoke the emergency act. First time at Canadian.
Jerry Malcolm:Thank you. Jonathan. What about that? That was a good
Jonathan Bing:I said that. I said it is a state of emergency. I said that. But he listened to me. Those truckers are going to fail to rack up to row onto raw truth to toe they're going to feel his wrath. Right and everyone except you're talking about being gasoline. You know, I think that our BB need to get up and get a couple cans of gasoline. And then start getting ready because there's
Jerry Malcolm:precision coming my friend. I don't appreciate you coming my friend Barbara like we said
Jonathan Bing:that. That's my girl too. I will not let you do that Barbara. She says she's gonna go there and she gonna walk up with some gasoline. And imagine bar but those hills on walking over two cans of gasoline, five gallon cans of gasoline.
Jerry Malcolm:Barbara left the room. She's not even in the room right now.
Unknown Speaker:I can talk about gas. I'll bring it up there. Okay, I'll trade your beer for gas. Okay, normally
Jerry Malcolm:we get it normally you don't. Normally. Oh my god. Anybody else want to jump in? Jonathan? Yes, you can't. Can you put in a hallway? No, you cannot. You cannot say that. I
Unknown Speaker:gave you three shares already.
Jerry Malcolm:Thank you. There you go. Jonathan. See that everybody loves Jonathan
Unknown Speaker:post. He's one of the most intense Christians in this room right all the time.
Jonathan Bing:Yeah, I'll be trying to tell you by that. I'm glad you saw it. Don't be trying to tell a white out here. Intelligent stuff
Jerry Malcolm:you are. I always tell people, if I'm about to get Yvonne, you're about to get mad at me. Because look, Yvonne, when the government does something like that, right? How do you stop the government from just doing whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it? That's a handful of people picking laws when they're supposed to be supporting us, the main people, right that that the people that voted for him. So what can people do? Well, we wait till voting time, that doesn't work. So when the government does something that that that they not that the people the people don't like, the people stand together? It does. It's not violent. So would you rather them hold hands? And just what if they're dead? Just hold hands across the bridge? You know, I mean, what can they guys get me out to the people? No, no, no.
Jonathan Bing:No, I'm tasting what makes that country. So great. In Canada, Canada's much like our country, you know, we have a military that knows right and for knows right from wrong. And if the government ever instructed our military to carry out an order that will actually hurt the people. I don't believe neither one of our militaries would do that. So that's
Unknown Speaker:it. Joe, came out about 45 minutes ago, and he said that he's not invoking military backup. He did say that, again, the bank accounts are being frozen. Legal action would be taken, etc, etc. But for the last week, Justin does keep reiterating that he is not going to be calling backup from the military yet
Jonathan Bing:so normal. I mean, it's so normalized, and rightly so normalized, right?
Unknown Speaker:No, it's on the news just now. I'll send it to you, Brittany.
Jonathan Bing:Ready? You're saying Norman's a liar? Right,
Unknown Speaker:John into those words come out of my mouth? I don't think so. I'm not a
Jonathan Bing:lie. No, but I'm asking you. I'm asking you, Brittany.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, so I'm sharing what Justin had stated a little bit ago, there are multiple different news outlets that sometimes don't always get the facts right and do share different aspects of it. There's also different aspects to the military. He did call backup to clear the bridge. But using military tanks as a presence in a protest is different than calling on the military to fight back against protesters. So there's different definitions of calling in the military. But again, that's dependent on the situation.
Jonathan Bing:So no, I mean, like, Okay, so now, Norman, you're grounded for about 17 minutes. Because you up, you're purposely lying and stuff. So.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, I didn't. I didn't. There's different aspects of Okay. In the military,
Unknown Speaker:or national news. Tell me that. It's right there.
Jonathan Bing:Okay. Just call Brittany liar.
Unknown Speaker:No, I didn't call her. Why would the news Wow instigate? And
Unknown Speaker:so, clearly, that's me or Norman said, Jonathan, if that's your reality, have I? Seriously question a lot of the things that you say because both of us didn't say that. What we are saying is that the things that Justin had said, and the things that the news had said, are conflicting. So it doesn't call it nine, it means that we both like I just literally watched it come out of his mouth, about probably 45 minutes to an hour ago now, where he said that he's not. I don't know the exact terminology that he used, but he said that he is not going to be calling for military backup to remove the protesters in Ottawa. That being said, if you look at footage of them clearing the bridge, there is it does look like, you know, just from my point of view, it does look like there could be military machines there and military lockup.
Jonathan Bing:So no one's right. Okay.
Jerry Malcolm:Great once I can only go ahead, Greg.
Unknown Speaker:Jensen auto was was declared from Sunday, it was on the news. That's an emergency that was finished, please. That was to allow the government to put the resources in place. So they have not really they did not at the time do anything physical because they are in planning. Canada is different than other ways different with the different levels of government. And that's why it took so long for Ottawa, you know, for the things to happen in Ottawa, for us to get the resources and everything the way the bureaucracy works, but they did declare a state of emergency on Sunday.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay,
Unknown Speaker:yeah. So the state of emergency was declared that is, in fact, that's correct. And what that basically states is that the federal government can back up the provincial government, which in Ottawa. That's Ford. And so that that was enforced. That is, in fact, correct. That's right.
Jerry Malcolm:All right, let's keep this going. I wanted to go to some new people on the stage that has not had an opportunity to speak because I'm, I want to go to some people on the stage that has not had an opportunity to speak. Go ahead and stay.
Unknown Speaker:Thanks, Patrick. I would have a question for Jonathan. Was he okay with the insurrection at the Capitol? Now for Jonathan
Jerry Malcolm:any moderators on the stage any moderate isn't the stage you got to be following me and Jonathan? Any moderators As Monica, follow me and Josh, go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:Yes, I have a question for Jonathan. Was he for the insurrection that happened at the Capitol or he wasn't against it?
Jonathan Bing:Brawl and say something? Why would you accent like that? Man, I have never, ever, ever something that's going to destabilize our life. You know, I understand that. We have to be uncomfortable, but listen to me to go up into the heart of our democracy with such entitlement. Okay. And to the point where you were actually live streaming on social media sites, taking pictures, desecrating just the halls of where our democracy was founded? You know, I know, I'm never going to be for that. That and then to do it, under the pretense of a big lie, to say that election was stolen everything about September 6, that going into the Congress, okay, where our democracy is, and the pretense in which they did it to try to overthrow overturn a legal election. Okay. Everything about it was wrong. Everything and people that justify it, you know, what, you know, it says a lot more about you than it says about AI then than you realize, because, you know, what, if any foreign entity or anyone has done that, you know, matter of fact, if any other group, besides your group that you cheer on, would have done that you recall for their heads, you got actually told them to leave the guillotine out there, and bring them out one by one, and execute them on the site. So no, I have not, I don't support January 6, I'm sorry to disappoint you, because it sounds like you do.
Unknown Speaker:Well, my thing is the police terrorism that has been happening across the United States, that would be the next step. Just to let you know.
Jonathan Bing:All right, good. So I tell you what, why don't you go Photoshop yourself and that chamber and put it out there on Facebook? Okay, let everybody know that you did chillin. Alright. And then I will support you in any way possible.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, so you won't pay for his
Jonathan Bing:bail? Hell now. I'm going to support I'm going to say yeah. I'm gonna say yay. So, you know, I mean, like I said, if you listen to me, it's easy for someone to say that they're for something, you know, if you're for something, and you truly for it, what are you willing to give for that? Okay. And you can sit back from afar and say, I support this, Hey, I support that, you know, but be duly supported. Are you paying lip service, a lot of our a lot of Americans have gotten used to paying lip service. So that's their support. But they're not the only thing out there actually to actively go out and do something. Now. Now, some people may come up here and talk about it and show support in that manner to get the message out, you know, but, you know, just to sit there and say you're part of something just because you want to belong to something that doesn't make you a supporter.
Unknown Speaker:Sounds like the democratic quarter.
Jonathan Bing:So real quick, guys. So what we're doing is we're talking about truckers are being removed, Trudeau has had enough, they have real clarity at WD Ambassador Bridge, and that that's not going to happen anymore. That actually caused a lot of economical, I guess, suffering for both the United States and Canada. Ford and GM, especially the automakers weren't able to get their supplies you know, guys you know, that caused
Unknown Speaker:it not the not the mandates that they were protesting that had nothing to do with it.
Jonathan Bing:No demanded No, because before they started protesting, just fine
Unknown Speaker:to Jonathan a how much you how big of a check is Pfizer given you man You must be getting paid seeing a level. You know,
Jonathan Bing:when you talk about Pfizer and that speaks to you. That speaks to your intellect. has nothing. Pfizer has nothing to do with car supplies coming to through a farm to and from Canada, United States. So, you know, I'm gonna get you up. Hey, you got to continue to come here, David, and we're gonna get you up on your current events. Okay? That way you can make a sensible, sensible argument when you have when I have a sensible discussion when it's when the time comes. Alright so until then
Unknown Speaker:I already know what you're gonna say everything you say is scripted I saw it the night before on CNN when I was doing my research. Absolutely,
Jonathan Bing:absolutely. So with that being said, guys, yeah, so the truck is removed people. So is the military evolved or is in the military? Well, because from what we got the military was activated to come in.
Unknown Speaker:If you look at my story I just posted. Justin literally went live again within the last timeline of our hour and a half ish. It's an hour and eight minutes. He stated twice this week that he is not calling on military backups. If you want to see those words come out of his mouth. You can literally just go watch it on my story.
Jerry Malcolm:Good Jonathan, go ahead.
Jonathan Bing:No, I'm I'm done, bro. I'm done. You know? You know, we have that. I will toss it back to you, Jerry. You know, we
Unknown Speaker:don't want you we don't want you to be John Donne. Jonathan, we want to get you going. Please respond. Please respond a quickly and nicely.
Jerry Malcolm:A once again, everybody. Um, we're 43 down to get us up to 100 shares in that hallway. Give us a imagine that's our Cash App the hallway. So listen up. Jonathan. What do you think about this? Russia invasion? Oh, Jonathan, what's your thoughts on that?
Jonathan Bing:Wow. Um, I think Biden is um, I think Biden is putting pressure on Putin.
Unknown Speaker:You lost this right there, Jonathan. Start over, please.
Jonathan Bing:You know, let me let me let me explain why. Okay. Because yeah, it is for the peanut gallery by calling out the invasion by saying that this is what they're planning on doing. And he started doing it weeks ago. Okay? It looks it makes it look purely permitted the premeditated. Alright, and that's, that's what Putin was done all along. So if Putin was to move forward with it, Putin definitely looks like he's in the wrong, okay, even if Putin was going to evade at one point, okay, it looks like the way they called it out and said there's a false flag going to be planets, and that the Ukrainians actually attacked the Russians on the Russian side of the border and things of that nature, with corpses and all that other stuff. All that call that out ahead of time. Now we look at John John
Unknown Speaker:Johnson, you think Putin gives a shit? Whether or not the rest of the world calls him bad or good?
Jonathan Bing:Well, here's the thing. He actually does give a shit. He doesn't give a shit. Because what's going on? What's going on here? Is that what was going on here? Is NATO is going to have to get involved in this. Okay. And they will get involved. Because yeah, it's not an issue, but they made application to NATO, first and foremost.
Unknown Speaker:They have no jurisdiction to do so NATO will be in
Jonathan Bing:jurisdiction that NATO is a treaty. Okay. NATO doesn't have jurisdiction, they create their own jurisdiction.
Unknown Speaker:They can't protect a non NATO Alliance. Country.
Jonathan Bing:That's not true. That's not correct. Right.
Unknown Speaker:Problem Putin has. Putin has a problem with NATO because they create jurisdiction rather than respecting.
Jonathan Bing:Actually, no one is afraid to have a democracy right up on the border. That means a Russian speaking democracy must run Russian speaking. Russian speaking democracy. Okay. Should you ever have a problem? Should there ever be a problem with Russia? Okay, with that, that we can actually land there in Ukraine, okay, and work our way into Russia. Wait, wait, wait,
Unknown Speaker:wait to do that. I mean, we we had a problem with him putting missiles in Cuba in the 60s him to nuclear war. We always got to
Jonathan Bing:Putin was not in Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Unknown Speaker:No, no. It was no Khrushchev was putting missiles of Cuba. And we if it weren't for the fact that he blinked when when Kennedy told him I and the dialogue between them was amazing. He said, we're gonna do this and this and this and this. And then President Kennedy said back to Khrushchev, if you do that Russia will cease to exist. And they shut his mouth. And at that crucial moment, those boats turned around. If not for that we'd have had a nuclear war on our hands. So and we so we were very clear, and that was 90 miles away. The Ukraine is not 90 miles away. It's on the border. So we can't add this. I love America. I'm all for us being strong, but we get ourselves in these stupid ass wars. Putin said, for years, it was a tragic mistake of the former Soviet Union, giving up Crimea and giving up.
Jonathan Bing:He didn't give
Unknown Speaker:me 40 minutes away.
Unknown Speaker:And I say why?
Unknown Speaker:President Obama's under President Obama's leadership. We they we allow him to take Crimea, and now he's taking Ukraine. And it's very simple. He told us he was going to do this. He told us so I mean, and that was sending, you're gonna send your kids over there to fight for the Ukrainian border? I don't think so. I'm not saying that.
Jonathan Bing:You know, Brian, let me just see some Ryan that there's there was an agreement in place. Okay. That no country should take another country by force. Okay. No, no, and he's gonna sell. So once again.
Unknown Speaker:Johnny's gonna walk in through Bella ruse. He's already controlled. The Russian the Russian speaking people in Belarus. He's cut he's dumb. You're wrong. He put his he put his troops in Belarus in January was coming through the north because they're all protecting the West. I mean, the eastern border is coming through the north. Hide much John hide much. You know, this is a weird
Unknown Speaker:conversation. Right? Yeah, I just you know, it's kind of strange the way we're even talking about this because we're we are talking about how we need to like, you know, not bother with getting closer to to Russia, but it's Ukraine that is filing for NATO. Right. Like that's what they're doing. What are we going to tell them like? No, because otherwise we're gonna make daddy sure they don't find it. It works. Nice. Hold on a second. We're not gonna hold on a second. We're not going to just deny a country the right
Unknown Speaker:toe who's who's? Who's we? Who's we the
Unknown Speaker:United States is basically fucking 40% of Yeah, no, hold on a second. Let me finish let me not No, I let you talk let me talk for a second right. All I'm saying is we as in us and everyone else in NATO right even though we're basically the top the majority of the power in NATO have like there's no reason for us to be like, No, don't join us, Ukraine, because otherwise Russia is gonna be mad. Ukraine is choosing this right the Ukrainian government is choosing to be a part of NATO if we were to deny them we'd have to have a real reason to otherwise literally saying we're just gonna make daddy Russia man you just I'm just saying honestly like no joke Brian it honestly just sounds like you guys are shilling for fucking Russia like you're just telling us what
Unknown Speaker:your trip ship man listen to this
Unknown Speaker:no one cares what I don't care I just don't like you do maybe I don't
Unknown Speaker:hold on for a second it's application for NATO to try and avoid war with Russia that was as of today and thank God for that another country using our money and not paying for what they get it's another correct that's gonna free for but wait,
Unknown Speaker:what are you talking about Ukraine? You don't wait so you know why? Why the hell let me ask you a question. You don't want them why do we
Unknown Speaker:pull out why do we pull out of Afghanistan just to get involved in another What
Unknown Speaker:are you talking about? Afghanistan was a bad war we're not good just jumping into
Unknown Speaker:you know,
Unknown Speaker:it's not about this is a good war it's about literally just allowing the right for countries to have self identification. Do you not understand that right like they won't they won't in Russia walks in like you're saying they want if Russia does what you're saying it's going to do which is literally take over the country my guy. Absolutely. Okay. That's not That's not that is not identification. That is not that's literally just being invaded. You're just okay with them being invaded. That's it.
Unknown Speaker:So
Unknown Speaker:listen, please buy me the fucking things I saw their border because we getting invaded
Grant Cardone:every single day that is
Unknown Speaker:I love the deflections here. Y'all always love changing the topic.
Jonathan Bing:Gotta time guys. We're gonna do one mic at a time let them squabble.
Unknown Speaker:No, I'm saying hey, listen, I get tired of y'all always switching up a topic because you're afraid to actually make a real
Unknown Speaker:strong stop.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, wait one second one second one second one second. One second. Are we going to get Brian? Hey a Bodhi Bodhi, Glen Bodhi because you know you're you have the lowest body of his lowest microphone. Say what you're saying Bodhi said and it did not go to Mohammed. Let me call myself No bro. Bro. Please is your name Bodhi? Bro? Can you be patient? You said not you but not you, buddy to do to keep trying jump in. Go ahead, buddy.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, so let me calm myself down first. So he's saying about the invasion, like my the US is so interested to her to crane, which is 2000 miles away, right? Why the fuck, we don't help ourselves first with the southern border and all this shit, what is going on in here by me going to crane. And also, more, more than half of Ukraine don't even want to join NATO. So they push this Western propaganda over there. And you know, they push into critical war, which not only Ukraine, but the whole Europe, they don't even want to do. Like, imagine this, like most of the natural gas is coming from Russia, like the friends don't want to do a large German and don't want to do a bar. Nobody want to do a war. And another thing that Brian said is is actually true. I grew up in the region. So I know what is going on up there. So if Korean joins NATO, that's a huge trap for Russia. He's not about to make Russia mad is a huge threat. All the countries? Yeah, I know,
Jonathan Bing:their own country they can do the fun they want to do.
Unknown Speaker:Of course, I don't know.
Jonathan Bing:Russia, tell Russia to reconstruct the Warsaw Pact. Alright, and get some.
Unknown Speaker:Right, exactly like, let me go ahead and respond to you.
Unknown Speaker:In 97, they signed an agreement right in April, I'm going to expand this as far as they're going to be a threat for Russia, Russia, I'm gonna expand as far as a threat for for America, which us, you know, they did it, they get Poland in tomato, they got the Romanian tomato they got between the internet and everything else. Right now, if they're gonna get Ukrainian tomato, that's a trend that's the ballistic missile is going to be for four minutes away from Moscow. So I don't think will tolerate this. And they shouldn't write if they would put missiles in Toronto or Cuba or whatever the case will be. The USC shouldn't tolerate that. So that's the same thing with Russia. Russia shouldn't tolerate that. So that's that's my point. Go ahead.
Jerry Malcolm:Mohammed is next. Go marry.
Unknown Speaker:So let's go ahead. I'll go ahead address those two points directly in the same order, first of all, from the fact. Yeah, so so so first of all, yeah. Okay. So first of all, as far as needing to focus on a specific on on national issues inside the country versus international issues is complete horseshit, that's not how that works. You can do both. That's how countries function you always can do both national and international issues. We can discuss both anytime you want. That's one, too. As far as your point, you're talking about how 50% of Ukrainians don't want to join. No, no, that's actually 100% Ally ever since years ago, that we already took many, many polls, we have several polls. nearly 70% of Ukrainians want to join NATO and that number has been growing. So how about we stop claiming that first of all, I don't give a shit if it's not lying. First of all, that's the problem. You lie. That's what you did. I hate friends. I don't give a fuck about your friend. I do not give a fuck about your friends.
Jerry Malcolm:Brian, just want to hear me and Brian. One second. Listen, everybody. I'm just trying to hear what Mohammed is saying. I'm trying to process it. Let's just let Mohammed land. Yeah, go ahead. You can jump.
Unknown Speaker:So last point. My second point was basically that was a lie. And my third point. My last point here is I understand the concern that Russia may have as far as a basically NATO inching closer to it. I understand that, however, taking an annexing a nation is 100% an act of war that's what that is. So if you're going to say that they are concerned and you want to be an apologist for Russia, that's fine but you got to understand that a nation like Ukraine still has a right to self identify and right now they want to one be a nation of their own not Russia's property are annexed by them and two they want to join NATO and I
Unknown Speaker:have let what what pose Have you had you investigate wait Botha Indyk that indicate everything that you just said that everyone there wants to be part of NATO. I never
Unknown Speaker:said everyone I said about just under
Unknown Speaker:no nation that wants to be part of NATO. That's it. You decide. That's correct. I just said that I taught you there. Please tell me where did you investigate? All I just told you
Unknown Speaker:that there is a full. I'm literally telling you that right now about 69% of Ukrainians ever since 2017. have wanted to join NATO, you can learn a
Unknown Speaker:single, single poll. And did you investigate? Who was behind this poll? And what?
Unknown Speaker:Are you serious right now? Is this a joke?
Unknown Speaker:On my plane, this is why because you sound like a spoiled child. It's never lived outside of the US, bro. I definitely. Hold on. I didn't
Jerry Malcolm:wait. I think I know what I'm doing. I see who it is. I'm watching them. I'm watching him. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:Sorry, Jerry was talking. So so I'm just I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna say something right now. There's a lot, a lot of the comforts that you that you live in and that you have here in the US are provided to you because you live at a certain standard. But it doesn't necessarily mean that everything operates the same way. So so that the the idea, the idea that like you think that everyone wants to be part of the US and everyone lives by the same ideals doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else thinks that same way. Alright. So now the point that I'm trying to lay out is that just because you read just because just because you read things, and you get things off of US media and US websites, and US Internet doesn't necessarily mean that everything is accurate, right? So when you go off and you say a statement that everyone or that this nation wants to be something just because you read a single poll doesn't necessarily mean that that's exactly accurate, because there's polls here within the US that can indicate one way or another, and they're driven by whatever factors so when I asked you, what's driving this information, yes, yes, I am serious that I'm asking you that because I'd like facts and not just some subjective tape that you might have had.
Jerry Malcolm:Oh, damn, shit, Jerry.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, this is April. I just want to ask
Jerry Malcolm:one second April, just one second because a your meal? You kind of you kind of broke that down a little so your meal, Mohammed? Mohammed. Mohammed.
Unknown Speaker:Can y'all hear me? Yeah. No, I can hear you.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, no, Mohammed is still on the stage.
Jerry Malcolm:Mohammed. Mike, maybe. Mohammed. Okay, they're mine. Okay. Yeah. You pretty much one second Yoshi. Yummy. You pretty much broke that down, brother. I was curious to see what he had to say. Okay. Anyway, he might be on technical difficulties. Go ahead. Go ahead. I
Unknown Speaker:came off my mic. No,
Jerry Malcolm:one second Bodhi? No, I just I landed Bodie. He wasn't
Unknown Speaker:I just want to say this. This is not this. Even if 69% of Ukrainian want to join NATO is just not a smart move right now for Europe and the NATO to get Ukraine internet. All right. So it's not like that I want to join it. And it's not like that, like if you want to join NATO, there's 30 Plus members who who can decide we should take them or not. And I don't think personally, it's a smart move right now to take crane into NATO, when he's almost the war there or it will be
Unknown Speaker:totally all of your lD stabilize all of Europe, Russia will retaliate by putting missiles off the coast of the United States of America. This is not what we want the gentlemen who spoke before when he spoke of our border, protecting you. You're absolutely right. We can protect both. And you said that's International. I mean, national international, the border is both national and international. We should secure our border before looking to go secure the border over in the Ukraine. We have Russia has 100,000 troops or so off the border of the Ukraine. We have over 2 million people that 2 million that have crossed into the United States last last year, the most in recorded history. And we're expecting to see similar numbers again this year. What's your plan for those two to 4 million more people that have come in this year? And what about our national security? Is that not a threat to our national security or financial security? The bringing of all the drugs that are coming into the country, the people that are being distributed across the country in your country by country? I don't believe that's fine, Brian. We got it.
Jerry Malcolm:We got it. We got to pass this around. Okay.
Unknown Speaker:Conversation. We
Unknown Speaker:got it. We should allow Russia to go in Russia made a simple request, keep the Ukraine out of NATO. And I think that the world can agree that that might be in the short run a very good policy for us. Right. All right. Look, here's the thing.
Jerry Malcolm:Please Buddy, Buddy, I want to see what April had to say really quick because a lady tried to jump in Grand April, you want to say something?
Unknown Speaker:Thanks, Jerry, all I have to say to bowtie is if the Ukraine did not want the United States to be involved, and they would not have accepted millions and millions and millions of dollars in help from us. So we really don't care what Putin wants. That's not our not our agenda. So yeah, if they didn't want our help, they shouldn't have accepted it to begin with. I mean, that's
Unknown Speaker:not the point that we shouldn't even send them $200 million hub when Chicago was parking shooting don't worry about that. Okay, I don't worry about that. Yeah, you know, so let me just go back to grains and I so there's the there's the thing like either crane joins NATO which is a bad move because threat for Russia, and either Russia will take Ukraine so because Russia not gonna play with this. Like if NATO is there is done for them. They are ready their balls are, are in our hands. So
Unknown Speaker:I totally understand your point there.
Unknown Speaker:are related.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I get your opinion there. And I think it's a valid opinion to have like 100 understanding of how like that would put a serious threat to Russia. I totally understand that right. I'm not I'm not against you on having that opinion. It's just that at the end of the day, we have to reevaluate our own ethical linings right? Well, we want
Unknown Speaker:a cookie don't give me ethics.
Unknown Speaker:Right, hold on, hold on. Just let me finish my point. Just real quick. Just real quick all I'm trying to say is at the end of the day when it comes to international relations, right not within the United States International Relations wise. The US has always tried to spread democracy one way or another sometimes not sometimes they bullshit it right sometimes we've you know sent CIA that's that's literally what I'm talking about right now literally saying shit. Holy shit. I'm literally saying Brian, I agree with you right.
Unknown Speaker:I agree with you doing this again.
Unknown Speaker:No, that's that's not the same thing. Listen, we're not taking over fucking Ukraine
Unknown Speaker:week over
Unknown Speaker:No, no what we what? What we did what we did with with Libya was pull a coup d'etat and that's also not what we're doing with Ukraine. We took out a leader dude. You really can't took it out. We took we I'm agreeing with you on that. I am agree with you.
Unknown Speaker:He kept I agree with you. And we Holy
Unknown Speaker:shit. Right. Brian? I said I agreed with you. That was a bad idea. You're not listening here. I'm telling you that. That's correct. Totally
Unknown Speaker:cool. You're young. You're the same crew that's responsible today is going to be doing this. They're near cons. Do you understand that difference? The big money, pharmaceutical companies got their payoff. And
Grant Cardone:the big military Oh my god. They've been put Brian I got you.
Unknown Speaker:I'm agreeing with you is what I'm saying. I agreed with you already on Neo cons and Neo con politics. I already agree with you that we have been having a war Hawking administration for a long
Unknown Speaker:time. No, this this.
Unknown Speaker:Any of that? No, not just this one. We've literally got Trump. Look, I'm not I'm not gonna listen. Listen, Brian. I don't give a shit about you shilling for Trump. I don't give a damn Yeah, you
Unknown Speaker:are you always have to call names you do?
Unknown Speaker:I do. Or your son or daughter endless war.
Unknown Speaker:Are you suggesting they'll be a draft? Brian. Are you really suggesting
Jerry Malcolm:Wait a second. Wait a sec. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait is are you guys talking over each other as soon as I came back in I'm like, Damn what's going on?
Unknown Speaker:I was just trying to make a point, Gary, I just want to make one point.
Jerry Malcolm:Hey, listen, everybody. Listen, Brian, Brian. Brian. I gotta tell you all this okay. I want to let everybody speak. But But it got to be some rolling especially when Brian you got to mute your mic. You got some hot mics is static and allow. Mute your mics please. Everybody meet you like a broke? Listen. speak one at a time. Muhammad did you land? Bodie who was in this conversation just now. Okay, Grant Brian, okay, Brian in grandmommy.
Unknown Speaker:All right, cool. All I'm saying here is a while I understand these issues right. Generally speaking, the idea behind the United States is actions internationally is to spread democracy. Have we actually always held on to that? No, we haven't. We've done things like coup d'etat as we've done. The war in Vietnam. We've had in this motion, though. What's
Jerry Malcolm:up? Go ahead. Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Unknown Speaker:Alright, just blend in here as well. I'm saying, yeah, all I'm saying is, in this case, in this scenario, with this context, this is not the same thing as Iraq or Afghanistan. This is not the same thing as Vietnam. This is not the same thing as any of those. We're actually protecting the right for our countries to exist and self identify. That is what we're actually doing, which is true.
Jerry Malcolm:Do you want me to matrix my brother a mute your mic, bro? You're in a matrix. I'm just helping you out. Brian grant land you're playing Brian.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I just I would just ask a question.
Unknown Speaker:Let me just ask us to be aware of we
Unknown Speaker:successfully installed the democracy. Can you remind me what country we've been successful? I think we've screwed up a bunch of attempts to, and I just don't want to see our boys and girls over there. And Ukraine. No, my son is not subject to going there. Because there's currently not a draft. That doesn't mean I'm comfortable with somebody else's son, who volunteered to be in the military that I'm comfortable sending him or her there to be at risk. I just don't believe more. And we pulled out. It's very easy for the politicians, whoever they are Republicans or Democrats to send our kids to go die based on their inability to negotiate out a reasonable settlement. And I'm just not
Unknown Speaker:comfortable with that.
Unknown Speaker:What did you say you don't believe in war?
Unknown Speaker:No, I didn't say that. I said, I'm not comfortable sending our kids to die. When for the failings of our leaders. Were not our public interest. As far as I can see our national interest. Our security interests are not at risk. There's Putin has given us a backdoor giving everyone a backdoor that I think is reasonable. Keep them out of NATO. And I'll keep Russia out of Ukraine. Right. Since it since they've never been in NATO. They're not missing out on anything. And I think the way to avoid war
Jerry Malcolm:Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, guys, let me do is I'm open stage up to some other people. I'm gonna open the stage up to some other people because you know, other people want to jump in this conversation. Is there anybody else on the stage who would like to jump in this conversation? Jared, can I jump in? Yes, you can. Dr. Coleman before you do. I want to pay a quick bill. I want to welcome everybody to the debate, the news show. We appreciate y'all all the moderators. appreciate y'all. All the people down at the bottom and on stage. We appreciate y'all make sure you follow the moderators. But make sure you follow the creators of this space, Mr. Jonathan Bing, and myself, Jerry Malcolm, and follow that debate the news Club. We're not even a month. Oh, and we appreciate all y'all. Dr. copelan. You are on the mic and you're up next. Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:For shaded No, yeah. And so I'm not offering my opinion on the matter. I'm just giving historical context. I want to make that clear. I'm not offering my opinion on do that when it comes to these topics, right? There's a word for what you're talking about. Brian is called appeasement. Hitler demanded appeasement from the English and the French. He said, If you don't do this, I won't do that. And he will just move the goalposts move the goalposts move the goalposts and then you look up, and he's blitzkrieg in London, and killed 6000 people in a week. Right? Weakness is a problem. When you allow weaker countries default to near peer adversaries, that tends to be a problem internationally. Had Hitler not been able to conquer smaller, weaker countries, one by one, because of the weakness of the English and the French. Before World War Two, there wouldn't have been a World War Two. They should have smacked his hands six years before we started killing Jewish people. Quick right quick response. Oh, so so so the point is sort of sort of point and I wasn't done. It's not a response that wasn't done. So the point is, and landing the plane without giving my opinion on the matter. Historical context is important when you're talking about near peer adversaries that have your same similar capabilities. And I'm not speaking from that matters civilian I'm speaking from, from that matter, historically, as an officer, United States Army, that's how that works. So you have to put that into your decision making process when making these decisions. And again, I'm not offering my opinion, whatever decision the President wants to make to secure democracy. I'm going to support it as long as it's lawful, but that's my job. But the point is that when making these decisions has to be done. Historical Context. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker:Let me just respond. Let me just respond quickly. Jerry, let me respond quickly. The agreement that he's talking about was Neville Chamberlain, who said peace in our time, and he made a appeased Adolf Hitler in a train and hit the deputy was going to do anyhow, I always believe that we should exhaust all diplomatic avenues first. And since we're not appeasing this guy by simply keeping NATO out of Ukraine, we are recognizing Putin sovereignty, and he's his decision not to want to have our intercontinental ballistic missiles just 10 miles away from his border. And if we think that that's appeasement, then what happens when he wants to go back to Cuba and put missiles in Cuba? Are we going to be okay with ballistic missiles 90 miles off of Florida? You know, I don't I don't think so. And I think we're not giving him I'm not succeeding, to give the Ukraine to this, this guy. I'm suggesting that if there's a peaceful way out, where we can keep the sovereignty of the Ukraine without going to war, I don't want to see Ukrainians or Russians die either. If we can do that without giving up Ukraine, I think we should do that. That's cool.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, I make it make it, brother cuz I got I gotta I gotta open this. I gotta open the stage up to some more people, because we got a bunch of people on this on this stage. Girl. Nicolas, Nikki, once I get once I get Go ahead, Nicolas.
Unknown Speaker:All he's gonna say is just to level set. The White House has already said that we're not going to send troops to Ukraine. So I don't know why we're talking about a US draft.
Unknown Speaker:No draft troops are already there, but no draft. Alright, can I?
Jerry Malcolm:Well, I'm gonna come back to you, Mohammed.
Unknown Speaker:Brian, just one question. Say we do bow down to
Unknown Speaker:Russia and let them call the shots on this one. What does this say to Taiwan?
Unknown Speaker:Oh, just don't even bring that up.
Unknown Speaker:I'm not I'm not I'm not bowing down to nor am I suggesting we do. I was asked for something. And I could be wrong. I think it's reasonable for Russia to not want NATO, which is obsessively the United States, in the Ukraine with with their missiles with somebody rightly said that would give America a foothold right next to Russia, and we wouldn't want them in Mexico, and we wouldn't want them in Canada.
Jerry Malcolm:What do you think about? Brian, what do you think? What the question? No, no, no,
Unknown Speaker:no, no. But the preface, the question that we're giving in and this is not giving in NATO is currently not in the Ukraine. We are not giving up anything. We're saying keep it status quo. I'm not suggesting we give up the Ukraine to Russia. I'm suggesting that it Putin gave us a backdoor which is keep them out of keep NATO out of Ukraine, and I will not invade Ukraine. I think that's a viable option right now.
Jonathan Bing:There are no losers. Yeah, exactly. Let's
Unknown Speaker:jump in. Brian, why is Russia doing this right now? Ukraine is not actually even remotely being considered for NATO. Okay, wait, I'm just saying that this is. Brian, can I just finish Thank you.
Unknown Speaker:Basically, stop statement release. Sorry. Okay.
Unknown Speaker:This is basically putting this pretext right now, this has nothing to do with what we did. He said, so basically, Paul. Ryan, can I just finish? Brian? Finished? Brian, what I'm saying is basically Putin is making a power play here. So you're trying to suggest the United States doing all this shit? That's not really true Putin power play? Brian, I'm just going to finish please. I'm asking you nicely. Please don't keep interrupting. Okay. And I actually agree with you. To a certain extent, I think we should make it clear, because we've already said it, that that Ukraine is not going to be part of NATO for quite some time, if ever, because we've said that. So of the NATO members, we just wanted to hold that open. But this is Putin basically flexing his muscles. And I think which I think what people are saying is correct. When you give into a bully like this, you don't know what happens then. And I don't really understand like what you think should happen other than I understand we should go to the southern border and do everything. But other than that, I don't really understand because as far as I know, guys state sort of made it clear that she will not be part of NATO for quite some time to Ukraine
Unknown Speaker:needs to make it clear, and I think the map gets resolved. I think Putin You're right. He's a bully, and he senses weakness in our administration, we should seek a reasonable diplomatic solution. That's all I said before. And yeah, he'll it was cracking me up. I mean, you're for peace and love over here and for us being warmongers over there and again until God forbid, your, your neighbor, your son, your daughter that's over there. And and whether that
Unknown Speaker:wait no one's no one's
Unknown Speaker:Ukrainian whether it's Ukraine, you understand the death that's at risk. The lives are at risk from a war
Unknown Speaker:not the ones making the move. Brian,
Unknown Speaker:Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Mohammed isn't isn't the military. I think he understands a little bit better than you do. So there you go. Yeah. A little bit better.
Jerry Malcolm:So, Mohammed, Mohammed, a military?
Unknown Speaker:I sure am.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay. Alright, let's, let's open this on stage up a little bit. Did you guys land your plane, and everybody's on the stage before before I let them land their plane. If you want to speak be ready. If you want to speak just be ready. You know, say, you know, say your name. I'll let you jump in. But Brian, Mohammed, did you guys land y'all playing on that last topic?
Unknown Speaker:Oh, god. 30 seconds real quick, if you can hear me. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I just want to make one thing clear that we are not at a status quo. We have not been in a status quo for years. Now. That's what I want to make clear to Brian and anyone else who thinks that going back to what we were at, just like a few months ago, was not status quo. The fact of the matter is right now, we've already seated some info some some some territory on this conversation. Since we didn't bomb the ever loving crap out of Russia for annexing Crimea. That's what we're keeping forgetting. We keep forgetting the fact that they straight up took land from another country. And we did absolutely nothing about it.
Unknown Speaker:Because it is 90% for Russia.
Unknown Speaker:I don't give a about the I don't give a damn, I don't give a damn about why but my. No, I don't really care about finish. Talking, stop talking. Let me finish my point. All I'm saying is, is the fact of the matter is they look Russia literally took land from a different countries straight on them and explain from a different country. And we did nothing about it. So this is already uneven. And any idea that this is going to go back to a status quo just based off of that is absolutely insane. We are already in discussions. We are already doing the diplomatic approach, but they've already acted militarily years ago and they still mean it's a
Unknown Speaker:distraction by Biden. It's
Unknown Speaker:by 2022 Bibi are raking fucking up.
Unknown Speaker:My yo yo. All I'm saying is because all this dumb freakin demographics bullshit. Arguments are meaningless. The fact of the matter is a country was annexed part of its land. That's all it is. Okay. And at the end of the day, we are at diplomatic conversations. Right. And we need to recognize that I land my plane on that.
Jerry Malcolm:Thank you. Bodie. Okay. Did you land where you can refuel, just in case you got to take off? Is there is there is there anybody else on the stage has not had an opportunity to speak yet? Because I'm giving you the opportunity right now. If you would like that opportunity, you have to exercise that opportunity. Hey,
Unknown Speaker:Cory can can Brian.
Jerry Malcolm:No, no, no, Cory. Cory. Why don't you because I'm trying to I'm trying to mix the stage. Yeah. But go ahead. If you want to ask Brian. I'm just
Unknown Speaker:saying. He never asked him. What? What does this say?
Jerry Malcolm:He never, he did answer it the way he wants to answer your brother. He answered it. Is there anybody else who want to jump in is not an opportunity to speak yet.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, can I ask a quick question?
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, I'm trying to let y'all jump in. I keep going. Y'all Y'all not jumping in? Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:I think I think like, not you,
Jerry Malcolm:not you, bro. There was somebody before you grant the guy that said Jerry first.
Unknown Speaker:Thank you, Jerry. Just real quick. I don't want to. I agree with everything that Brian said. So I'm not going to say my opinion. But can I please ask Dr. copelan to say his viewpoint because I really respect it. And maybe I missed it if he said it earlier. Thank you. I'm done speaking.
Unknown Speaker:Dr. copelan is in the military. So he doesn't
Jerry Malcolm:No, no, no, no, we're fine. Yeah, it
Unknown Speaker:wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't given should I lost it. Yeah, I wasn't given my viewpoint. I was given historical context about appeasement and what happened and
Jerry Malcolm:he's asking you can you get no
Unknown Speaker:no, I will not. I don't I don't get my feet on this kind of stuff. Unfortunately. No, I can't so that's
Jerry Malcolm:that's that's that's his answer. Brother. He will not share his opinion. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, now there was another guy that jumped in right after you. What's your name? Sir? That came in after him. There was a guy.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. My name is Danny. Grant, bro. Yeah, yeah, I think I feel at this point China is more of a big threat and Russia. And I think we should do like, like Putin and China being like, good allies. And I think that that would be a big problem in the future. So I think we should, like look out for, you know, being more cautious with China and Russia getting together can be a big, like, break the new world or like it cause like, because both countries support communism, they both have like socialist policies. And, like, I think we should be more careful about that.
Jerry Malcolm:China and Russia getting together. You're saying there's a bigger problem. That's the bigger problem. Okay. Well, I have a I have a military strategist who just came to the room. You guys call them? Glenn. I call Anthony. You're gonna stay? Yeah, I'm here, brother. Man. Thank you for not fumbling that live. I was about to say, Damn, Anthony, bro. Right now they're talking about Russia prepares for invasion. What's your thoughts on that, bro?
Unknown Speaker:When has America not been good? That's the question that I have for y'all. So
Jerry Malcolm:what do you think about what he just said about raw in Russia and China? Coming together? We think about that.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, so here's, here's what I definitely would what? Okay, so I'm gonna speak briefly about Okay, so what does Russia have a military installation in the United States? Do does the United States have military installations? Hint, hint US embassies across the globe? Okay, so we got high ground everywhere. So one of the biggest things that a lot of people don't understand is we train every single day for this shit. So just know beyond reasonable doubt that the reason why you're able to get on clubhouse and talk shit, and go to the grocery store without a grenade being thrown in is because every single day, the US Marines, the Coast Guard, Air Force, the
Jerry Malcolm:I gotta say to someone, I'm over here smiling. You know why? Because every, every, every time Anthony come to the room, and we talk about military shit, I feel like I got a decorated general speaking atheist something about the way you explain this shit. You made me feel safer, bro. Good,
Unknown Speaker:thank you for your
Unknown Speaker:letter. Let me learn real quick. So So thank you, Jerry, for giving me the stage. Here's, here's what I definitely will tell you, if you take a US problem right now say everybody's making fun of the Space Force. Here's the problem. If I put you know, if we put one of our, you know, our US Marines into a room with a bunch of other branches, there's beyond reasonable doubt that we have the training and the culture to stand toe to toe with the enemy. The problem that we're having is not being able to get to the enemy because of cyber warfare. So the whole purpose of the just so you guys know, you heard it from my mouth. The whole purpose of the Space Force is cyber warfare, okay, and how we can get to the enemy. And here's an example. Right now, if I put you know, 10,000 troops on a US ship, you know, a US a, you know, Air aircraft carrier, and we were to go to Japan or something like that. And one of them had an eye watch on. Well, guess what, that carrier can be pinpointed based off of the technology that the enemy has, and then therefore, on that ship, you know, location will be pinpointed. And then you know, they can send drones and then they can ship sink our ships. The problem is not us being able to fight the problem is getting to the fight. And that's why we have SpaceForce but, and I'm allowing my plane here, trust me, and nobody fucking with us. I mean, that's why we're the superpower. Exactly. And the last thing that I will say, the last thing to say here, the last thing that I will say here is that we one of the biggest things that the United States has built wealth on if you haven't figured it out yet is warfare. Okay, that is our biggest export. Okay, technology and everything else. Many countries have been fighting, how we how we were able to conquer so many places, but don't worry, man, we gotta trust me. Right now listening.
Jerry Malcolm:And the I kind of feel it felt that, you know, like, a lot of times we hear people with their opinions, but you're not I think the US kind of know what they're doing. I mean, they've been this hyper power for several years. So I think they kind of, I kind of know I'm not I but they kind of know what they're doing. Thank you. Thank you, General Anthony. What would you say brother? The guy says them, it is this P, what's up P?
Unknown Speaker:Hey, and also, you know, we sent all that equipment over there. And the equipment didn't go by itself. Just remember that I remember going to Syria, and then coming back and they were talking about we're gonna send some clipping over to Syria, it was already over there because I know I was working it. And it happens all the time. So a lot of that stuff you're seeing on TV, just like same thing that Andy was saying. It's like, it's a lot of smoking games. There's a lot more stuff going on and what they're what they're actually can report because they can't because it's top secret.
Jerry Malcolm:Man, let me tell you some brother. I'm gonna let me tell you some, if anybody on this stage in the audience actually thinks that that stuff that they're getting reported is 100% accurate? Come on, y'all. You notice some there's some top secret stuff that's going on. And they tell us what we want to hear. They already they come on? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, I think I don't think Russia is going to invade Ukraine. I think Western media is sensationalizing it to a great extent. I have a few friends in Ukraine and Kiev. I asked him how the atmosphere over there socially, they says to them, they just live in their lives. They don't think Russia is going to be that's not what they're getting from them media. That's not the the sort of speak, Zeitgeist The Sydney you know, an atmosphere their temperature. Yeah. Um, another thing is, even if Russia did go in, what is the US is viable options? I think it would be arming and sanctions. I mean, going head to head with Russia, that close to Russia. I don't think the United
Jerry Malcolm:States terror Russia's asset. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:I can I think that.
Unknown Speaker:But um, and then also, you have Taiwan and China watching how this is going to be handled. So I think this is going to be handled diplomatically. It's going to, so everyone can save face. And I think some concessions are going to be made, so that everyone not getting what they want. But so like I said, a lot of face could be saved. Is there. I don't think Russia is going into Ukraine. I couldn't be.
Jerry Malcolm:One second. Is there. Is there any other military professional on this stage? Or in the audience, if there's another military professional? On the stage in this audience, I just want to hear you're even if you're retired. Yeah, I'd like to hear from somebody, some guy jumped in. What was the guy's name that jumped in?
Unknown Speaker:rushes in the right, completely? They should take? For sure. Oh,
Jerry Malcolm:wait, wait, wait, wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. I won't hear what that guy has to say. Ma, Somali, Somali, whatever your name is,
Unknown Speaker:Russia's, and we'll write because the citizens the area that they're talking about. It's full of Russian citizens. It's a majority Russian area. So I do believe that every country has the right to protect their citizens. I completely stand with Russia. And I do hope they get that area back from the Ukraine. Mother Russia.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, one second. Ali. Ali, please. Ali, mute your mic. A Pan Africa. You said right. What is your thoughts? And I want to hear some different opinions from people that's really passionate about it. What's your thoughts, bro?
Unknown Speaker:So for me, I just want to talk about as far as Russia is concerned, I'm speaking from a Pan African point of view. The US has been you guys mentioned democracy, the all US protects is its interest, wishes imperialism and capitalism, right? And imposing its will and stealing raw materials, destabilizing country after country. We've seen Libya, the American, the British and the French going on with NATO, stabilizing Libya, which we've seen what they've done with Africa, we've seen what they've done with Afghanistan. The list goes on and on and on. You got an ad. So
Jerry Malcolm:suddenly, the US US, the US is a bunch of bullies. That's what you're saying?
Unknown Speaker:Yes, the US is an imperialist country. The US right now the world is governed by Western hedge money, right? And Part Part of the reason why Africa is where she's at, it's not because she's poor. 6% of the arable land is in Africa. We have all the raw materials, we have a young population, big human capital, but after every time a leader in Africa wants to do something gets killed by the CIA or the FBI, six. So when we talk about United States keeping democracy and actually protecting freedom and liberty, it's alive. Another way its allies because they'll support Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is bombing Yemen every other day. America obviously it's an oligarchy. It's their their hip hop, you know, they sit gluttonous eating
Jerry Malcolm:Brother, what does oligarchy mean? Sit again, what this Alec Karki without whatever word is
Unknown Speaker:dictator ran by
Unknown Speaker:I was working oligarchy wealthy people
Jerry Malcolm:okay yeah hey on a Pan Pan Pan Africa that's an interesting perspective that you that you that you that you're sharing you know I know some people you know will probably want to debate that but hey I mean he's he was does go a lot of places and kind of like snap some shit up from time to time
Unknown Speaker:yeah yeah
Jerry Malcolm:and we go we go with the explanation that they give us but the people over there saying something completely different exactly pan Africa one second pan Africa pan What is your name brother your your named mama gave you?
Unknown Speaker:My mom gave me yes
Jerry Malcolm:did you was born with a what they call you in school?
Unknown Speaker:I'm called the pan Africa collective on clubhouse
Jerry Malcolm:that's what I would call what they call in school. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:well, I mean people call me Stokely Carmichael, I've gone oh,
Jerry Malcolm:well, was your teacher call you?
Unknown Speaker:He says Stokely calm
Jerry Malcolm:Wait a second pan Africa to please pull you over and get your driver's license. And he call you by your first name is Annette what would he call you?
Unknown Speaker:Would they call him Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker:Please, please.
Unknown Speaker:What's my watch? Why you wanna know my first Oh my
Unknown Speaker:God, dude, what's your name? God damn,
Unknown Speaker:I don't even don't why'd you don't need to
Jerry Malcolm:write like the first First of all, cherry cherry cherry. You know why you're talking? That's because you want to take a nap. Saying that? Hey, Pan Africa. I was shocked pan Africa. I was trying to be your frame. And I liked your energy and your vibe. I was just trying to be your friend. Man. I needed a new friend and clubhouse because a lot of these guys be dogging me out. That's all brother. Hey, I got a question. Well, you're one second broke, which is
Unknown Speaker:everything I was saying. You're good. I'm just I wanted to give the Africa's perspective. You know, you know, Pan African perspective, cuz I think everybody here we're kind of giving my opinion at least when I came in, and stayed for the least when I came in. Okay. Pro Western.
Jerry Malcolm:I appreciate that. But that's what I was trying to get your name answered. Here. Can
Unknown Speaker:I ask him a question?
Jerry Malcolm:Go ahead. Go ahead, Kathy. Glen,
Unknown Speaker:I just got a question for you brother. Where do you live?
Unknown Speaker:Where I live? I actually live in Africa.
Unknown Speaker:You live you're in Africa right now right now? Yes or no? Okay, good. Good. Yes.
Unknown Speaker:I had a feeling you're gonna say Oh, well
Unknown Speaker:you're in America. That's not why I asked you that
Jerry Malcolm:somebody some lady got a hot mic the lady with the hot mic please. Moderators hot mic
Unknown Speaker:that's that's not why I asked you because the reason why I asked you is because there is a lot of Chinese money going into Africa right now. If you notice that the if there's a lot of yeah, there's a lot of money if you guys are not following the money, there's a lot of Chinese investors that are putting money into Africa specifically for the natural resources and everything else and then also to kind of bridge the gap though, they're just putting a lot of money in and creating jobs and winning over that. That that that area so there's a lot of people that are that have eyeballs on that on that area specifically for their control of the natural resources and then also a conduit to get you know to there's an underlying reason for that you know exactly what I'm talking about right
Unknown Speaker:right the New Silk Road
Unknown Speaker:Okay, all right, we talk we speaking the same
Unknown Speaker:Listen, China's not listen. There's the saying I always tell people there are no permanent friends just permitted interest right so
Jerry Malcolm:we how we let that breathe let me say that again. Brother say that one more time.
Unknown Speaker:There are no permanent friends just permitted interest so Africa we're gonna move what our as our interest is, and right now, China has been more even though they put us in debt they have put us in debt. By the way, China's not our friend either. Nobody's asked us for an Africa really only got itself to be honest. Everybody has, has stabbed us in the back.
Unknown Speaker:Even Africa ain't its own friend. You know that?
Unknown Speaker:Well, if you're if you were if you knew if you studied history, that's kind of neocolonialism the most of these African leaving
Jerry Malcolm:rice pan Africa this month like a Pan African pan Africa Yeah, pan for make sure you keep coming. Make sure you keep coming to debate the news, my brother, I like your your vibe. So did you did you land your plane? No, bro. No, y'all
Unknown Speaker:wanna answer? The kind of just rapid I'll be very quick, cuz I don't want to give up
Jerry Malcolm:on the fact that I like you to trim the fat. Yeah. Appreciate that.
Unknown Speaker:So, to Anthony's point, China. I would say also, like, it's an Africa's best interest to leverage it. So we're not friends with America. We're not friends with China. We'll leverage everything, comparing to what the deal is. That's how I push and move. There's no loyalty with anybody. And as far as China is concerned, we're seeing they're building bases to have a base in Djibouti, they're increasing so they're not going to be any Different from America as far as increasing their military security, and their interest, protecting their interest, whether it's America using UN peacekeeping mission, which is really UN peace, not peacekeeping, but un interest keeping missions, but regardless, China is also we know about their death traps and all that. And that's why, like for us Africans, China's medicines America and American medicines is China, and we use them interchangeably. And so Africa becomes a superpower or supercontinent,
Jerry Malcolm:or we should question brother, hey, Pan Africa, I think you can answer this. I think it'd be safe with this one. Are you vaccinated or not vaccinated?
Unknown Speaker:I'm not vaccinated. And I see appreciate you, brother.
Jerry Malcolm:Or we don't get to that in a second. Once again, thank you, everybody. Thank you. Really, really, really, really well. Let me say this first, I want to thank all the moderators should have stayed with us. So everybody, you know, if you resonate with whatever moderator you feeling, give them a shout out, send them some of the back channel, give him a little follow, give a little love. But I want to give a special thanks to the people that don't have the green badge. Without y'all we would not have a room, we would not have an audience to debate news with so thank you, thank all the people at the bottom of the stage, top of the stage and the audience, etc, etc, etc. However, I'm at 58 shares. What am I talking about? To the left of the screen at the bottom of your device? There's two hours 58 People shared it. I'm just asking for 100? Just 100. Can y'all say some in the hallway? debate the news say some cute shout out to Mr. Jonathan Bing, give him a follow. Give the club a follow debate the news put the bell on. And you know, put the bell on Mr. Jerry mock myself too. Is there anybody else that would like to jump in? On this topic? Mr. P? I see. I see you duck.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah. Hey, I'd like to add a pan Africa. But can you can you let us know what country in Africa he's from?
Unknown Speaker:I'm from Ethiopia, the only country in Africa that has never been colonized.
Unknown Speaker:Right? Yeah. Cuz I spent, I spent a lot of time in Somalia in Sierra Leone, used to do a lot of missions over there. So pretty, pretty nice place. But you know, it would be nice if the whole continent can come together.
Unknown Speaker:And that's what I'm working on. Right now. We're trying to will, it's a lifetime things. I call it a F African Alliance force. It's like NATO for Africa. And that's going to change
Jerry Malcolm:work. And also, we got somebody that's just pretty pumped. You say you work and I mean, you make us a power moves, if you work on it. Appreciate
Unknown Speaker:you, brother. Yeah. Anything for anything for the black cause?
Jerry Malcolm:Appreciate you pan Africa. Appreciate you, brother. Is there anybody else who would like to jump in? But man, Jonathan, and you've been trying to say something the last 30 minutes? Yes. What's your name? Hi, Farah, you poor thing. You've been trying to say some for the last 30 minutes you couldn't speak? Ah, Farah, I'm gonna give you 30 minutes to say whatever you want to say. Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker:Thank you. I won't be that long. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much agree with what pan Africa is saying, being from Haiti? You know, I'm understanding right now what how it is that the US want to put that label as they want to establish democracy or not, we all know, that's not what that is at all. They always trying to play big brother, but in reality, they just gonna use you as a pawn. And that guy was saying that the Ukrainian people 70% of them voted that they wanted to be part of NATO. No, no, no, no, that's a lie. Because if those people really knew what was ahead, if they start if they join NATO, and the war and the conflict is going to cause cost of them and between Russia, and that, they're going to get nothing out of it, only the US is going to benefit. None of them will say they want to join NATO. And on top of that, I think just like somebody else said that you wouldn't let nobody you know, Mexico, Russia come in and put a base in Mexico. So why would he Why was us sitting there and speaking for Ukraine, just like Tara was saying to her saying that USA Ukraine is not planning to join NATO anytime soon. And I think that part is not settling. Well, we proved them saying Not anytime soon. So anytime Why is us speaking for new Ukraine? You know for
Jerry Malcolm:for how can people know someone fair? How can people know so much about stuff like this and I don't Are you military or military wife or military sisters?
Unknown Speaker:Military? What's what you got? Now I'm seeing like behind the curtain what US does that I've been watching what they doing in Haiti, because it's if once you get under their their paws, and you don't follow them, they'll turn your back on you with a quick second as they turn their back on the president of Haiti and allow people to kill them. Now they want to come back and jump in into an investigation, knowing everything that was going on over there. So US has just asked for their own interest, Ukraine, you know, the next thing you know, you're gonna have a refugee crisis in Ukraine. I mean, these people don't want that. They don't want that. Trust me. They need to like that guy. Like Brian said, they need to just take what Putin is offering. Just on, Colonel. Just let it be.
Jerry Malcolm:Let it be let it be. Go ahead, Mohammed. All right. First of all,
Unknown Speaker:she was talking about me when I said that it's just around 70%. When it comes to the boat, right? She said that that was a lie. It was not a lie. Her saying it was a lie was a lie. But let me clarify her point. Because I think her point was Kurt may be correct, there might be some credence to her point, which is that if they knew what would happen, they may have not chosen that choice. But you know, when it comes to the polling, they did choose that choice. But if her point there is that maybe the Ukrainians are ignorant of what that choice means. That's valid, it could be true that they just don't know what it means to align with US and NATO. That could be true, right? I'm not I'm not a mind reader, though. Right. I don't know what Ukrainians know, or don't know. So I can't say one way or another, right. However, the second statement that she made, which I think is obvious, does the United States do things for its own interest? Of course, it's up country, every country does things in its own interest. That's obvious, right? That's not a duh, of course, we all know this right? Then sometimes they might do things that are detrimental to other countries, just like many countries do things in their own interest. And that might be detrimental to other countries, that's for sure. But that's just international politics. That's just geopolitics right? That's just what happens.
Jerry Malcolm:You do you do a Wikipedia game right now
Unknown Speaker:bro. That's it. I learned my playing with that.
Jerry Malcolm:You sure bro? You sure you? Cuz I don't want you over here twitching cuz you got somebody's gonna say oh, I want to get Okay. Appreciate you Mohammed. And Farah. Thank you for your share. I appreciate that. Um, yes. Is there anybody? A yo a yo Are you typing your mic to clap for tip a bear or a yo you want to speak?
Unknown Speaker:I want to speak Hello?
Jerry Malcolm:Hello a yo. Hi, i Yo what did you want to say?
Unknown Speaker:And then my question is to M pan Africa. hype on Africa. I wanted to know are you pro or against Tigray?
Unknown Speaker:said again, I'm pro. I'm pro Ethiopians, all Ethiopians. Oh, really?
Unknown Speaker:So what's your take on the grid? Because you can't be saying you're poor African. I'm from Nigeria by the way. I just need to know you can't be saying all these things and you need to be unique because that was the Grant Cardone
Grant Cardone:is going to Nigeria may
Unknown Speaker:No, stop. Let them have that conversation.
Jerry Malcolm:Hey, bro, don't don't do that, bro. Yeah, it was okay. What do you say? Come on. Now. It's no big deal. This is about to go deep. Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker:You want to go deep? Yay. Let's
Unknown Speaker:go dairy. Go deep.
Jerry Malcolm:No, listen, a pan Africa and a yo. Finish your conversation. Okay.
Unknown Speaker:So I want I want to see what because I got to see if you're a propagandist, because some people who are talking about through our situation are spewing propaganda. So which, what do you mean by that? Elaborate your question, which?
Unknown Speaker:Okay, so, um, here's how I see things, right. In order for Africa to move forward. I don't want to go too deep. But we need to understand what has happened to the black race, right. And so in order for us to move forward, we need to be able to work together, right. It's easy for people to see a lot of things and have the passion for it. But do they really do the work? And are you willing to take a stance? Right. And there are different types of stances. So you could take so we're talking about Ukraine or Russia, so you could take the Sweden and the Norwegian stand and say, Listen, I'm not going to do anything. I'm just going to try and walk with peace and walk for my own vested interest. Or are you saying that you want
Jerry Malcolm:to wait one second? I got a thin slice y'all for one second. I appreciate I was gonna let y'all go. But I think you guys not just gonna go deep. I think you're gonna go very long. Oh, sorry. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz you know, we got it. We got to open the room up for other people. Um, yeah. So we'll probably get back to that deep conversation in a bit. Is there anybody on
Grant Cardone:Nigeria to the Nigerian lady Grant Cardone is going to Nigeria in May and I want to meet you. I'm serious. I'm playing
Unknown Speaker:kung fu kung fu kung fu
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, he's gonna come. Yeah, are you are you going to do an event? Are you gonna do an event out there? Yes, I
Unknown Speaker:am. Gonna ride with you. booja booja
Jerry Malcolm:This is Jonathan. I want to go out and go potty different, right? I hope I think wait grant grant grant, she said Nigerians party different. She don't know if you can keep up grant
Grant Cardone:Oh, trust me
Jerry Malcolm:Wait, wait wait grant we will you tell her that you could definitely definitely definitely definitely keep up grant we
Unknown Speaker:know Miami. This is not my
Jonathan Bing:grant. They must not know how grant gets down in real life. Great we love know how you get down in real life just think I'm some conservative white man. Who You Are. who you are. I am. Who I Am. So listen, Nigeria he the guy Murad in Nigeria. It may
Jerry Malcolm:it may not be any room for you, Jonathan. It may not be any room for you. Last time but on my
Grant Cardone:plane, he passed out Jonathan. He sure did. And we got we got pictures for it talk about can handle the party. Comfortable. Hey, so
Jonathan Bing:it was comfortable as hell. I'm good. Gee, I'm gonna tell you something. It was a smooth as ride.
Jerry Malcolm:Yes, it was. And this room is sponsored as y'all can see by card own capital. So y'all click on the link up top. And see what is that 69 News? Give him his flowers. Thank you for that. Mr. Grant Cardone is in the building. Is there any? Awesome. I've got
Unknown Speaker:something to say.
Jerry Malcolm:Man, if you can, if you can, bro, don't you ever disrespect yourself? Like this is your stage. I just work on you very
Unknown Speaker:much. Thank you very much. And I'm just trying my two cents. Um, my name is Simon. Go ahead, Simon. Thank you. So it's just a different perspective, when I look at the African. Right? Just, if you look at the countries in Africa, and you look at the other countries in the world, and you think countries that was third world countries and how they've developed and you think of that dynamic, right. And you think Africa has been split into multiple multiple small countries that struggles to actually defend itself in anything or represent a big scale, right. So like, let's say, we use United States, for instance, which is many, many states that's formed one big country, which can leverage itself as a big superpower. Africa struggles with that, in itself, we have the history and our side, we have the continuous history. But we also have many small divided countries that has been divided by different languages from different colonial masters, right. So that's a division in itself. Right? And then you think of other countries, like, for instance, the countries that are rapidly growing, let's say, for instance?
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, let me ask your opinion. Oh, brother, I appreciate what you're saying about that. But but if I can have your permission, I want to ask you something totally, totally different. What do you think about these COVID symptoms that they say COVID? When it goes away, and it's coming back, like a month, two months later, they're still getting, like symptoms that they had before? And it's not necessarily where they're positive. But it's just coming back? Have you heard anything about that in the news?
Unknown Speaker:I have heard I try not focus too much on the conventional news. But yes, I have heard and I've seen, you know, when you live in this new world, you see things and I think more than what you hear what you seek and explain that story in itself. I think there is something and we don't know what it is. But it's not as what this is not what they're selling to us. And I think at this stage, the vaccines, and I'm not trying to promote anything to anybody, but I do think the vaccine is causing more harm than good. They're forcing it down people's throats. And you have yesterday I was kicked out of a room because there was people spreading propaganda only wanted to have one sided views. And they and and this is science, right? And science has never been that. So when you force in the world population to do one thing that they don't necessarily think is logical for them to do. It's called ultimately gonna bring a kick back. And that's only because of one thing. And I think, again, I said this somewhere else before the set up the set of patients cures a patient last, when you think of a pharmaceutical drug, so why think these vaccines is causing more damage than good and it's gonna cause more long term damages to people, their kids and everything that comes with it, right. So and there's no end in sight. So that's when when people that force vaccines on people and you keep telling people take this vaccine and they take it every three or six months. When does it stop? Right? So
Jerry Malcolm:to know, so to you my way, brother, I'm gonna build with you to use not about the vaccine. It's about the way they're trying to like, if I can use a word the way they're trying to force the vaccine That's what you're saying is go ahead, brother.
Unknown Speaker:I think I think if we follow the tradition of vaccines there is it studied for many years and tested for many years to bring the trust. Even now, I think the CDC didn't even certify the vaccine as safe as I might be wrong. They might have changed it, but it didn't. And I think there is many things, right. We don't live in a communist state. Technically, this is the free world, we should have choice, right? choice to say what we want and don't want to do with the limits of flying.
Jerry Malcolm:Let me let you on afford, you know, you know, you know, helicopters hover for a minute in one spot. They don't land but they just hover, I want you to just hover your helicopter just for one brief moment. Okay. Just put in hover mode. Okay. Is there anybody? Is there anybody? Like? Did you hear what he just said? And a lot of people, a lot of people think that a brother, um, let you know, first off, you're in a safe place, nobody's gonna kick you out because of your view. You're in a safe place. So is there Dr. Carr? What do you think about what he just said? Because a lot of people are feeling that.
Unknown Speaker:So again, I think it is. But
Jerry Malcolm:let me add one piece of context to before you go. You see how you see always talking about the military, when we said there's things that the public get from the media that they hear. And then there's things behind the scene that the military is really doing and we're not privileged to? That's what we're starting to hear about the vaccine is one thing with the doctor say that that's what I'm saying this, the streets are saying, Dr. Coleman, I'm just repeating it should grant you
Unknown Speaker:he. So I work back from what he said. He said that the CDC said that the vaccine wasn't safe. That's not only that's not and that's only not true. The CDC does not regulate that. That's an FDA man, not a CDC man. It was. Number Number two, if people want to argue the mandate, as I've always said, you can argue the mandate, the mandate is a political point, right? If you say, Hey, listen, I feel that mandating the vaccine is government overreach, that is your opinion. And you are entitled to that. I mean, you know, as long as we're not talking about the efficacy or safety of the vaccine, I mean, I don't really have anything to say for against that. That's, that's people's political. If they have a right to political discourse. That's fine. I, you know, so I didn't really take offense to anything he said, except for the CDC and versus the FDA. But I think he may have just, you know, misspoke to his credit. So, there you go.
Jerry Malcolm:But But But But what do you think about what do you think about what what the guy is saying? I'm one of the doctors I mean, because what do you think about this? The, the fact that it's coming back, it's coming back, and we're hearing, it's like, for the backs and the non backs? That is coming back? You know, the
Unknown Speaker:back? What do you mean? What do you mean? You said, Jerry, if you could if you could elaborate on that point, okay,
Jerry Malcolm:if you say if you can't COVID January 1, then it goes away. Right goes away, January 10. is gone. You could go on about your business, then a month later, it's like is hitting them? Oh,
Unknown Speaker:you told me that your head up above, right? Yeah, yeah.
Jonathan Bing:Like, coming back at some new symptoms are coming as well.
Unknown Speaker:So So to that point, that I was actually reading a paper, it's actually very interesting paper I hadn't, I hadn't read them before. So I was reading the job and talking about the Russia stuff. Um, they were showing that older people are having, like, most of the issues were like real issues and like, neurological issues, which made sense because COVID is a vascular disease. So, you know, it can actually affect your blood vessels, right. So it doesn't make sense that you can have, like, consequently, like months after you've actually been infected, especially if you're older person, your hypertension, diabetes. 123. So, I mean, it makes sense to me, but to the point that I don't think that has anything to do with vaccine, you know, efficacy against arm across the vaccine is 34 to 50% effective with two doses, you get a third dose, it goes back up and 92%, two months after that, and hovers at like 70%. Right. So you're still getting like, some level of protection is not as good as it was with alpha or delta, but it is some level of protection. So I really don't see the correlation. I think the only thing that people were showing, because I sent in rages over talking. I think one thing that people were showing was that older people, I think it was over the age of 60 or 65. And remember exactly what happened, some issues later on. We're having some issues after all, their initial infection was made sense to me, and I'm sure that's the case.
Grant Cardone:Hey, Jerry, can you ask Dr. copelan, if I can ask him a question directly.
Unknown Speaker:Grant grant, you can ask me a question. As long as you told me with some respect, you can do that. Sure.
Grant Cardone:So I was just in a restaurant here in California, and I'm in Malibu and What's the name of that restaurant? Elena, Lucky's Lucky's Alabama. And the place was filled, every table was taken at lunch. No one was wearing masks where they mandate masks, by the way. And then this gentleman got up to leave. And he put his mask on as he walked through the restaurant and out the front door. Does that does that protect him? He sat in the place for an hour and a half. Then on the way out the door, amongst other people that are not mask, he puts his mask on to leave? Because that's the policy. Does that help him prevent COVID spreading to the world?
Unknown Speaker:From his damn entourage, you and Mike
Jerry Malcolm:No, no, no, no, no, no.
Unknown Speaker:No, no. No credit over from his standpoint of getting infected. Absolutely not zero protection rights he was sitting in there for like you said our unmask from his spreading it to other people outside of that restaurant, maybe. But it's not optimal. No. That's not an optimal situation. Absolutely not. And you're talking to you're talking to a policy point and a political point. Again, I don't debate political points. If you if you are making a political point about those regulations not being enforced and making sense. You have the right to do that. I don't speak to the political points. I mean, that make what you just said, there's not a nonsensical statement. It makes sense. I agree that that's not optimal. And it's probably not protecting them at all, virtually at all, or not very much. So to answer your question is he's probably getting close to zero protection by doing that, the practice of him doing that, but that's a political point. I mean, I don't see it but
Grant Cardone:I was asking you for medical advice on it not political would
Unknown Speaker:I don't give medical advice. I'm not a clinician so you can ask me for scientific clarity. That's about it. I'm not qualified to give you
Jerry Malcolm:you got to get closer to your phone. When I was. I was asking
Grant Cardone:for scientific Claire. Oh, sure. Well, there
Unknown Speaker:you go. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome Mrs. Varner.
Grant Cardone:Today, great to talk to you directly, by the way.
Unknown Speaker:Oh, no, man, you can talk to me directly because you told me that's all.
Grant Cardone:Yeah, I'm with you. And you can talk to me any way you want.
Unknown Speaker:Grant? Nick, come on.
Grant Cardone:You don't have to respect me man. You owe me nothing.
Jonathan Bing:Here we go.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, Romans are no
Unknown Speaker:not not on my positive
Unknown Speaker:day. Let's go Valentine's Day they can.
Jonathan Bing:loving each other today.
Jerry Malcolm:Y'all are sick. Y'all are sick. Okay, so but yeah, so this is, um, what is that va pas is banned on mass mandate.
Grant Cardone:I'm just, it's just crazy to me that like who? Who in their right mind. Can Can Can. Can can think, Okay. I'm gonna sit here for an hour and a half without a mask on with head to be 100 people in that, that 125 people in a restaurant. And on my way out, now, I'm gonna put this mask on. And I'm somehow providing protection for the planet for myself for my family. Like, it doesn't add up.
Unknown Speaker:You get in an Uber?
Grant Cardone:And this is no, no here. Trust me. This guy was not getting an Uber. And it it just goes to show. I think, wow, some of the people that still maintain some level of logic and common sense and analytical thinking are like this, this mandate is ridiculous. And I think that that has been the resistance. It's not just the rollout. It's not the way they advertised. It's not just the misinformation that was given to us. But but for those people that are just analytical looking around saying this, there is no way shape or form that this can possibly prevent the spread of COVID.
Jerry Malcolm:And they're opening the world up right now from that.
Grant Cardone:I posted that.
Jerry Malcolm:One second. One second means I didn't hear you repeat.
Grant Cardone:And that that's why I posted above the Virginia House pass ban on mass mandates and schools. Ryan, if any of you felt that if any of you saw that post on Instagram where the kids went crazy. I don't know how many of you saw that. Kids were informed they wouldn't have to wear masks tomorrow. And the kids went freakin nuts in the room. It was like it was It made me cry watching these five year old six year old kids. That was his real. Yeah made me happy seeing that brought me to tears. Unfortunately, Jonathan doesn't have any emotional left in him. So
Jerry Malcolm:yeah, yeah. Appreciate you for that. Appreciate you. Is there anybody else that would like to jump in? But before you jump in? Can I get about 30 of my friends in this audience on stage 30 of my friends to share this room in the hallway and share it on Twitter? Do some cute cute little social currency on some IG?
Grant Cardone:I'm sharing it right now. Jerry.
Jerry Malcolm:Appreciate you grant. Yeah, if somebody if some of you can just take a moment just to share the room and it's a brand new club. And I want to thank you.
Grant Cardone:Why don't we get how do you hit the Share? Is that that little button down there that says 79? Right there. There's 82 People now. I wonder if we can get that to 100 people?
Jerry Malcolm:Yes. Click that button. Oh, you did that.
Grant Cardone:I see. I see the little button right next to the scissors. Right. Yeah. Corral.
Unknown Speaker:You get there in the hallway,
Jerry Malcolm:or you can share it. Yes, we got it. Miss. We got it. So there's the bottom one says Copy link. Once you click that double arrow, there's gonna be a little white pop up and it says Copy link and it says share via this says sharing clubhouse. So you can share it on your Twitter and your Facebook on messages. And you can share
Grant Cardone:it I said this is a crazy insane room on clubhouse on Twitter. On Twitter, see if we can get Twitter talking about it to man. Let's see.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, we had 97
Grant Cardone:violent you need to get this place angry.
Jerry Malcolm:Because anger sales. Well, Pete was squabbling. They want to hear they want to hear me do this.
Okay, so I rang the bell once today. So I appreciate everybody. We're over 100 Appreciate you. So yeah, once again, y'all put in some Twitter get some Twitter action going. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Grant, Cardone. And yes, is there anybody else that would want to say? Well, I want to say something like that. Once thing I'm gonna go to y'all know how I do it. y'all already know. I heard a female voice. So I gotta go to her first. First of all, what's your name is?
Unknown Speaker:Rosalyn. That's me down at the bottom, down at the bottom,
Jerry Malcolm:Rosalyn? Yeah. If I haven't told you before in your life, I'm gonna tell you right now. Happy Valentine's Day.
Unknown Speaker:Happy Valentine's Day.
Jerry Malcolm:Now, go ahead Roslin.
Unknown Speaker:One thing I noticed amongst the conservatives, because I listened to Ben Shapiro podcast almost every day because I like to hear what they're talking about. Because they and it all goes across all. Like, it's like it's almost like talking points that go across and everybody says
Jerry Malcolm:the words you say it's kind of like the debate the news, like our room kinda, that's what you saying? Say yes. No, yes. No, no, say yes. Yes, if you want our debate, the news is better news podcast, you know, it is Jonathan eyes are better than him. You know, we
Unknown Speaker:are 100% but let me make my point. My point is that one of the things they always complain about, is when they see somebody being illogical, like something like, you know, if you see somebody outside and they wear their mask, or they have their mask on their chin, or they like they take their mask on and anything like that. They see. And they and they especially if they see it in a blue state, they they complain, and and of course we're messy with our masks. But always I always wonder why does it bother them so much? If they see one random person doing something stupid, like jogging outside with a mask with no one else around them? That's the grant.
Grant Cardone:Yeah, because it's insanity. Okay. That's why I'm like, Wow, man. When I see insanity, it worries me, for them. For my family, for my children for the future. It
Unknown Speaker:doesn't worry me at all. Because I think like, I even catch myself, you know, I live in a building. I have to wear my mask going outside. Like, just go from my apartment to the to the outside. And then sometimes I forget, and I leave my mask on as I'm walking outside. Nobody's walking around me. So then that would bother you because it's completely illogical way. It's just something simple where
Grant Cardone:it bother me. For me, it bothers me for those people that have been terrified and are not able to live their life and maybe,
Unknown Speaker:you know, how do you know that? I don't have that
Grant Cardone:you were unconscious? You said you forgot it on your face. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:what's wrong with that? Well, nothing.
Grant Cardone:Nothing, nothing. If you want to be more unconscious, I'm fine with it. Just just so like when I see people driving in a car by themselves. I'm like, Wow, man. The media got to them so hard.
Unknown Speaker:No, they got they just oh, I don't think
Grant Cardone:I'm not sure which I'm not sure which one worries me more. To do or to forget their mascot. That's what do you do
Unknown Speaker:that to some time? And you walk out of your apartment with no pants on?
Grant Cardone:I mean, you forget your credit card.
Unknown Speaker:I forget my wallet. Sometimes I forget all kinds of things. I don't
Grant Cardone:need to get off drugs.
Unknown Speaker:I don't understand why that. To me. That's just a normal part of
Jerry Malcolm:rosin. Ross, I got to say something. He just said to you. He was joking. He just said, You got to get off of drugs. And your reply was I don't understand that's a normal part of life.
Unknown Speaker:He said before that.
Unknown Speaker:Okay. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:I don't. I'm not sure he
Jerry Malcolm:was joking. He was joking with us.
Grant Cardone:If you look, for instance, okay, California to keep mass mandate in schools, as indoor mandates in how does that make sense? I'm perplexed, because
Unknown Speaker:time to pass, and things are changing so fast that things are out of sync. So naturally, as they make a change, that takes a time for it to go to the legislator. And then sometimes the law is out of sync with what's going on in the science
Grant Cardone:for you think that one of the most progressive supposedly, one of the most progressive places on planet Earth are slow to keep up with what's actually on
Unknown Speaker:government is slow. Of course, I think they're slow. And I'm talking about Yeah, of course, you know, something changes and it takes a while for, for them to make the change. And for the change to trickle down, in all the ways it needs to trickle down. For all the changes to go through. That's normal.
Grant Cardone:Not go again. Again, unconsciousness is normal to you, for getting your mask on your face is normal to you. And being slow to respond to change and updates is is normal to you. But it's not normal to some people. And that doesn't mean you're wrong.
Unknown Speaker:But when I hear the talk about it, it is with such a judgement, and even venom. Like that's one of the things
Grant Cardone:you mean the way the way liberals talk about me not wanting to get a jab, Mr.
Unknown Speaker:No, mean the way conservatives talk about, about liberals or people who, you know, that poor guy who just, you know, threw his mask on as he walked out of the restaurant, you know, whatever. There's like this such judgment.
Grant Cardone:No, but I wasn't questioning I was asking a Copeland if that was going to help him I was not judging by the way you're judging me based on my question. I was not judging the guy was
Unknown Speaker:a trend when I'm judging the out of the rest what I really wanted
Jerry Malcolm:rosin rosin, you remix it, you read it, you remix his hit what he said he literally was asking, what's the efficacy and the point? And, and because I'm gonna tell you what I'm what I'm what I'm sensing. And and I think you pick that statement to make a point. And you kind of remix the statement or the question that he asked. And I know you're not doing it probably intentional, I don't know. But because the same way, a pro Vaxxer will come up against someone that doesn't wear a mask or didn't get did I mean, I'm going to say what anti Vaxxer was the pro vaxxers Go probably three times as hard. They go three times as hard. So it's like the non vaxxers just defend themselves. And you got to get more passionate because it's so dominated by all you know, the science supposedly.
Unknown Speaker:So for me, I feel like it's so dominated and these platforms feel so dominated by the anti vaxxers. And by the Conservatives are seem to dominate these platforms, they might and
Grant Cardone:that's crazy, because we're a minority.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, exactly. You don't mean millions of Bharat Roslyn? What do you think? What do you what is your opinion, your view? Because I want to hear this from you. Because I like I like how eloquent you're breaking this down. What is your view? Or your opinion as to why? Pro vaxxers and even some physics some doctors and some scientists go so hard against the people like they're just so dumb, instead of making it more of an education thing? Why do you think they do that they go so hard.
Unknown Speaker:I think they tried the education thing. And now they're frustrated, and they've seen so much death and so much real consequences to the disease, that it makes them go hard. I think their personal experience of witnessing people losing their life senselessly makes them passionate about it, and they and they continue to see it. They've been in this on a different level than we have, even though we I think we all have had losses. Imagine having that every day. But a man makes you go hard.
Jerry Malcolm:I got you but imagine the people who's not vaccinated and and they're looking at how something was rushed and they feel that they don't have enough data and they're being judged because they won't go along with it just because a certain group is People are saying go along with it. So they're being judged because they want a little more safety. It's not that they don't want it. It's just they want more time. Do you think that's rare?
Unknown Speaker:I mean, I know I don't think it's fair because what happens is, is when the doctors when the scientists tell you that it wasn't rushed, and they go through this long explanation to explain how it was not rushed, then
Jerry Malcolm:all over the place. One second, Brian, go ahead, Grant,
Grant Cardone:man, I said that. It was rough. It's called an emergency order for a reason it was rushed. It's not a judgment. And please, please don't share that it wasn't rushed. Because it was in emergency order.
Unknown Speaker:It wasn't I mean, but they
Unknown Speaker:are gonna jump in when she's done please gonna jump in with this. Okay.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, but I you know, I won't say for territory go complete. Yeah. Yes, nothing is his territory. I want to hear from a civilian. Somebody I just wanted, you know, cuz I can tell you're vaccinated. And how many boosters have you had
Unknown Speaker:one booster?
Grant Cardone:Okay, get another one. All right.
Unknown Speaker:I mean, you know, my, I had my regular vaccine, two doses and one booster
Grant Cardone:kit. Let me ask you, if I ran for political office, is there any chance you'd run a vote for me?
Unknown Speaker:Um, no, I know. I mean, yeah.
Grant Cardone:I mean, there's nothing I could say there's nothing I could do to get you to vote for me.
Unknown Speaker:I will never vote for Republicans. No.
Grant Cardone:What if I ran into the Democrat?
Unknown Speaker:Oh, God, I would have to
Grant Cardone:vote for me if I ran as the DEM.
Unknown Speaker:I depends. It might be for the lesser. Let me tell you why. How I choose my vote. I vote for the lesser, the least evil. That's how I vote. So if you don't Why did you say, Okay.
Unknown Speaker:allegedly got the lesser of two evils. Morphe. Right, dead. We're on the verge of war in Ukraine, who got inflation running crazy. You've got people pouring over our borders. So how's that lesser of two evils working for you as a person?
Unknown Speaker:Right? Well, for me, what I see is that they I mean, this is
Jerry Malcolm:very loud. It's very loud. Yeah. Brian, Brian background.
Unknown Speaker:And to me, that's completely out of context, because the world that was delivered to the President and the President is one person is delivered in certain condition. Right, and all the of all these forces coming. So not one president. It depends on what is going on in the world when they become president. And then they remind
Unknown Speaker:me he volunteered for the
Jerry Malcolm:pivot yellow pivot away from what I was talking about. The whole thing is being remixed. I was trying to ask, you know, why is it that the people is not vaccinated get treated the way they do? Because, you know, you were kind of alluding to the rudeness of, of the what we call the anti Vaxxer. So I kind of want to see what people thought about that. Is there Dr. Colin, what do you want to answer?
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I wanted, I wanted to just speak to your question directly, and also to the EUA stuff. So, you know, short, short, so I think she's correct. I know that it's very frustrating for me, for people two years in to continue to say the same same thing over and over and over. And we take our time and try to explain it to him over and over and over, and it doesn't sink in. And then it's not like it doesn't have a consequence. It's not like I'm not seeing the consequences. I'm literally seeing the consequences with my own two eyes. And it's extremely frustrating. It is, I mean, I've never been as frustrated. I was talking to my physician friend of mine, he's over in Arkansas. I've never been in this for free. No, I don't care about this kind of stuff. I just let people do dumb shit, but it's just that I guess, cuz I'm watching in real time. I'm in the middle of it. It's just gonna be
Jerry Malcolm:what can I be? Sure. in a peaceful way. See, I think the disconnect also is when when that keeps being said, when you guys see all the bad things happening to people when you see this, because someone can say there's a lot of things that goes on with certain illnesses and certain things that cigarette smoking, for example, there's no mandate to stop that.
Unknown Speaker:Right. Not true. No, no, no, wrong. That's not true. Oh, no, I know. Jerry, Jerry. Jerry let you finish. Okay, you know what I'm saying? No, no, no, no, no, because no, Jerry, I'm not trying to you obviously. I'm trying to catch up but I'm not sure just like with that still. No,
Jerry Malcolm:you gotta be right there. You got me right there.
Unknown Speaker:I'm just saying there's no like, I understand what you what you're saying. But I'm just saying it in that context. Like I hear what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing that there. Other diseases, especially diseases that affect black people, it's what I'm passionate about diseases that affect black people, obviously. Um, but the point is, is that I think what's being missed is that single cause mortality for for source code to is unique. And even this point we're having right now, right? I've expressed this 100 times. And it just seems like no matter what I say,
Jerry Malcolm:there's one thing you can't get over Dr. copelan. There's just one thing we've never ever, ever, ever been able to get over. And it's seasoning 24 months. You can't get over that, bro, no matter how much you try, you can't get over 24 months, meaning that particular thing for this particular virus has not existed over two years. Well, it will be hard for people Jera Well, here's
Unknown Speaker:what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. Right. And there's a technology shortly. There's my new stance on it. I don't try to convince people anymore. I don't. I just I just I just know, I don't I don't let somebody ask me a question. If you ask me a question. I'll talk to you about it. But like how it was before I don't do anything. I haven't argued in any rooms. And like, you know a little while about this, because I don't know the point is to
Jerry Malcolm:to help the last time, but we don't.
Unknown Speaker:By the way, we're saying no, no, no, I'm not. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm telling you. That if some
Jerry Malcolm:numbers don't lie, ever heard the statement numbers don't lie. Have you ever heard that? Numbers don't lie. I know. But if you go off of numbers don't lie. If you go off of numbers don't lie. It doesn't justify such an aggressive mandate, where people are losing their jobs losing their life insurer or their medical insurance and losing all kinds of benefits. If they don't get the vaccine numbers don't lie. So the we're gonna go ahead, the total people in the population just died from it. You don't I'm saying
Unknown Speaker:so here's what I'm here's what I'll say today. Again, now I got 50 points that I can run down right now. That because that would make that would make that back a disagreement. But I'm not going to do it. Because I don't think it's gonna matter. That's why I'm saying like, literally, it doesn't matter. We just had a point where we're at an impasse, let's say like that.
Jerry Malcolm:No, I'm gonna tell you what, let me tell you.
Grant Cardone:Are you thinking about changing your mind and going to get the vaccine tonight? No, maybe we had an impasse.
Unknown Speaker:We had it? No, no, no, I agree with this one. No, no, no, no, no, I agree. On this 100%. We are at an impasse. It does not make sense for MDS and people to continue to just like beat their head up against the wall and blowing their brains out and shit. It doesn't make any sense by
Unknown Speaker:the conversation Oh,
Grant Cardone:to that point, which is important him and what he said, Okay. 12 years. Now to support you, Dr. Dr. copelan. This isn't scientific, but 12 years ago, when they went California wanted to vaccinate my kids, the doctor wanted to vaccinate my kids and told Elena. Hey, if you don't vaccinate Vax was two kids at that time, 10 years ago. If you don't, if you're not willing to vaccinate the kids, you can't come back to this. You're not welcome to this office, we're like, Okay, well, once you put that on your damn site, so we wouldn't have wasted our time driving over here. So I mean, maybe there's there's a percentage of the population, that we're probably 10 years into an impasse?
Unknown Speaker:I don't know. And again, I actually agree with Rand on this and look
Grant Cardone:at us look at us.
Unknown Speaker:Logical, it's logical. I mean, it's logical. I mean, I can't disagree with it. And that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, I just decided that there's no real point in doing that. And I just focus on other things and you know, entrepreneurial things maybe will help and nonprofit stuff, but I
Jerry Malcolm:don't like Dr. Coltrane, because those that need to hear you heard you, brother. Everything you did was not a waste of time. No, no,
Unknown Speaker:no, brother. I'm not. I'm not not talking about it. I'm just saying that I'm not gonna go.
Grant Cardone:like Tony Robbins, or something trying to put it doesn't matter. It's
Unknown Speaker:to the point where I was saying, Jerry, you have the suicide rate for doctors and nurses has skyrocketed. And this is a level of what people don't understand why it's so frustrating, like, people don't understand. And it's nothing we can tell you to make you understand. We can't make you see it. And it's just an impact. I mean, there's a we can say to you. I cannot explain to you the fact that two weeks ago, I had to literally go to behavioral health because I was fucked up. Because I saw a dude with no hands and feet and I'd be having nightmares about that shit, replaying in my head was bullshit, right? Like, I can't explain that to you. I can't like give you that you have to have
Jerry Malcolm:Dr. COVID. Let me know what you do.
Unknown Speaker:Now imagine now imagine imagine that's just me. I'm a lab rat, right? Like I just frequent the hospital like you know, every now and again when they would have a problem. They want me to do like some PhD. To fix it, imagine MDS and nurses every day. That's the life every day. But hey, Doc, everyday all the time. It's taxing
Grant Cardone:it's time for you suggested Hang on. Jerry, are you suggesting cope that the doctors and nurses are committing suicide? Because Because people don't go get the vaccine?
Unknown Speaker:No, no, no, no, no. When I say when I say the suicide thing, I was talking about the effects of COVID. But that is part of the frustration because I'm gonna answer this question. Oh, no, I'm gonna answer this question fully. But when you ask any MD or nurse in this room right now, you ask any MD or nurse. They are extremely frustrated, because the majority of people in the hospital I'm vaccinated.
Jerry Malcolm:Let me tell you, I gotta say this. I'm not doing I'm not freaking Jerry. I
Unknown Speaker:swear to God, I'm not framing right now. tell you why you are.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, once again, Grant, Dr. Koh, please. Okay, we're just having a good debating. And this is debate, but
Unknown Speaker:I'm telling you, I'm not breaking anything. I'm telling you. I would be like giving up on
Grant Cardone:plastic crap. Come on, man. Okay, all right.
Jerry Malcolm:Let me know what you're doing. What you're doing. Let me do what you're doing that this this masterful, and you may not be intending to do it. You're talking about the results of what happens from these people's catching COVID. There's not having hands. No one's just, you know, discounting that. I agree with you. We're not talking about the people of color. We're talking about the safety of a vaccine. That's what we're talking about. The way you're saying it is we're saying hey, COVID No big deal there and you say that's wrong. Why are you white? When you address that? Here's Dr. Coakley, you don't understand?
Unknown Speaker:I'm talking right now.
Jonathan Bing:You guys are no crazy.
Unknown Speaker:That's not funny. That's not funny, bro.
Grant Cardone:Bro. And yes, not funny.
Unknown Speaker:No, bro. No, no, no, we got to check you right quick. That's funny, bro. But I'm checking you right now. But you need to be a little bit more sensitive with that. Because that's somebody talking about?
Grant Cardone:Me? How many people have lost their feet and their their hands? Because it COVID
Unknown Speaker:A lot. Come on.
Grant Cardone:Stop. You show me.
Unknown Speaker:I'm gonna stop because he cheated on me. So you don't show me where
Grant Cardone:you show me and you you owe the whole room the link to show us where 1000s of people have lost their feet and their hands because a coach
Jonathan Bing:calls home to get the link copy get the link. But guys listen to me. Every time.
Unknown Speaker:I'm not that hard, but it's not.
Jerry Malcolm:Let John speak for one second. But Jonathan before he said to me, let me say there's one thing and
Grant Cardone:you need to stay on point here. And and and because everybody in this room needs to see that link. If people are losing their feet in their hands. Because the COVID I want to know it.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah. And I want to know that one second. One second one second brother, doctor, call me you can grab the reducto. Just so I'm clear. I want to make sure you know what my stance was. I will just really try to keep it on the vaccine, and not about the effects of what happens when you catch COVID Because we're not trusting the vaccine. But you're putting it in a way where you should trust it, because this is what's going to happen if you don't. That's That's my only thing. You know, that still doesn't make someone trust the vaccine because you talking about the effective which
Unknown Speaker:I understand that you're I understand that. And I'm conceding that point because I'm not. Okay.
Jerry Malcolm:I got you I know, you know.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, I'm conceding the point. I'm not arguing with you. And then I was just giving you that side of the frustration because you were talking about the frustration point. And that's the source of the frustration. It is extremely frustrating. And a lot of people are just very frustrated with this. And we are at an impasse. And nothing that is said, will change certain people's mind. And I accept that. I've accepted it. Right, right. Except really, I really want to respond to
Jerry Malcolm:the one second rather, just once a well
Unknown Speaker:as people respond, understand that again, I'm not here to argue with you, bro. I'm not gonna you want to argue I'm not gonna do it. But because that's above me, I'm over at
Grant Cardone:that link, please send me that link.
Unknown Speaker:Grant, hold on a second grant, and
Jerry Malcolm:he's cool that you are a nurse but you still can just wait your turn. I get it. You're a nurse but you can still just It's okay.
Unknown Speaker:Grant. Grant.
Unknown Speaker:Check it back challenge. Grant. I sent you something.
Unknown Speaker:It doesn't matter. I'll send the link but it doesn't matter if I send the link has nothing that I changed. It doesn't matter. It's futile.
Grant Cardone:It doesn't matter what you bring it up if it doesn't matter. Okay, I want to see the rain. And it wouldn't matter to me.
Unknown Speaker:It would not. I guarantee you, it would
Unknown Speaker:just sit up here saying, news and calling yourself.
Unknown Speaker:I'm not. I'm not trying to argue with you, bro.
Jerry Malcolm:Adly was don't do that let him have a mature conversation at this moment.
Unknown Speaker:Look, here's all I'm saying, right? I'm telling you, I can send the link but it's not gonna matter. I will send it but it's not gonna matter, right? sepsis and toxemia when you've been having COVID for two or three months, I'm gonna Catherine flashing her mic, they get sepsis, and you are forced to amputate their hands and feet because they have a buildup of bacteria in their hands and feet. And if you don't, they will die. That is not a debate that happens the diabetic people all the time, that is not a debatable topic, just stand neuropathy from COVID does not mean it does not exist. This is talking about
Jerry Malcolm:Dr. Coleman, can I just say this one more thing, let me just say this, and this is ridiculous. It is I know you're right. And I agree with everything. You're saying, let's make this clear. I grew doctor and this is where I mean, you're at an impasse. For some reason. Whenever I bring up the vaccine, it it veers away into some facts about what happens to some people catch COVID. But I know but but no, no, you can't you have to apologize. Can I do it to you? We're just talking brother. We're good. So here's the thing, what it implies. And if someone's in the audience listening, they're like, Oh, the doctor. So Right. Jerry's tripping Jerry's tripping? No, we're not. Because I'm not talking about long COVID. I'm not talking about people losing legs. I'm talking about something completely separate the vaccine. Why do we get off of that? And we keep talking about?
Unknown Speaker:Jerry, I'm gonna tell you why. Because at first, we were talking about just the source of the frustration because I was not coming into it to kind of debate the efficacy again, I don't debate that anymore. That's why That's why I took it to that place. I was just telling you about the mindset of the clinicians, right? And to Grant's point, Yoshi just just posted something above, it is extremely common, especially in older people, just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Jerry Malcolm:But next time don't post anything Yoshi. Right, next.
Unknown Speaker:So but so, no, no, I mean, I'm gonna say he didn't post it. But the point is, is that the grants point, now you have a link, and I can send you a dozen links, not that it would matter to you because it's not an accept. I mean, bro, look, you said there was 1000s.
Grant Cardone:You said, there's 1000s.
Unknown Speaker:I'm saying, Man, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
Grant Cardone:No, no. Because
Unknown Speaker:it matter to him grant, when he's speaking of his experience and says it matters.
Grant Cardone:I didn't say I didn't say I didn't say it doesn't matter.
Unknown Speaker:It doesn't mean there's no need to listen, Grant, I'm not going to beat you, man. Whatever you say.
Grant Cardone:I'm glad. Hey, it's great that it matters to you. All I'm asking for is the link. This has 1000s I have never ever heard this grant that 1000s 1000s
Unknown Speaker:Grant.
Jerry Malcolm:CC suit. That's why you gotta can't jump in like that, because that's what I'm saying. People we mixed up.
Unknown Speaker:I said, 1000s, you've had almost yet I've had 9000 Plus deaths in the United States, you have had 1000s of cases of sepsis, especially in the older population that already have diabetes and hypertension, and other diseases. And that is a very common, that is the treatment. Unfortunately, it's not awesome. Listen, man. Look, listen, bro. Look. Just because you don't see it. There's a lot of shit you don't see. Okay, there's a lot of shit you don't see. A lot of you don't see that,
Grant Cardone:bro. That's why I was amazed and said, Hey, show me that cuz I'm curious.
Unknown Speaker:I'm curious. You're not curious, bro.
Grant Cardone:Okay, what
Unknown Speaker:are you gonna do? I'm gonna Are you well, I'm
Grant Cardone:not curious
Unknown Speaker:to see grant if I if I show you if I show you the link, it's not going to move the goalposts for
Grant Cardone:you. Didn't think you were trying to move. But I thought you said you weren't trying to convince
Unknown Speaker:them. Why would I do it to prove that I'm right? Because you said
Grant Cardone:it. And if you did it, if I tell somebody I can return. If I can go on mute, continue talking. So if I tell somebody I can return 15% on my real estate, and they say Hey, show me how you've done that. I'm like, bang, bang, bang, I'm gonna show you about 12 times I've done it and exceeded that. I'm not gonna fight you. I'm not gonna try to convince you. I'm gonna do one thing I'm going to show you. So if there's 1000s of people in the United States that have lost their feet and hands. Okay, and I understand this is having a negative impact on you. I don't challenge that. I just challenge because I've never heard that anywhere that 1000s of people were losing their hands and feet because of COVID. Yeah, can
Unknown Speaker:I add on?
Grant Cardone:Can I copelan can't show it to me if somebody else can show it to me. Not a case. I'd love to see.
Jerry Malcolm:I have a personal one second before he said that back channel,
Grant Cardone:man. That's what they call it on clubhouse the back channel.
Jerry Malcolm:Dr. Coleman, I got I got one recommendation one, one suggestion
Grant Cardone:to make recommendations to people let the room go man, just let the room flow.
Jerry Malcolm:I think you know a grant. Hey, moderators. Pay attention to Grant Cardone. Okay. Look, anybody else want to jump in? No, that's right. Jerry,
Unknown Speaker:I want to say something Jerry.
Jerry Malcolm:One second, I wasn't great, Diane, Diane, Diane.
Unknown Speaker:Okay. Um, I want to say something. Um, I understand the article that's up top. But as a nurse, this is not isolated to COVID. And Dr. Catherine, who is a clinician can fade this. I mean, when you have I worked in a medicine unit. And this is something that I'd see in a medicine unit from a person who has diabetes, and who has poor peripheral circulation, or a person who is are poor circulation and neuropathy. diabetic neuropathy just does not have to be COVID, I can understand that there's a clotting, because when you do have people that get septic, and they do not have to get septic, because they had COVID-19. They can be septic from an infection from a pneumonia from different kinds of reasons why they have sepsis, and they might get into shock. And they get into that into the ICU, and they stay long in the ICU, and they do develop clots also. So this is not isolated to COVID-19. I am done speaking here.
Jerry Malcolm:I want to I want to say so Wait, wait, wait, wait. Dr. Katherine, do you want to Dr. Katherine, as a doctor, do you want to say something what she just said? No, I
Unknown Speaker:agree with her. You know, there are many reasons why one might lose a limb. And certainly chronic disease is the most leading cause. But COVID-19 take somebody with a chronic issue, and some people who've never had an issue at all. And all of a sudden, they're having difficulty perfusing their extremities
Jerry Malcolm:is that their correlation is not causation, technically.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, we hear all about how COVID damages the lungs, but it's also damaging all of the blood vessels. For some people, that means they're losing their fingers and toes. Remember, there was a young gentleman, he was in Broadway. And it was very early in the pandemic, he went into multi systems shock, and they kept doing amputations. And then he finally died. He was
Unknown Speaker:30 Somethings name was Nick, I know him.
Unknown Speaker:Thank you, thank you for honoring him by saying his name, there are 1000s of people who have died this way. And at this time in the pandemic, we're just saying these are preventable outcomes. Because if you hear anything except the vaccine diminishes your risk of getting a preventable hospitalization or death doesn't mean 100% But it lowers the risk. So you've seen this happen. Here we are in 2022. It's hard to see because, you know, people are listening to fools telling them stuff. They're not doctors. They're just, I don't know, shock jacks, like Joe Rogan, whatever, you guys can listen to him all you want. But why do you take medical advice from politicians, the Kennedy dude, the, you know, doctors who don't work in hospitals, that is beyond us, it's baffling. And it's hard, we get trauma bond thing, people die, or have these terrible outcomes day after day.
Unknown Speaker:So please let me respond to this type of information. Because I am in the UK, and I'm from Africa. I go there all the time. And when you hear people that comes and says, everybody that has an alternative point of view is a shock jock. It's misinformation. It's the older labels that put towards anybody that's thinking critically. Because what it boils down to is, you end up looking I know, lots of medical professional people that doctors that are general practitioners that have different views to what the practice is forcing them to say, but it can't see it because they would lose their livelihoods. I know people who are exploring other options, but they you they can't legally prescribe some of the medications that they would see because it's not one thing fix. All right, this vaccine there's other People that it might not be the best thing for them, right. But if they don't take it, there's so many things that they lose, I would use an example of Africa because I look at how it's very sad down there. Because I know firsthand what the Ebola did to people and how they will drop, they'll drop and die in a matter of days. And these people are forcing close proximities all the time. If if COVID, in two years down the line was as severe as the SE was, we would have seen it physically, it's not something you wait to hear in the news, and you wait to look at the numbers, you just see it, because this is how real life works. But all these people are forced to take these vaccines. And if people some of them are in the village, some of them have never come in contact with COVID. I wonder what this is going to do to them, right. And I look at people how the way how people from the Western world struggle with things like malaria, it will kill people down here because their immune system is weak, because everything is so sterilized, and they're not. They're not they're not exposed to bacteria, and germs and all these things. So they're built to build a stronger immune system. And you can see how Malaria is a common disease in Africa. These people catch it today and be well the next day. And it isn't, it isn't. It isn't Childsplay. It isn't something nobody take as a joke. And hence the reason why we have to think of these things. But we get these people that I genuinely wonder people like Dr. copelan. And people because they have valid points. It's just that the way there's so strongly opinionated about this one view you think, or they're being paid by somebody else, because what human being will take their free time to force somebody else to take something that they're asking questions about all you can genuinely do I understand how it's being diplomatic in this room right now and trying to be your or I'm not forcing it. But I was in the room yesterday. And there was like mechanical fluff and Bs, as you would say, the minute somebody say something, they hover over him. Just diminished everything the person has said, come up with an alternative view, kick him out, block him, take him out the wood, these people will or they paid to do these things.
Grant Cardone:But you're the shock jock, you're the shock. Information.
Unknown Speaker:Directly, just briefly won't say but a second. Year. Is that cool? Yeah, so yes. Just just what? Yes, one point. So who was that? What was his name? Simon, was it? You still here?
Unknown Speaker:I'm still happy to hear Simon. I'm still happy.
Unknown Speaker:Whoever was just talking. Yep. Yep. So okay. You were talking about malaria in Africa? Do you? Can you think of one reason why individuals and in continental Africa would not die from malaria as opposed to ethnic groups? Can you give me one reason why that might be?
Unknown Speaker:Um, I, I'm not coming from a professional standpoint. I don't know if you're trying to
Unknown Speaker:get okay. Okay, okay. No, no, no. Okay. Excuse me, Grant, Grant. Grant. I'm not even doing it. Come on up. sickle cell trait?
Unknown Speaker:Oh, yes. sickle cell trait.
Unknown Speaker:Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. sickle cell trait protects individuals from malaria. That's what it's for. Right. So for just that one statement that you just said, If you give me 10 minutes, I'll go through point by point and explain why like 90% of stuff you just said is unfounded and incorrect. But it's not going to matter. Jerry, that's what I'm talking about. I could do that. Dr. copelan. Well, I can do that. Prevent you? Did I interrupt you one time? I let you talk. Right.
Grant Cardone:So I'm gonna try to convince anybody to grant your grants your MO man
Unknown Speaker:you tried to speak cutting me off capping trying to land the plane, and I can't do it, because you keep
Grant Cardone:running your mouth cap thing. Oh, blin.
Unknown Speaker:So like I was saying, we could do that. But what would it solve? Nothing. It doesn't matter. This this is this is why it doesn't it's futile. It's no point. We are at an impasse. I accepted. A lot of other conditions have accepted it. If people want to help, that's fine. We'll tell them but other than that, we're not going to just break it down and it doesn't matter. It's pointless. Doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.
Unknown Speaker:Please, can you now speak about the vaccine because I noticed
Unknown Speaker:it doesn't matter. You don't you're not going to listen. But it doesn't matter.
Unknown Speaker:I get to listen and you you have professional views but we have different opinions and I would like you to tell us about the vaccines. Is it true or is it not? No.
Unknown Speaker:I mean, people thank you. You can you can say whatever you want. I accept whatever Is that you have to say, as reality accepted.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, I think I think that's the cheap way up does not.
Unknown Speaker:It's the only way that there is because it's futile. There's no point.
Unknown Speaker:So you're not you're not gonna defend the vaccine? Is that what you're saying?
Unknown Speaker:There is no. Why would I do that?
Unknown Speaker:For weeks for months,
Unknown Speaker:and what does it solve? No. So it could No, no, I'm asking the question. I'm asking a question, hopefully and hasn't solved nothing. Let
Grant Cardone:me ask you a question. Right. This is straight up. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. cope. Do you think I should go get the vaccine at this point?
Unknown Speaker:Grant? What did I just say?
Grant Cardone:I'm asking you,
Unknown Speaker:you are not asking me a question to get an answer. It doesn't matter, Grant.
Grant Cardone:No, I'm curious. I'm curious as to how you would answer that. Here. We are two years
Unknown Speaker:later, was not your physician, you should ask your physician. I? I don't have 10. Then ask yourself.
Grant Cardone:Okay. I'm not asking you he was he wasn't calling people. I'm asking Copeland use. Copeland we're two years, two and a half years into this event. It looks like things are starting to go away. Grant Cardone has gone two and a half years without it. My kids haven't gotten it. My wife hadn't gotten it. Would you suggest at this point, I go out and get it. Grant? I'm just asking
Unknown Speaker:you to leave? Yeah,
Grant Cardone:it's a simple question.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, hold on. I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm trying to address you. Right. Okay. Okay. I hope that you live forever, man.
Grant Cardone:I really do. Thank you, man.
Unknown Speaker:That's the answer.
Grant Cardone:Thank you, bro. Thank you, man. And the only way I can do that is through my work. So and through making friendships and relationships and being in rooms like this. And cope. I'm glad you're in this room, man. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to have these these conversations.
Jonathan Bing:It doesn't grant don't get ready. Don't get it.
Unknown Speaker:Chevy, may I please speak? Yes. Yes, you may. My name is Cass. And I was responding to what Dr. Copeland said about individually been amputated. I had a friend of mine. She's also an attorney practicing walking around doing cases. And she got COVID. And she was hospitalized and she had her left leg amputated. And she had no prior issues prior to that. I'm done speaking.
Jerry Malcolm:I didn't hear the last part. You said you said you said she caught COVID She she
Unknown Speaker:COVID She had no price issues prior to that. And she had her left leg amputated
Jerry Malcolm:because of COVID. Yes, sir. Well, just so you know that I don't think nobody's debating that, of course, things like that happen. But um, you know, like I said, I wasn't speaking about the effects of what's going on with COVID. I was talking about the vaccine in itself. It's so for some reason we keep going back to you know, what,
Unknown Speaker:if the vaccine had observable effect, she was vaccinated. Oh, wait, wait. They still got amputated? Wow.
Jerry Malcolm:Somebody's got to meet him. I mean,
Grant Cardone:what can we does anybody know about this term? This new term on clubhouse called Doxxing?
Jerry Malcolm:Never heard of it.
Jonathan Bing:Yeah, that that that's pretty much where people were getting people kicked off our talents or something like that? Yep. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker:Like all your Doxxing is when you put out people's personal information from me back here or YouTube or anywhere. And that's what Doxxing is, which is for the most part illegal.
Grant Cardone:But but but but it's with malicious intent to damage.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, exactly. Right. But it's
Unknown Speaker:to do with club pass particularly. Yeah, you're
Grant Cardone:right. Yeah. Anywhere in person. But somebody suggestion that if if Copeland's not in this room, and I say something about him, that that's Doxxing and I want everybody know that that is not Doxxing because it means you would have to be in here maliciously, with a malicious intent, speaking negatively about someone. Yeah. And there's been a couple of people that have been kicked off a clubhouse because of Doxxing. But it was it was malicious intent to damage a person without
Unknown Speaker:Meishan about him, which is what not
Jonathan Bing:Well, that's let's give me one second. I get what you're doing. You encode a different kind of relationship, you know, but because you're Grant Cardone, okay. And people see you as Grant Cardone, they see that your voice has weight, and your voice carries, I guess a certain bit of authority and you have a just idiots, that that are like, Oh, I'm gonna, you know, because grant cardones said this guy, I'm gonna go and do you know, whatever, you know, I'm gonna go harass code and I'm gonna do this. That's probably what they're referencing, but they don't understand that you in Copeland do it all the time. And then you guys back at it the following day, and two days later, whatever. That's just what Dr. copelan Grant Cardone does.
Jerry Malcolm:And one thing I didn't realize that grant and Dr. copelan are actually spending Valentine's day together. So yeah, that's, that's
Jonathan Bing:Jerry holding, right.
Jerry Malcolm:So once again, I want to welcome everybody to debate the news. We appreciate all of you so much more than you know, the club is growing, and it's because of all of you follow the club. Follow me I need to follow so I can catch up to Jonathan's numbers. Follow Mr. Jonathan Bing. And I want to thank all these incredible moderators. And I want to give a special thanks for Dr. copelan. For coming in here. You're a trooper Dr. Koechlin. You're serious Trooper appreciate you my brother. Special thanks to Dr. Katherine. Are you other doctors? And special thanks for to the art remise. We call it rival Mr. Grant Cardone. Thank you, Tara, thank all of you. And I don't know quantum was somewhere in house our earlier. Thank you to Quanah to everybody else. So anybody else want to jump in on this topic? Let's keep this going. question for Dr.
Unknown Speaker:Kaplan. This is ice. Go ahead, ice. So Donna got her grant and cola kind of go back and forth. So I'm going to ask you at this stage, does it make sense to still go out and get vaccinated?
Unknown Speaker:Can I answer the question? So thank you, walk me I mean, if you want to reduce your risk of having severe COVID-19 That is what the vaccine is for. And I would do that to protect yourself. It is also the more people that have immune protection either by being naturally infected and vaccinated. That is how we get from pandemic to endemic because the virus will try to keep infecting one person to another. But if you have the antibodies and you have immune protection, the virus gets shut down faster. So over time, that's what it's going to take. We're getting there. But now, it's by people getting naturally infected that comes with risk. We have over 2500 people dying every day now. I think since 2022. Started, that's a lot of deaths, you know, that most of those people are
Grant Cardone:unvaccinated. So Dr. Kapur, I have
Unknown Speaker:a follow up question for you. So are we still use me
Grant Cardone:if I have the cold bodies, you would you would suggest I do not need to go get the vaccine,
Unknown Speaker:I would suggest that you have more immune protection. Like if you've had not just one round of COVID-19, that we're finding that the body probably needs to have a good like three brochures. And for those who've had COVID multiple times, it's more common that your subsequent infection with COVID-19. Unless you get a really nasty variant like delta, it tends to be a more minor infection because your immune system has been primed. It created those antibodies. And so you should have some resilience that stacks up for when you're
Jerry Malcolm:so we're trying to we're trying to kind of
Unknown Speaker:follow up, are we what is the variant that we're seeing most commonly right now, Dr. Katherine?
Unknown Speaker:So it's been only Chrome for some time, and we expect that it's going to be now this sub variant? It's like B one or b two. Even more contentious? I know, right? So we expect there are going to be different variants. That's what viruses do. They kind of select to become more contagious. The hope is that we don't get a variant that's more contagious and nasty, kind of like what we saw with delta.
Jerry Malcolm:So Dr. Catherine, since since the virus keeps mutating and changing, when they initially did the first vaccine, I'm sure they tested it for the virus that was present at that time. How do you know the true efficacy of it? And the safety with these new variants does come in? I mean, cuz you need new studies for that.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, that's a great question. And those are the studies that actually keep getting published. And that's where we you hear that the vaccine is losing that, you know, initially, we had like almost 95 90% protection. Now being vaccinated. Your protection is lower, it's not zero. It's better than 50 but it's not.
Jerry Malcolm:I'm glad you answered that like that. I appreciate that. Because that was one of my biggest concerns too. And it seems like since so many people are catching COVID. To me, it seems like it's because of we're turning the corner because so many people been infected and natural immunity is kicking in. It seems like that has a lot to do with it also others Just a vaccine, I could be wrong, but I'm not a doctor.
Unknown Speaker:I tell my patients who are vaccinated and they get a breakthrough infection, that's effectively their booster, you know, and if you haven't been vaccinated and you've had multiple infections, you're getting a boost to that immune protection you earned from your last infection. But what we're missing here is the people who are immune compromised. You know, these are cancer patients or transplant patients, people who have diseases where they're taking medications that impact their immune system, they don't get to just ride, you know, having that strong immune resilience that we earn by vaccination or infection, they're vulnerable and that's where we see people losing their lives even if they've been vaccinated. Right and so that's how we're trying to keep the virus from spreading so much so we can protect the most vulnerable is that
Unknown Speaker:green like 7 million
Unknown Speaker:right treatments? Shot would you say to God he said treatments is shown Oh, yeah, I was saying that sound like you know, a virus you treat virus shots damn booster shots out of the booster shots them sound like treatments. They don't sound like sending
Unknown Speaker:the part. That part.
Jerry Malcolm:What does that part mean? It means it sounds people hear somebody say somebody just repeated Of course, I know. That's what intended to me. But that part really means something else. But But anyway, thank you for that. My brother. Yeah, somebody said they want to speak on it. What's your name, bro? Cam. Okay, so is there a lady to want to jumps in? Because the guy
Unknown Speaker:I'm, I'm just curious about the conversation if we're talking if like we're all familiar with the power of the mind. Like we have we tapped into thinking about how we can change the mike or Michael biologies with understanding how that
Jerry Malcolm:correlates. We want to even take us to thinking Grow Rich, that's where you trying to take us right now? No, not
Unknown Speaker:at all. I don't want to have that classic. But like we were talking about vaccinations, like this is a whole this is a whole nother aspect of it if we want to focus on the medical but what
Jerry Malcolm:are you training your dog right now? mute your mic, bro. Dr. Katherine. Floor. No, Ollie, please. Oh my goodness. Go ahead. Ellie was gonna pop up. Ali's always popping up. Boy, you can't hear you black. Gray, bro.
Unknown Speaker:Thanks. Appreciate it. Mike. This is Derek. Appreciate you guys give me some time to talk. I got a question for Dr. Katherine. Um, they talking about I see the title of the room. It says it's COVID symptoms occur? After you had COVID. A week or two after? Is that being classified as long COVID? Or is that something?
Jerry Malcolm:No, bro, that's not long. COVID? Gosh, go ahead. Dr. Catherine, if you can give them a short version answer to that
Unknown Speaker:question. The last time I saw the definition, a long COVID Your symptoms had to persist. It was like six or eight weeks post the onset of your first symptom or your first positive test. Whereas what this article is referencing is that people who were recovered, they were showing up and seeking medical care for new diagnoses. And that was like one out of three people about who we we usually you get sick, if you know, we don't see anything in the first couple weeks after you've been sick, we think you're fully recovered. This virus seems to be having some latent defects, which is kind of like when you get shingles after you've had chickenpox, it comes back later. To get you in this case, we're seeing people have blood vessel issues, change and vascular issues. And that's not very much a surprise because we see that with acute COVID. And we actually see this signal in children that's called M is C. So but this data was kind of a big deal, because we didn't realize just how common it was. And this is part of when people are saying, you know, what are the long term effects of a vaccine, you don't get long term effects because vaccines stimulate your immune system, just like a bee sting is going to make you break out into a hive. You're not going to break out into hives later in life just because you got vaccinated, the immune response is brief. But when you get a virus like this, the virus can stay inside and cause damage that continues to perpetuate depending on other factors,
Jerry Malcolm:doctor or scientist, either Dr. copelan Or is that is that an absolute that that viral vaccines can't later occur later years later that something can be traced back to maybe a vaccine injury if you may, I mean, is that an absolute because I think I've heard something just the just the opposite of that that you years later, there's many things they found been traced back to vaccines. But I don't I don't know am I am I offered that? Dr. copelan?
Unknown Speaker:Yes, eight weeks, eight weeks is usually the latest we see anything. But you know that those are speculative things. People were walking around saying vaccines caused autism and they caused other neurodegenerative diseases or they have mercury and that caused problems. Those have been debunked, but they've been told so many times that people believe it.
Unknown Speaker:Right away. You are Dr. Katherine to some processes that get activated right.
Unknown Speaker:That's adoption.
Jerry Malcolm:is crazy. I'm gonna go ahead. The grid Ali.
Unknown Speaker:Did you hear my question? Dr. Catherine?
Jerry Malcolm:Happy Valentine's Day to?
Unknown Speaker:Yes. Happy Valentine's Day, Ellie. No, can you restate your question?
Jerry Malcolm:No, no, wait, wait, wait before she asks you. Does anybody disagree with the doctor though? Does anybody disagree? Does anybody have any? Or does it just work like that? If anybody says something they feel that was vaccine injury related. They're automatically just wrong. That's how it is in in the community. The Scientific Committee introduction to the market of bees, Jesus Christ kala.
Unknown Speaker:Wow, okay. 13.
Unknown Speaker:Type. Dr. Catherine, let what I said is this. Dr. Catherine, is I thought I heard you say in this stage somewhere before that, like, there's basically when I mean, you spoke to a little little more subtle way just now. But a more kind of overt way to to point out the past was you said that the vaccine can or the infection can activate something that's like, you know, if you've already got something wrong, then it's gonna happen faster. Or it could, didn't you say that? I did. But it can be like a catalyst for
Jerry Malcolm:letter Ansanelli letter answerde le,
Unknown Speaker:so it tends to affect the blood vessels in the blood vessels is where many of us carry inflammation, clots, cholesterol issues. And so it's kind of like a stress test for whatever isn't going well, in your system, you get hacked by a virus like this, and it is going to expose, because you're not getting good blood flow to all your tissue, it might potentially ate what has been yet to be diagnosed for you. And that's one reason, you know, this study is showing what it did many people, maybe they have pre diabetes, but then they get the virus and it moves on to full diabetes, or something like
Jerry Malcolm:that, or whatever about they didn't get the virus, but they they had prediabetes, and they got the vaccine, that's what she's saying, as the vaccine sped any other conditions, or a vaccine? Well, vaccines,
Unknown Speaker:they do cause an immune reaction. And for some people who are immune sensitive, they might get a flare up of something too. So if they have, you know, an inflammatory issue, and that vaccine causes a very reactive genic reaction, then they might get a flare. So let's say you have rheumatoid arthritis, or gout or something, and maybe your immune system gets a little primed. That's possible. It's theoretical. And that's where we look at the data. And usually those reactions are going to happen a few days to a few weeks afterwards.
Jerry Malcolm:So COVID-19 is considered a strong virus, like delta, you would say, is definitely a strong virus, right?
Unknown Speaker:I call it a doozy. It's a very concerning virus and it humbles us, not just with a cute presentation.
Jerry Malcolm:So basically, the answer is yes, it's a very strong virus. That's, that's the answer is yes, it's a very strong virus. And the reason why I said that, because I think it takes a very strong vaccine to to help a very strong virus. And that's my concern with the vaccine is a very strong vaccine. And it's been put on market a little too soon. That's just my position. That's just my position.
Unknown Speaker:That's illogical. But I understand.
Jerry Malcolm:How's it going logical,
Unknown Speaker:because it's the virus that's the threat in your immune system. You should trust that when you get a vaccine, it will do what the vaccine prompts that to do that is to make the antibodies to protect you from this nasty pathogen.
Unknown Speaker:And is it true that 10% of all cancers come from a virus busy Doctor noted that?
Jerry Malcolm:Who asked that question.
Unknown Speaker:Okay, I'm going to be quiet for a while after this. I'm
Unknown Speaker:going to kill cancer cells, our immune system.
Jerry Malcolm:We're gonna pivot away from that Dr. Dr. Scott, if anybody else want go ahead, Scott.
Unknown Speaker:I'm so quick backstory. July 1, my dad covered a big event in Vegas July 5. He went to the doctor tested positive for COVID on the 60, went to the hospital, and was admitted and was on a ventilator two days later. Now I bring that up because one of the things that they pushed on us in Him, we wanted to try the monoclonal antibodies. But this was back in July VHS. So controversy all the hospitals, and they wanted him on remdesivir. So one thing I brought bring that up for is going back to the delay game PT. When he went on the ventilator, that was one of the main things, they kept saying that was a good possibility of happening because his kidneys were shutting down. And, you know, they said that was because of the medicine. And at any rate, he was supposed to have his legs amputated, but he ended up passing before but I say all that with a couple questions. And I'm kind of thinking of them as I'm talking about this. I've never really shared it. But as far as remdesivir I'm starting to hear more and more situations, like, you know, he was he did have underlying conditions as far as being overweight, you know, not crazy, but just, you know, so with that going being said him being 76 I guess I'm kind of losing my train of thought on my question, but have you heard anything about remdesivir? Doing anything, and it being associated with? I don't know, I don't really have any questions. Just, if any perspective on that, um,
Jonathan Bing:my condolences. First of all, I want to offer you my condolences. And, and that's desperately sad, but
Unknown Speaker:I got to offer
Jonathan Bing:you something on desert rare, isn't it if I left my
Jerry Malcolm:matrix, Jonathan matrix in the matrix brother. Okay. Dr. Catherine, did you catch? Were you able to,
Unknown Speaker:I'm so sorry to hear about your father and may his memory be eternal. With respect to remdesivir. At the time that your father was hospitalized, it was being used only for inpatients. People who were hospitalized and criteria for becoming an inpatient means that you were requiring oxygen that you had low blood pressure, mental status changes or accomplished and or a complication, like a blood clot to the longer other pulmonary vascular cerebral complications. So that puts you in a high risk category. The monoclonal antibodies at that time were only authorized for people who met criteria to be outpatients. And the goal of the monoclonal antibodies was to keep people from a higher chance of having to be hospitalized for I suspect, that's why your father didn't receive the monoclonal antibodies, but did receive the remdesivir.
Unknown Speaker:We tried that first. And then he got admitted. And then a couple days later, like he literally tested positive on a Tuesday, the following Sunday was on the ventilator. So everything happened fast. Like we tried the monoclonal antibodies on Thursday, Saturday, they game remdesivir. And then he kind of agreed to go on the ventilator from there. I mean, I can't, you know, ever question somebody's decision to do that, you know, when your body gives up, and he just kind of thought that, you know, if he could get some energy back and help, you know, he could do anything but cough. So at any rate, I've just here, I just reading more and more stuff about remdesivir. My wife, she's, you know, she was telling the doctors from the beginning that she's, I guess, more anti Vaxxer, whatever you want to call. I don't really, I just, I don't know. That's all I have. I appreciate it.
Jerry Malcolm:Thank you. I'm sorry. No, you're okay, brother.
Jonathan Bing:Thank you for sharing. That. That's thank you for sharing.
Jerry Malcolm:Your Thank you, Scott. You know, condolences to your dad, also for me. Thank you for that, Scott. And if you ever want to jump back in, just let me know. And I'll put you back in. Yeah, no problem. Jonathan, I'm going to I'm going to pivot away from that for for equipment. I want to ask you something about that. Trump situation is going on. Jonathan,
Jonathan Bing:absolutely. Jerry Trump guys that his accountant. His accounting firm actually quit they they stopped doing business with him. And they, they and they said that they retract his financial statements, and they said that his financial statements are no longer reliable, which means that he's gonna have to turn the contract x returns and have this thing review. Guys, this is huge. I don't know if you guys understand how huge this is, when, when your accounting firm, pretty much cut ties if you okay, and then say that your financial statements for the last 10 years, they can't back them any longer. That means that the that the attorney general is getting close, and everyone is now in cya mode. So what do you guys? What are your thoughts on that? The accounting firm no longer backs Trump's financial statements. And they said that, uh, that they no longer are, they're no longer doing business with him. So they are
Unknown Speaker:a little, it sounds a little bit like, we've kind of some of this before and I'm gonna have to stay, I'm gonna have to stay real skeptical before we can pull that there's anything that's really going to happen. This is
Jonathan Bing:you give me real skeptical, you real skeptical, but but someone doesn't as an accounting firm. If I have a president or former president of the United States, okay as my client. Okay, that means business, more business for me. All right. So who does the President's tax return? We do the President's tax returns, okay, for that accounting firm to say we're cutting ties with that President. Okay, because you want high profile clients? Okay. Because that, typically, people want to go and say, Oh, the President, if they can do the President's taxes, they can handle mine. Okay, for them to say that we no longer want your business. Okay, and that they can no longer back? His financials, his financial statements. Okay. For the past 10 years. That's huge. Okay, push Oh, when you when you said you're going to be skeptical about that, those are two, those are two huge acts, cutting ties. Okay, and no longer backing. Tara, what are your thoughts on this? Tara? What do you Well,
Unknown Speaker:okay, so first of all, countless generally give a statement saying that the the tax returns were prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, and that they stand by them, except to the extent they were given inaccurate information. So what they're really saying right now, it's sort of a cover your ass is whoops, we now know, we've been told we've been given details and indicate that he lied to us. Now, whether that's true whether they knew my suspicion is they must have had some suspicion before. They're trying to say, hey, it's bad enough, that we now have to step back and say we couldn't possibly have known about this stuff. Okay. So they are trying to disassociate themselves from what apparently are fraudulent tax returns, the issue that Mohammed was raising, I think is a different one, potentially, which is whether Trump will actually be charged for this. And I actually, I have to be honest, I don't think he will be. Because I think tax fraud is generally not, you know, sure, Al Capone went to jail for tax fraud, we all know these things. But, you know, it's a really, it's dicey to to indict him on that he's obviously going to claim, you know, this is a selective prosecution, etc. I, they'd have to have something really big. So let's just see what happens. But I am somewhat skeptical. I also think he's gonna He's such a master of delay, that he will claim he can't get a fair trial anywhere in the country. And that also might have some validity. I'm not sure anybody is neutral on the issue of Donald Trump, but I to be determined, I guess, is what I think.
Unknown Speaker:Yeah, not, Jonathan, just to say, just to clarify, I think that, you know, there's like 150 million ways for somebody that has a lot of money and influence to get out of that situation. So I'm gonna be real skeptical for a while.
Jonathan Bing:I'm not saying that he's gonna be prosecuted, but I think I think the Pirate Bay will move forward with something. Because at this point in time, they've done their due diligence, okay. And the, and it's gonna come from New York than New York ad is doing and they're doing what they're doing. And then you have the federal that he's no longer in charge of the Federal Department of Justice. And so and to be honest, that you whether it's, whether it's a hit job was not a hit job, he actually did something, but even if it's that get leverage over him, okay. They will be able to get that leverage over him. But it's this is actually huge news. And then he coupled with the fact that Rudy Giuliani has agreed to testify in Congress can be called cooperate fully with the, I guess, January six, investigation as well as McDonald. I mean, McConnell, actually challenging him and the midterms and not backing this candidate. So there's a lot that's going on that that has to be, I guess, meted out, but things aren't going the way that he's accustomed to them going
Unknown Speaker:I think this is covering up the Hillary drama, to be honest.
Jonathan Bing:What the hell does Hillary had to do with
Unknown Speaker:what Hillary drama we talked about? That was not wait, what's going on with Hillary right now? Yeah, we're just talking about but I'd love to hear what she thinks she's talking about you. Is it up? Tara? No. Who is this? Yo, if
Unknown Speaker:you're gonna talk about is to get chest out to you. Who is it? Who is this saying this? Hello.
Unknown Speaker:Just another Trumper to be Yeah,
Unknown Speaker:Debbie? Oh, see, Debbie. It's interesting, because I've actually read all the filings that I think you're talking about, and there really isn't much there. But I'd love to know what you think is yes, you know exactly what I'm talking about, which is no, no, I know. Because I doubt you actually read the filing that durum, I guess is what you're talking about. You probably did or if that's all I'm saying? Yeah. And there's nothing. Okay. Did you read it? Did you read it? Come on, you know the answer to that? Of course, the answer is? Of course not. I don't know why. By the way, that was only in the New York Post and national, a couple of other conservative newspapers.
Unknown Speaker:Calm down.
Unknown Speaker:No, no, you're a you're 100%. Right. And so this this is just it's maddening because both of these things could, in fact be true. Right? Let's let's just assume, I think that the bag of shed is coming from the New York Post, but we don't know. That doesn't deflect from what Trump's accounting firm did to him today has no bearing on that it has zero bearing. So we can we can say, let's go get Hillary that's fine. I am not here to say don't try to figure out what the truth is. I'm very concerned and want to know the truth on everything that I am able to find out. But just because I want to find out the truth about Donald the piece of shit Trump and Hillary the pain in the ass Clinton doesn't mean one or the other is more important they're both important just because we're looking into one doesn't mean we shouldn't look into the other and I knew this was gonna happen I was waiting for the first person to have the What about bulls yet? It's amazing to me Yeah, amazing.
Unknown Speaker:Same here same here bro.
Jonathan Bing:I for a person that said something about being a New York Times. I put a conservative people out there at Wall Street Journal is about conservative as they come. So you have now see the Wall Street Journal saying the same thing. This is actually big breaking news.
Unknown Speaker:Oh, no, no, no, Jonathan, we were talking about the New York Post is the article about Hillary in the gotcha sometimes. Yeah.
Jerry Malcolm:What's the guy's what's the guy's name is speaking. Just remember soccer movie for the future? Yeah. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker:Even to Alaska.
Unknown Speaker:Yes, ma'am.
Unknown Speaker:Sit because in Alaska, Jerry, I was just asking.
Unknown Speaker:I don't live in Alaska. I'm on Washington. Yeah.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, just want to jump. Right. Anybody else want to jump in on this topic?
Unknown Speaker:Well, Jerry, I just wanted it. You know, you're, you're a seeker of Truth as well, right. And we all get so politicized in some of the nonsense that it's so frustrating. I think for that, you know what I consider myself relatively level headed. I'm just looking for the truth talk to
Jerry Malcolm:appreciate you're sick. I'm gonna help you find a truth. But I'm gonna help you find it tomorrow. So I want to thank everybody for coming out to debate the news.
Jonathan Bing:That was go
Jerry Malcolm:just being a it's Valentine's Days Ladies Night is the ladies day. So Happy Valentine's Day once again to all these incredible people. And I want to thank the moderators, especially the ones that participate with us when we come on to actually join the conversation and helps out appreciate all of you and I even appreciate the ones that you're still on stage and just look cute, because y'all make the stage look cute. But I want to say this real quick. Well, let me think the doc Okay, who's that? Who is it okay, I want to I want your timing Just don't be good time. I don't know who that was. But I want to share where was I? I want to thank all the doctors. Thank you, Dr. Katherine. Thank you Dr. copelan. So Dr. Cogan we good today right? We good today. Right? I didn't do anything is gonna get me in trouble, right?
Unknown Speaker:You do Dr. Kokura. Everything's cool.
Jerry Malcolm:I know I'm not I'm not. I'm not even referring to you. It's an inside joke. Right? It is. Yeah. So so thank you. Thank you, Dr. Catherine. Thank you, Tara. Thank you, Mohammed. Thank you, everybody else that participated in the conversation. And I want to thank all the incredible people that didn't come to the stage. I'm going to ask you guys to please follow the club because I want you all to come up. I don't understand. Understand. overstand which one, you're using your day to day life? Why y'all don't come to the stage? Because I would love to hear from some new blood from some new individuals. So please, next time, come to the stage. Thank you, Yvonne. You was nice and hot earlier. Thank you, Dr. Nadia, Diane, thank all of you. And special shout out to my man, Mr. Jonathan Bing. Make sure y'all follow Jonathan. Put the bell on. So you get the notification when he's doing one of his incredible real estate rooms in the morning. Or when he's debating the news up here with me. And once again, damn, Jonathan was about to say is there anything you want to add onto for land especially thank you
Jonathan Bing:now guys, we we appreciate you guys coming out with us every weekday to debate the news. We're looking forward to doing this for quite a long time with you guys man. And without you guys it wouldn't be a show so back to you Jerry.
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, without you guys. Okay, let me get dramatic for a second without you guys we would be living in a little lost lost without all of you so once again I want to thank you and if you haven't done so already, make sure you follow the club what is the club is that little greenhouse at the top that says debate the news is right above where it says Russia prepares all you got to do is click on that click and Jonathan Bing follow all of our clubs follow the mortgage syndicate. debate the news follow seventh round follow talking shit club and follow the mortgage syndicate for those who don't know we do debate the news five days a week two to 8pm Pacific Standard Time to eight oh my god I'm sorry Jonathan. I haven't eaten yet brother. Two to five Pacific Standard Time. Five to eight Eastern times. You touch yourself when you see me this is a guy named Robert thing. Robin Thicke, th IC K E and the name of the song the name of songs called lost without you stay warm and get out of the cold and the reason why I play this song when I land is we call up the people that don't have a green badge because on the stage and in the audience if y'all income we will be so that was a that was kind of wait right yeah, I mean plan that y'all on the planet
to know that I got this little stereo booster y'all got good that sound I got a stereo boost sound baby debut perfect shape. They do is a perfect way
I want to dedicate this song to all the beautiful ladies out there all the moms and nieces once again the daughters, whoever y'all are. Happy Valentine's Day. And to the ones that don't have a Valentine's Guess what? debate the news was your Valentine's Day today. So thank you, everybody. I am going to do a whole lot. Okay, air traffic control just told me we were clear for landing. Once again, we got slight problem. Yeah. We're not gonna land in the airport today. We have to land some grass. It's gonna be a very, very rough landing. I'm not gonna do that day stopped out here, my angel. I'm not doing that today Jonathan said, Jerry, Do I have your permission to tell them thank you in a different way? Let's do it. Can I just can I just can I just really just say to y'all one more time. And this time, Dr. copelan. You heard grant say it early. And I'm gonna say it all so I'm gonna say it again. We really appreciate you doctors coming in Dr. copelan. Dr. Kaplan, all you doctors, because if you guys did not come in, we would not be able to have this conversation. And one thing I like about you Dr. Coleman, you you understand passion conversation. And you
Jonathan Bing:love Dr. Phil doctor.
He brings it not Not, not in the sense that they use it but
Jerry Malcolm:Dr. COVID is undefeated. He tells people all the time Dr. Kogan be slaying all y'all. He only got one arch rival he cannot sly My name is Jerry Malcolm Dr. Colby Have you ever seen a movie called unbreakable with Bruce Willis and Samuel Jackson? Okay, your your your Samuel Jackson. I'm Bruce Willis. Too much my head does stop us. We got our man Bobby on the stage. It's just a matter of time before Bobby start unleashing the bars and you guys Bobby. I think Bobby's just as knowledgeable. All this stuff is Mr. Jonathan Bing. Welcome to the show Mr. Bobby. Bobby doesn't speak Jerry. Oh, yes he does. Jerry. Yay How am I celebrating today? Well, Grant said that I'm a great guy. Branson, Grant, Grant grant, every, you know, I need that admiration grant. Keep going. Keep going. I need that. So grant, what are you gonna do you man? I'm giving it to you. Grant, what are you doing with the Missis cardones on Valentine's Day? What are you going to do with your wife? We
Grant Cardone:get ready. First of all, we were at my house in Malibu. today. We're doing some work on it. She asked me you know, she's like, I want that done. And then does it whatever you want done. I'll give it to you. Happy Valentine's.
Jerry Malcolm:Oh, that's awesome. Did you
Grant Cardone:go stay in and cuddle? After a hard day at work? We're gonna cuddle. Maybe watch a movie? I think I think they got a new release on HBO. The Jerry and Jonathan show. Hey, there you go. Oh, it's
Jonathan Bing:coming to read trust me man. We apply now. Wait a rock.
Jerry Malcolm:And grant you know what you just because you've been?
Grant Cardone:I'll make a cameo appearance.
Jonathan Bing:Yeah, we're not gonna forget about your grant. We're not gonna forget about the little people
Grant Cardone:know great about me man. When you guys hit it big man. Please pull me up.
Jerry Malcolm:Well, Grant has been supporting us while we're little so of course you're what's called grandfathered in. But grant make sure you give Elena a nice it's not Was it too late? What time is it? No, it's not too late if you haven't done so make sure you get us some beautiful flowers.
Grant Cardone:Some sometimes I got a I got a flower for
Jerry Malcolm:no Greg give her flower he can last a little longer. You know because flowers
Jonathan Bing:don't get done the last couple of minutes, bro. Get a real flower.
Grant Cardone:Are you talking about your vaccine last year?
Jerry Malcolm:Man you grow to ask me to nasty. tell Mrs CARDONE that Jerry Malcolm said Happy Valentine's Day. It's okay for man to say to another man to tell his wife. This is a compliment. It's just a gesture.
Unknown Speaker:Likewise, likewise, Jonathan Bing as well.
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, so once again, y'all. I just got the clearance from the tower. And it looks like it is gonna be a bumpy landing, everybody. So I want everybody to put your seat in upright positions. Put your tray up. Put your iPads away. It looks like okay, 543 chick Joanne says Jonathan, Jonathan, I can't help it. I'm getting to break the news broke.
Jonathan Bing:Fires definitely fire. I can't leave. It's definitely a fire show, bro. These guys make a degree. They make it the best. They definitely make it the best.
Jerry Malcolm:I just don't want to leave man. So look, I got I want to ask the audience. Do I want to keep it open a little bit longer. Y'all wanted to have a little fun?
Unknown Speaker:Because I just got here please.
Jerry Malcolm:So if I kept if I kept it, if I kept it open, what are we going to talk about though?
Wait, I have a question. I have a question. Wait, no, I want to know what are we going to talk about? What's your question? Miss?
Unknown Speaker:I want to talk more. Would you go out with somebody that is not vaccinate on bounce?
Jerry Malcolm:Okay, well we I'm gonna pivot away from that because I want to I want to talk about if we kept the room open. I want to know what will we talk about somebody? Anybody? Please? Help me what what did she say? With Ellie? I'm sorry, Miss. What do you say?
Unknown Speaker:I said right now as a disabled person. A lot of able bodied people are fighting a stupid thing when they can just wear a mask. Is that okay?
Jerry Malcolm:I appreciate you for right now. No Miss right now right now. kinda like in a different in a different mode of the show right now I'm trying to be I'm trying to
Unknown Speaker:talk about everybody wants to talk about able bodied people when they never get a perception of a disabled person's viewpoint of all this.
Jerry Malcolm:No Miss we
Jonathan Bing:could we could you have stepped in and now he's no, no, no,
Jerry Malcolm:but I do get that perspective a lot, quite often almost
Unknown Speaker:everybody talks about, yes, I get to go to a restaurant, I'm getting mad at this. But at the beginning of the pandemic, everybody was talking about the seniors and the disabled. It's like we've been left out. Everybody wants to,
Jerry Malcolm:I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, Monica, do me a favor, follow the club. And this was Monica, this is what I'm going to do for you. Okay. When we're when we're in the show mode, and not the closing mode. I'll make sure that we touch on that tomorrow. So when you come in tomorrow, we'll touch on that. Okay, because right now I'm actually closing the show, because we go for three hours. In case you don't know we go from 2pm to 5pm, Pacific Standard Time, and 5pm to 8pm. Eastern time. So we did today, Monica. We stayed open an extra 47 minutes. So we're almost we're just shy of an hour longer than we normally go. So I'm gonna make sure you get your voice heard tomorrow. Okay, Monica. Okay, okay, Monica. Okay, I'll take that as okay. So once again, I want to give everybody a Happy Valentine's Day. And you never know we might go live later on. You never know. So we'll see. Everybody have a wonderful night.
Unknown Speaker:Thanks, Carrie. Happy Valentine's Day, guys.
Jerry Malcolm:Valentine's Day. Where's my gift? Where's my gift Jonathan all is damn happy about you know, I mean, Damn, man. We'd be working for like hours, bro. It's cool. They come out. They're present. Y'all get to leave and come back. I gotta sit right here and can't move. I can't do nothing like over three hours.
Unknown Speaker:Y'all. Want cherry.
Jerry Malcolm:I just want a little recognition. So I just want to love you. It's not about you says you love me. But can you give me an example of how much you love Me
Unknown Speaker:or My Funny Valentine. Wow,
Jerry Malcolm:how cute. That was cute. Now let me give you an example of how much I love you.
Mike is super hot, bro. You might get super hot John's. Hey, can anybody the audience thing? Can anybody on his kid always sing like him. Does anybody in his audience right? Ladies, does anyone have any wild thoughts right now? Another one. Any women in this audience?
Unknown Speaker:I don't know if you could tag. No, you want to see me Nikki Nikki, Maggie. I want to be a baby baby, the baby spinning in as much as he gained from mating. Then again, I just can be around you.
Jerry Malcolm:That's all y'all get from me tonight. Once again, I want to thank everybody for coming out. Our appreciate you. We got 131 chairs. As far as as far as I'm concerned. That's a gift that you guys gave me right there. Give me 131 shares. You guys come into the room and listen to me rant Rama mount for over three hours. That's a gift. from you guys, to me and Mr. Jonathan Bing. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Jonathan Bing. Thank you, Daphne. Thank you Tara Angel Medina. Dr. copelan credit Ninja Storm is in the building. My man Bobby, thank you to everybody else. I appreciate you guys. And we will see y'all Same time tomorrow. Goodbye. And everybody stay safe.
Jonathan Bing:Manyana from London,
Jerry Malcolm:Jimmie Johnson. I just can't man bro. I can't do it Hey, Jonathan, I can't do it. Jonathan does I just love these people so much Brahms? I'm sorry I'm not trying to play music. I'm really trying to try to build which are you trying to hit the gas hit with gas
Unknown Speaker:or gas to take the plane on and not lay in the room?
Jerry Malcolm:Yeah, yeah. But anyway, everybody have a great night and I'll see you all tomorrow. And everybody stay blessed and stay safe. Goodbye.
Unknown Speaker:Follow the elective fall.
